History EarlyInstallmentWeirdness / ComicBooks

10th Aug '17 1:52:26 PM MorganWick
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* Before he was ComicBook/{{Wolverine}}'s ArchNemesis and one of the X-Men's most iconic baddies, Comicbook/{{Sabretooth}} started off as an [[ComicBook/ImmortalIronFist Iron Fist]] villain. He was partnered with Constrictor in his second appearance (in which he was already much less efficient than in his first one), there were no hints at his mysterious backstory or connection to Wolverine, and he didn't have a healing factor either. He was also much less of a threat when he wasn't written by Creator/ChrisClaremont, getting his ass handed to him by characters like Comicbook/BlackCat. It wasn't until the 1986 "Mutant Massacre" crossover (Sabretooth was introduced in 1977) that he began to become the villain we know today. It was the first story to have him fight Wolverine on panel, as well as the first one to reference their mysterious shared past. He was also played up as a much more powerful and intimidating character than he'd been previously, and was finally confirmed to possess a healing factor like Logan's. A possible explanation for the differences in portrayal is that Chris Claremont actually had plans to reveal that all of Sabretooth's early appearances (except for the very first one) were actually [[ActuallyADoombot clones created by Nathaniel Essex]].

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* Before he was ComicBook/{{Wolverine}}'s ArchNemesis and one of the X-Men's most iconic baddies, Comicbook/{{Sabretooth}} started off as an [[ComicBook/ImmortalIronFist Iron Fist]] villain. He was partnered with Constrictor in his second appearance (in which he was already much less efficient than in his first one), there were no hints at his mysterious backstory or connection to Wolverine, and he didn't have a healing factor either. He was also much less of a threat when he wasn't written by Creator/ChrisClaremont, getting his ass handed to him by characters like Comicbook/BlackCat. It wasn't until the 1986 "Mutant Massacre" crossover (Sabretooth was introduced in 1977) that he began to become the villain we know today. It was the first story to have him fight Wolverine on panel, as well as the first one to reference their mysterious shared past. He was also played up as a much more powerful and intimidating character than he'd been previously, and was finally confirmed to possess a healing factor like Logan's. A possible explanation for the differences in portrayal is that Chris Claremont actually had plans to reveal that all of Sabretooth's early appearances (except for the very first one) were actually [[ActuallyADoombot clones created by Nathaniel Essex]]. [[ArmedWithCanon This would have, coinkydink of coinkydinks, left the only appearances of the "real" Sabretooth to be the ones Claremont wrote.]]
23rd Jul '17 1:01:59 PM FuzzyBarbarian
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* In his first appearance, obscure Golden Age hero ComicBook/TheSteelFist only had a cowl on his head. He got a Domino Mask added immediately afterwards.

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* In his first appearance, obscure Golden Age hero ComicBook/TheSteelFist only had a cowl on his head. He got a Domino Mask added immediately afterwards.afterwards.
* When ''ComicBook/KingdomCome'' was released, Iris West II, the daughter of Wally West (the third Flash) was identified as being the fourth Flash in the script and concept art of the series, despite having a costume more in line with a Kid Flash (though she seemingly ''was'' an adult). Her follow-up appearances in the brief arc in ''Titans'' and ''The Kingdom'' instead identified her as ''Kid'' Flash. In fact, ''The Kingdom'' makes it a character point that Iris ''desparately'' wants to get her father's blessing to be the Flash.
10th Jul '17 3:21:38 PM BeastC
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** The Green Goblin in the original stories was a mysterious, dangerous and entertaining villain whose schemes involved taking over the underworld of New York for some reason or the other. His first appearance was a wacky adventure where he posed as Spider-Man's friend and convinced him to appear in a movie production which turned out to be a trap to kill him. He appeared in fewer issues than other villains but was easily Spider-Man's most popular villain. Much controversy has spread over the years if Ditko intended Comicbook/NormanOsborn to be the Green Goblin, since Ditko left on the issue directly before TheReveal, though Ditko insisted that wasn't the reason for his departure. But more or less, the original version of Goblin was a Joker-esque madman who launched zany schemes without any of the deeper and byzantine motives and schemes that later writers would provide him.

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** The Green Goblin in the original stories was a mysterious, dangerous and entertaining villain whose schemes involved taking over the underworld of New York for some reason or the other. His first appearance was a wacky adventure where he posed as Spider-Man's friend and convinced him to appear in a movie production which turned out to be a trap to kill him. He appeared in fewer issues than other villains but was easily Spider-Man's most popular villain. Much controversy has spread over the years if Ditko intended Comicbook/NormanOsborn to be the Green Goblin, since Ditko left on the issue directly before TheReveal, though Ditko insisted that wasn't the reason for his departure.departure[[note]]Ditko [[AuthorsSavingThrow later attempted to put an end to the issue]] by pointing out various points in his run where he [[EarlyBirdCameo inserted]] Norman Osborn [[MeaningfulBackgroundEvent in the background]] so as to [[{{Foreshadowing}} foreshadow]] TheReveal[[/note]]. But more or less, the original version of Goblin was a Joker-esque madman who launched zany schemes without any of the deeper and byzantine motives and schemes that later writers would provide him.
25th Jun '17 1:33:41 PM comicwriter
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* The Infinity Gems were originally called the Soul Gems when they first appeared.

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* The Infinity Gems were originally called the Soul Gems when they first appeared. They also weren't ''nearly'' as powerful, and were only used to power a weapon Thanos had built to destroy all the stars in the universe. The idea that a person with all six Infinity Gems essentially ''became God'' wasn't established until ''Comicbook/TheInfinityGauntlet''.
18th Jun '17 2:05:09 AM DemonDuckofDoom
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* In his first appearance, obscure Golden Age Western hero ComicBook/{{Gunsmoke}} is summoned by Pedro via smoke signals. This element never appears again.

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* In his first appearance, obscure Golden Age Western hero ComicBook/{{Gunsmoke}} is summoned by Pedro via smoke signals. This element never appears again.again.
* In his first appearance, obscure Golden Age hero ComicBook/TheSteelFist only had a cowl on his head. He got a Domino Mask added immediately afterwards.
13th Jun '17 10:47:47 AM comicwriter
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** Wakanda had a much more tribal and less developed look in the early stories, with a lot of people still living in huts and wearing loincloths. There were also no Dora Milaje, with the group itself not appearing until the 90's.

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** Wakanda had a much more tribal and less developed look in the early stories, with a lot of people still living in huts and wearing loincloths. It was also stated that T'Challa was responsible for most of the country's modernization, in contrast to later depictions, where it is made clear Wakanda has been incredibly advanced for a great many years. There were also no Dora Milaje, with the group itself not appearing until the 90's.
11th Jun '17 2:12:12 PM CombativeBoil
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*** Clark Kent and Lois Lane didn't originally work for the Daily Planet in the fictional Metropolis. Instead, they worked for the Evening News in Cleveland, Ohio.

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*** Clark Kent and Lois Lane didn't originally work for the Daily Planet in the fictional Metropolis. Instead, they worked for fora newspaper company who's exact name was often ambiguous, at one point even being the Evening News in Cleveland, Ohio.
2nd Jun '17 11:43:02 PM DemonDuckofDoom
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* In ''Comicbook/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'', Groot was actually a ''villain'' in his first appearance, and spoke in complete sentences instead of PokemonSpeak.

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* In ''Comicbook/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'', Groot was actually a ''villain'' in his first appearance, and spoke in complete sentences instead of PokemonSpeak.PokemonSpeak.
* In his first appearance, obscure Golden Age Western hero ComicBook/{{Gunsmoke}} is summoned by Pedro via smoke signals. This element never appears again.
30th May '17 12:08:55 PM CombativeBoil
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*** Superman wasn't always the well meaning hero he's known as today. In fact, he caused more harm than good in his earlier comics, [[http://www.cracked.com/article_20069_5-classic-superman-comics-that-prove-he-used-to-be-dick.html and was actually kind of nuts]]. Examples include deliberately trapping a party of rich people in a mine to demonstrate the mine's safety problems, and drugging a football player and taking his place on the team, so that an opposing coach, who is guilty of cheating, won't win. He also once tackled teenage delinquency by demolishing their slummy neighborhood, making sure that the residents had evacuated with their possessions, upon learning that the government would be obligated to rebuild the neighborhood.

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*** Superman wasn't always the well meaning lawful, pacifist hero he's he is known as today. In fact, he arguably caused more harm than good in his earlier comics, [[http://www.cracked.com/article_20069_5-classic-superman-comics-that-prove-he-used-to-be-dick.html and since he was actually kind of nuts]]. Examples include deliberately trapping a party of rich people in a mine to demonstrate the mine's safety problems, and drugging a football player and taking his place on the team, so that an opposing coach, who is guilty of cheating, won't win. He also once tackled teenage delinquency by demolishing their slummy neighborhood, making sure that the residents had evacuated with their possessions, upon learning that the government would be obligated to rebuild the neighborhood.
30th May '17 10:40:06 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* [[Comicbook/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy Groot]] was actually a ''villain'' in his first appearance, and spoke in complete sentences instead of PokemonSpeak.

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* [[Comicbook/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy Groot]] In ''Comicbook/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'', Groot was actually a ''villain'' in his first appearance, and spoke in complete sentences instead of PokemonSpeak.
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