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23rd May '18 2:21:31 PM NoSpoilerz
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* Hunnic myths describe that everything has a soul - from animals to swords and winds, everything is/was/will be a spirit. The world was made when the first spirits got bored of living in the dark forest, and light fires from themselves, only to see a nice new world - the dark forest was the sky, the campfires are the stars, and the world was Earth. The spirits also are part of families that can (and probably are) in fights with each other, and often take forms to fight and destroy other spirits - whom then fly back to their stars and can make a new bodies for themselves... The kicker? The spirits like to be HUMANS. That is right, HumansAreCthuhlu!

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* Hunnic myths describe that everything has a soul - from animals to swords and winds, everything is/was/will be a spirit. The world was made when the first spirits got bored of living in the dark forest, and light fires from themselves, only to see a nice new world - the dark forest was the sky, the campfires are the stars, and the world was Earth. The spirits also are part of families that can (and probably are) in fights with each other, and often take forms to fight and destroy other spirits - whom then fly back to their stars and can make a new bodies for themselves... The kicker? The spirits like to be HUMANS. That is right, HumansAreCthuhlu!HumansAreCthulhu!
23rd May '18 2:20:55 PM NoSpoilerz
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* Hunnic myths describe that everything has a soul - from animals to swords and winds, everything is/was/will be a spirit. The world was made when the first spirits got bored of living in the dark forest, and light fires from themselves, only to see a nice new world - the dark forest was the sky, the campfires are the stars, and the world was Earth. The spirits also are part of families that can (and probably are) in fights with each other, and often take forms to fight and destroy other spirits - whom then fly back to their stars and can make a new bodies for themselves... The kicker? The spirits like to be HUMANS. That is right, Humans are Chutulu!

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* Hunnic myths describe that everything has a soul - from animals to swords and winds, everything is/was/will be a spirit. The world was made when the first spirits got bored of living in the dark forest, and light fires from themselves, only to see a nice new world - the dark forest was the sky, the campfires are the stars, and the world was Earth. The spirits also are part of families that can (and probably are) in fights with each other, and often take forms to fight and destroy other spirits - whom then fly back to their stars and can make a new bodies for themselves... The kicker? The spirits like to be HUMANS. That is right, Humans are Chutulu!HumansAreCthuhlu!
1st May '18 9:04:51 PM nombretomado
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** Nu was the Primordial Egyptian deity of the watery abyss and was usually male, but could be the female Naunet or the male Nun ([[IThoughtItMeant not to be confused with]] NunsNRosaries [[HollywoodNuns Nuns]]). Nu's repressentations varied in more that just gender, ranging from the animal (frog, snake), the humanoid (blue skinned old man), [[SlidingScaleOfAnthropomorphism somewhere in between]] (frog-headed man, snake-headed woman), and the abstract (sacred lake, underground stream).

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** Nu was the Primordial Egyptian deity of the watery abyss and was usually male, but could be the female Naunet or the male Nun ([[IThoughtItMeant ([[JustForFun/IThoughtItMeant not to be confused with]] NunsNRosaries [[HollywoodNuns Nuns]]). Nu's repressentations varied in more that just gender, ranging from the animal (frog, snake), the humanoid (blue skinned old man), [[SlidingScaleOfAnthropomorphism somewhere in between]] (frog-headed man, snake-headed woman), and the abstract (sacred lake, underground stream).
30th Apr '18 6:02:43 AM memememememe
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Let us begin with a preface: Nobody, but nobody, does the supernatural Eldritch Entity quite like the Western world's favourite religious tradition: {{GOD}}. The concept of monotheism, combined with the Platonic Theory of Forms (a direct and heavy influence on modern "Pauline" Christianity and a less direct influence on both Rabbinic Judaism and Islam) and taken to both ideas' extremes is a fantastically alien experience. All the major Abrahamic religions and apologetics emphasize how the true form of God (and all the other "higher" celestial beings, but especially God) is beyond logic, causality, physics and comprehension of the human mind, because of His Transcendent nature, and so, trying to apply logic to these entities is just trying to exercise in complete futility. So, with that said let us truly start:\\

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Let us begin with a preface: Nobody, but nobody, does the supernatural Eldritch Entity quite like the Western world's favourite religious tradition: {{GOD}}.tradition. The concept of monotheism, combined with the Platonic Theory of Forms (a direct and heavy influence on modern "Pauline" Christianity and a less direct influence on both Rabbinic Judaism and Islam) and taken to both ideas' extremes is a fantastically alien experience. All the major Abrahamic religions and apologetics emphasize how the true form of God (and all the other "higher" celestial beings, but especially God) is beyond logic, causality, physics and comprehension of the human mind, because of His Transcendent nature, and so, trying to apply logic to these entities is just trying to exercise in complete futility. So, with that said let us truly start:\\



He is an [[TheOmnipotent All-in-One]] and [[TheOmniscient One-in-All]] of limitless being and self not merely a thing of one Space-Time continuum, but allied to the ultimate animating essence of existence's whole unbounded sweep the last, utter sweep which has no confines and which outreaches fancy and mathematics alike. It is perhaps that which the religion and philosophy of Christianity of earth have referred to indirectly by the common noun '''God''', and which has been a deity under other names; that which the Muslims worship as '''Allah''', and by which the Rabbis of Judaism whisper by a cryptic arcane Tetragrammaton that only appears in Latin transliteration as '''"YHWH"''' (sometimes denoted as '''"YHVH"'''). Most people think it would have been pronounced '''"Jehovah", "Yahowah", "Yahuh", or "Yahweh",''' but [[TheUnpronounceable no one can really be sure]]. It was theorized that [[HeWhoMustNotBeNamed properly pronouncing the name of God will only result in insanity]], hence [[Film/MontyPythonsLifeOfBrian why it is a blasphemy in Ancient Jewish folklore to attempt it]].[[note]]In actuality it was for more practical reasons: in [[Myth/HebrewMythology ancient Semitic religions]] writing the name of a deity was common for mystical purposes, and the worshipers of Yahweh simply didn't want to risk the possibility of someone else using their god against them. A similar incident occurred with the Egyptian Aten, in which the conventional way of writing a god's name was replaced by the pharaohnic cartouche.[[/note]]\\

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He is an [[TheOmnipotent All-in-One]] and [[TheOmniscient One-in-All]] of limitless being and self not merely a thing of one Space-Time continuum, but allied to the ultimate animating essence of existence's whole unbounded sweep the last, utter sweep which has no confines and which outreaches fancy and mathematics alike. It is perhaps that which the religion and philosophy of Christianity of earth have referred to indirectly by the common noun '''God''', and which has been a deity under other names; that which the Muslims worship as '''Allah''', and by which the Rabbis of Judaism whisper by a cryptic arcane Tetragrammaton that only appears in Latin transliteration as '''"YHWH"''' (sometimes denoted as '''"YHVH"'''). Most people think it would have been pronounced '''"Jehovah", "Yahowah", "Yahuh", or "Yahweh",''' but [[TheUnpronounceable no one can really be sure]]. It was theorized that [[HeWhoMustNotBeNamed properly pronouncing the name of God will only result in insanity]], hence [[Film/MontyPythonsLifeOfBrian why it is a blasphemy in Ancient Jewish folklore to attempt it]].[[note]]In actuality it was for more practical reasons: in [[Myth/HebrewMythology ancient Semitic religions]] writing the name of a deity was common for mystical purposes, and the worshipers of Yahweh simply didn't want to risk the possibility of someone else using their god against them. A similar incident occurred with the Egyptian Aten, in which the conventional way of writing a god's name was replaced by the pharaohnic cartouche.[[/note]]\\[[/note]] But for all intents and purposes, in this modern world, we know the Entity by the three-letter word: '''{{GOD}}'''.\\
30th Apr '18 5:57:36 AM memememememe
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Let us begin with a preface: Nobody, but nobody, does the supernatural Eldritch Entity quite like the Western world's favourite religious tradition. The concept of monotheism, combined with the Platonic Theory of Forms (a direct and heavy influence on modern "Pauline" Christianity and a less direct influence on both Rabbinic Judaism and Islam) and taken to both ideas' extremes is a fantastically alien experience. All the major Abrahamic religions and apologetics emphasize how the true form of God (and all the other "higher" celestial beings, but especially God) is beyond logic, causality, physics and comprehension of the human mind, because of His Transcendent nature, and so, trying to apply logic to these entities is just trying to exercise in complete futility. So, with that said let us truly start:\\

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Let us begin with a preface: Nobody, but nobody, does the supernatural Eldritch Entity quite like the Western world's favourite religious tradition.tradition: {{GOD}}. The concept of monotheism, combined with the Platonic Theory of Forms (a direct and heavy influence on modern "Pauline" Christianity and a less direct influence on both Rabbinic Judaism and Islam) and taken to both ideas' extremes is a fantastically alien experience. All the major Abrahamic religions and apologetics emphasize how the true form of God (and all the other "higher" celestial beings, but especially God) is beyond logic, causality, physics and comprehension of the human mind, because of His Transcendent nature, and so, trying to apply logic to these entities is just trying to exercise in complete futility. So, with that said let us truly start:\\
25th Apr '18 10:25:59 AM Letrune
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* Hunnic myths describe that everything has a soul - from animals to swords and winds, everything is/was/will be a spirit. The world was made when the first spirits got bored of living in the dark forest, and light fires from themselves, only to see a nice new world - the dark forest was the sky, the campfires are the stars, and the world was Earth. The spirits also are part of families that can (and probably are) in fights with each other, and often take forms to fight and destroy other spirits - whom then fly back to their stars and can make a new bodies for themselves... The kicker? The spirits like to be HUMANS. That is right, Humans are Chutulu!
1st Apr '18 9:33:44 AM orochi0619
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** The rest of the Protogenoi are only marginally less eldritch. The serpent Ophion/Ophioneus, ruled the universe before creation, before incubating the [[CosmicEgg Orphic Egg]][[note]]This means that the serpent is bigger than ''the universe''[[/note]], which was then sliced open by Chronos[[note]]Time itself[[/note]] and Ananke[[note]][[YouCantFightFate Inevitability]][[/note]]. The first deity from the Egg, Phanes/Eros/[[TheMagnificent Protogonos]][[note]]Appearance, Procreation, and the Firstborn, meaning the previous beings mentioned, were not born[[/note]]. From then on, it's unclear which Protogenoi came into being first, there are Thesis[[note]]Creation[[/note]], Hydros[[note]]Primordial Waters[[/note]], Nyx[[note]]Night[[/note]], Gaea[[note]]Nature[[/note]], and [[{{Hell}} Tartarus]].
** Special mention must go to the last three. For starters, Nyx and Gaea can reproduce by themselves, and yet they have their first sons, Erebus[[note]]Darkness[[/note]] and Ouranos[[note]]Sky[[/note]], become [[{{Squick}} their husbands]]. We don't know how Gaea and Tartarus looks like, but they have an affair once, see below. Nyx on the other hand appears as a [[HumanoidAbomination human woman]], and yet is so powerful that ''Zeus'' is '''terrified''' of her, while he has no problem messing with Gaea.

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** The rest of the Protogenoi are only marginally less eldritch. The serpent Ophion/Ophioneus, ruled the universe before creation, before incubating the [[CosmicEgg Orphic Egg]][[note]]This means that the serpent is bigger than ''the universe''[[/note]], which was then sliced open by Chronos[[note]]Time itself[[/note]] and Ananke[[note]][[YouCantFightFate Inevitability]][[/note]]. The first deity from the Egg, Phanes/Eros/[[TheMagnificent Protogonos]][[note]]Appearance, Procreation, and the Firstborn, meaning the previous beings mentioned, were not born[[/note]]. From then on, it's unclear which Protogenoi came into being first, there are Thesis[[note]]Creation[[/note]], Hydros[[note]]Primordial Waters[[/note]], Erebus[[note]]Darkness[[/note]], Nyx[[note]]Night[[/note]], Gaea[[note]]Nature[[/note]], and [[{{Hell}} Tartarus]].
** Special mention must go to the last three. For starters, Nyx and Gaea can reproduce by themselves, but Nyx has Erebus, her brother; and yet they have their first sons, Erebus[[note]]Darkness[[/note]] and Gaia has Ouranos[[note]]Sky[[/note]], her son; become [[{{Squick}} their husbands]]. We don't know how Gaea and Tartarus looks like, but they have an affair once, see below. Nyx on the other hand appears as a [[HumanoidAbomination human woman]], and yet is so powerful that ''Zeus'' is '''terrified''' of her, while he has no problem messing with Gaea.
30th Jan '18 2:13:05 PM bydlo
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** Thomist philosophy's angels aren't weird-looking because they have no appearance, being pure ideas. This concept was pretty much borrowed from Plato's Theory of Forms (Theory of Ideas). But the Platonic Ideas still definitely fit the "weird psychology" part. They have no need to reason or learn, because they know and are everything that they ''can'' know, simply as a function of their self-awareness. They are timeless and infinite and have no feelings; though they have enormous power to influence the world, it isn't by "action", as humans would understand it. The Real World as we see it is, in fact, [[PlatonicCave just a shadow of these Forms]], whom YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm. The perfect Idea of blueness "is projected" on what we "perceive" as a blue object. It's like Film/TheMatrix, only the Real World is not ''this'' [[RealLife real world]] but instead is {{mind screw}}y. Also, the most powerful of all angels, the supreme created entity, second only to God[=/=]The Form of the Good Himself? {{Satan}}, [[{{Manga/Berserk}} the Idea Of Evil]].

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** Thomist philosophy's angels aren't weird-looking because they have no appearance, being pure ideas. This concept was pretty much borrowed from Plato's Theory of Forms (Theory of Ideas). But the Platonic Ideas still definitely fit the "weird psychology" part. They have no need to reason or learn, because they know and are everything that they ''can'' know, simply as a function of their self-awareness. They are timeless and infinite and have no feelings; though they have enormous power to influence the world, it isn't by "action", as humans would understand it. The Real World as we see it is, in fact, [[PlatonicCave just a shadow of these Forms]], whom YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm. The perfect Idea of blueness "is projected" on what we "perceive" as a blue object. It's like Film/TheMatrix, only the Real World is not ''this'' [[RealLife real world]] but instead is {{mind screw}}y. Also, the most powerful of all angels, the supreme created entity, second only to God[=/=]The Form of the Good Himself? {{Satan}}, [[{{Manga/Berserk}} the Idea Of Evil]].



** Ironically, notably and deliciously subverted with demons, all of which are said to be inferior to humans and powerless against them, although their parasitic powers are exceptional. Indeed, [[HumansAreCthulhu we are probably seen as eldritch abominations]] by demons, considering that, allegedly, the first example in this section has given humans a blessing and a chance at salvation while cursing demons to an eternity of suffering.
***Theres an old Jewish agadah about death of Moses, when Samael (angel of death according to Jewish lore) went by order of God to take his soul. He didn't succeed because he was [[HumansAreCthulhu frightened and fled after he saw face of moses]].



** This is why every time an angel appears to a mortal, the first thing it says is always "be not afraid".


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***It must be also noted, that it is believed according to tradition, that Postresurrection new bodies of mankind will reflect spiritual state of individuals. Bible talks a lot about future resurrected saints radiating glory and beauty of God. But it also implies that sinners with new bodies will be like walking abysmal horrors.
14th Dec '17 10:52:21 PM AtmosBlitzer
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He is an [[TheOmnipotent All-in-One]] and [[TheOmniscient One-in-All]] of limitless being and self not merely a thing of one Space-Time continuum, but allied to the ultimate animating essence of existence's whole unbounded sweep the last, utter sweep which has no confines and which outreaches fancy and mathematics alike. It is perhaps that which the religion and philosophy of Christianity of earth have referred to indirectly by the common noun '''God''', and which has been a deity under other names; that which the Muslims worship as '''Allah''', and by which the Rabbis of Judaism whisper by a cryptic arcane Tetragrammaton that only appears in Latin transliteration as '''"YHWH"''' (sometimes denoted as '''"YHVH"'''). Most people think it would have been pronounced '''"Jehovah", "Yahowah", "Yahuh", or "Yahweh",''' but [[TheUnpronounceable no one can really be sure]]. It was theorized that [[HeWhoMustNotBeNamed properly pronouncing the name of God will only result in insanity]], hence [[Film/MontyPythonsLifeOfBrian why it is a blasphemy in Ancient Jewish folklore to attempt it]].[[note]]In actuality it was for more practical reasons: in [[Myth/HebrewMythology ancient Semitic religions]] writing the name of a deity was common for mystical purposes, and the worshipers of Yahweh simply didn't want to risk the possibility of someone else using their god against them. A similar incident occurred with the Egyptian Aten, in which the conventional way of writing a god's name was replaced by the pharaohnic cartouche.[[/note]]

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He is an [[TheOmnipotent All-in-One]] and [[TheOmniscient One-in-All]] of limitless being and self not merely a thing of one Space-Time continuum, but allied to the ultimate animating essence of existence's whole unbounded sweep the last, utter sweep which has no confines and which outreaches fancy and mathematics alike. It is perhaps that which the religion and philosophy of Christianity of earth have referred to indirectly by the common noun '''God''', and which has been a deity under other names; that which the Muslims worship as '''Allah''', and by which the Rabbis of Judaism whisper by a cryptic arcane Tetragrammaton that only appears in Latin transliteration as '''"YHWH"''' (sometimes denoted as '''"YHVH"'''). Most people think it would have been pronounced '''"Jehovah", "Yahowah", "Yahuh", or "Yahweh",''' but [[TheUnpronounceable no one can really be sure]]. It was theorized that [[HeWhoMustNotBeNamed properly pronouncing the name of God will only result in insanity]], hence [[Film/MontyPythonsLifeOfBrian why it is a blasphemy in Ancient Jewish folklore to attempt it]].[[note]]In actuality it was for more practical reasons: in [[Myth/HebrewMythology ancient Semitic religions]] writing the name of a deity was common for mystical purposes, and the worshipers of Yahweh simply didn't want to risk the possibility of someone else using their god against them. A similar incident occurred with the Egyptian Aten, in which the conventional way of writing a god's name was replaced by the pharaohnic cartouche.[[/note]]
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Also, [[YouCantFightFate He completely controls our destiny whether we like it or not]]. [[AWizardDidIt He literally did everything]]. [[InsignificantLittleBluePlanet Unlike other Outer Gods]], however, [[DidWeJustHaveTeaWithCthulhu God at least provides love as long as you worship and revere Him]], and He has the decency to either (depending on your point of view) [[UsefulNotes/{{Islam}} work through slightly less eldritch intermediaries]] like the ArchangelGabriel or, if you're Christian, take AFormYouAreComfortableWith (one we all love named [[JesusWasWayCool Jesus]]), but then again, He can and will perform many [[GoodIsNotSoft violent]] acts like [[BoltOfDivineRetribution smite and punish thee]] and by His law [[HumansAreFlawed we sinful humans]] would be bound for Hell for the tiniest amounts of [[Literature/NineteenEightyFour Thought Crime]] (but God understands that HumansAreFlawed, hence why He sent Jesus to [[TakingTheHeat take the heat]]). He might be forgiving, but if anybody else, [[{{Satan}} even the most powerful of the Angels]], are stupid enough to think of themselves above the Most High, then he's ''[[Hell definitely screwed]]''.\\

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Also, [[YouCantFightFate He completely controls our destiny whether we like it or not]]. [[AWizardDidIt He literally did everything]]. [[InsignificantLittleBluePlanet Unlike other Outer Gods]], however, [[DidWeJustHaveTeaWithCthulhu God at least provides love as long as you worship and revere Him]], and He has the decency to either (depending on your point of view) [[UsefulNotes/{{Islam}} work through slightly less eldritch intermediaries]] like the ArchangelGabriel or, if you're Christian, take AFormYouAreComfortableWith (one we all love named [[JesusWasWayCool Jesus]]), but then again, He can and will perform many [[GoodIsNotSoft violent]] acts like [[BoltOfDivineRetribution smite and punish thee]] and by His law [[HumansAreFlawed we sinful humans]] would be bound for Hell for the tiniest amounts of [[Literature/NineteenEightyFour Thought Crime]] (but God understands that HumansAreFlawed, hence why He sent Jesus to [[TakingTheHeat take the heat]]). He might be forgiving, but if anybody else, [[{{Satan}} even the most powerful of the Angels]], are stupid enough to think of themselves above the Most High, then he's ''[[Hell ''[[{{Hell}} definitely screwed]]''.\\
24th Nov '17 11:10:40 AM nombretomado
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* The FlyingSpaghettiMonster, according to its worshippers, is the omnipotent, invisible, undetectable creator of the universe... who just so happens to look like spaghetti and meatballs. His spaghetti-and-meatballs form also resembles Azathoth. [[MemeticMutation His noodly appendages guide us all.]]

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* The FlyingSpaghettiMonster, UsefulNotes/FlyingSpaghettiMonster, according to its worshippers, is the omnipotent, invisible, undetectable creator of the universe... who just so happens to look like spaghetti and meatballs. His spaghetti-and-meatballs form also resembles Azathoth. [[MemeticMutation His noodly appendages guide us all.]]
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