History EarlyInstallmentWeirdness / ComicBooks

27th Aug '16 4:29:58 PM Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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* In terms of comic book creators, some of their work was much different early in their careers. Creator/BillSienkiewicz's artwork was very similar to Creator/NealAdams' before he took on a more expressionistic style. Creator/BryanHitch's art was closer to Creator/AlanDavis' before becoming more distinctly his own. Creator/AlanMoore started off as both a writer "and" an artist.
11th Aug '16 3:21:01 PM KamenRiderOokalf
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** This also extends to its video game tie-ins. Prior to the CosmicReboot, video game events were done in BroadStrokes; for instance, ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog3'' was translated in issue #13 as Robotnik and Snively stranded on the Floating Island, stealing its singular Chaos Emerald without the Death Egg showing up at all (it wouldn't show up for another two years). After the CosmicReboot, WordOfGod states that ''all'' video games, with the exceptions of ''VideoGame/SonicUnleashed'' (which is its current storyline), ''VideoGame/SonicLostWorld'' and ''VideoGame/SonicChroniclesTheDarkBrotherhood'' are canon and happened the way they did in the games.

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** This also extends to its video game tie-ins. Prior to the CosmicReboot, ContinuityReboot, video game events were done in BroadStrokes; for instance, ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog3'' was translated in issue #13 as Robotnik and Snively stranded on the Floating Island, stealing its singular Chaos Emerald without the Death Egg showing up at all (it wouldn't show up for another two years). After the CosmicReboot, ContinuityReboot, WordOfGod states that ''all'' video games, with the exceptions of ''VideoGame/SonicUnleashed'' (which is its current storyline), ''VideoGame/SonicLostWorld'' and ''VideoGame/SonicChroniclesTheDarkBrotherhood'' ''VideoGame/SonicChronicles'' are canon and happened the way they did in the games.
8th Aug '16 8:25:54 PM comicwriter
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* Before he was {{Wolverine}}'s ArchNemesis and one of the X-Men's most iconic baddies, Sabretooth started off as an [[ImmortalIronFist Iron Fist]] villain, and not a particularly memorable one at that. He was partnered with Constricter, there were no hints at his mysterious backstory or connection to Wolverine, and he didn't have a healing factor either. He was also much less of a threat, getting his ass handed to him by characters like Black Cat. It wasn't until the 1986 "Mutant Massacre" crossover (Sabretooth was introduced in 1977) that he began to become the villain we know today. It was the first story to have him fight Wolverine on panel, as well as the first one to reference their mysterious shared past. He was also played up as a much more powerful and intimidating character than he'd been previously, and was finally confirmed to possess a healing factor like Logan's. Those early issues are so jarring by comparison that ChrisClaremont actually considered {{Retcon}}ning all of Sabretooth's early appearances into [[ActuallyADoombot clones created by Nathaniel Essex]].

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* Before he was {{Wolverine}}'s ArchNemesis and one of the X-Men's most iconic baddies, Sabretooth Comicbook/{{Sabretooth}} started off as an [[ImmortalIronFist Iron Fist]] villain, and not a particularly memorable one at that. He was partnered with Constricter, there were no hints at his mysterious backstory or connection to Wolverine, and he didn't have a healing factor either. He was also much less of a threat, getting his ass handed to him by characters like Black Cat. It wasn't until the 1986 "Mutant Massacre" crossover (Sabretooth was introduced in 1977) that he began to become the villain we know today. It was the first story to have him fight Wolverine on panel, as well as the first one to reference their mysterious shared past. He was also played up as a much more powerful and intimidating character than he'd been previously, and was finally confirmed to possess a healing factor like Logan's. Those early issues are so jarring by comparison that ChrisClaremont actually considered {{Retcon}}ning all of Sabretooth's early appearances into [[ActuallyADoombot clones created by Nathaniel Essex]].
7th Aug '16 10:12:04 AM nombretomado
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* While Creator/NeilGaiman's ''Comicbook/TheSandman'' has always taken place in the [[TheDCU DC Universe]], early issues were much less shy about depicting the title character interacting with other DC characters. Hell, the first story arc features Dr. Destiny as the BigBad, as well as [[ComicBook/{{Hellblazer}} John Constantine]], [[ComicBook/NewGods Mr. Miracle]], ComicBook/MartianManhunter, ComicBook/{{Etrigan}}, and [[Franchise/{{Batman}} the Scarecrow]] in supporting roles and/or cameos. For the bulk of the series, the Endless and associated characters more or less exist in their own continuity.

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* While Creator/NeilGaiman's ''Comicbook/TheSandman'' has always taken place in the [[TheDCU DC Universe]], Franchise/DCUniverse, early issues were much less shy about depicting the title character interacting with other DC characters. Hell, the first story arc features Dr. Destiny as the BigBad, as well as [[ComicBook/{{Hellblazer}} John Constantine]], [[ComicBook/NewGods Mr. Miracle]], ComicBook/MartianManhunter, ComicBook/{{Etrigan}}, and [[Franchise/{{Batman}} the Scarecrow]] in supporting roles and/or cameos. For the bulk of the series, the Endless and associated characters more or less exist in their own continuity.
31st Jul '16 8:40:23 PM FF32
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* Straightforward supervillains appeared to exist in early issues of ''ComicBook/TheBoys'', with A-Train being introduced combating an unnamed one that also possessed super speed, Homelander making reference to the Seven once having a SuperheroTrophyShelf, and it being mentioned that Teenage Kix had sent the "Fearsome Foursome" back to Rikers Island. None are seen or mentioned later on, with the only superhumans seeming to exist being the "heroes" of Vought-American.
25th Jul '16 2:46:07 PM Anddrix
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*** SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker originally had NoSenseOfHumor. His Silver Age self was closer to his typical depiction but was simply an [[AffablyEvil affable]], [[LaughablyEvil legitimately funny]] thief who liked to make people laugh and viewed Batman as a WorthyOpponent; a far-cry from the creepy, murderous psychopath he would become famous as. He would even sometimes team-up with the heroes to take down worse villains, such as a memorable issue where circumstances forced him and Superman to work together in order to save Perry White. His clown-like complexion also used to be actual makeup, which he removed to pose as a cop (a scene that was referenced in ''Film/TheDarkKnight''). Later issues would reveal that his complexion was a deformity from falling into a vat of chemicals.

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*** SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker ComicBook/TheJoker originally had NoSenseOfHumor. His Silver Age self was closer to his typical depiction but was simply an [[AffablyEvil affable]], [[LaughablyEvil legitimately funny]] thief who liked to make people laugh and viewed Batman as a WorthyOpponent; a far-cry from the creepy, murderous psychopath he would become famous as. He would even sometimes team-up with the heroes to take down worse villains, such as a memorable issue where circumstances forced him and Superman to work together in order to save Perry White. His clown-like complexion also used to be actual makeup, which he removed to pose as a cop (a scene that was referenced in ''Film/TheDarkKnight''). Later issues would reveal that his complexion was a deformity from falling into a vat of chemicals.



* HealingFactor characters ComicBook/{{Wolverine}}, Sabretooth and SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} are depicted as sustaining injuries over a length of time in early appearances, compared to later appearances where healing appears near instant. Sabretooth's face was injured in ''The Spectacular Spider-Man vol. 1 #116'' and still scarred by his next appearance in #119. In an ''ComicBook/XForce'' appearance, Deadpool complains his broken jaw left him hospitalized for a few weeks. One can assume characters had weaker healing factors in the past, but newer stories set in the past still depict a near instant healing factor.

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* HealingFactor characters ComicBook/{{Wolverine}}, Sabretooth and SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} ComicBook/{{Deadpool}} are depicted as sustaining injuries over a length of time in early appearances, compared to later appearances where healing appears near instant. Sabretooth's face was injured in ''The Spectacular Spider-Man vol. 1 #116'' and still scarred by his next appearance in #119. In an ''ComicBook/XForce'' appearance, Deadpool complains his broken jaw left him hospitalized for a few weeks. One can assume characters had weaker healing factors in the past, but newer stories set in the past still depict a near instant healing factor.
25th Jul '16 2:40:58 PM Animeking1108
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*** SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker originally had NoSenseOfHumor. His Silver Age self was closer to his typical depiction but was simply an [[AffablyEvil affable]], [[LaughablyEvil legitimately funny]] thief who liked to make people laugh and viewed Batman as a WorthyOpponent; a far-cry from the creepy, murderous psychopath he would become famous as. He would even sometimes team-up with the heroes to take down worse villains, such as a memorable issue where circumstances forced him and Superman to work together in order to save Perry White.

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*** SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker originally had NoSenseOfHumor. His Silver Age self was closer to his typical depiction but was simply an [[AffablyEvil affable]], [[LaughablyEvil legitimately funny]] thief who liked to make people laugh and viewed Batman as a WorthyOpponent; a far-cry from the creepy, murderous psychopath he would become famous as. He would even sometimes team-up with the heroes to take down worse villains, such as a memorable issue where circumstances forced him and Superman to work together in order to save Perry White. His clown-like complexion also used to be actual makeup, which he removed to pose as a cop (a scene that was referenced in ''Film/TheDarkKnight''). Later issues would reveal that his complexion was a deformity from falling into a vat of chemicals.
11th Jul '16 6:51:54 AM Ribos1978
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* ComicBook/{{Deadshot}} made his first appearance as villain in a 1950 Batman story wearing an unrecognisable suit and having none of his later attributes. It wasn't until Dennis O Neil's run on ''Detective Comics'' that he was given his design and personality that would make him the face of the ComicBook/SuicideSquad.

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* ComicBook/{{Deadshot}} made his first appearance as villain in a 1950 Batman story wearing an unrecognisable suit and having none of his later attributes. It wasn't until Dennis O Neil's Steve Englehart's run on ''Detective Comics'' that he was given his design and personality that would make him the face of the ComicBook/SuicideSquad.
8th Jul '16 6:18:15 PM BattleMaster
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* In IDW's first Transformers comic, ''Transformers: Infiltration'', Ratchet is depicted as young and inexperienced to the point that Earth seems to be his first deployment. By Transformers: More Than Meets The Eye, his characterization had shifted to being an elderly curmudgeon who'd been around forever and seen nearly as much as Kup, matching his depictions in''WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated'' and ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime''.
7th Jul '16 5:58:06 PM comicwriter
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** Doctor Doom acquired the ability to switch minds with whomever he had eye contact with. This is an ability that he occasionally uses even in the newer comics, but it was an odd concept for the time. A later RetCon stated that only his infamous vanity keeps him from using the ability more often.

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** Doctor Doom DoctorDoom acquired the ability to switch minds with whomever he had eye contact with. This is an ability that he occasionally uses even in the newer comics, but it was an odd concept for the time. A later RetCon stated that only his infamous vanity keeps him from using the ability more often.
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