History EnsembleDarkhorse / ComicBooks

27th Dec '17 8:23:28 PM HamburgerTime
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** Among ''Comicbook/XStatix'''s frequently rotating cast, few stood out as much as the team's teleporter, U-Go Girl, a cute blue-skinned SouthernBelle with a TearJerker of a backstory and probably the most functional moral compass among the UnscrupulousHero team. Writer Peter Milligan was well aware of her popularity and chose to herald a major turning point in the story by [[KillTheCutie killing her off]] - years later, reflecting on the series, he considered doing that his biggest mistake.
19th Sep '17 2:28:34 PM Pichu-kun
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** Poison Ivy became ''much'' more popular when [[HoYay/{{Batman}} paired with Harley]], and a one-off miniseries, "Harley & Ivy", was made of them later.

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** Poison Ivy became ''much'' more popular when [[HoYay/{{Batman}} paired with Harley]], and a one-off miniseries, "Harley & Ivy", "ComicBook/HarleyAndIvy", was made of them later.
11th Sep '17 11:53:38 PM FuzzyBarbarian
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** Jon Kent, the third Superboy and Clark and Lois' son. Right from his creation he was adored for finally ''allowing'' Superman and Lois Lane to have a child, something fans have wanted for ''decades''. Also, given the YoungerAndHipper bent DC was on at the time, him allowing Superman to be a father was seen as a welcome change. Speaking of that, with Jon's introduction, writers were finally able to write newer types of stories for Superman, where he struggles with parenting, a problem he can't punch away. Jon himself is also beloved as a return to typical sidekick roots after years of deconstructing the concept, as he's a NiceGuy like his father with his mother's curiosity, with a well-written relationship with his parents and angst about living up to his father's legacy. He ended up co-starring with his father in ''ComicBook/SupermanRebirth'', where he sometimes gets more focus than the titular character, and very quickly got an ongoing alongside Damian Wayne, ''ComicBook/SuperSons''.
11th Sep '17 11:28:02 PM FuzzyBarbarian
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11th Sep '17 11:14:55 PM FuzzyBarbarian
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** With the exception of Jason Todd (though ever since he became the Red Hood, even he's gotten a fanbase now), each of the ComicBook/{{Robin}}s tend to have a very devoted fanbase just to them. Dick Grayson is so popular he's this for the ''whole universe'', to the point Geoff Johns refused to kill him off as instructed on the basis that he was TheHeart of the DCU and his fanbase was too damn big.
** [[ComicBook/RobinSeries Tim Drake]], due to being far more relatable than most Bat-characters, is also an example of this, even among Robins. Before him, the Robin mantle in general was widely derided for being a campy [[UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]] throwback, with Dick firmly in the role of Nightwing and Jason being killed off. However, he managed to make Robin ''work'' by being competent enough to not need Batman holding his hand or coming to his rescue, working hard to earn his rank, and being a nerdy teen and thus able to identify with.
** Damian Wayne, Franchise/{{Batman}}'s son, was initially intended to die after his first storyline, and was widely disliked by fans for his bad attitude and violent behavior. He was then made into the new Robin, and became the co-headliner of the immensely popular ''[[Comicbook/GrantMorrisonsBatman Batman and Robin]]'' series. He has since developed a sizable fanbase, even being briefly added to the ''ComicBook/TeenTitans'' as part of a stunt to raise the title's sagging sales. [[spoiler:This still didn't stop his creator from going through with his original plans and finally killing him. [[DeathIsCheap He got brought back, though]].]]
** Another, earlier example is Stephanie Brown, the fourth Robin and Batgirl respectively, and was an EnsembleDarkhorse in the Robin book before ''War Games'' killed her off. After her death, however, her popularity with the readers caused not only for her death to be {{retcon}}ned - but also for her to be made [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl2009}} the newest Batgirl]] with her own (Batman Beyond-esque) series with Barbara Gordon. Unfortunately it was cancelled, and Stephanie [[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome got sent]] to ComicbookLimbo, not re-surfacing until 2014 as the Spoiler. It's become clear that Stephanie is an {{inverted|Trope}} CreatorsPet - she has a vocal fanbase, but the [[ExecutiveMeddling higher-ups]] ''do not like'' the character. (Expect PopularityPolynomial to reverse this one day.)
** Similarly we have the third Batgirl, Cassandra Cain. Despite her origins as a ReplacementScrappy, she [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl2000}} had her own series]] and built up a sizable fanbase. It was only in late 2015 that she started to appear in comics again, albeit with an adjusted origin story.

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** With the exception of Jason Todd (though ever since he became the Red Hood, even he's gotten a fanbase now), each of the ComicBook/{{Robin}}s tend to have a very devoted fanbase just to them. Dick Grayson (Robin I/ Nightwing I/ Batman III) is so popular he's this for the ''whole universe'', to the point that Geoff Johns refused to kill him off as instructed on the basis that he was TheHeart of the DCU and his fanbase was too damn big.
big. His ''Nightwing'' series was a consistent strong seller and was only cancelled because he was becoming Batman. As Batman, he completely averted the ReplacementScrappy trope and ended up having ''more'' ongoing series than Bruce had once he came back.
** [[ComicBook/RobinSeries Tim Drake]], due to being far more relatable than most Bat-characters, is also an example of this, even among Robins. Before him, the Robin mantle in general was widely derided for being a campy [[UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]] throwback, with Dick firmly in the role of Nightwing and Jason being killed off. However, he managed to make Robin ''work'' by being competent enough to not need Batman holding his hand or coming to his rescue, working hard to earn his rank, and being a nerdy teen and thus able to identify with.
with. Unlike Dick, who is generally considered to have been RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap once he became Nightwing and Jason, who did the same (kind of) once he became the Red Hood, Tim is considered to have been great ''from the outset''. His popularity also led to him being the first Robin to get an ongoing series.
** Damian Wayne, Franchise/{{Batman}}'s son, was initially intended to die after his first storyline, and was widely disliked by fans for his bad attitude and violent behavior. He was then made into the new Robin, and became the co-headliner of the immensely popular ''[[Comicbook/GrantMorrisonsBatman Batman and Robin]]'' series.series, where he developed a brotherly friendship with Dick Grayson that people absolutely adore. Peter J. Tomasi would then further rescue Damian in the second ''Batman and Robin'' series, also immensely popular, where he worked with his dad. He has since developed a sizable fanbase, even being briefly added to the ''ComicBook/TeenTitans'' as part of a stunt to raise the title's sagging sales. [[spoiler:This This still didn't stop his creator from [[spoiler: going through with his original plans and finally killing him. [[DeathIsCheap He him]], but he got brought back, though]].]]
better in a timely fashion and would get ''another'' ongoing once ''Batman and Robin'' ended, ''and then'' appear in ''Superman'' and get ''another'' series with Jon Kent with ''Super Sons''.
** Another, earlier example is Stephanie Brown, the fourth Robin and Batgirl third Batgirl, respectively, and was an EnsembleDarkhorse in the Robin ''Robin'' book before ''War Games'' killed her off. After her death, however, her popularity with the readers caused not only for her death to be {{retcon}}ned - but also for her to be made [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl2009}} the newest Batgirl]] with her own (Batman Beyond-esque) series with Barbara Gordon. Unfortunately it was cancelled, and Stephanie [[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome got sent]] to ComicbookLimbo, ComicbookLimbo before being revealed to have been retconned out of existence entirely, not re-surfacing until 2014 as the Spoiler. It's become clear that Stephanie is an {{inverted|Trope}} CreatorsPet - -- she has a vocal fanbase, but the [[ExecutiveMeddling higher-ups]] ''do not like'' the character. (Expect PopularityPolynomial to reverse this one day.)
** Similarly we have the third second Batgirl, Cassandra Cain. Despite her origins as a ReplacementScrappy, ReplacementScrappy for Barbara Gordon, she [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl2000}} had her own series]] and built up a sizable fanbase. It fanbase, and there was only in late 2015 that an ''extreme'' backlash to misuse of the character. Like Steph, she started was retconned out of existence to appear make way for Barbara's return, but there was a noticeable air of resentment from many fans, and she was eventually brought back in comics again, 2015, albeit with an adjusted origin story. altered backstory and not as Batgirl (which is still a point of contention). Like Steph, it's become clear that Cass is a character the fanbase adores, but that the writers hate.



** Technically, ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'' star Terry [=McGinnis=] aka Batman II is this in Franchise/TheDCU. Like [[CanonImmigrant Harley Quinn and Renee Montoya]] he was taken from the Franchise/{{DCAU}} due to his massive popularity and moved into the main universe as a possible alternate Batman (presumably after Dick Grayson's and Damian Wayne's Batmen retire) - though whether or not he's still Bruce' son (and Damian's younger brother) in that future is uncertain (Waller's motivation would need adjusting). His popularity created several comic series, including the current ongoing series (and his show even got its own SpinOff, ''WesternAnimation/TheZetaProject'').

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** Technically, ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'' star Terry [=McGinnis=] aka Batman II is this in Franchise/TheDCU. this. Like [[CanonImmigrant Harley Quinn and Renee Montoya]] he was taken from the Franchise/{{DCAU}} due to his massive popularity and moved into the main universe as a possible alternate Batman (presumably after Dick Grayson's and Damian Wayne's Batmen retire) - -- though whether or not he's still Bruce' son (and Damian's younger brother) in that future is uncertain (Waller's motivation would need adjusting). uncertain. His popularity created several comic series, including the current ongoing series (and his show and he was even got its own SpinOff, ''WesternAnimation/TheZetaProject'').brought into the main DCU again in the New 52.



* Comicbook/{{Batwoman}}, the first high profile Lesbian superhero.

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* ** Comicbook/{{Batwoman}}, the first high profile Lesbian superhero. lesbian superhero, got this from the outset when she appeared in ''52''. She eventually got her own ongoing as well as a supporting role in ''Batman, Incorporated''.



* Death from ''Comicbook/TheSandman''. She was originally meant to be a minor recurring character who might appear a handful of times, but her instant popularity with the audience - helped no doubt by her {{perky|Goth}}, upbeat, kindhearted nature, a [[DontFearTheReaper sharp contrast]] to [[TheGrimReaper most personifications of Death]] - was so strong that Gaiman made sure she'd get at least one appearance in all ten volumes. These appearances vary in size but always feel substantial, and their sparsity helps prevent the story from ever focusing on her too much. Not to mention she's become canon in the actual DC universe. She has a long debate about mortality with Lex Luthor in ''ComicBook/ActionComics'' #894 (part of the "[[ComicBook/TheBlackRing Black Ring]]" story arc).

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* Death from ''Comicbook/TheSandman''. She was originally meant to be a minor recurring character who might appear a handful of times, but her instant popularity with the audience - -- helped no doubt by her {{perky|Goth}}, upbeat, kindhearted nature, a [[DontFearTheReaper sharp contrast]] to [[TheGrimReaper most personifications of Death]] - -- was so strong that Gaiman made sure she'd get at least one appearance in all ten volumes. These appearances vary in size but always feel substantial, and their sparsity helps prevent the story from ever focusing on her too much. Not to mention she's become canon in the actual DC universe. She has a long debate about mortality with Lex Luthor in ''ComicBook/ActionComics'' #894 (part of the "[[ComicBook/TheBlackRing Black Ring]]" story arc).
11th Sep '17 4:43:26 AM jormis29
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*** Kaine as the eventual and deeply reluctant successor to that name, who was RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap by Chris Yost, whose ''ComicBook/ScarletSpider'' series became a cult hit thanks to its fun cast (including {{Adorkable}} BreakOutCharacter Aracely) and Kaine trying to be a hero while acting in some of the most irresponsible ways possible and dealing with the Other and the various totemic aspects of his powers that Peter had to handle in the early 2000's. While it was cancelled, Yost took Kaine and Aracely and made them the centrepiece of his ''ComicBook/NewWarriors'' reboot. And while ''that'' was cancelled, Kaine then starred in ''ComicBook/SpiderVerse'', before a Scarlet Spider who is almost certainly him (he has the same costume, same powers and same [[GoodIsNotNice attitude]]) started starring in ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan''. Not bad for a character who was mostly dismissed as one of the worst parts of the trainwreck that was the Clone Saga.

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*** Kaine as the eventual and deeply reluctant successor to that name, who was RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap by Chris Yost, Creator/ChristopherYost, whose ''ComicBook/ScarletSpider'' ''ComicBook/ScarletSpider2012'' series became a cult hit thanks to its fun cast (including {{Adorkable}} BreakOutCharacter Aracely) and Kaine trying to be a hero while acting in some of the most irresponsible ways possible and dealing with the Other and the various totemic aspects of his powers that Peter had to handle in the early 2000's. While it was cancelled, Yost took Kaine and Aracely and made them the centrepiece of his ''ComicBook/NewWarriors'' reboot. And while ''that'' was cancelled, Kaine then starred in ''ComicBook/SpiderVerse'', before a Scarlet Spider who is almost certainly him (he has the same costume, same powers and same [[GoodIsNotNice attitude]]) started starring in ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan''. Not bad for a character who was mostly dismissed as one of the worst parts of the trainwreck that was the Clone Saga.



** Wolverine's [[OppositeSexClone female clone]]/daughter figure ''[[ComicBook/{{X23}} Laura Kinney, aka X-23]]'' has taken off in a similar manner to her adoptive father. Originally a CanonImmigrant from ''WesternAnimation/XMenEvolution'', her popularity was helped by the fact that most of her appearances were in [[CreatorsPet books written by her creators]] Christopher Yost and Craig Kyle. However, it was Marjorie Liu's take on the character in her own solo series that really made her popularity take off. Nowadays she's taken up her father's blue and yellow's as the ''[[ComicBook/AllNewAllDifferentMarvel All-New]] [[LegacyCharacter Wolverine]]''.

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** Wolverine's [[OppositeSexClone female clone]]/daughter figure ''[[ComicBook/{{X23}} Laura Kinney, aka X-23]]'' has taken off in a similar manner to her adoptive father. Originally a CanonImmigrant from ''WesternAnimation/XMenEvolution'', her popularity was helped by the fact that most of her appearances were in [[CreatorsPet books written by her creators]] Christopher Yost Creator/ChristopherYost and Craig Kyle.Creator/CraigKyle. However, it was Marjorie Liu's take on the character in her own solo series that really made her popularity take off. Nowadays she's taken up her father's blue and yellow's as the ''[[ComicBook/AllNewAllDifferentMarvel All-New]] [[LegacyCharacter Wolverine]]''.
8th Sep '17 8:39:16 AM Byzantine
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** Spider-Man himself started out as one as his first issue though it wouldn't sell, but was proven wrong and now has his own series.

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** Spider-Man himself started out as one as his first issue though it wouldn't sell, but was expected to not sell. Expectations were proven wrong and now has his own series.



** Shocker is also pretty popular to due his cool design, personailty, and cool weapons
** Hobgoblin Rodrick Kingsley is condired to be the true Hobgoblin and were quite please to see his return.

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** Shocker is also pretty popular to due his cool design, personailty, personality, and cool weapons
** Hobgoblin Rodrick Kingsley is condired considered to be the true Hobgoblin and readers were quite please pleased to see his return.
23rd Aug '17 2:28:32 PM TheNerevarine
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** Her Earth-2 counterpart ComicBook/PowerGirl also qualifies despite due to being one of the most [[BestKnownForTheFanservice well-known]] [[MsFanservice sex symbols]] in DC Comics (there is a good reason she is the trope image for the comic book sub-page), even though she is not considered a A-list superhero nor really focused or used much, but she still has her very devoted fanbase regardless.

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** Her Earth-2 counterpart ComicBook/PowerGirl also qualifies despite due to being one of the most [[BestKnownForTheFanservice well-known]] [[MsFanservice sex symbols]] in DC Comics (there is a good reason she is the trope image for the comic book sub-page), even though she is not considered a A-list superhero nor really focused or used much, but she still has her very devoted fanbase regardless.
22nd Aug '17 7:31:02 PM TheNerevarine
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** Her Earth-2 counterpart ComicBook/PowerGirl also qualifies despite due to being one of the most [[BestKnownForTheFanservice well-known]] [[MsFanservice sex symbols]] in DC Comics (there is a good reason she is the trope image for the comic book sub-page), even though she is not considered a A-list superhero nor really focused or used much, but she still has her very devoted fanbase regardless.


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* ''ComicBook/BattleChasers'': Red Monika. Even though the comic might be obscure these days, she is the main reason why anyone still remembers it due to the amount of pin-ups and fan art spawned by it, which is ironic, considering she was a secondary character to Garrison and Gully, who were the story's point-of-view characters.
6th Aug '17 3:07:35 AM HelloLamppost
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** SelfDemonstrating/{{Bizarro}}. Only appears every once in a while and rarely plays a major role in the story, but beloved for his goofy and lovable personality, plus his at-times legitimately tragic nature.

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** SelfDemonstrating/{{Bizarro}}. Only appears every once in a while and rarely plays a major role in the story, but beloved for his goofy and lovable personality, plus his at-times legitimately tragic nature. Notably, he ''died'' in his very first appearance, decades ago, but fan outcry resulted in him being reborn via AppliedPhlebotinum soon afterward.
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