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7th Feb '16 10:28:21 AM nombretomado
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His omnipotence, combined with [[GoodIsNotNice pretty extreme measures]] when dealing with heresy, still makes Him a force to be reckoned with. He's [[GodIsGood overall trying to be nice]], but He is harsh. Even our best theologians and philosophers don't help in describing His [[MindScrew Mind Screw]]-like nature, with interpretations so contradicting it ends up inspiring [[TheCrusades War, Madness and Terror]] on both sides.\\
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His omnipotence, combined with [[GoodIsNotNice pretty extreme measures]] when dealing with heresy, still makes Him a force to be reckoned with. He's [[GodIsGood overall trying to be nice]], but He is harsh. Even our best theologians and philosophers don't help in describing His [[MindScrew Mind Screw]]-like nature, with interpretations so contradicting it ends up inspiring [[TheCrusades [[UsefulNotes/TheCrusades War, Madness and Terror]] on both sides.\\
8th Jan '16 4:32:33 AM 082122712641
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In fact, just ''looking'' at Him causes you to explode. The Kabbalist philosophy is that a Seraph burns by consequence of being smart enough to understand the most high's glory better than anything else. In Exodus 33, Moses had to cower behind a rock to look at the back of God, and in the Quran (7:143), Moses insists that God allow him to see his true form. God instead says that he will reveal himself to a nearby mountain, and if Moses can take that, he'll be able to see God's true form. The mountain is obliterated and Moses is knocked unconscious just by seeing it.\\ \\
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In fact, just ''looking'' at Him causes you to explode. The Kabbalist philosophy is that a Seraph burns by consequence of being smart enough to understand the most high's glory better than anything else. In Exodus 33, Moses had to cower behind a rock to look at the back of God, and in the Quran (7:143), Moses insists that God allow him to see his true form. God instead says that he will reveal himself to a nearby mountain, and if Moses can take that, he'll be able to see God's true form. The mountain is obliterated and Moses is knocked unconscious just by seeing it.\\ \\it.
30th Dec '15 5:41:54 AM 082122712641
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** The rest of the Protogenoi are only marginally less eldritch. The serpent Ophion/Ophioneus, ruled the universe before creation, before incubating the [[CosmicEgg Orphic Egg]][[note]]This means that the serpent is bigger than ''the universe''[[/note]], which was then silced open by Chronos[[note]]Time itself[[/note]] and Ananke[[note]][[YouCantFightFate Inevitability]][[/note]]. The first deity from the Egg, Phanes/Eros/[[TheMagnificent Protogonos]][[note]]Appearance, Procreation, and the Firstborn, meaning the previous beings mentioned, were not born[[/note]]. From then on, it's unclear which Protogenoi came into being first, there are Thesis[[note]]Creation[[/note]], Hydros[[note]]Primordial Waters[[/note]], Nyx[[note]]Night[[/note]], Gaea[[note]]Nature[[/note]], and [[{{Hell}} Tartarus]].
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** The rest of the Protogenoi are only marginally less eldritch. The serpent Ophion/Ophioneus, ruled the universe before creation, before incubating the [[CosmicEgg Orphic Egg]][[note]]This means that the serpent is bigger than ''the universe''[[/note]], which was then silced sliced open by Chronos[[note]]Time itself[[/note]] and Ananke[[note]][[YouCantFightFate Inevitability]][[/note]]. The first deity from the Egg, Phanes/Eros/[[TheMagnificent Protogonos]][[note]]Appearance, Procreation, and the Firstborn, meaning the previous beings mentioned, were not born[[/note]]. From then on, it's unclear which Protogenoi came into being first, there are Thesis[[note]]Creation[[/note]], Hydros[[note]]Primordial Waters[[/note]], Nyx[[note]]Night[[/note]], Gaea[[note]]Nature[[/note]], and [[{{Hell}} Tartarus]].
30th Dec '15 5:41:10 AM 082122712641
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** The rest of the Protogenoi are only marginally less eldritch. The serpent Ophion/Ophioneus, ruled the universe before creation, before incubating the [[CosmicEgg Orphic Egg]][[note]]This means that the serpent is bigger than ''the universe''[[/note]], which was then silced open by Chronos[[note]]Time itself[[/note]] and Ananke[[note]][[YouCantFightFate Inevitability]][[/note]]. The first being coming from the Egg, Phanes/Eros/[[TheMagnificent Protogonos]][[note]]Appearance, Procreation, and the Firstborn, meaning the previous beings mentioned, were not born[[/note]]. From then on, it's unclear which Protogenoi came into being first, there are Thesis[[note]]Creation[[/note]], Hydros[[note]]Primordial Waters[[/note]], Nyx[[note]]Night[[/note]], Gaea[[note]]Nature[[/note]], and [[{{Hell}} Tartarus]].
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** The rest of the Protogenoi are only marginally less eldritch. The serpent Ophion/Ophioneus, ruled the universe before creation, before incubating the [[CosmicEgg Orphic Egg]][[note]]This means that the serpent is bigger than ''the universe''[[/note]], which was then silced open by Chronos[[note]]Time itself[[/note]] and Ananke[[note]][[YouCantFightFate Inevitability]][[/note]]. The first being coming deity from the Egg, Phanes/Eros/[[TheMagnificent Protogonos]][[note]]Appearance, Procreation, and the Firstborn, meaning the previous beings mentioned, were not born[[/note]]. From then on, it's unclear which Protogenoi came into being first, there are Thesis[[note]]Creation[[/note]], Hydros[[note]]Primordial Waters[[/note]], Nyx[[note]]Night[[/note]], Gaea[[note]]Nature[[/note]], and [[{{Hell}} Tartarus]].
30th Dec '15 5:39:02 AM 082122712641
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In fact, just ''looking'' at Him causes you to explode. The Kabbalist philosophy is that a Seraph burns by consequence of being smart enough to understand the most high's glory better than anything else. In Exodus 33, Moses had to cower behind a rock to look at the back of God, and in the Quran (7:143), Moses insists that God allow him to see his true form. God instead says that he will reveal himself to a nearby mountain, and if Moses can take that, he'll be able to see God's true form. The mountain is obliterated and Moses is knocked unconscious just by seeing it. * Speaking of the Kabbalah, the demons range from angry, ravenous crows that spread like fire, to enormous, black giants covered with serpents, to disembodied, veiled heads with glimpses of horrifying eyes. The angels of sacred prostitution are much more humanoid looking though allowing them to have the MostCommonSuperPower.
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In fact, just ''looking'' at Him causes you to explode. The Kabbalist philosophy is that a Seraph burns by consequence of being smart enough to understand the most high's glory better than anything else. In Exodus 33, Moses had to cower behind a rock to look at the back of God, and in the Quran (7:143), Moses insists that God allow him to see his true form. God instead says that he will reveal himself to a nearby mountain, and if Moses can take that, he'll be able to see God's true form. The mountain is obliterated and Moses is knocked unconscious just by seeing it. * Speaking of the Kabbalah, the demons range from angry, ravenous crows that spread like fire, to enormous, black giants covered with serpents, to disembodied, veiled heads with glimpses of horrifying eyes. The angels of sacred prostitution are much more humanoid looking though allowing them to have the MostCommonSuperPower.it.\\ \\

** The biblical depictions of angels are more like traditional Eldritch Abominations than the [[FluffyCloudHeaven fluffy cloud angels]] we see nowadays on Christmas decorations. The cherubim (Yes, those cuties we all know today) have four faces - a lion on the right, an ox on the left, a human forward, and an eagle backward. They have four wings, with HANDS under the wings, their legs described as simply "straight", and they have hooves. Also, [[ExtraEyes the eyes]]. [[EyesDoNotBelongThere Everywhere.]] [[UpToEleven Even in the spaces between the eyes.]] Furthermore, the exact meaning of "Cherubim" has been lost to time but upon observing a group of abnormal "Chayyot", "living creatures", Ezekiel is surprised by the revelation of them being Cherubim. This means, in the eyes of the Hebrews, their most outstanding characteristic amongst the other orders of angels was that ''they are alive.'' Not so cute anymore, is it?
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** The biblical depictions of angels are more like traditional Eldritch Abominations than the [[FluffyCloudHeaven fluffy cloud angels]] we see nowadays on Christmas decorations. The cherubim (Yes, those cuties we all know today) have four faces - a lion on the right, an ox on the left, a human forward, and an eagle backward. They have four wings, with HANDS under the wings, their legs described as simply "straight", and they have hooves. Also, [[ExtraEyes the eyes]]. [[EyesDoNotBelongThere Everywhere.]] Everywhere]]. [[UpToEleven Even in the spaces between the eyes.]] eyes]]. Furthermore, the exact meaning of "Cherubim" has been lost to time but upon observing a group of abnormal "Chayyot", "living creatures", Ezekiel is surprised by the revelation of them being Cherubim. This means, in the eyes of the Hebrews, their most outstanding characteristic amongst the other orders of angels was that ''they are alive.'' alive''. Not so cute anymore, is it?

** In the original Jewish lore, they form a trio with the [[GiantFlyer Ziz]], a gryphon-like bird whose wingspan would block out the sun. The Ziz once threw away a rotten egg, and thirty cities were flooded by the liquid of it, and 300 cedars were broken by the shock of the falling egg. If the Ziz would stand in the middle of the ocean, the water would only reach his knees. Eldritch enough. ** Leviathan is also said to be 300 miles long, and that is on top of breathing fire, having impenetrable scales, and glowing eyes. Behemoth is described so vaguely that all that is clear is that it is a (possibly mammalian) herbivore, incredibly strong, and invulnerable to anything that is not omnipotent (i.e. God). Not being able to describe it properly is a sure sign of an eldritch abomination. ** The "agon" model of Genesis interprets Leviathan to be the closest equivalent of TheAntiGod infesting the primordial seas before God created universal order. And if God above was already weird for being completely outside of time, without beginning or end, then think of an entity that ''preceded the beginning God Himself''. *** Some scholars believe Leviathan to be based on Tiamat from [[Myth/MesopotamianMythology Babylonian Mythology]], and the Hebrew creation myth supposedly goes back to a primordial battle between God and the ocean-dwelling chaos monster. Thus, the mention of Leviathan in Psalm 104 would be a {{Retcon}} emphasizing God's complete omnipotence (possibly not, Tiamat had more mammalian traits, Genesis's opening does not describe violence and Leviathon looks a lot more similar to figures actually originating out of Semite culture like Lotan but ''tehom'', the Hebrew word for incomplete creation, resembles Tiamat) *** There's also a theory that the Leviathan is a manifestation of Satan...
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** In the original Jewish lore, they form a trio with the [[GiantFlyer Ziz]], a gryphon-like bird whose wingspan would block out the sun. The Ziz once threw away a rotten egg, and thirty cities were flooded by the liquid of it, and 300 cedars were broken by the shock of the falling egg. If the Ziz would stand in the middle of the ocean, the water would only reach his knees. Eldritch enough. ** Leviathan is also said to be 300 miles long, and that is on top of breathing breathes fire, having has impenetrable scales, and glowing eyes. Behemoth is described so vaguely that all that is clear is that it is a (possibly mammalian) herbivore, and also incredibly strong, and strong. Both are apparently invulnerable to anything that is not omnipotent (i.e. God). Not being able to describe it properly is a sure sign of an eldritch abomination.\n** The "agon" model of Genesis interprets Leviathan to be the closest equivalent of TheAntiGod infesting the primordial seas before God created universal order. And if God above was already weird for being completely outside of time, without beginning or end, then think of an entity that ''preceded the beginning God Himself''.\n*** Some scholars believe Leviathan to be based on Tiamat from [[Myth/MesopotamianMythology Babylonian Mythology]], and the Hebrew creation myth supposedly goes back to a primordial battle between God and the ocean-dwelling chaos monster. Thus, the mention of Leviathan in Psalm 104 would be a {{Retcon}} emphasizing God's complete omnipotence (possibly not, Tiamat had more mammalian traits, Genesis's opening does not describe violence and Leviathon looks a lot more similar to figures actually originating out of Semite culture like Lotan but ''tehom'', the Hebrew word for incomplete creation, resembles Tiamat)\n*** There's also a theory that the Leviathan is a manifestation of Satan...

** In * Though they're generally agreed to not be physical beings so much as metaphorically-described human empires, the original Jewish lore, they form four beasts seen by the eponymous prophet in chapter 7 of ''Daniel'' probably deserve mention here. They dominate the world one after another; the first resembling a trio winged lion with the [[GiantFlyer Ziz]], heart of a gryphon-like bird whose wingspan would block out human, the sun. The Ziz once threw away second a rotten egg, and thirty cities were flooded by the liquid of it, and 300 cedars were broken by the shock of the falling egg. If the Ziz would stand in the middle of the ocean, the water would only reach his knees. Eldritch enough. ** Leviathan is also said to be 300 miles long, and [[BearsAreBadNews colossal bear]] that is feeds on top of breathing fire, having impenetrable scales, human flesh, the third a leopard with four heads and glowing eyes. Behemoth four wings (and in some interpretations, draws on a variety of big cats, as well), but the most eldritch of them all is the last one, which is notably ''not'' described as looking like any Earthly animal. It is described so vaguely as having enormous claws, teeth made of iron, and ten horns which are the ten kings that all rule the empire that is clear is that it is a (possibly mammalian) herbivore, incredibly strong, the whole beast represents. In addition, the creature's smallest and invulnerable to anything that most innocuous horn is not omnipotent (i.e. God). Not being able to describe it properly is a sure sign of an eldritch abomination. ** The "agon" model of Genesis interprets Leviathan strongly implied to be the closest equivalent of TheAntiGod infesting most powerful and evil world leader the primordial seas before God created universal order. And if God above was already weird for being completely outside of time, without beginning or end, then think of an entity that ''preceded Earth will ever know. This thing is prophesied to singlehandedly rip the beginning God Himself''. *** Some scholars believe Leviathan planet to be based on Tiamat from [[Myth/MesopotamianMythology Babylonian Mythology]], shreds, and it ultimately takes ''God Himself'' to finally kill it at the Hebrew creation myth supposedly goes back to a primordial battle between God and end of the ocean-dwelling chaos monster. Thus, the mention of Leviathan in Psalm 104 would be a {{Retcon}} emphasizing God's complete omnipotence (possibly not, Tiamat had more mammalian traits, Genesis's opening does not describe violence and Leviathon looks a lot more similar to figures actually originating out of Semite culture like Lotan but ''tehom'', the Hebrew word for incomplete creation, resembles Tiamat) *** There's also a theory that the Leviathan is a manifestation of Satan...world.

** {{Satan}} becomes one in Revelation as well; he is described as a "great red dragon" with seven heads, ten horns, and ten crowns, so powerful that a single swipe of his tail sends ''one-third of the stars'' falling out of the sky. This is from the description of the War in Heaven between Satan and Michael, each with their own army of angels. A common interpretation is that the fallen stars are the fallen angels that sided with Satan. So a third of all angels fell.
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** {{Satan}} becomes one in Revelation as well; he is described as a "great red dragon" with seven heads, ten horns, and ten crowns, so powerful that a single swipe of his tail sends ''one-third of the stars'' falling out of the sky. This is from the description of the War in Heaven between Satan and Michael, ArchangelMichael (who was not described), each with their own army of angels. A common interpretation is that the fallen stars are the fallen angels that sided with Satan. So a third of all angels fell.

* Though they're generally agreed to not be physical beings so much as metaphorically-described human empires, the four beasts seen by the eponymous prophet in chapter 7 of ''Daniel'' probably deserve mention here. They dominate the world one after another; the first resembling a winged lion with the heart of a human, the second a [[BearsAreBadNews colossal bear]] that feeds on human flesh, the third a leopard with four heads and four wings (and in some interpretations, draws on a variety of big cats, as well), but the most eldritch of them all is the last one, which is notably ''not'' described as looking like any Earthly animal. It is described as having enormous claws, teeth made of iron, and ten horns which are the ten kings that rule the empire that the whole beast represents. In addition, the creature's smallest and most innocuous horn is strongly implied to be the most powerful and evil world leader the Earth will ever know. This thing is prophesied to singlehandedly rip the planet to shreds, and it ultimately takes ''God Himself'' to finally kill it at the end of the world. * Jewish folklore names the little known Rahab as the "demonic angel of the sea" representing the [[PrimordialChaos primordial abyss]], the water-dragon of darkness and chaos. Often associated with the above Leviathan, Rahab was a primordial entity that God slew at the beginning of Creation. He's mentioned so sparsely in Biblical accounts that you have to know where to look to find any mention or discussion about him, but this thing was around '''BEFORE''' God got to creating the world. In other words, out of all the things in Creation, '''Rahab was the one thing God did not create'''.
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* Though they're generally agreed to not be physical beings so much as metaphorically-described human empires, In the four beasts seen by Kabbalah, the eponymous prophet in chapter 7 of ''Daniel'' probably deserve mention here. They dominate the world one after another; the first resembling a winged lion demons range from angry, ravenous crows that spread like fire, to enormous, black giants covered with the heart of a human, the second a [[BearsAreBadNews colossal bear]] that feeds on human flesh, the third a leopard with four serpents, to disembodied, veiled heads and four wings (and in some interpretations, draws on a variety with glimpses of big cats, as well), but the most eldritch horrifying eyes. The angels of them all is the last one, which is notably ''not'' described as sacred prostitution are much more humanoid looking like any Earthly animal. It is described as having enormous claws, teeth made of iron, and ten horns which are though allowing them to have the ten kings that rule the empire that the whole beast represents. In addition, the creature's smallest and most innocuous horn is strongly implied to be the most powerful and evil world leader the Earth will ever know. This thing is prophesied to singlehandedly rip the planet to shreds, and it ultimately takes ''God Himself'' to finally kill it at the end of the world. MostCommonSuperPower. * The original Jewish folklore names has much, much more: ** the above-mentioned Behemoth and Leviathan form a trio with the [[GiantFlyer Ziz]], a gryphon-like bird whose wingspan would block out the sun. The Ziz once threw away a rotten egg, and thirty cities were flooded by the liquid of it, and 300 cedars were broken by the shock of the falling egg. If the Ziz would stand in the middle of the ocean, the water would only reach his knees. Eldritch enough. ** In some versions of the myth. Leviathan is the closest equivalent of TheAntiGod infesting the primordial seas before God created universal order. And if God above was already weird for being completely outside of time, without beginning or end, then think of an entity that ''preceded the beginning, God Himself''. ** Then there's the little known Rahab as the "demonic angel of the sea" representing the [[PrimordialChaos primordial abyss]], the water-dragon of darkness and chaos. Often associated with the above Leviathan, Rahab was a primordial entity that God slew at the beginning of Creation. He's mentioned so sparsely in Biblical accounts that you have to know where to look to find any mention or discussion about him, but this thing was around '''BEFORE''' God got to creating the world. In other words, out of all the things in Creation, '''Rahab was the one thing God did not create'''.

* Typhon, the youngest and most powerful of Gaia's offspring. Lower half consisting of serpent coils, a human upper half that reaches the stars, arms that spanned the East and the West covered with live dragon heads, a body covered in mighty wings, a main head like that of a horse and eyes that shot forth flames. When it first appeared, ''all of the Greek gods'' except Zeus & Athena ''ran like hell''. And even Zeus, the most powerful god of them all, wielding his mighty thunderbolts in battle, lost the first round against Typhon (by Typhon STEALING ZEUS'S SINEWS and HIDING THEM) and barely managed to [[SealedEvilInACan seal it away]] under Mount Aetna in round two. Before it was sealed away, Typhon also fathered most of the monsters present in Myth/GreekMythology, such as Cerberus, the Sphinx, Orthus, the Nemean Lion, the Hydra, and the Chimera (their mother Echidna might also fit the bill). And how did Gaia give birth to this beast? By sleeping with Tartarus, a.k.a. the Greek Underworld. The Earth ''slept with ancient Greek Hell'' to give birth to a monster that frightened the gods themselves.
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* Typhon, the youngest and most powerful of Gaia's offspring. Lower half consisting of serpent coils, a human upper half that reaches the stars, arms that spanned the East and the West covered with live dragon heads, a body covered in mighty wings, a main head like that of a horse and eyes that shot forth flames. When it first appeared, ''all of the Greek gods'' except Zeus & Athena ''ran like hell''. And even Zeus, the most powerful god of them all, wielding his mighty thunderbolts in battle, lost the first round against Typhon (by Typhon STEALING ZEUS'S SINEWS and HIDING THEM) and barely managed to [[SealedEvilInACan seal it away]] under Mount Aetna in round two. Before it was sealed away, Typhon also fathered most of the monsters present in Myth/GreekMythology, such as Cerberus, the Sphinx, Orthus, the Nemean Lion, the Hydra, and the Chimera (their mother Echidna might also fit the bill). And how did Gaia Gaea give birth to this beast? By sleeping with Tartarus, a.k.a. the Greek Underworld. The Earth MotherNature ''slept with ancient Greek Hell'' {{Hell}}'' to give birth to a monster that frightened the gods themselves.

* The Earth produced another one when she slept with her own grandson Poseidon, unless she is one of Ekhidnai's and Typhon's children, that is. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charybdis Charybdis]] was apparently once a beautiful naiad, but was transformed by Zeus into a horrible and utterly inhuman monster. According to TheOtherWiki, in some versions, she is a ''huge bladder of a creature whose face was all mouth and whose arms and legs were flippers'' that belches out whirlpools, while in others, she ''is'' a giant whirlpool. When forced to choose between Scylla and Charybdis, Odysseus quickly chose Scylla for good reason.
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* The Earth Gaea produced another one when she slept with her own grandson Poseidon, unless she is one of Ekhidnai's and Typhon's children, that is. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charybdis Charybdis]] was apparently once a beautiful naiad, but was transformed by Zeus into a horrible and utterly inhuman monster. According to TheOtherWiki, in some versions, she is a ''huge bladder of a creature whose face was all mouth and whose arms and legs were flippers'' that belches out whirlpools, while in others, she ''is'' a giant whirlpool. When forced to choose between Scylla and Charybdis, Odysseus quickly chose Scylla for good reason.
30th Dec '15 5:19:23 AM 082122712641
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** Contrast the Seraphim, basically cherubim with extra wings that are ''[[IncendiaryExponent on fire]]'', whose name means [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin "Fiery Ones"]], and the Ophanim that take this to the extreme, being wheels [[AlienGeometries intersecting themselves while turning, also flying with six wings, somehow attached while they're turning]], whose name means [[CaptainObvious "Wheels"]]. Remember, neither of these were understood to be alive by the Hebrews. Add to all this that God's guard for the Garden of Eden was a cherub armed with a flaming sword that [[AlienGeometries turned in all directions.]] That they are so nice takes the abomination out, even if they are eldritch.
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** Contrast the Seraphim, basically cherubim with extra wings that are ''[[IncendiaryExponent on fire]]'', whose name means [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin "Fiery Ones"]], and the Ophanim that take this to the extreme, being wheels [[AlienGeometries intersecting themselves while turning, also flying with six wings, somehow attached while they're turning]], whose name means [[CaptainObvious "Wheels"]]. Remember, neither of these were understood to be alive by the Hebrews. Add to all this that God's guard for the Garden of Eden was a cherub armed with a flaming sword that [[AlienGeometries turned in all directions.]] That they are so nice takes the abomination out, even if they are eldritch.directions]].

*** The Abomination of Desolation also counts as an EldritchAbomination. Whether it is a LivingStatue of sorts or a thing possessed by Satan the original Eldritch Abomination, the result is the same.
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*** ** The Abomination of Desolation also counts as an EldritchAbomination. Whether it is a LivingStatue of sorts or a thing possessed by Satan the original Eldritch Abomination, the result is the same.

** Special mention must go to the last three. For starters, Nyx and Gaea can reproduce by themselves, and yet they have their first sons, Erebus[[note]]Darkness[[/note]] and Ouranos[[note]]Sky[[/note]], become [[{{Squick}} their husbands]]. Gaea and Tartarus even have an affair, see below. Nyx also appears a human woman, and yet is so powerful that ''Zeus'' is '''terrified''' of her, while he had no problems messing with Gaea.
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** Special mention must go to the last three. For starters, Nyx and Gaea can reproduce by themselves, and yet they have their first sons, Erebus[[note]]Darkness[[/note]] and Ouranos[[note]]Sky[[/note]], become [[{{Squick}} their husbands]]. We don't know how Gaea and Tartarus even looks like, but they have an affair, affair once, see below. Nyx also on the other hand appears as a [[HumanoidAbomination human woman, woman]], and yet is so powerful that ''Zeus'' is '''terrified''' of her, while he had has no problems problem messing with Gaea.
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* Khaos, when portrayed as a deity and not a giant [[PrimordialChaos void]] that reality came from (and the first of the [[TheOldGods Protogenoi]], who aren't just older than the Olympians, they are older than even the [[OurTitansAreDifferent Titans]]! If Greek myth is paralleled to Lovecraftian myth, then the Protogenoi are the Outer Gods and the Titans are the Great Old Ones), is described by Ovid as "rather a crude and undigested mass, a lifeless lump, unfashioned and unframed, of jarring seeds and justly Chaos named." Also, Chaos is the mass on which all the other deities (and therefore the cosmos, with the deities being {{Anthropomorphic Personification}}s of universal laws) emerged. A lumpy, crude, unframed mass, creating the universe as we know it? Throw some tentacles on it, put it in the center of infinity, and call it Azathoth! ** The rest of the Protogenoi starts with the hermaphrodite Phanes [[TheMagnificent Protogonos]][[note]]the Firstborn[[/note]] who was born from the [[CosmicEgg Orphic Egg]], which had the serpent Ophioneus wrapped around it[[note]]Making this serpent even bigger than Leviathan, Jormungandr, and Nidhoggr![[/note]]. The protogenoi also includes [[MotherEarth Gaea]][[note]]the entire planet[[/note]], and her husband Ouranous[[note]]the sky itself[[/note]], when he isn't also her son, that is. [[{{Hell}} Tartarus]], which came inhandy when Ouranous found that the first batch of children to come from the union of two [[{{Squick}} Incestuous Abominations]] were equally abominable, see below. Before Neptune, Oceanus, Pontus, and all the other Greek Gods and Goddesses of the sea/ocean et al, there was Thalassa; sometimes she is Gaea's daughter, sometime her granddaughter by Aether[[note]]Light, male[[/note]] and Hemara[[note]]Day, female[[/note]], the counterparts of which, Erebus[[note]]Darkness, male[[/note]] and Nyx[[note]]Night, female[[/note]], are also a couple. ** Speaking of Nyx, she appears as a perfectly normal, even beautiful, woman. Yet she happens to be so frighteningly powerful ''Zeus'' is openly '''terrified''' of crossing her. She reproduces mostly by [[TrulySingleParent parthenogenesis]], and said children include Hypnos (Dream), Thanatos (Death), Moros (Doom), Ker (Fate, Destruction), the Oneiroi (Dreams), Momus (Blame), Oizys (Woe, Pain), the Hesperides (Sunset), the Moirae (Destiny), Nemesis (Retribution), Apate (Deceit), Philotes (Friendship, Love), Geras (Old Age), Dolus (Trickery) and Eris (Strife).
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* Khaos, when portrayed as a deity and not a giant [[PrimordialChaos void]] that reality came from (and the first of the [[TheOldGods Protogenoi]], who aren't just older than the Olympians, they are older than even the [[OurTitansAreDifferent Titans]]! If Greek myth is paralleled to Lovecraftian myth, then the Protogenoi are the Outer Gods and the Titans are the Great Old Ones), Titans]]!), is described by Ovid as "rather a crude and undigested mass, a lifeless lump, unfashioned and unframed, of jarring seeds and justly Chaos named." Also, Chaos is the mass on which all the other deities Protogenoi (and therefore the cosmos, with the deities being universe, since Protogenoi are {{Anthropomorphic Personification}}s of universal cosmic laws) emerged. A lumpy, crude, unframed mass, creating the universe as we know it? Throw some tentacles on it, put it in the center of infinity, and call it Azathoth! ** The rest of the Protogenoi starts with are only marginally less eldritch. The serpent Ophion/Ophioneus, ruled the hermaphrodite Phanes [[TheMagnificent Protogonos]][[note]]the Firstborn[[/note]] who was born from universe before creation, before incubating the [[CosmicEgg Orphic Egg]], which had Egg]][[note]]This means that the serpent Ophioneus wrapped around it[[note]]Making this serpent even is bigger than Leviathan, Jormungandr, ''the universe''[[/note]], which was then silced open by Chronos[[note]]Time itself[[/note]] and Nidhoggr![[/note]]. Ananke[[note]][[YouCantFightFate Inevitability]][[/note]]. The protogenoi also includes [[MotherEarth Gaea]][[note]]the entire planet[[/note]], first being coming from the Egg, Phanes/Eros/[[TheMagnificent Protogonos]][[note]]Appearance, Procreation, and her husband Ouranous[[note]]the sky itself[[/note]], when he isn't also her son, that is. the Firstborn, meaning the previous beings mentioned, were not born[[/note]]. From then on, it's unclear which Protogenoi came into being first, there are Thesis[[note]]Creation[[/note]], Hydros[[note]]Primordial Waters[[/note]], Nyx[[note]]Night[[/note]], Gaea[[note]]Nature[[/note]], and [[{{Hell}} Tartarus]], which came inhandy when Ouranous found that Tartarus]]. ** Special mention must go to the last three. For starters, Nyx and Gaea can reproduce by themselves, and yet they have their first batch of children to come from the union of two sons, Erebus[[note]]Darkness[[/note]] and Ouranos[[note]]Sky[[/note]], become [[{{Squick}} Incestuous Abominations]] were equally abominable, their husbands]]. Gaea and Tartarus even have an affair, see below. Before Neptune, Oceanus, Pontus, and all the other Greek Gods and Goddesses of the sea/ocean et al, there was Thalassa; sometimes she is Gaea's daughter, sometime her granddaughter by Aether[[note]]Light, male[[/note]] and Hemara[[note]]Day, female[[/note]], the counterparts of which, Erebus[[note]]Darkness, male[[/note]] and Nyx[[note]]Night, female[[/note]], are Nyx also a couple. ** Speaking of Nyx, she appears as a perfectly normal, even beautiful, woman. Yet she happens to be human woman, and yet is so frighteningly powerful that ''Zeus'' is openly '''terrified''' of crossing her. She reproduces mostly by [[TrulySingleParent parthenogenesis]], and said children include Hypnos (Dream), Thanatos (Death), Moros (Doom), Ker (Fate, Destruction), the Oneiroi (Dreams), Momus (Blame), Oizys (Woe, Pain), the Hesperides (Sunset), the Moirae (Destiny), Nemesis (Retribution), Apate (Deceit), Philotes (Friendship, Love), Geras (Old Age), Dolus (Trickery) and Eris (Strife).her, while he had no problems messing with Gaea.
30th Dec '15 4:48:29 AM 082122712641
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He was an [[TheOmnipotent All-in-One]] and [[TheOmniscient One-in-All]] of limitless being and self not merely a thing of one Space-Time continuum, but allied to the ultimate animating essence of existence's whole unbounded sweep the last, utter sweep which has no confines and which outreaches fancy and mathematics alike. It was perhaps that which the religion and philosophy of Christianity of earth have referred to indirectly by the common noun '''God''', and which has been a deity under other names; that which the Muslims worship as '''Allah''', and by which the Rabbis of Judaism whisper by a cryptic arcane Tetragrammaton that only appears in Latin transliteration as '''"YHVH"'''. Most people think it would have been pronounced '''"Jehovah", "Yahowah", "Yahuh", or "Yahweh",''' but [[TheUnpronounceable no one can really be sure]]. It was theorized that [[HeWhoMustNotBeNamed properly pronouncing the name of God will only result in insanity]], hence [[Film/MontyPythonsLifeOfBrian why it is a blasphemy in Ancient Jewish folklore to attempt it]]. The "[[GrandpaGod elder]]" we represent in our art is, in fact, just [[YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm one of many forms]] and may in fact have both female and male traits. In fact God existing on such a vaster plane of existence than humanity might think of a mortal form as laughably inconvenient and beneath the dignity of His Omnipotent status. The Bible rarely even gives any description that could let one picture a physical appearance, typically calling God a spirit, and the few times it does it's made clear this is only a form He chose for that occasion. In Kings 19:12 He comes as a simple whisper in the wind but in Ezekiel 1:27...
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He was is an [[TheOmnipotent All-in-One]] and [[TheOmniscient One-in-All]] of limitless being and self not merely a thing of one Space-Time continuum, but allied to the ultimate animating essence of existence's whole unbounded sweep the last, utter sweep which has no confines and which outreaches fancy and mathematics alike. It was is perhaps that which the religion and philosophy of Christianity of earth have referred to indirectly by the common noun '''God''', and which has been a deity under other names; that which the Muslims worship as '''Allah''', and by which the Rabbis of Judaism whisper by a cryptic arcane Tetragrammaton that only appears in Latin transliteration as '''"YHVH"'''. Most people think it would have been pronounced '''"Jehovah", "Yahowah", "Yahuh", or "Yahweh",''' but [[TheUnpronounceable no one can really be sure]]. It was theorized that [[HeWhoMustNotBeNamed properly pronouncing the name of God will only result in insanity]], hence [[Film/MontyPythonsLifeOfBrian why it is a blasphemy in Ancient Jewish folklore to attempt it]]. The "[[GrandpaGod elder]]" we represent in our art is, in fact, just [[YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm [[AFormYouAreComfortableWith one of many forms]] and may in fact have both female and male traits. In fact God existing God, who exist on such a vaster plane of existence than humanity might think of a mortal form as laughably inconvenient and beneath the dignity of His Omnipotent status. The Bible rarely even gives any description that could let one picture a physical appearance, typically calling God a spirit, and the few times it does it's made clear this is only a form He chose for that occasion. In Kings 19:12 He comes as a simple whisper in the wind but in Ezekiel 1:27...

[[CompleteImmortality He can never die]] and could likely claim that it had been around since the dawn of eternity, [[Creator/HPLovecraft and with strange aeons even Death itself]] ''will'' die and be thrown into Hell. He [[TimeAbyss has existed before time itself began and will exist long after the fabric of space and time itself has died]], [[TimeyWimeyBall is literally the beginning and the end of all things and thus has seen the beginning of history, and will usher in the end of history as well. On top of that, He never changes and is the same yesterday, today, tomorrow and forever,]] [[DoubleThink despite changing His ideas every chapter and then,]] and... [[GoMadFromTheRevelation My brain already hurts]] from the potential self-contradictory [[RealityBreakingParadox paradoxes]] this entity could incur, but that's actually just a ''very tiny part'' of theological {{wild mass guessing}} on what the nature of God ''really'' is, of which St. Thomas Aquinas' proposal that He is ''Existence itself''--not the Universe, but ''Existence''--is the ''least'' incomprehensible. There's a reason why some people can only sum Him and all the contradicting descriptions of Him up as "God works in mysterious ways".\\
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[[CompleteImmortality He can never die]] and could likely claim that it had been around since the dawn of eternity, [[Creator/HPLovecraft and with strange aeons even Death itself]] ''will'' die and be thrown into Hell. He [[TimeAbyss has existed before time itself began and will exist long after the fabric of space and time itself has died]], [[TimeyWimeyBall is literally the beginning and the end of all things and thus has seen the beginning of history, and will usher in the end of history as well. On top of that, He never changes and is the same yesterday, today, tomorrow and forever,]] forever]], [[DoubleThink despite changing His ideas every chapter and then,]] then]], and... [[GoMadFromTheRevelation My brain already hurts]] from the potential self-contradictory [[RealityBreakingParadox paradoxes]] this entity could incur, but that's actually just a ''very tiny part'' of theological {{wild mass guessing}} on what the nature of God ''really'' is, of which St. Thomas Aquinas' proposal that He is ''Existence itself''--not the Universe, but ''Existence''--is the ''least'' incomprehensible. There's a reason why some people can only sum Him and all the contradicting descriptions of Him up as "God works in mysterious ways".\\

Basically, Cthulhu is a cute little [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment cutie]] compared to God. A related postulation is that His true form will MindRape you with its sheer eldritch glory and completely annihilate free will forever. Worst of all, [[YouCantFightFate He completely controls our destiny whether we like it or not]]. [[GodOfTheGaps He literally did everything.]] [[InsignificantLittleBluePlanet Unlike other Outer Gods]], however, [[DidWeJustHaveTeaWithCthulhu God at least provides love as long as you worship and revere Him]], and He has the decency to either (depending on your point of view) [[UsefulNotes/{{Islam}} work through slightly less eldritch intermediaries]] like the ArchangelGabriel or, if you're Christian, take AFormYouAreComfortableWith (one we all love named [[JesusWasWayCool Jesus]]) (then again, Outer Gods communicate with us through Nyarlathotep and considering Jesus' true form in Revelation...), but then again, He can and will perform many nasty acts like [[{{Hell}} smite and punish thee]] for the tiniest amounts of [[Literature/NineteenEightyFour Thought Crime]]. He might be forgiving, but [[{{Pride}} if anybody else]], [[{{Satan}} even the most powerful of the Angels]], [[TemptingFate are stupid enough]] [[BlasphemousBoast to think of themselves Above the Most High]], then he's ''[[FateWorseThanDeath definitely]] [[CurbstompBattle screwed]]''.\\
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Basically, Cthulhu is a cute little [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment cutie]] compared to God. A related postulation is that His true form will MindRape you with its sheer eldritch glory and completely annihilate free will forever. Worst of all, Also, [[YouCantFightFate He completely controls our destiny whether we like it or not]]. [[GodOfTheGaps [[AWizardDidIt He literally did everything.]] everything]]. [[InsignificantLittleBluePlanet Unlike other Outer Gods]], however, [[DidWeJustHaveTeaWithCthulhu God at least provides love as long as you worship and revere Him]], and He has the decency to either (depending on your point of view) [[UsefulNotes/{{Islam}} work through slightly less eldritch intermediaries]] like the ArchangelGabriel or, if you're Christian, take AFormYouAreComfortableWith (one we all love named [[JesusWasWayCool Jesus]]) (then again, Outer Gods communicate with us through Nyarlathotep and considering Jesus' true form in Revelation...), but then again, He can and will perform many nasty acts like [[{{Hell}} smite and punish thee]] for the tiniest amounts of [[Literature/NineteenEightyFour Thought Crime]]. He might be forgiving, but [[{{Pride}} if anybody else]], [[{{Satan}} even the most powerful of the Angels]], [[TemptingFate are stupid enough]] [[BlasphemousBoast to think of themselves Above above the Most High]], then he's ''[[FateWorseThanDeath definitely]] [[CurbstompBattle [[CurbStompBattle screwed]]''.\\

His omnipotence, combined with [[GoodIsNotNice pretty extreme measures]] when dealing with heresy, still makes Him a force to be reckoned with. He's [[GodIsGood overall trying to be nice]], but He is harsh. Even our best theologians and philosophers don't help in describing His [[MindScrew Mind Screw]]-like nature, with interpretations so contradicting it ends up inspiring [[TheCrusades War, Madness and Terror]] on both sides. ** Islam takes this bit particularly seriously; being the omnipotent, omnipresent being who created the Universe, it is forbidden to portray Him in pictures, partly, at least, because YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm.[[note]]It is also usually considered forbidden or at least highly discouraged to portray UsefulNotes/TheProphetMuhammad or any of the other prophets, but that's because making images of them is thought to lead to eventual worship of them and that's not allowed--that would be elevating the Prophet to the same level as God, and remember that bit about thinking yourself better than the Most High? Applies when you think other people are on the same level as the Most High, too.[[/note]] ** In fact, just ''looking'' at Him causes you to explode. The Kabbalist philosophy is that a Seraph burns by consequence of being smart enough to understand the most high's glory better than anything else. In Exodus 33, Moses had to cower behind a rock to look at the back of God! ** In the Quran (7:143), Moses insists that God allow him to see his true form. God instead says that he will reveal himself to a nearby mountain, and if Moses can take that, he'll be able to see God's true form. The mountain is obliterated and Moses is knocked unconscious just by seeing it.
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His omnipotence, combined with [[GoodIsNotNice pretty extreme measures]] when dealing with heresy, still makes Him a force to be reckoned with. He's [[GodIsGood overall trying to be nice]], but He is harsh. Even our best theologians and philosophers don't help in describing His [[MindScrew Mind Screw]]-like nature, with interpretations so contradicting it ends up inspiring [[TheCrusades War, Madness and Terror]] on both sides. ** sides.\\ \\ Basically, Cthulhu is a cute little [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment cutie]] compared to God. A related postulation is that His true form will MindRape you with its sheer eldritch glory and completely annihilate free will forever. Islam takes this that last bit particularly seriously; being the omnipotent, omnipresent omniscient being who created the Universe, it is forbidden to portray Him in pictures, partly, at least, because YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm.[[note]]It is also usually considered forbidden or at least highly discouraged to portray UsefulNotes/TheProphetMuhammad or any of the other prophets, but that's because making images of them is thought to lead to eventual worship of them and that's not allowed--that would be elevating the Prophet to the same level as God, and remember that bit about thinking yourself better than the Most High? Applies when you think other people are on the same level as the Most High, too.[[/note]] ** [[/note]]\\ \\ In fact, just ''looking'' at Him causes you to explode. The Kabbalist philosophy is that a Seraph burns by consequence of being smart enough to understand the most high's glory better than anything else. In Exodus 33, Moses had to cower behind a rock to look at the back of God! ** In God, and in the Quran (7:143), Moses insists that God allow him to see his true form. God instead says that he will reveal himself to a nearby mountain, and if Moses can take that, he'll be able to see God's true form. The mountain is obliterated and Moses is knocked unconscious just by seeing it.

** The ancient depictions of angels are more like traditional Eldritch Abominations than the [[FluffyCloudHeaven fluffy cloud angels]] we see nowadays on Christmas decorations. The cherubim (Yes, those cuties we all know today) have four faces - a lion on the right, an ox on the left, a human forward, and an eagle backward. They have four wings, with HANDS under the wings, their legs described as simply "straight", and they have hooves. Also, [[ExtraEyes the eyes]]. [[EyesDoNotBelongThere Everywhere.]] [[UpToEleven Even in the spaces between the eyes.]] Furthermore, the exact meaning of "Cherubim" has been lost to time but upon observing a group of abnormal "Chayyot", "living creatures", Ezekiel is surprised by the revelation of them being Cherubim. This means, in the eyes of the Hebrews, their most outstanding characteristic amongst the other orders of angels was that ''they are alive.'' Not so cute anymore, is it? *** Things get weirder still. Bound to the Living Creatures/Cherubium are giant wheel-machines of topaz, [[AlienGeometries intersecting with themselves and spinning in up to four directions at once]], following the Cherubium everywhere. Apparently, these wheels act as a Cherub's {{Soul Jar}}.
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** The ancient biblical depictions of angels are more like traditional Eldritch Abominations than the [[FluffyCloudHeaven fluffy cloud angels]] we see nowadays on Christmas decorations. The cherubim (Yes, those cuties we all know today) have four faces - a lion on the right, an ox on the left, a human forward, and an eagle backward. They have four wings, with HANDS under the wings, their legs described as simply "straight", and they have hooves. Also, [[ExtraEyes the eyes]]. [[EyesDoNotBelongThere Everywhere.]] [[UpToEleven Even in the spaces between the eyes.]] Furthermore, the exact meaning of "Cherubim" has been lost to time but upon observing a group of abnormal "Chayyot", "living creatures", Ezekiel is surprised by the revelation of them being Cherubim. This means, in the eyes of the Hebrews, their most outstanding characteristic amongst the other orders of angels was that ''they are alive.'' Not so cute anymore, is it? *** Things get weirder still. Bound to the Living Creatures/Cherubium Creatures/Cherubim are giant wheel-machines of topaz, [[AlienGeometries intersecting with themselves and spinning in up to four directions at once]], following the Cherubium Cherubim everywhere. Apparently, these wheels act as a Cherub's {{Soul Jar}}.

* Khaos, when portrayed as a deity and not a giant [[PrimordialChaos void]] that reality came from (and one of the [[TheOldGods Protogenoi]], who aren't just older than the Olympians, they are older than even the [[OurTitansAreDifferent Titans]]! If Greek myth is paralleled to Lovecraftian myth, then the Protogenoi are the Outer Gods and the Titans are the Great Old Ones), is described by Ovid as "rather a crude and undigested mass, a lifeless lump, unfashioned and unframed, of jarring seeds and justly Chaos named." Also, Chaos is the mass on which all the other gods (and therefore the cosmos, with the gods being {{Anthropomorphic Personification}}s of universal laws) emerged. A lumpy, crude, unframed mass, creating the universe as we know it? Throw some tentacles on it, put it in the center of infinity, and call it Azathoth!
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* Khaos, when portrayed as a deity and not a giant [[PrimordialChaos void]] that reality came from (and one the first of the [[TheOldGods Protogenoi]], who aren't just older than the Olympians, they are older than even the [[OurTitansAreDifferent Titans]]! If Greek myth is paralleled to Lovecraftian myth, then the Protogenoi are the Outer Gods and the Titans are the Great Old Ones), is described by Ovid as "rather a crude and undigested mass, a lifeless lump, unfashioned and unframed, of jarring seeds and justly Chaos named." Also, Chaos is the mass on which all the other gods deities (and therefore the cosmos, with the gods deities being {{Anthropomorphic Personification}}s of universal laws) emerged. A lumpy, crude, unframed mass, creating the universe as we know it? Throw some tentacles on it, put it in the center of infinity, and call it Azathoth!

** Speaking of Nyx, she appears as a perfectly normal, even beautiful, woman. Yet she happens to be so frigheningly powerful ''Zeus'' is openly '''terrified''' of crossing her. She reproduces mostly by [[TrulySingleParent parthenogenesis]], and said children include Hypnos (Dream), Thanatos (Death), Moros (Doom), Ker (Fate, Destruction), the Oneiroi (Dreams), Momus (Blame), Oizys (Woe, Pain), the Hesperides (Sunset), the Moirae (Destiny), Nemesis (Retribution), Apate (Deceit), Philotes (Friendship, Love), Geras (Old Age), Dolus (Trickery) and Eris (Strife).
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** Speaking of Nyx, she appears as a perfectly normal, even beautiful, woman. Yet she happens to be so frigheningly frighteningly powerful ''Zeus'' is openly '''terrified''' of crossing her. She reproduces mostly by [[TrulySingleParent parthenogenesis]], and said children include Hypnos (Dream), Thanatos (Death), Moros (Doom), Ker (Fate, Destruction), the Oneiroi (Dreams), Momus (Blame), Oizys (Woe, Pain), the Hesperides (Sunset), the Moirae (Destiny), Nemesis (Retribution), Apate (Deceit), Philotes (Friendship, Love), Geras (Old Age), Dolus (Trickery) and Eris (Strife).
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** Islam takes this bit particularly seriously; being the omnipotent, omnipresent being who created the Universe, it is forbidden to portray Him in pictures, partly, at least, because YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm.[[note]]It is also usually considered forbidden or at least highly discouraged to portray TheProphetMuhammad or any of the other prophets, but that's because making images of them is thought to lead to eventual worship of them and that's not allowed--that would be elevating the Prophet to the same level as God, and remember that bit about thinking yourself better than the Most High? Applies when you think other people are on the same level as the Most High, too.[[/note]]
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** Islam takes this bit particularly seriously; being the omnipotent, omnipresent being who created the Universe, it is forbidden to portray Him in pictures, partly, at least, because YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm.[[note]]It is also usually considered forbidden or at least highly discouraged to portray TheProphetMuhammad UsefulNotes/TheProphetMuhammad or any of the other prophets, but that's because making images of them is thought to lead to eventual worship of them and that's not allowed--that would be elevating the Prophet to the same level as God, and remember that bit about thinking yourself better than the Most High? Applies when you think other people are on the same level as the Most High, too.[[/note]]
29th Oct '15 11:25:54 AM Materioptikon
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** Speaking of Nyx, she appears as a perfectly normal, even beautiful, woman. Yet she happens to be so frigheningly powerful ''Zeus'' is openly '''terrified''' of crossing her. She reproduces mostly by [[TrulySingleParent parthenogenesis]], and said children include Hypnos (Dream), Thanatos (Death), Moros (Doom), Ker (Fate, Destruction), the Oneiroi (Dreams), Momus (Blame), Oizys (Woe, Pain), the Hesperides (Sunset), the Moirae (Destiny), Namesis (Retribution), Apate (Deceit), Philotes (Friendship, Love), Geras (Old Age), Dolus (Trickery) and Eris (Strife).
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** Speaking of Nyx, she appears as a perfectly normal, even beautiful, woman. Yet she happens to be so frigheningly powerful ''Zeus'' is openly '''terrified''' of crossing her. She reproduces mostly by [[TrulySingleParent parthenogenesis]], and said children include Hypnos (Dream), Thanatos (Death), Moros (Doom), Ker (Fate, Destruction), the Oneiroi (Dreams), Momus (Blame), Oizys (Woe, Pain), the Hesperides (Sunset), the Moirae (Destiny), Namesis Nemesis (Retribution), Apate (Deceit), Philotes (Friendship, Love), Geras (Old Age), Dolus (Trickery) and Eris (Strife).
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