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6th Feb '16 10:21:30 PM Klavice
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** Speaking of villainous pegasi that get the treatment, there's also Wind Rider from ''Rarity Investigates'' who's often written as Lightning Dust's loving father who only tried to frame Rainbow Dash because it was her fault that his daughter lost her dreams. Never mind the fact Wind Rider doesn't look old enough to have a daughter in her early twenties though that could be ArtisticAge, and he tried to get Rainbow Dash kicked out for nothing besides the fact ''she was close to breaking his record''. Fans who like both and don't go for the father/daughter idea have them form their own "Wonderbolts" and have them give a HumiliationConga to the actual Wonderbolts. Or sometimes, Wind Rider is seen as the ''reason'' Lightning Dust is an uncaring sociopath. (Once again from the father/daughter route) Either way, both of these pegasi are treated like innocent woobies, and fans demonize the actual Wonderbolts and Rainbow Dash and use the episode "Rainbow Falls" as proof that Wind Rider is the only good Wonderbolt.
** Even ''Tirek'' the SatanicArchetype that he is, gets the leather pants by fans thinking like Discord and Diamond Tiara, he just wanted friends and felt [[ThenLetMeBeEvil betrayed]] when his brother joined the ponies and ignored him. These same fans are quick to ignore the fact that he destroyed Twilight's beloved tree home, drained the life force out of everypony, and in a bad future in the S5 Finale, blasts the ''shit'' out of the entire world while growing to increasingly terrifying heights and not giving a damn that ponies are being hurt by his actions. Fans will give him an excuse that his parents were at the very least neglectful or raised him TheSpartanWay, his brother was the cause of his evil.
30th Jan '16 1:34:32 AM bwburke94
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** Ivy in particular gets this a lot because [[EvilIsSexy she is so hot and sexy]], because she's [[DeadpanSnarker quick-witted and funny]], and also because she [[PetTheDog occasionally acts as a big sister to the naive and put-upon Harley Quinn]], who ''does'' suffer a great deal at the hands of TheJoker and various others and legitimately deserves some sympathy herself. However, none of this should make anyone forget that the rest of the time she's a nasty piece of work, [[DisproportionateRetribution killing people left and right for her own insane reasons]] (or, on one heinous occasion, trying to turn them into ''trees'' after exposing them to a plant-based elixir that she promised would grant them immortality), and also being a [[ManipulativeBastard Manipulative Bitch]], using her goddess-like beauty to weaken men's resolve or [[ScrewTheRulesImBeautiful squirm her way out of being punished for her actions]].

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** Ivy in particular gets this a lot because [[EvilIsSexy she is so hot and sexy]], because she's [[DeadpanSnarker quick-witted and funny]], and also because she [[PetTheDog occasionally acts as a big sister to the naive and put-upon Harley Quinn]], who ''does'' suffer a great deal at the hands of TheJoker ComicBook/TheJoker and various others and legitimately deserves some sympathy herself. However, none of this should make anyone forget that the rest of the time she's a nasty piece of work, [[DisproportionateRetribution killing people left and right for her own insane reasons]] (or, on one heinous occasion, trying to turn them into ''trees'' after exposing them to a plant-based elixir that she promised would grant them immortality), and also being a [[ManipulativeBastard Manipulative Bitch]], using her goddess-like beauty to weaken men's resolve or [[ScrewTheRulesImBeautiful squirm her way out of being punished for her actions]].
12th Jan '16 7:00:06 AM Kalaong
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** Recurring character and WellIntentionedExtremist Jet had a lot of fans rationalizing his act of [[KickTheDog flooding a village that was filled with civilians to kill a few Fire Nation soldiers]] (to the point where only a handful seem to remember that it was an ''Earth Kingdom'' village, not a Fire Nation one), which is missing the point. Even Jet himself later seems to realize he went too far there and that his psychological desire for revenge ''really'' overcame his heroic desire to be a freedom fighter, and works [[TheAtoner to atone for it.]]
** [[EvilChancellor Long Feng]] and his [[SecretPolice Dai Li]] are sometimes given this treatment, with their [[OrwellianEditor Orwellian]] methods and repression of Ba Sing Se painted as the act of true patriots who were compelled to do whatever it took to keep their city safe.

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** Recurring character and WellIntentionedExtremist Jet had a lot of fans rationalizing his act of [[KickTheDog flooding a village that was filled with civilians to kill a few Fire Nation soldiers]] (to the point where only a handful seem to remember that it was an ''Earth Kingdom'' village, village under occupation, not a Fire Nation one), colony), which is missing the point. Even Jet himself later seems to realize he went too far there and that his psychological desire for revenge ''really'' overcame his heroic desire to be a freedom fighter, and works [[TheAtoner to atone for it.]]
** [[EvilChancellor Long Feng]] and his [[SecretPolice Dai Li]] are sometimes given this treatment, with their [[OrwellianEditor Orwellian]] methods and repression of Ba Sing Se painted as the act of true patriots who were compelled to do whatever it took to keep their city safe. [[Fanfic/{{Embers}} Case in point.]]
8th Dec '15 8:51:33 PM Ugolino
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** The ''Anime/TransformersArmada'' incarnation of Starscream is pretty much entirely remembered for the period he defected to the Autobots. Based on how people talk about it, you'd think it happened in the first episode and he served the good guys with honorable conviction, as opposed to lasting a total of three episodes where his entire motivation was that he wanted to kill his boss and he thought it'd be more convenient to do so with allies. He does make a somewhat more genuine HeelFaceTurn towards the end of the series, and even a HeroicSacrifice, but even then, he was hardly the "hero on the wrong side" many refer to him as. Fans of the character also tend to toss his later ''Energon'' and ''Cybertron'' appearances, where he was completely evil, into FanonDiscontinuity.
7th Nov '15 9:26:34 PM germanlureag
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* ''WebAnimation/HappyTreeFriends'' fandom does this with Evil Flippy, insisting that he's really just misunderstood and needs the "twu wuv" of [[ShrinkingViolet Flaky]], a MarySue, or [[ScrewYourself his good side]] in order to become an upstanding member of society. Never mind that [[FanDumb they've already got Good Flippy to toy with.]]

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* ''WebAnimation/HappyTreeFriends'' fandom does this with Evil Flippy, insisting that he's really just misunderstood and needs the "twu wuv" of [[ShrinkingViolet Flaky]], a MarySue, or [[ScrewYourself his good side]] in order to become an upstanding member of society. Never mind that [[FanDumb they've already got Good Flippy to toy with.]]



** Most of the villains get this treatment. There are some fans who will portray Scott as kinder for the sake of [=DawnxScott=], and even ''Mal'' is portrayed as having a shred of goodness in him in some fanon, despite being essentially the embodiment of chaotic evil.

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** Most of the villains get this treatment. There are some fans who will portray Scott as kinder for the sake of [=DawnxScott=], someone, and even ''Mal'' is portrayed as having a shred of goodness in him in some fanon, despite being essentially the embodiment of chaotic evil.
7th Nov '15 6:26:27 PM Ugolino
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** Strangely, these views seems to be endorsed by [[AllLovingHero Steven himself]], who consistently takes a generous view on their actions. He dismisses insults to Lapis as "She was just trying to find her way home," and has to be actively reminded several times ([[spoiler: prior to her HeelFaceTurn]]) that Peridot is their enemy. The closest he ever comes to acknowledging a Homeworld Gem doing a bad thing is when he calls Jasper "mean." It's perhaps worth noting that Steven's trusting attitude seems to bear a great deal of fruit, with both Lapis and Peridot regarding him as their friend, and most of their more positive actions being done for him.
16th Oct '15 5:54:46 PM Redmane
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** The Gangreen Gang get this to an extent. Some people in the fandom portray them as these innocent boys whom the world and their families have outcasted for no good reason; and while the show has suggested here and there that the team might have some good in them (like when they helped the girls take down Sedusa, or how they changed sides in the FusionFall game), they're still delinquent, disrespectful teens who vandalize the city and prey on children and the elderly just for kicks.
14th Oct '15 5:59:38 PM Isaac_Heller
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** Completing the trifecta, Peridot is at best a PunchClockVillain with no concern for the suffering and death her actions will cause, but some of her fans claim that she's an innocent in all this and unaware of the true extent of Kindergarten and the [[spoiler:forced fusion]] experiments.

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** Completing the trifecta, Peridot is at best a PunchClockVillain with no concern for the suffering and death her actions will cause, but some of her fans claim that she's an innocent in all this and unaware of the true extent of Kindergarten and the [[spoiler:forced fusion]] experiments. While this view is closest to the truth (Peridot is even [[spoiler: revealed to essentially be a ''child'' who only appears older with limb enhancers]]), it can still be unnecessarily exaggerated.
14th Oct '15 5:53:54 PM Isaac_Heller
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** Trixie from "Boast Busters" had fans protesting she was just a traveling entertainer (true) whose audience was being unnecessarily mocking and hostile, that she was justified in humiliating Applejack, Rarity, and Rainbow Dash in front of their friends and neighbors, and that she was unjustly punished at the end of the episode, largely ignoring that she's a boastful, lying egomaniac both on- and off-stage. She did seem guilty about one of her lies indirectly leading to [[BearsAreBadNews an Ursa Minor attacking Ponyville]], but after the threat is dealt with she's right back to being all bluff and bravado. At the end of "Magic Duel" Trixie does have a legitimate HeelFaceTurn and renames herself as "The Great and ''Apologetic'' Trixie". Funnily enough, the reason she initially stated for her revenge (having her reputation and livelihood destroyed) were the exact same things her fans complained about.

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** Trixie from "Boast Busters" had fans protesting she was just a traveling entertainer (true) whose audience was being unnecessarily mocking and hostile, that she was justified in humiliating Applejack, Rarity, and Rainbow Dash in front of their friends and neighbors, and that she was unjustly punished at the end of the episode, largely ignoring that she's a boastful, lying egomaniac both on- and ''and'' off-stage. She did seem guilty about one of her lies indirectly leading to [[BearsAreBadNews an Ursa Minor attacking Ponyville]], Ponyville]] and admirably ''tried'' to fight it off, but after the threat is dealt with by Twilight Sprakle, she's right back to being all bluff and bravado. At the end of "Magic Duel" Trixie does have a legitimate HeelFaceTurn and renames herself as "The Great and ''Apologetic'' Trixie". Funnily enough, the reason she initially stated for her revenge (having her reputation and livelihood destroyed) were the exact same things her fans complained about.



** Even Diamond Tiara gets this from people think she's ''not'' an AlphaBitch at all, and is simply a LonelyRichKid who's only friend was Silver Spoon and she just wants friends. Her fans even ignore the fact that she [[KickTheDog mocked Scootaloo for her flightlessness]] and bullies the Cutie Mark Crusaders constantly, while showing no remorse for doing so. Conversely, the CMC are either [[RonTheDeathEater demonized]] or made into her friends.

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** Even Diamond Tiara gets this from people think she's ''not'' an AlphaBitch at all, and is simply a LonelyRichKid who's only friend was Silver Spoon and she just wants friends. Her fans even friends. While the latter part of that statement ended up being entirely correct in Season 5's "Crusaders of the Lost Cutie Mark", in which she makes a HeelFaceTurn and becomes friends with the CMC, this redemption loses its power if you ignore the fact that she genuinely ''was'' a cruel [[KickTheDog mocked Scootaloo for her flightlessness]] and bullies the Cutie Mark Crusaders constantly, while showing no remorse for doing so. Conversely, the CMC are either [[RonTheDeathEater demonized]] or made into her friends.dog-kicking]] AlphaBitch beforehand like these fans do.
6th Sep '15 2:26:03 AM Morgenthaler
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** ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime'' has Knock Out, [[EvenTheGuysWantHim who even has some men in the audience wishing they could drive a car like that]]. On Website/YouTube, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ppDo5kp888 he's also been turned into]] a MemeticSexGod, despite being a total narcissist.

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** ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime'' has Knock Out, [[EvenTheGuysWantHim who even has some men in the audience wishing they could drive a car like that]]. On Website/YouTube, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ppDo5kp888 he's also been turned into]] a MemeticSexGod, sex symbol, despite being a total narcissist.
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