History EldritchAbomination / MythologyAndReligion

13th Nov '17 5:19:07 PM woerer1
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Nobody, but nobody, does the supernatural Eldritch Entity quite like the Western world's favorite religious tradition. The concept of monotheism, combined with the Platonic Theory of Forms (a direct and heavy influence on modern "Pauline" Christianity and a less direct influence on both Rabbinic Judaism and Islam) and taken to both ideas' extremes is a fantastically alien experience. All the major Abrahamic religions and apologetics emphasize how the true form of God (and all the other "higher" celestial beings, but especially God) is beyond logic, causality, physics and comprehension of the human mind, because of His Infinite and Transcendent nature, and so, trying to completely categorize or quantify these entities is just trying to exercise in complete futility. So, with that said let us truly start:\\

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Let us begin with a preface: Nobody, but nobody, does the supernatural Eldritch Entity quite like the Western world's favorite favourite religious tradition. The concept of monotheism, combined with the Platonic Theory of Forms (a direct and heavy influence on modern "Pauline" Christianity and a less direct influence on both Rabbinic Judaism and Islam) and taken to both ideas' extremes is a fantastically alien experience. All the major Abrahamic religions and apologetics emphasize how the true form of God (and all the other "higher" celestial beings, but especially God) is beyond logic, causality, physics and comprehension of the human mind, because of His Infinite and Transcendent nature, and so, trying to completely categorize or quantify apply logic to these entities is just trying to exercise in complete futility. So, with that said let us truly start:\\
22nd Oct '17 4:10:23 PM DustSnitch
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Also, [[YouCantFightFate He completely controls our destiny whether we like it or not]]. [[AWizardDidIt He literally did everything]]. [[InsignificantLittleBluePlanet Unlike other Outer Gods]], however, [[DidWeJustHaveTeaWithCthulhu God at least provides love as long as you worship and revere Him]], and He has the decency to either (depending on your point of view) [[UsefulNotes/{{Islam}} work through slightly less eldritch intermediaries]] like the ArchangelGabriel or, if you're Christian, take AFormYouAreComfortableWith (one we all love named [[JesusWasWayCool Jesus]]), but then again, He can and will perform many [[GoodIsNotSoft violent]] acts like [[BoltOfDivineRetribution smite and punish thee]] and by His law [[HumansAreFlawed we sinful humans]] would be bound for Hell for the tiniest amounts of [[Literature/NineteenEightyFour Thought Crime]] (but God understands that HumansAreFlawed, hence why He sent Jesus to [[TakingTheHeat take the heat]]). He might be forgiving, but [[{{Pride}} if anybody else]], [[{{Satan}} even the most powerful of the Angels]], [[TemptingFate are stupid enough]] [[BlasphemousBoast to think of themselves above the Most High]], then he's ''[[FateWorseThanDeath definitely]] [[CurbStompBattle screwed]]''.\\

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Also, [[YouCantFightFate He completely controls our destiny whether we like it or not]]. [[AWizardDidIt He literally did everything]]. [[InsignificantLittleBluePlanet Unlike other Outer Gods]], however, [[DidWeJustHaveTeaWithCthulhu God at least provides love as long as you worship and revere Him]], and He has the decency to either (depending on your point of view) [[UsefulNotes/{{Islam}} work through slightly less eldritch intermediaries]] like the ArchangelGabriel or, if you're Christian, take AFormYouAreComfortableWith (one we all love named [[JesusWasWayCool Jesus]]), but then again, He can and will perform many [[GoodIsNotSoft violent]] acts like [[BoltOfDivineRetribution smite and punish thee]] and by His law [[HumansAreFlawed we sinful humans]] would be bound for Hell for the tiniest amounts of [[Literature/NineteenEightyFour Thought Crime]] (but God understands that HumansAreFlawed, hence why He sent Jesus to [[TakingTheHeat take the heat]]). He might be forgiving, but [[{{Pride}} if anybody else]], else, [[{{Satan}} even the most powerful of the Angels]], [[TemptingFate are stupid enough]] [[BlasphemousBoast enough to think of themselves above the Most High]], High, then he's ''[[FateWorseThanDeath definitely]] [[CurbStompBattle ''[[Hell definitely screwed]]''.\\
22nd Sep '17 7:21:39 AM Carliro
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He is an [[TheOmnipotent All-in-One]] and [[TheOmniscient One-in-All]] of limitless being and self not merely a thing of one Space-Time continuum, but allied to the ultimate animating essence of existence's whole unbounded sweep the last, utter sweep which has no confines and which outreaches fancy and mathematics alike. It is perhaps that which the religion and philosophy of Christianity of earth have referred to indirectly by the common noun '''God''', and which has been a deity under other names; that which the Muslims worship as '''Allah''', and by which the Rabbis of Judaism whisper by a cryptic arcane Tetragrammaton that only appears in Latin transliteration as '''"YHWH"''' (sometimes denoted as '''"YHVH"'''). Most people think it would have been pronounced '''"Jehovah", "Yahowah", "Yahuh", or "Yahweh",''' but [[TheUnpronounceable no one can really be sure]]. It was theorized that [[HeWhoMustNotBeNamed properly pronouncing the name of God will only result in insanity]], hence [[Film/MontyPythonsLifeOfBrian why it is a blasphemy in Ancient Jewish folklore to attempt it]].

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He is an [[TheOmnipotent All-in-One]] and [[TheOmniscient One-in-All]] of limitless being and self not merely a thing of one Space-Time continuum, but allied to the ultimate animating essence of existence's whole unbounded sweep the last, utter sweep which has no confines and which outreaches fancy and mathematics alike. It is perhaps that which the religion and philosophy of Christianity of earth have referred to indirectly by the common noun '''God''', and which has been a deity under other names; that which the Muslims worship as '''Allah''', and by which the Rabbis of Judaism whisper by a cryptic arcane Tetragrammaton that only appears in Latin transliteration as '''"YHWH"''' (sometimes denoted as '''"YHVH"'''). Most people think it would have been pronounced '''"Jehovah", "Yahowah", "Yahuh", or "Yahweh",''' but [[TheUnpronounceable no one can really be sure]]. It was theorized that [[HeWhoMustNotBeNamed properly pronouncing the name of God will only result in insanity]], hence [[Film/MontyPythonsLifeOfBrian why it is a blasphemy in Ancient Jewish folklore to attempt it]]. \n[[note]]In actuality it was for more practical reasons: in [[Myth/HebrewMythology ancient Semitic religions]] writing the name of a deity was common for mystical purposes, and the worshipers of Yahweh simply didn't want to risk the possibility of someone else using their god against them. A similar incident occurred with the Egyptian Aten, in which the conventional way of writing a god's name was replaced by the pharaohnic cartouche.[[/note]]
8th Aug '17 10:46:46 PM SeveralCakes
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** Some Christians have interpreted several verses, such as many in Corinthians 15, as that Yahweh changed mankind's original shape into that we have now, and that we will regain the original form when we meet Jesus again. Judging by the two forms Jesus takes in Revelation, [[HumansAreCthulhu we will most definitely become those]] [[EldritchAbomination eldritch]] [[PhysicalGod beings]] [[MindScrew that]] [[GainaxEnding caused]] [[AssimilationPlot Instrumentality]]. A rarely used trait of {{eldritch abomination}}s is the ability to mutate surrounding lifeforms by ''its very presence''.

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** Some Christians have interpreted several verses, such as many in Corinthians 15, as that Yahweh changed mankind's original shape into that we have now, and that we will regain the original form when we meet Jesus again. Judging by the two forms Jesus takes in Revelation, [[HumansAreCthulhu we will most definitely become those]] [[EldritchAbomination eldritch]] [[PhysicalGod beings]] [[MindScrew that]] [[GainaxEnding caused]] [[AssimilationPlot Instrumentality]].the]] [[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion First Ancestral Race]]. A rarely used trait of {{eldritch abomination}}s is the ability to mutate surrounding lifeforms by ''its very presence''.
4th Jul '17 10:10:34 AM nombretomado
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* Gaea produced another one when she slept with her own grandson Poseidon, unless she is one of Ekhidnai's and Typhon's children, that is. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charybdis Charybdis]] was apparently once a beautiful naiad, but was transformed by Zeus into a horrible and utterly inhuman monster. According to TheOtherWiki, in some versions, she is a ''huge bladder of a creature whose face was all mouth and whose arms and legs were flippers'' (a bit like a nautical [[Film/ReturnOfTheJedi Sarlacc]]) that belches out whirlpools, while in others, she ''is'' a giant whirlpool. When forced to choose between Scylla and Charybdis, Odysseus quickly chose Scylla for good reason. For her part, Scylla is also an eldritch abomination,

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* Gaea produced another one when she slept with her own grandson Poseidon, unless she is one of Ekhidnai's and Typhon's children, that is. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charybdis Charybdis]] was apparently once a beautiful naiad, but was transformed by Zeus into a horrible and utterly inhuman monster. According to TheOtherWiki, Wiki/TheOtherWiki, in some versions, she is a ''huge bladder of a creature whose face was all mouth and whose arms and legs were flippers'' (a bit like a nautical [[Film/ReturnOfTheJedi Sarlacc]]) that belches out whirlpools, while in others, she ''is'' a giant whirlpool. When forced to choose between Scylla and Charybdis, Odysseus quickly chose Scylla for good reason. For her part, Scylla is also an eldritch abomination,
3rd Jul '17 1:32:30 PM EtherReal
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His omnipotence, combined with [[GoodIsNotNice pretty extreme measures]] when dealing with heresy [[GoodIsNotSoft and sin]], still makes Him a force to be reckoned with. He's [[GodIsGood overall trying to be nice]], but He is harsh. Even our best theologians and philosophers don't help in describing His [[MindScrew Mind Screw]]-like nature, with interpretations so contradicting it ends up inspiring [[UsefulNotes/TheCrusades War, Madness and Terror]] on both sides.\\

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His omnipotence, combined with [[GoodIsNotNice pretty extreme measures]] when dealing with heresy [[GoodIsNotSoft and sin]], still makes Him a force to be reckoned with. He's [[GodIsGood overall trying to be nice]], but He is harsh. [[note]]It should be explained that the reason for this is that, in Abrahamic religions, the act of sin or heresy is--even if unintentionally--a personal attack against God's Word.[[/note]] Even our best theologians and philosophers don't help in describing His [[MindScrew Mind Screw]]-like nature, with interpretations so contradicting it ends up inspiring [[UsefulNotes/TheCrusades War, Madness and Terror]] on both sides.\\
13th Jun '17 6:13:15 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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** Apep, or Apophis, from Myth/EgyptianMythology was a gigantic serpent-demon that embodied chaos and darkness. Every night it tried to eat Ra as he passed through the underworld, and every night Ra killed it - but it always came back. Sometimes it was strong enough during the day to temporarily consume Ra before his attendants cut him free again (this was the Egyptian explanation for solar eclipses). Prior to the demonization of Set, Apep was the canonical ultimate evil of Myth/EgyptianMythology (and even after that demonization, many traditions still maintained that Set helped Ra fight Apep each night, because [[EvilVersusOblivion Set needs the world to exist for him to rule it]]) and there's no solid evidence that Apep was ''ever'' worshiped as a positive force. There ''were'' temples in Egypt dedicated to the worship of Apep, but it was more along the lines of praying "Please, please, please, ''please'' do not let this monstrosity ever win." It was sort of worship AGAINST Apep.

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** Apep, or Apophis, from Myth/EgyptianMythology was a gigantic serpent-demon that embodied chaos and darkness. Every night it tried to eat Ra as he passed through the underworld, and every night Ra killed it - but it always came back. Sometimes it was strong enough during the day to temporarily consume Ra before his attendants cut him free again (this was the Egyptian explanation for solar eclipses). Prior to the demonization {{demonization}} of Set, Apep was the canonical ultimate evil of Myth/EgyptianMythology (and even after that demonization, many traditions still maintained that Set helped Ra fight Apep each night, because [[EvilVersusOblivion Set needs the world to exist for him to rule it]]) and there's no solid evidence that Apep was ''ever'' worshiped as a positive force. There ''were'' temples in Egypt dedicated to the worship of Apep, but it was more along the lines of praying "Please, please, please, ''please'' do not let this monstrosity ever win." It was sort of worship AGAINST Apep.
7th Jun '17 2:18:07 PM Chetret
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* The first children of Gaea and Ouranous were the Hecatoncheires (meaning The [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Hundred Handed Ones]]), who had one hundred arms, [[CaptainObvious one hundred hands]], and fifty heads with no further details of their appearance given. Compare that to [[http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l12yfdd8ov1qbz35lo1_500.jpg Ravana]], who had only ten heads and twenty arms, though even that is enough to put him on the border of this trope. Now try and imagine what the Hecatoncheires looked like. [[YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm You can't quite do it]] [[GoMadFromTheRevelation can you?]] Nope, the only name the Greeks could even come up with for these things was basically to call them "those things with one-hundred hands", which was about all we humans could comprehend of them. Well, here is what [[http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/EPIC_Gallery/Gallery5b/44257_C5_Hecatoncheires.jpg D&D]] came up with when they asked their artists to draw one.

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* The first children of Gaea and Ouranous were the Hecatoncheires (meaning The [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Hundred Handed Ones]]), who had one hundred arms, [[CaptainObvious one hundred hands]], and fifty heads with no further details of their appearance given. Compare that to [[http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l12yfdd8ov1qbz35lo1_500.[[http://www.harekrsna.de/surya/ravana-4.jpg Ravana]], who had only ten heads and twenty arms, though even that is enough to put him on the border of this trope. Now try and imagine what the Hecatoncheires looked like. [[YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm You can't quite do it]] [[GoMadFromTheRevelation can you?]] Nope, the only name the Greeks could even come up with for these things was basically to call them "those things with one-hundred hands", which was about all we humans could comprehend of them. Well, here is what [[http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/EPIC_Gallery/Gallery5b/44257_C5_Hecatoncheires.jpg D&D]] came up with when they asked their artists to draw one.
7th Jun '17 2:12:11 PM Chetret
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*** Simply put, the Universe and Everything that exists (yes, EVERYTHING) is a part of a greater cosmic being, known as Brahma . Or put simply, the Universe is a GeniusLoci that is an EldritchAbomination. The difference is that it ultimately doesn't care about individual life-forms - it is interested, like you would be of bacteria on your skin, but it doesn't particularly care about what happens to them.

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*** Simply put, the Universe and Everything that exists (yes, EVERYTHING) is a part of a greater cosmic being, known as Brahma .Brahman. Or put simply, the Universe is a GeniusLoci that is an EldritchAbomination. The difference is that it ultimately doesn't care about individual life-forms - it is interested, like you would be of bacteria on your skin, but it doesn't particularly care about what happens to them.
28th Mar '17 4:02:28 PM crashkey
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** His [[OurAngelsAreDifferent Archons]] are actually described as this, their real forms being mind-numbingly horrifying (and one of them is a [[LightIsNotGood solar deity]]). They also eat human souls and may be aspects of the Leontoeides/Ialdaboath (the snake lion thing mentioned previously).

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** His [[OurAngelsAreDifferent Archons]] are actually described as this, their real forms being mind-numbingly horrifying (and one of them is a [[LightIsNotGood solar deity]]). They also eat human souls and may be aspects of the Leontoeides/Ialdaboath the Demiurge (the snake lion thing mentioned previously).previously).
** Also, it's important to point out that the Demiurge was the Gnostic view of the god that everyone else was worshiping - you know, God as described extensively above? That's right, the Gnostics were basically the original reinterpreters of Abrahamic religions as cosmic horror, which is pretty impressive for the second century!
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