History EarlyInstallmentWeirdness / LiveActionTV

1st May '16 5:14:44 PM TVRulezAgain
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* ''{{Victorious}}'': Most characters are fairly different from how they were in the pilot. Trina started as "talented, but not enough to justify her ego" and became "untalented". Jade was significantly deepened, saving her from being The Libby. Robbie, while still not suave, became capable of normal conversation with the opposite sex. Rex's design is very different from the pilot, including paler skin, a thinner body and neck, paler complexion, and smaller eyes/mouth. Cat's hair is no longer curly as well. Probably the biggest changes include Beck and Tori no longer seeming to be romantically interested in each other, and Cat's [[{{Flanderization}} transformation]] from normal-but-ditsy in the first season (particularly the pilot) to full-on dumb in the later seasons.

to:

* ''{{Victorious}}'': ''Series/{{Victorious}}'': Most characters are fairly different from how they were in the pilot. Trina started as "talented, but not enough to justify her ego" and became "untalented". Jade was significantly deepened, saving her from being The Libby.an Alpha Bitch. Robbie, while still not suave, became capable of normal conversation with the opposite sex. Rex's design is very different from the pilot, including paler skin, a thinner body and neck, paler complexion, and smaller eyes/mouth. Cat's hair is no longer curly as well. Probably the biggest changes include Beck and Tori no longer seeming to be romantically interested in each other, and Cat's [[{{Flanderization}} transformation]] from normal-but-ditsy in the first season (particularly the pilot) to full-on dumb in the later seasons.
29th Apr '16 5:56:03 PM MyFinalEdits
Is there an issue? Send a Message


*** Danny being a slob in the third episode is actually somewhat justified as he was still grieving over the loss of his wife. Once he was able to start moving on, he got back into his old habits of cleaning obsessively.
29th Apr '16 4:43:58 PM dpisel01
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Danny being a slob in the third episode is actually somewhat justified as he was still grieving over the loss of his wife. Once he was able to start moving on, he got back into his old habits of cleaning obsessively.

to:

** *** Danny being a slob in the third episode is actually somewhat justified as he was still grieving over the loss of his wife. Once he was able to start moving on, he got back into his old habits of cleaning obsessively.
29th Apr '16 4:43:04 PM dpisel01
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** Danny being a slob in the third episode is actually somewhat justified as he was still grieving over the loss of his wife. Once he was able to start moving on, he got back into his old habits of cleaning obsessively.
29th Apr '16 4:32:40 PM dpisel01
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* At the start of ''Series/ThirtyRock'', Jack was a PointyHairedBoss (he's now an EccentricMentor) and Jenna was Liz's neurotic best friend (she's now an insane, [[SmallNameBigEgo egotistical]] AttentionWhore). Also, the show was more... well, not realistic exactly, but certainly less [[SurrealHumor surreal]] than it is now.

to:

* At the start of ''Series/ThirtyRock'', Jack was a PointyHairedBoss (he's now an EccentricMentor) and Jenna was Liz's neurotic best friend (she's now an insane, [[SmallNameBigEgo egotistical]] AttentionWhore). Liz was also much more serious with only some traces of goofiness, and she and Jack started off having a fairly antagonistic relationship. In addition, Tracey initially had some facial hair and his entourage had several members, though most of them soon disappeared except for Grizz and Dotcom. Also, the show was more... well, not realistic exactly, but certainly less [[SurrealHumor surreal]] than it is now.



** Speaking of Urkel, he didn't appear on the show until about halfway through season 1, and was not originally intended to make too many appearances, but this changed due to his immediate and immense popularity. He even became a main character the very next season and soon became the show's breakout character. Nowadays it's hard for anyone to imagine that there was ever a period on the show before Urkel.



* ''Series/TheOfficeUS'' with its chubby, balding Michael Scott, random background deskworkers, and very straitlaced, plainly-dressed Kelly Kapoor in its short first season. The first season is also more cynical, keeping in tone with the UK version, right down to Michael Scott being more of a self-absorbed, intolerable boss a la David Brent instead of the well-intentioned bumbling boss he came to be. The series began to shape its own identity in Season 2.

to:

* ''Series/TheOfficeUS'' with its chubby, balding Michael Scott, random background deskworkers, and very straitlaced, plainly-dressed Kelly Kapoor (instead of the pop culture-obsessed WomanChild she's better known as) in its short first season. The first season is also more cynical, keeping in tone with the UK version, right down to Michael Scott being more of a self-absorbed, intolerable boss a la David Brent instead of the well-intentioned bumbling boss he came to be. The series began to shape its own identity in Season 2.


Added DiffLines:

** Andy was not introduced until season 3, and he quickly became a major secondary character, so it can sometimes feel odd to rewatch the first two seasons and not see him.
29th Apr '16 4:00:26 PM HowlingSnail
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS5E7TheWheelInSpace The Wheel in Space]], the Doctor offers Jamie a lemon sherbet!
22nd Apr '16 10:00:16 AM LaszloZapacik
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* Early episodes of ''Series/{{TheTudors}}'' can appear very surprising to viewers only familiar with the later episodes due to the surprising lack of deference shown to Henry VIII by several of his courtiers. Several characters address him simply as "Henry" rather than "Your Majesty" (in later series, only the Duke of Suffolk ever does, and even in his case rarely), and close advisors explicitly telling Henry he is wrong is far more common. Indeed, in the second episode Thomas More actually ''physically manhandles'' Henry and not-so-subtly ''orders'' him to keep quiet. Justified in that Henry's authority grew with his reign's longevity and his growing experience of ruling.
21st Apr '16 6:09:47 PM nombretomado
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* The pilot of ''FatherTed'' is the episode in which Jack "dies" (the 6th episode broadcast) and there are notable differences -- the parochial house is different, Ted quotes Creator/JamesJoyce, and at the end they plot Father Jack's death.

to:

* The pilot of ''FatherTed'' ''Series/FatherTed'' is the episode in which Jack "dies" (the 6th episode broadcast) and there are notable differences -- the parochial house is different, Ted quotes Creator/JamesJoyce, and at the end they plot Father Jack's death.
19th Apr '16 12:14:06 PM CaptainCrawdad
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* ''Series/FullHouse'': The third episode depicted Danny as a bit of a slob who was reluctant to clean up his house, preferring to hire a maid to do so. This is the same Danny Tanner who, a few seasons later, is known for [[NeatFreak cleaning his cleaning supplies]]. The same episode also had appearances from the mothers of all three of the men--Danny and Jesse's moms would get [[TheOtherDarrin Darrin'd]] later on (looking nothing like the original actresses), while Joey's mother never appeared again at all.

to:

* ''Series/FullHouse'': ''Series/FullHouse'':
**
The third episode depicted Danny as a bit of a slob who was reluctant to clean up his house, preferring to hire a maid to do so. This is the same Danny Tanner who, a few seasons later, is known for [[NeatFreak cleaning his cleaning supplies]]. The same episode also had appearances from the mothers of all three of the men--Danny and Jesse's moms would get [[TheOtherDarrin Darrin'd]] later on (looking nothing like the original actresses), while Joey's mother never appeared again at all.



* The first few seasons of the British ''Series/WhoseLineIsItAnyway'' have a much different feeling from later ones. This is mostly because barrister Clive Anderson is getting used to his role, and later show staples Colin Mochrie and Ryan Stiles do not make consistent appearances while [[TheScrappy John Sessions]] appears in almost every first and second season episode. The show hits its stride by season four or five.
** The first season of the American version did not have Wayne Brady as one of the permanent cast members alongside Ryan and Colin. It can be jarring watching one of the early episodes and not seeing Wayne at all.
*** The first American season also features a darker lighting scheme, which looks a bit odd compared to the later seasons. Also, Drew, like Clive on the UK version, had not yet completely warmed up in his role as the host, and there wasn't as much banter between him and the performers between games.
* In early ''MyNameIsEarl'' the Camden police dept. are actually a competent, normal, small time police force. Later on in the series it becomes one fat guy on a bike, and his sister. Also Crab-man is just a generic, if slightly brighter, trailer park-type resident, later on he will become a a quirky-genius ex-spy who is in witness protection.
** The most notable example of early installment weirdness is the character of Earl's ex-wife Joy. In the early episodes, Joy is out-and-out hostile towards Earl, and even schemes to kill him for his lottery money. However, Joy and Earl's relationship quickly normalizes; at one point in the series, Earl even voluntarily goes to jail for an offense Joy commits just to spare Joy a "third strike" conviction. By the end of the series, they are AmicableExes.

to:

* ''Series/WhoseLineIsItAnyway''
**
The first few seasons of the British ''Series/WhoseLineIsItAnyway'' have Britishhave a much different feeling from later ones. This is mostly because barrister Clive Anderson is getting used to his role, and later show staples Colin Mochrie and Ryan Stiles do not make consistent appearances while [[TheScrappy John Sessions]] Sessions appears in almost every first and second season episode. The show hits its stride by season four or five.
** The first season of the American version did not have Wayne Brady as one of the permanent cast members alongside Ryan and Colin. It can be jarring watching one of the early episodes and not seeing Wayne at all.
***
all. The first American season also features a darker lighting scheme, which looks a bit odd compared to the later seasons. Also, Drew, like Clive on the UK version, had not yet completely warmed up in his role as the host, and there wasn't as much banter between him and the performers between games.
* ''Series/MyNameIsEarl''
**
In early ''MyNameIsEarl'' seasons, the Camden police dept. are actually a competent, normal, small time police force. Later on in the series it becomes one fat guy on a bike, and his sister. Also Crab-man is just a generic, if slightly brighter, trailer park-type resident, later on he will become a a quirky-genius ex-spy who is in witness protection.
** The most notable example of early installment weirdness is the character of Earl's ex-wife Joy. In the early episodes, Joy is out-and-out hostile towards Earl, and even schemes to kill him for his lottery money. However, Joy and Earl's relationship quickly normalizes; at one point in the series, Earl even voluntarily goes to jail for an offense Joy commits just to spare Joy a "third strike" conviction. By the end of the series, they are AmicableExes.



* This happens fairly frequently in ''That70sShow''. In the early episodes, Hyde has a crush on Donna. This only lasts a little while before that subplot was thrown out, although, unlike many of the other examples on this page, it wasn't entirely [[ContinuityNod forgotten]].

to:

* This happens fairly frequently in ''That70sShow''. ''That70sShow'':
**
In the early episodes, Hyde has a crush on Donna. This only lasts a little while before that subplot was thrown out, although, unlike many of the other examples on this page, it wasn't entirely [[ContinuityNod forgotten]].



* The early episodes of ''Series/MalcolmInTheMiddle'' have Hal and Lois being very comfortable with nudity (with Hal being shaved during breakfast [[HandOrObjectUnderwear with only a newspaper covering him]] and Lois answering the front door topless and Lois's nonchalant attitude about her breasts). Later on, however, they forbid nudity the way most parents would.

to:

* ''Series/MalcolmInTheMiddle''
**
The early episodes of ''Series/MalcolmInTheMiddle'' have Hal and Lois being very comfortable with nudity (with Hal being shaved during breakfast [[HandOrObjectUnderwear with only a newspaper covering him]] and Lois answering the front door topless and Lois's nonchalant attitude about her breasts). Later on, however, they forbid nudity the way most parents would.



*** The family goes from decidedly middle class to very poor, laughing at the idea of savings and coming close to losing their house more than once.
* ''Series/{{MASH}}'' originally started as a lighthearted "wacky" comedy set in a war hospital, very much in the vein of [[{{Film/MASH}} the movie]] it was based on. After a few years, the laughs became balanced with hard-hitting looks at the horrors of war, then thrown off-balance when Alan Alda began directing episodes.

to:

*** ** The family goes from decidedly middle class to very poor, laughing at the idea of savings and coming close to losing their house more than once.
* ''Series/{{MASH}}'' ''Series/{{MASH}}''
** The show
originally started as a lighthearted "wacky" comedy set in a war hospital, very much in the vein of [[{{Film/MASH}} the movie]] it was based on. After a few years, the laughs became balanced with hard-hitting looks at the horrors of war, then thrown off-balance when Alan Alda began directing episodes.



* The first season of ''Series/{{Friends}}'' feels quite a bit different from the other nine seasons. The plots are more slow-paced and episodic, scenes start and end abruptly, and the characters are less quippy and there's quite a bit of a SentimentalMusicCue. The fashions look a bit more plastic/artificial than they would in the next nine seasons, and it's probably the only season where Matthew Perry has long (or, at least, long-ish) hair.

to:

* ''Series/{{Friends}}''
**
The first season of ''Series/{{Friends}}'' feels quite a bit different from the other nine seasons. The plots are more slow-paced and episodic, scenes start and end abruptly, and the characters are less quippy and there's quite a bit of a SentimentalMusicCue. The fashions look a bit more plastic/artificial than they would in the next nine seasons, and it's probably the only season where Matthew Perry has long (or, at least, long-ish) hair.



** As a result of the planned Joey/Monica relationship, both their characterizations were subtly different: Joey was more jerkish and a HandsomeLech, while Monica was a lot more sexual. They settled into their normal characters pretty fast though.
*** This change was partly due to Matt Leblanc and Courteney Cox's take on the characters. The writers admitted Matt gave Joey heart and Courteney softened Monica a lot and made her more of the TeamMom. (These changes meant she was better matched with the adorably awkward [[{{HollywoodDateless}} Chandler]] than with the confident [[{{TheCasanova}} Joey]]).
** Easy to miss, but--in the first season, there was no street outside the Central Perk set, only a painted backdrop in the window.

to:

** As a result of the planned Joey/Monica relationship, both their characterizations were subtly different: Joey was more jerkish and a HandsomeLech, while Monica was a lot more sexual. They settled into their normal characters pretty fast though.
***
though. This change was partly due to Matt Leblanc and Courteney Cox's take on the characters. The writers admitted Matt gave Joey heart and Courteney softened Monica a lot and made her more of the TeamMom. (These changes meant she was better matched with the adorably awkward [[{{HollywoodDateless}} Chandler]] than with the confident [[{{TheCasanova}} Joey]]).
** Easy to miss, but--in In the first season, there was no street outside the Central Perk set, only a painted backdrop in the window.



** Perhaps related to the plastic-looking fashions: the show was a lot more blatant about its [[BigApplesauce NYC setting]] in the first season. Most of the side characters talked in thick, stereotypical New York accents and were often portrayed as snide [[{{Jerkass}} jerkasses]]. The stereotypical [=NYC=] sensibility was much more muted from season two onward.

to:

** Perhaps related to the plastic-looking fashions: the The show was a lot more blatant about its [[BigApplesauce NYC setting]] in the first season. Most of the side characters talked in thick, stereotypical New York accents and were often portrayed as snide [[{{Jerkass}} jerkasses]]. The stereotypical [=NYC=] sensibility was much more muted from season two onward.



** It's also odd to see Sean Gunn playing two characters who were, although very similar to Kirk, separate characters. {{Fanon}} likes to think they're all Kirk, anyways. In an early episode, it also sounds like Kirk is new to Stars Hollow as he doesn't seem to know Miss Patty. Later episodes would establish that he's lived in Stars Hollow all his life and everyone in town knows him.
*** Kirk even references installing DSL in one episode, the job Sean Gunn was performing as "Mick."

to:

** It's also odd to see Sean Gunn playing two characters who were, although very similar to Kirk, separate characters. {{Fanon}} likes to think they're all Kirk, anyways. In an early episode, it also sounds like Kirk is new to Stars Hollow as he doesn't seem to know Miss Patty. Later episodes would establish that he's lived in Stars Hollow all his life and everyone in town knows him.
***
him. Kirk even references installing DSL in one episode, the job Sean Gunn was performing as "Mick."



* In the pilot episode of ''Series/BurnNotice'' Michael's mother Madeline is a hypochondriac, and Michael mentions sending money to her regularly to help pay for all the examinations and treatments for medical problems which are not there. This character trait was never mentioned again besides a single reference in season 2. We occasionally see a table in her house littered with pill bottles, but the trait itself doesn't really play a further part in the series.

to:

* * ''Series/BurnNotice''
**
In the pilot episode of ''Series/BurnNotice'' episode, Michael's mother Madeline is a hypochondriac, and Michael mentions sending money to her regularly to help pay for all the examinations and treatments for medical problems which are not there. This character trait was never mentioned again besides a single reference in season 2. We occasionally see a table in her house littered with pill bottles, but the trait itself doesn't really play a further part in the series.



* ''Series/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace'' has a very different feel in season one. It is very episodic and feels more like a typical light hearted KidCom than the darker arc based show it would become. Alex is more nice and more of a typical teenaged girl, and while lazy and not interested in learning, is a pretty far cry from the anarchist she would become. Justin only uses magic when necessary whereas later on he's full out MadScientist. Professor Crumb's school isn't around and it seems as if Jerry (and other Wizard parents) are solely responsible for assesing their kids' progress and policing their kid's actions. The Sub Station is more populated and seems as if it is actually somewhat successful (a running gag in later seasons is how it's always empty). Spells are longer and rhyme whereas they would eventually require only one or two words. Also Zeke is stated to be older than Justin whereas they seem to be the same age later on and it's implied Justin is more than only a year older than Alex.

to:

* ''Series/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace'' ''Series/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace''
** The show
has a very different feel in season one. It is very episodic and feels more like a typical light hearted KidCom than the darker arc based show it would become. Alex is more nice and more of a typical teenaged girl, and while lazy and not interested in learning, is a pretty far cry from the anarchist she would become. Justin only uses magic when necessary whereas later on he's full out MadScientist. Professor Crumb's school isn't around and it seems as if Jerry (and other Wizard parents) are solely responsible for assesing their kids' progress and policing their kid's actions. The Sub Station is more populated and seems as if it is actually somewhat successful (a running gag in later seasons is how it's always empty). Spells are longer and rhyme whereas they would eventually require only one or two words. Also Zeke is stated to be older than Justin whereas they seem to be the same age later on and it's implied Justin is more than only a year older than Alex.



* Early episodes of ''Franchise/KamenRider'' were more sci-fi horror than the conventional toku we know today. The famous Rider Kick hadn't even been established yet, and thus Hongo would defeat his enemies with really anything, including a "Rider Throw". (That is, ''tossing your opponent off of a roof to go 'splat.''')

to:

* ''Franchise/KamenRider''
**
Early episodes of ''Franchise/KamenRider'' were are more sci-fi horror than the conventional toku we know today. The famous Rider Kick hadn't even been established yet, and thus Hongo would defeat his enemies with really anything, including a "Rider Throw". (That is, ''tossing your opponent off of a roof to go 'splat.''')
19th Apr '16 12:02:51 PM CaptainCrawdad
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* The first season of ''Series/TheSopranos'' is a mild example, playing somewhat more like a lampoon of the gangster genre. It emphasizes the zaniness of Tony's two lives as a family man and a "Family" man. His wife gets this treatment as well. In one scene she expertly cocks and loads an AK-47 when she thinks there's an intruder. The supporting gangsters are also constantly quoting famous mob movies, showing that modern mob culture is partially based on imitating fiction. This all gets seemingly ignored for long periods during the show's run to a much more straightforward drama, though nearly all these elements ''are'' referred to again well past the first season.

to:

* The first season of ''Series/TheSopranos'' is a mild example, playing somewhat more like a lampoon of the gangster genre. It emphasizes the zaniness of Tony's two lives as a family man and a "Family" man. His wife gets this treatment as well. In one scene she expertly cocks and loads an AK-47 when she thinks there's an intruder. In following seasons she's just a typical housewife. The supporting gangsters are also constantly quoting famous mob movies, showing that modern mob culture is partially based on imitating fiction. This all gets seemingly ignored for long periods during is de-emphasized in the show's run to a much more straightforward drama, rest of the show, though nearly all these elements ''are'' referred to again well past the first season.never completely goes away.
This list shows the last 10 events of 636. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=EarlyInstallmentWeirdness.LiveActionTV