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27th Oct '17 1:24:37 PM Isaac_Heller
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** Charmcaster in ''Ultimate Alien'' is pretty much [[{{Teen Titans}} Terra]] when it comes to fan reaction: she's ''meant'' to be a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds AntiVillain, but certain fans focus too much on the "Woobie" and "Anti" while ignoring the "Destroyer of Worlds" and "Villains", while on the flipside there are those who [[RonTheDeathEater only insist on seeing the "Destroyer of Worlds" and "Villains" but not the "Woobie" and "Anti".]] ''Omniverse'' almost seems to parody these two extremes with Hobble and Ben's attitudes toward her respectively, leaving Rook as the only one taking the intended middle-road response.

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** Charmcaster in ''Ultimate Alien'' is pretty much [[{{Teen Titans}} Terra]] when it comes to fan reaction: she's ''meant'' to be a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds AntiVillain, but certain fans focus too much on the "Woobie" and "Anti" while ignoring the "Destroyer of Worlds" and "Villains", "Villain", while on the flipside there are those who [[RonTheDeathEater only insist on seeing the "Destroyer of Worlds" and "Villains" "Villain" but not the "Woobie" and "Anti".]] ''Omniverse'' almost seems to parody these two extremes with Hobble and Ben's attitudes toward her respectively, leaving Rook as the only one taking the intended middle-road response.
26th Oct '17 5:41:13 AM MsCC93
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** Eddy gets ''a lot'' of this. Fans use his [[spoiler: FreudianExcuse involving his brother]] as a legitimate excuse for how badly he treats his friends and the other kids in the series. This is ignoring the fact that most of Eddy's jerkass behavior is done out of free will, as Eddy sometimes starts unprovoked drama with the the other Cul-De-Sac kids. Fans would even go as far as to attempt to push the blame off of Eddy by putting all the blame solely on the other characters for their roles they played against Eddy and his actions (just go to any type of comments on videos/pages of the episodes "A Case of Ed" and "Brother, Can You Spare an Ed" and you'll see whitewashing).

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** Eddy gets ''a lot'' of this. Fans use his [[spoiler: FreudianExcuse involving his brother]] as a legitimate excuse for how badly he treats his friends and the other kids in the series. This is ignoring the fact that most of Eddy's jerkass behavior is done out of free will, as Eddy sometimes starts unprovoked drama with the the other Cul-De-Sac kids. Fans would even go as far as to attempt to push the blame off of Eddy by putting all the blame solely on the other characters for their roles they played against Eddy and his actions (just go to any type of the videos (especially the Youtube comments on videos/pages said videos) and the comments of the episodes episode pages of "A Case of Ed" and "Brother, Can You Spare an Ed" and you'll see whitewashing).a lot of whitewashing/ignoring of Eddy's behavior).
26th Oct '17 5:38:18 AM MsCC93
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** Eddy gets ''a lot'' of this. Fans use his [[spoiler: FreudianExcuse involving his brother]] as a legitimate excuse for how badly he treats his friends and the other kids in the series. This is ignoring the fact that most of Eddy's jerkass behavior is done out of free will, as Eddy sometimes starts unprovoked drama with the main scrappies (Kevin, Sarah, and mostly Jimmy due to his feminine traits). Heck, even Rolf, Jonny, & Nazz, the kids who ''aren't'' scrappies, get pushed too far by Eddy sometimes. Yet fans still see Eddy as a victim who does little to nothing wrong to others.

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** Eddy gets ''a lot'' of this. Fans use his [[spoiler: FreudianExcuse involving his brother]] as a legitimate excuse for how badly he treats his friends and the other kids in the series. This is ignoring the fact that most of Eddy's jerkass behavior is done out of free will, as Eddy sometimes starts unprovoked drama with the main scrappies (Kevin, Sarah, and mostly Jimmy due to his feminine traits). Heck, the other Cul-De-Sac kids. Fans would even Rolf, Jonny, & Nazz, go as far as to attempt to push the kids who ''aren't'' scrappies, get pushed too far by blame off of Eddy sometimes. Yet fans still see by putting all the blame solely on the other characters for their roles they played against Eddy as a victim who does little and his actions (just go to nothing wrong to others. any type of comments on videos/pages of the episodes "A Case of Ed" and "Brother, Can You Spare an Ed" and you'll see whitewashing).



** [[BigBad Slade]], whose intelligence, competency and "cool" factor results in many fans ignoring the fact that he's a mind-raping adult who takes pride in stalking and fighting teenagers.
** There's a subset of fans who think Terra should have been welcomed back with open arms and accepted as a permanent member of the team even after her stint as TheMole and TheDragon to Slade. They argue that none of it was her fault since Slade manipulated her (Terra herself makes this argument, but Beast Boy points out that she could have gotten out at any time but chose not too, and Terra ends up redeeming herself by ''accepting'' this and taking responsibility). She's a sympathetic AntiHero[=/=]AntiVillain WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds to be sure, but to paint her as a blameless martyr is to miss the point of her character (of course, so's painting her as an [[RonTheDeathEater irredeemable fiend]] like certain other fans like to do).

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** [[BigBad Slade]], whose intelligence, competency and "cool" factor results in many fans ignoring the fact that he's a mind-raping adult who takes pride in stalking and fighting teenagers.
teenagers. Some fans even go as far as to find him blameless for Terra betraying the Titans. While yes, it was partially Terra's fault, Slade still played a role in it. Fans even go as far as to make him innocent compared to Terra.
** There's a subset of fans who think Terra should have been welcomed back with open arms and accepted as a permanent member of the team even after her stint as TheMole and TheDragon to Slade. They argue that none of it was her fault since Slade manipulated her (Terra ([[NeverMyFault Terra herself makes this argument, argument]], but Beast Boy points out that she could have gotten out at any time but chose not too, to, and Terra ends up redeeming herself by ''accepting'' [[ItsAllMyFault this and taking responsibility). responsibility]]). She's a sympathetic AntiHero[=/=]AntiVillain WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds to be sure, but to paint her as a blameless martyr is to miss is missing the point of her character (of course, so's but so is painting her as an [[RonTheDeathEater irredeemable fiend]] like certain other fans like to do).do, which is just as bad, and if not worse).
15th Oct '17 11:17:05 PM VisitorAlex
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** While Lemongrab was a HateSink, he still has fans. Yup, he has a loud fanbase that often forgot just why everyone hates him so much. [[spoiler: Even after being revealed he uses his mental illness as an excuse to be a jerkass to everyone (when Lemonjon got Empathy), eating and mutilating his own brother, and finally becoming a [[FatBastard corpulent]] [[TheCaligula dictator]], his fanbase ''still'' tries to get everyone to sympathize with him despite revelations showing he doesn't deserve it.]]

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** While Lemongrab was intended to be a HateSink, he still has fans. Yup, he has a loud fanbase that often forgot just why everyone hates him so much. [[spoiler: Even after being revealed he uses his mental illness as an excuse to be a jerkass to everyone (when Lemonjon got Empathy), eating and mutilating his own brother, and finally becoming a [[FatBastard corpulent]] [[TheCaligula dictator]], his fanbase ''still'' tries to get everyone to sympathize with him despite revelations showing he doesn't deserve it.]]
15th Oct '17 11:15:44 PM VisitorAlex
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** While Lemongrab [[HateSink was originally intended to be hated]], he still has fans. Yup, he has a loud fanbase that often forgot just why everyone hates him so much. [[spoiler: Even after being revealed he uses his mental illness as an excuse to be a jerkass to everyone (when Lemonjon got Empathy), eating and mutilating his own brother, and finally becoming a [[FatBastard corpulent]] [[TheCaligula dictator]], his fanbase ''still'' tries to get everyone to sympathize with him despite revelations showing he doesn't deserve it.]]

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** While Lemongrab [[HateSink was originally intended to be hated]], a HateSink, he still has fans. Yup, he has a loud fanbase that often forgot just why everyone hates him so much. [[spoiler: Even after being revealed he uses his mental illness as an excuse to be a jerkass to everyone (when Lemonjon got Empathy), eating and mutilating his own brother, and finally becoming a [[FatBastard corpulent]] [[TheCaligula dictator]], his fanbase ''still'' tries to get everyone to sympathize with him despite revelations showing he doesn't deserve it.]]
15th Oct '17 11:14:36 PM VisitorAlex
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** Even for being a [[TheScrappy Scrappy]] character, Lemongrab still has fans. He has a loud fanbase that often forgot just why everyone hates him so much. [[spoiler: Even after being revealed he uses his mental illness as an excuse to be a jerkass to everyone (when Lemonjon got Empathy), eating and mutilating his own brother, and finally becoming a [[FatBastard corpulent]] [[TheCaligula dictator]], his fanbase ''still'' tries to get everyone to sympathize with him despite revelations showing he doesn't deserve it.]]

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** Even for being a [[TheScrappy Scrappy]] character, While Lemongrab [[HateSink was originally intended to be hated]], he still has fans. He Yup, he has a loud fanbase that often forgot just why everyone hates him so much. [[spoiler: Even after being revealed he uses his mental illness as an excuse to be a jerkass to everyone (when Lemonjon got Empathy), eating and mutilating his own brother, and finally becoming a [[FatBastard corpulent]] [[TheCaligula dictator]], his fanbase ''still'' tries to get everyone to sympathize with him despite revelations showing he doesn't deserve it.]]



** Three words: ''Aku''. ''Has''. ''FANGIRLS''. Yup, he has a loud fanbase that sympathize with him for being MadeOfEvil. He simply CAN'T stop being evil because it's in his very nature to be evil. The fact that [[spoiler:some fans saw his death as a TearJerker moment of the series only cemented this status, since his death marks the end to an iconic Cartoon Network villain many grew up with]]. Of course, this is ignoring that Aku is a depraved tyrant who has an incredibly long list of crimes and atrocities; and his [[LaughablyEvil sense of humor]] aside, he has no redeemable traits. Some fans even consider him as UglyCute or CreepyCute, largely due to his somewhat simplistic design.

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** Three words: ''Aku''. ''Has''. ''FANGIRLS''. Yup, ''FANGIRLS''.
*** Besides,
he has a loud fanbase that sympathize with him for being MadeOfEvil. He simply CAN'T stop being evil because it's in his very nature to be evil. The fact that [[spoiler:some fans saw his death as a TearJerker moment of the series only cemented this status, since his death marks the end to an iconic Cartoon Network villain many grew up with]]. Of course, this is ignoring that Aku is a depraved tyrant who has an incredibly long list of crimes and atrocities; and his [[LaughablyEvil sense of humor]] aside, he has no redeemable traits. Some fans even consider him as UglyCute or CreepyCute, largely due to his somewhat simplistic design.
13th Oct '17 2:10:52 PM VisitorAlex
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** Aku. He has a loud fanbase that sympathize with him for being MadeOfEvil. He simply CAN'T stop being evil because it's in his very nature to be evil. The fact that [[spoiler:some fans saw his death as a TearJerker moment of the series only cemented this status, since his death marks the end to an iconic Cartoon Network villain many grew up with]]. Of course, this is ignoring that Aku is a depraved tyrant who has an incredibly long list of crimes and atrocities; and his [[LaughablyEvil sense of humor]] aside, he has no redeemable traits. Some fans even consider him as UglyCute or CreepyCute, largely due to his somewhat simplistic design.

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** Aku. He Three words: ''Aku''. ''Has''. ''FANGIRLS''. Yup, he has a loud fanbase that sympathize with him for being MadeOfEvil. He simply CAN'T stop being evil because it's in his very nature to be evil. The fact that [[spoiler:some fans saw his death as a TearJerker moment of the series only cemented this status, since his death marks the end to an iconic Cartoon Network villain many grew up with]]. Of course, this is ignoring that Aku is a depraved tyrant who has an incredibly long list of crimes and atrocities; and his [[LaughablyEvil sense of humor]] aside, he has no redeemable traits. Some fans even consider him as UglyCute or CreepyCute, largely due to his somewhat simplistic design.
8th Oct '17 11:57:39 AM MsCC93
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** [[{{Jerkass}} Lois]] may qualify. Some of her defenders usually try to excuse her abuse towards [[TheWoobie Meg]] by saying that because other characters are cruel to Meg, that justifies her abuse. While it's true that other characters are cruel to Meg, the only reason Lois isn't vilified for it while Peter is is because she is [[CloserToEarth the smarter of the two]]. Not to mention she's Meg's ''mother''.
6th Oct '17 1:51:12 PM azul120
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** [[{{Jerkass}} Lois]] may qualify. Some of her defenders usually try to excuse her abuse towards [[TheWoobie Meg]] by saying that because other characters are cruel to Meg, that justifies her abuse. While it's true that other characters are cruel to Meg, the only reason Lois is vilified for it while Peter isn't is because she is the smarter of the two. Not to mention she's Meg's ''mother.''

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** [[{{Jerkass}} Lois]] may qualify. Some of her defenders usually try to excuse her abuse towards [[TheWoobie Meg]] by saying that because other characters are cruel to Meg, that justifies her abuse. While it's true that other characters are cruel to Meg, the only reason Lois is isn't vilified for it while Peter isn't is is because she is [[CloserToEarth the smarter of the two. two]]. Not to mention she's Meg's ''mother.''''mother''.
3rd Oct '17 6:17:04 AM MsCC93
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** The Daughters of Aku. They gained a lot of sympathy from the fans who saw them as {{Tragic Villain}}s who've had no choice over their own fate, in spite of their ruthlessness and LackOfEmpathy. Then, during a climactic fight, [[spoiler:Ashi more-or-less states that they never had a choice of what they would do with their lives from the day they were born when confronting her mother]], indicating that the sympathy for these characters was an IntendedAudienceReaction.

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** The Daughters of Aku. They gained a lot of sympathy from the fans who saw them as {{Tragic Villain}}s who've had no choice over their own fate, in spite of their ruthlessness and LackOfEmpathy. Then, during a climactic fight, [[spoiler:Ashi more-or-less states that they never had a choice of what they would do with their lives from the day they were born when confronting her mother]], indicating that the sympathy for these characters was an IntendedAudienceReaction. It also helps that it's rare that fans even justify their actions towards Jack anyway.
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