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16th Mar '18 6:24:06 AM Koveras
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* Crag Hack of ''VideoGame/HeroesOfMightAndMagic'' (New World Computing verse only, the Ashan incarnation was quite a clever man in his appearances) may be a barbarian, but as his fellow barbarian Yog notes, most barbarians aren't ''quite'' so dumb as Crag Hack -- this is a man who, despite ''decades'' of experience as a mercenary across (''at least'') two continents, not all of it in combat, ''still'' hasn't picked up that 'Mister' is a title, not a name.

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* Crag Hack of ''VideoGame/HeroesOfMightAndMagic'' (New World Computing (Creator/NewWorldComputing verse only, the Ashan incarnation was quite a clever man in his appearances) may be a barbarian, but as his fellow barbarian Yog notes, most barbarians aren't ''quite'' so dumb as Crag Hack -- this is a man who, despite ''decades'' of experience as a mercenary across (''at least'') two continents, not all of it in combat, ''still'' hasn't picked up that 'Mister' is a title, not a name.
28th Oct '17 8:35:46 AM FlashRebel
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* ''GuildWars2'' has an entire race of these with the Ettin, bulky two-headed ogres with apparently half a brain in each head. Most are agressive monsters who know no other combat tactic than bludgeoning things to death and stomping the ground really hard, a few of them are peaceful NPCs who cannot understand any word longer than three syllables.
22nd Oct '17 8:06:41 AM Sark0TAG
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* The Imperial assassin droids in ''VideoGame/StarWarsDroidworks'' play this to an extent. Lacking droid brains, they don't have much tactical advantage, and sport weapons so short-ranged that [[LongRangeShortRangeWeapon they have to be in contact with the target]]. But that doesn't stop them from spouting all sorts of nightmarish [[IShallTauntYou taunts]] at you, [[spoiler: and one of them shows enough skill to have sabotaged a nuclear reactor on its own.]]

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* The Imperial assassin droids in ''VideoGame/StarWarsDroidworks'' play this to an extent. Lacking droid brains, they don't have much tactical advantage, and sport weapons so short-ranged that [[LongRangeShortRangeWeapon [[ShortRangeLongRangeWeapon they have to be in contact with the target]]. But that doesn't stop them from spouting all sorts of nightmarish [[IShallTauntYou taunts]] at you, [[spoiler: and one of them shows enough skill to have sabotaged a nuclear reactor on its own.]]
22nd Oct '17 6:29:29 AM HeyFella
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* SelfDemonstrating/{{Bowser}} of ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' is frequently portrayed this way, especially in the ''VideoGame/PaperMario'' and ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigi'' games. In particular, ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiBowsersInsideStory'' gives him a BrainsEvilBrawnGood dynamic with Fawful, where the latter sets up a GambitRoulette and utilizes various gadgets and robots while Bowser simply punches his way through the Mushroom Kingdom to get his castle back. Averted in ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiDreamTeam'', where Bowser displays a surprising amount of competence from the get-go. Additionally, this is generally averted in the main series.

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* SelfDemonstrating/{{Bowser}} [[Characters/SuperMarioBrosBowser Bowser]] of ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' is frequently portrayed this way, especially in the ''VideoGame/PaperMario'' and ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigi'' games. In particular, ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiBowsersInsideStory'' gives him a BrainsEvilBrawnGood dynamic with Fawful, where the latter sets up a GambitRoulette and utilizes various gadgets and robots while Bowser simply punches his way through the Mushroom Kingdom to get his castle back. Averted in ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiDreamTeam'', where Bowser displays a surprising amount of competence from the get-go. Additionally, this is generally averted in the main series.
5th Oct '17 4:18:15 PM Carnel
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** Neither are perfect examples. Cirno isn't that strong compared to the rest of the cast, even though she far surpasses regular humans and yokai in magical ability, to the point that she is at risk of losing her nature as a fairy, and the immortality that goes with it - it could be argued that [[InvertedTrope they're]] dumb muscle compared to ''her'', being physically stronger due to their natures yet unable to use danmaku. For the oni, Suika is fairly intelligent, as seen in her story path of ''Immaterial and Missing Power'', Kasen definitely isn't dumb and her status as muscle is dubious, and we just haven't seen much of Yuugi. A better example would be Utsuho, who is extremely powerful, being essentially a living sun, and not all that much smarter than an actual crow. While crows are quite smart ''for birds'', they're still just birds. And most other characters have intelligence that's just as human-like as their appearance.

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** Neither are perfect examples. Cirno isn't that strong compared to the rest of the cast, even though she far surpasses regular humans and yokai in magical ability, to the point that she is at risk of losing her nature as a fairy, and the immortality that goes with it - it: in this respect, it could be argued that [[InvertedTrope they're]] dumb muscle compared to ''her'', being physically stronger due to their natures yet unable to use danmaku. For the oni, Suika is fairly intelligent, as seen in her story path of ''Immaterial and Missing Power'', Kasen definitely isn't dumb and her status as muscle is dubious, and we just haven't seen much of Yuugi. A better example would be Utsuho, who is extremely powerful, being essentially a living sun, and not all that much smarter than an actual crow. While crows are quite smart ''for birds'', they're still just birds. And most other characters have intelligence that's just as human-like as their appearance.
5th Oct '17 4:17:49 PM Carnel
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** Neither are perfect examples. Cirno isn't that strong compared to the rest of the cast, even though she far surpasses regular humans and yokai (to the point that she is at risk of losing her nature as a fairy, and the immortality that goes with it). For the oni, Suika is fairly intelligent, as seen in her story path of ''Immaterial and Missing Power'', Kasen definitely isn't dumb and her status as muscle is dubious, and we just haven't seen much of Yuugi. A better example would be Utsuho, who is extremely powerful, being essentially a living sun, and not all that much smarter than an actual crow. While crows are quite smart ''for birds'', they're still just birds. And most other characters have intelligence that's just as human-like as their appearance.

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** Neither are perfect examples. Cirno isn't that strong compared to the rest of the cast, even though she far surpasses regular humans and yokai (to in magical ability, to the point that she is at risk of losing her nature as a fairy, and the immortality that goes with it).it - it could be argued that [[InvertedTrope they're]] dumb muscle compared to ''her'', being physically stronger due to their natures yet unable to use danmaku. For the oni, Suika is fairly intelligent, as seen in her story path of ''Immaterial and Missing Power'', Kasen definitely isn't dumb and her status as muscle is dubious, and we just haven't seen much of Yuugi. A better example would be Utsuho, who is extremely powerful, being essentially a living sun, and not all that much smarter than an actual crow. While crows are quite smart ''for birds'', they're still just birds. And most other characters have intelligence that's just as human-like as their appearance.
6th Sep '17 8:41:44 AM BeerBaron
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* Many of the larger minor races in ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'', such as [[OurGiantsAreBigger Giants]] and [[ALoadOfBull Minotaurs]], are considered this by the races of Men and [[OurElvesAreBetter Mer]], but most subvert it by displaying greater intelligence than they are typically given credit for. [[OurOgresAreHungrier Ogres]] are one exception, typically being every bit as dumb as they are described to be. Exceptions exist, but they are fairly rare.

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* ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls''
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Many of the series' physically larger minor races in ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'', races, such as [[OurGiantsAreBigger Giants]] and [[ALoadOfBull Minotaurs]], are considered this by the races of Men and [[OurElvesAreBetter Mer]], but most subvert it by displaying greater intelligence than they are typically given credit for. [[OurOgresAreHungrier Ogres]] are one exception, typically being every bit as dumb as they are described to be. Exceptions exist, but they are fairly rare.rare.
** This is also the case for many forms of the series' [[OurDemonsAreDifferent lesser Daedra]]. Some, like the [[GiantMook massive]] Ogrim and [[NeverSmileAtACrocodile crocodilian]] Daedroth are quite powerful but have little intelligence to speak of. Even among the most intelligent and civilized varieties, such as the [[LegionsOfHell Dremora]] and [[AmazonBrigade Golden Saints]], it tends to be Downplayed. While sapient, they often put HonorBeforeReason and [[LeeroyJenkins prefer to attack issues head-on]], which, despite their power, isn't always the best course of action.
7th Aug '17 3:40:10 PM neosuduno
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** Neither are perfect examples. Cirno isn't that strong compared to the rest of the cast, or even a [[BoisterousWeakling regular person]] on a physical level. For the oni, Suika is fairly intelligent, as seen in her story path of ''Immaterial and Missing Power'', Kasen definitely isn't dumb and her status as muscle is dubious, and we just haven't seen much of Yuugi. A better example would be Utsuho, who is extremely powerful, being essentially a living sun, and not all that much smarter than an actual crow. While crows are quite smart ''for birds'', they're still just birds. And most other characters have intelligence that's just as human-like as their appearance.

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** Neither are perfect examples. Cirno isn't that strong compared to the rest of the cast, or even a [[BoisterousWeakling though she far surpasses regular person]] on humans and yokai (to the point that she is at risk of losing her nature as a physical level.fairy, and the immortality that goes with it). For the oni, Suika is fairly intelligent, as seen in her story path of ''Immaterial and Missing Power'', Kasen definitely isn't dumb and her status as muscle is dubious, and we just haven't seen much of Yuugi. A better example would be Utsuho, who is extremely powerful, being essentially a living sun, and not all that much smarter than an actual crow. While crows are quite smart ''for birds'', they're still just birds. And most other characters have intelligence that's just as human-like as their appearance.
30th Jul '17 5:13:08 AM Carnel
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* [[VideoGame/{{Touhou}} Cirno, the Strongest]] [[SubvertedTrope thinks]] she's this, but is closer to a SquishyWizard who [[BoisterousWeakling vastly overestimates her abilities]], and is furthermore considered intelligent for a fairy in the first place regardless.

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* [[VideoGame/{{Touhou}} Cirno, the Strongest]] [[SubvertedTrope [[WrongGenreSavvy thinks]] she's this, this (being able to pound a nail in with a banana, after all), but is closer to a SquishyWizard who [[BoisterousWeakling vastly overestimates her abilities]], and is furthermore likewise considered intelligent ''smart'' for a fairy in fairy, the first place regardless.average of which is much less intelligent.
16th Jul '17 10:56:25 PM Abodos
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* The Prone race in ''VideoGame/XenobladeChroniclesX'' are collectively like this. Their homeworld had been ravaged by a millennia-old war between two rival clans even before the Ganglion incorporated them into their ranks, and that whole time they never developed proper strategy, to the point that one Prone is fascinated by Sun Tzu's writings. They also frequently speak in HulkSpeak. Contrast all this with the [[CatFolk Wrothians]], who are also a ProudWarriorRace but are much more intelligent.
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