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8th Jan '17 1:16:31 PM JulianLapostat
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* Creator/JKRowling has [[WordOfGod spoken out]] against people who dare to suggest that [[BigBad Lord Voldemort]] isn't as horrible as she insists he is. Significant parts of Book 6 are meant as {{Take That}}s against those people. For example, he lived in an orphanage, all right (just like ComicStrip/LittleOrphanAnnie), but the most horrible thing in said orphanage was... [[CreepyChild himself]]. He used his magic to bully other kids and was feared both by them and by the staff. It's clear that he was never a good guy.

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* Creator/JKRowling has [[WordOfGod spoken out]] against people who dare to suggest that [[BigBad Lord Voldemort]] isn't as horrible as she insists he is. Significant parts of Book 6 are meant as {{Take That}}s against those people. For example, he lived in an orphanage, all right (just like ComicStrip/LittleOrphanAnnie), but the most horrible thing in said orphanage was... [[CreepyChild himself]]. He used his magic to bully other kids and was feared both by them and by the staff. It's clear that he was never a good guy.guy and that his modus operandi in his Tom Riddle phase, like many sociopaths, involved tapping into people's innate sense of sympathy for a poor orphan boy to get what he wants. So in some sense, these fans are more or less marks of Riddle's con in a meta-sense.



** There's also a tendency to portray his nastiness as an act to maintain cover or due to manipulation by Dumbledore, which is only at most partially true. There are a lot of changes people make to him in fanon that don't line up with the original works even to extreme degrees. Some that even portray James as the full reason he switched and not Lily, that he loved her but he only either said that to protect her or out of misplaced rage.
*** His parents' poor treatment of him is blamed a lot too, despite only being mentioned in passing.
** Like Draco, at least part of his popularity can probably be attributed to his depiction in the films, done by the talented, suave and fairly handsome Alan Rickman.
*** Also like Draco, the films remove many of Snape's worse moments (such as his threat to poison Neville's toad and his calling Lily a [[FantasticSlur Mudblood]]) and add in scenes designed to make him more sympathetic (such as the scene of him [[spoiler:crying over Lily's corpse]] in ''Deathly Hallows''.)
* The [[TrueCompanions Marauders]] get this a lot. Many fans try to rationalize their repeated bullying of Snape. Never mind the fact that from the stories we hear it seemed that they always outnumbered him and that James and Sirius started it. Sirius even tried to get Snape killed once using Remus' werewolf form before James intervened.

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** There's also a tendency to portray his nastiness as an act to maintain cover or due to manipulation by Dumbledore, Dumbledore when in the books, Dumbledore is sad when Snape insists that Dumbledore never tell anyone about his love for Lily, lamenting that he has to hide the best of Snape. Dumbledore also gives Snape many chances to mend fences with Harry, insisting that he's being unfair, i.e. Dumbledore ''wanted'' Snape to be nicer but didn't press the matter when the latter said no. Fanon!Snape more or less makes Snape a doormat whose actions can always be blamed and excused on others, without Snape [[NeverMyFault having to take responsibility for his actions]]. His parents' poor treatment of him is blamed a lot too, despite only being mentioned in passing.
** There's also the fact that many of Snape's genuinely unpleasant behaviour in the earlier books is either forgotten altogether or excused and whitewashed away. Snape was willing to sic Dementors on Sirius Black [[OnlySaneMan ''after'' the latter surrendered]], acting very much in a manner that Umbridge and Barty Crouch Sr. and Fudge is criticized for later in the books. He also outed Remus Lupin
which is only at most partially true. There are a lot of changes people make to him in fanon some blame Remus for because the latter forgot the Wolfsbane Potion, except that don't line up with Snape is equally to blame since he marched into the original works even to extreme degrees. Some Shrieking Shack without the potion (''[[WhatAnIdiot that even portray James as the full reason he switched had brought into Lupin's room and forgot about altogether]]'') and not once reminds Lupin of his error in the entire time he spends to gloat on his former teen enemies. Snape was also abusive to Neville Longbottom for no reason, and while fans say that his hatred for Neville was because of his love for Lily, the implications of that he loved her but he only either said that to protect her or out of misplaced rage.hatred (that be believes [[YouShouldHaveDiedInstead Neville should have died instead]]) makes [[JerkAss Snape even more unsympathetic]] and makes his [[YouKeepUsingThatWord "love" an excuse for terrible behaviour]].
*** His parents' poor treatment of him is blamed a lot too, despite only being mentioned in passing.
** Like Draco, at least part of his popularity can probably be attributed to his depiction in the films, done by the talented, suave and fairly handsome Alan Rickman.
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Rickman. Also like Draco, the films remove many of Snape's above mentioned worse moments (such as his threat to poison Neville's toad and his calling Lily a [[FantasticSlur Mudblood]]) Mudblood]]), his insulting of Remus because the latter is a werewolf, and add in scenes designed to make him more sympathetic (such as the scene of him [[spoiler:crying over Lily's corpse]] in ''Deathly Hallows''.)
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* The [[TrueCompanions Marauders]] get this were general fan favourites until Book 5 presented a lot. darker look at some of their schoolyard antics which led to them becoming RonTheDeathEater for many Snape fans. In response some fans go the other way. Many fans try to rationalize their repeated bullying of Snape. Never mind Snape because of his FantasticRacism and his Voldemort fanboyism. In the fact that from books, the stories we hear it seemed that they always outnumbered him rivalry was personal first rather than political, and that inspired by a mix of James and Sirius started it. disliking Snape for how he looked, for the fact that he wanted to be in Slytherin (by Sirius even tried at least) and that [[GreenEyedMonster he was friendly with]] Lily (for James). Of course, they did turn out to get Snape killed once using Remus' werewolf form before James intervened.be on the side of the good guys but the whole point of that memory is that GoodIsNotNice.
26th Nov '16 4:24:00 PM IchigoMontoya
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* The TropeNamer himself, Draco Malfoy. It's easy to forget that there was a time when fans ''did'' see him as the [[SmugSnake smug]] [[FantasticRacism elitist]] SpoiledBrat DirtyCoward [[TheBully bully]] who only felt confident behind his burly cronies that he is. Since the movies, however (see below) fans have liked to paint him as a sexy and sensitive guy. He ''does'' get a little better by ''Half-Blood Prince'' and becomes somewhat of a JerkassWoobie, but he's still far from nice, and never canonically lives up to the MrFanservice treatment by his fans. Some fanfics get a little ridiculous, [[CrackPairing pairing Draco with the most unlikely people (Hermione, Ginny, Luna, etc)]]-- or at least, the pairing ''would'' be crack if the fans doing it [[OneTruePairing were not 100% serious]].

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* The TropeNamer himself, Draco Malfoy. It's easy to forget that there was a time when fans ''did'' see him as the [[SmugSnake smug]] smug]], [[FantasticRacism elitist]] SpoiledBrat DirtyCoward elitist]], [[SpoiledBrat spoiled]], and [[DirtyCoward cowardly]] [[TheBully bully]] who only felt confident behind his burly cronies that he is. Since the movies, however (see below) fans have liked to paint him as a sexy and sensitive guy. He ''does'' get a little better by ''Half-Blood Prince'' and becomes somewhat of a JerkassWoobie, but he's still far from nice, and never canonically lives up to the MrFanservice treatment by his fans. Some fanfics get a little ridiculous, [[CrackPairing pairing Draco with the most unlikely people (Hermione, Ginny, Luna, etc)]]-- or at least, the pairing ''would'' be crack if the fans doing it [[OneTruePairing were not 100% serious]].



--->It amuses me. It honestly amuses me. People have been waxing lyrical [in letters] about Draco Malfoy, and I think that's the only time when it stopped amusing me and started almost worrying me. I'm trying to clearly distinguish between Tom Felton, who is a good looking young boy, and Draco, who, whatever he looks like, is not a nice man. It’s a romantic, but unhealthy, and unfortunately all too common delusion of — delusion, there you go — of girls, and you [nods to Melissa] will know this, that they are going to change someone. And that persists through many women's lives, till their death bed, and it is uncomfortable and unhealthy and it actually worried me a little bit, to see young girls swearing undying devotion to this really imperfect character, because there must be an element in there, that "I'd be the one who [changes him]." I mean, I understand the psychology of it, but it is pretty unhealthy. So, a couple of times I have written back, possibly quite sharply, saying [Laughter], "You want to rethink your priorities here."

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--->It amuses me. It honestly amuses me. People have been waxing lyrical [in letters] about Draco Malfoy, and I think that's the only time when it stopped amusing me and started almost worrying me. I'm trying to clearly distinguish between Tom Felton, Creator/TomFelton, who is a good looking young boy, and Draco, who, whatever he looks like, is not a nice man. It’s a romantic, but unhealthy, and unfortunately all too common delusion of — delusion, there you go — of girls, and you [nods to Melissa] will know this, that they are going to change someone. And that persists through many women's lives, till their death bed, and it is uncomfortable and unhealthy and it actually worried me a little bit, to see young girls swearing undying devotion to this really imperfect character, because there must be an element in there, that "I'd be the one who [changes him]." I mean, I understand the psychology of it, but it is pretty unhealthy. So, a couple of times I have written back, possibly quite sharply, saying [Laughter], "You want to rethink your priorities here."



** Interestingly played with in the fic ''Fanfic/HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality'' -- Draco is a genuinely likable boy who just happened to be raised by [[Franchise/StarWars Darth Vader]]. Harry interacts with him rather differently in his first meeting and instead of the immediate politically charged rivalry, we get a less immediate yet still politically charged kind of alliance. And then later on, when he's an occasional viewpoint character with a fairly sympathetic perspective, you keep running into the fact that he believes Dumbledore to be entirely evil. When his views change and he can finally come out and tell someone about that they think "his father will skin him alive and turn him into trousers."

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** Interestingly played with in the fic ''Fanfic/HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality'' -- Draco is a genuinely likable boy who just happened to be raised by a [[Franchise/StarWars Darth Vader]].Vader]]-esque Lucius. Harry interacts with him rather differently in his first meeting and instead of the immediate politically charged rivalry, we get a less immediate yet still politically charged kind of alliance. And then later on, when he's an occasional viewpoint character with a fairly sympathetic perspective, you keep running into the fact that he believes Dumbledore to be entirely evil. When his views change and he can finally come out and tell someone about that they think "his father will skin him alive and turn him into trousers."



** The crossover fanfic ''[[Fanfic/HarryTano Harry Tano]]'' amusingly references this with an [[DefectorFromDecadence about-to-defect]] Draco wearing trousers made from Hungarian Horntail Hide. A [[IncrediblyLamePun literal]] DracoInLeatherPants.

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** The crossover fanfic ''[[Fanfic/HarryTano Harry Tano]]'' ''Fanfic/HarryTano'' amusingly references this with an [[DefectorFromDecadence about-to-defect]] Draco wearing trousers made from Hungarian Horntail Hide. A [[IncrediblyLamePun literal]] DracoInLeatherPants.Draco in leather pants.



*** It's also worth noting that the movies skip over or omit A LOT of Draco's antagonistic activities. This leads to him seeming not quite as bad as he simply has less screen time and is less often seen acting as a bully than he is in the books, and his relation with Harry also therefore seems less antagonistic. For example in ''Goblet of Fire'', the "Potter Stinks" pins are turned into a 30 second visual bit with no impact on the plot, and never really tied to Draco himself. In the book it's a year-long harassment campaign Draco is heading against Harry, and their frequency an indicator of how the school feels about Harry's performance in the tournament.
** Rowling finally gave Draco a profile on Pottermore, where she admits she does consider him to be somewhat more than a cowardly bully, especially by ''Half-Blood Prince.'' Among other things, she notes that he's a talented [[PsychicBlockDefense Occlumens]] due to his skill at suppressing his own emotions, and he does eventually learn his lesson when he [[HeelRealization realizes that]] [[BecauseYouWereNiceToMe Dumbledore, Snape, and Harry were most kind to him]]. He probably never becomes a very good person, but he manages to let go of his old prejudices, and eventually brings up his son far better than his father did him. Not an unlikeable character, but not exactly the sex god antihero.
* Creator/JKRowling has [[WordOfGod spoken out]] against people who dare to suggest that [[BigBad Voldemort]] isn't as horrible as she insists he is. Significant parts of Book 6 are meant as {{Take That}}s against those people. For example, he lived in an orphanage, all right (just like ComicStrip/LittleOrphanAnnie), but the most horrible thing in said orphanage was... [[CreepyChild himself]]. He used his magic to bully other kids and was feared both by them and by the staff. It's clear that he was never a good guy.

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*** It's also worth noting that the movies skip over or omit A LOT a good bit of Draco's antagonistic activities. This leads to him seeming not quite as bad as he simply has less screen time and is less often seen acting as a bully than he is in the books, and his relation with Harry also therefore seems less antagonistic. For example in ''Goblet of Fire'', the "Potter Stinks" pins are turned into a 30 second visual bit with no impact on the plot, and never really tied to Draco himself. In the book it's a year-long harassment campaign Draco is heading against Harry, and their frequency an indicator of how the school feels about Harry's performance in the tournament.
** Rowling finally gave Draco a profile on Pottermore, where she admits she does consider him to be somewhat more than a cowardly bully, especially by ''Half-Blood Prince.'' Among other things, she notes that he's a talented [[PsychicBlockDefense Occlumens]] due to his skill at suppressing his own emotions, and he does eventually learn his lesson when he [[HeelRealization realizes that]] [[BecauseYouWereNiceToMe Dumbledore, Snape, and Harry were most kind to him]]. He probably never becomes a very good person, but he manages to let go of his old prejudices, and eventually brings up his own son far better than his father did him. Not an unlikeable character, but not exactly the sex god antihero.
* Creator/JKRowling has [[WordOfGod spoken out]] against people who dare to suggest that [[BigBad Lord Voldemort]] isn't as horrible as she insists he is. Significant parts of Book 6 are meant as {{Take That}}s against those people. For example, he lived in an orphanage, all right (just like ComicStrip/LittleOrphanAnnie), but the most horrible thing in said orphanage was... [[CreepyChild himself]]. He used his magic to bully other kids and was feared both by them and by the staff. It's clear that he was never a good guy.



** The "feminist fangirls" who refer to Bellatrix as a "role model" because she [[spoiler: almost kills a young girl and then mocks her very pissed off MamaBear upon both that and the death of one of her sons. And then they bash said mother for killing their Bella]]. Never mind that Bellatrix is a {{Yandere}} who only has eyes for a man who doesn't give a damn for her, or that she's openly said that if she had kids she'd sacrifice them to Voldemort, or that [[spoiler: she was among the Death Eaters that tortured Neville Longbottom's parents into insanity]] -- she's a "super great feminist" for bashing motherhood. UnfortunateImplications, much?

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** The "feminist fangirls" who refer to Bellatrix as a "role model" because she [[spoiler: almost kills a young girl Ginny and then mocks her a very pissed off MamaBear [[MamaBear Molly Weasley]] upon both that and the death of one of her sons. And then they bash said mother Molly for killing their Bella]]. Never mind that Bellatrix is a {{Yandere}} who only has eyes for a man who doesn't give a damn for her, or that she's openly said that if she had kids kids, she'd sacrifice them to Voldemort, or that [[spoiler: she was among the Death Eaters that tortured Neville Longbottom's parents into insanity]] -- she's a "super great feminist" for bashing motherhood. UnfortunateImplications, much?



* In 2015 there was a very popular Tumblr post that got picked up by external news sites, proposing: what if, instead of Cedric Diggory, the other Hogwarts Triwizard champion was Cassius Warrington of Slytherin House, who also entered? The post imagined Warrington as an honourable and upstanding young man, who would help Harry on the Second Task the same way Cedric did, and whose death would ultimately lead to the majority of Slytherin House turning against Voldemort and crying his name as they fought in the Battle of Hogwarts. Since Warrington was basically just a name on a page, without a defined character, people were eager to turn him into the TokenGoodTeammate. However, Warrington's name does pop up again later in the series... as a member of [[TyrantTakesTheHelm Umbridge]]'s Inquisitorial Squad. Oops...

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* In 2015 2015, there was a very popular Tumblr post that got picked up by external news sites, proposing: what if, instead of Cedric Diggory, the other Hogwarts Triwizard champion was Cassius Warrington of Slytherin House, who also entered? The post imagined Warrington as an honourable and upstanding young man, who would help Harry on the Second Task the same way Cedric did, and whose death would ultimately lead to the majority of Slytherin House turning against Voldemort and crying his name as they fought in the Battle of Hogwarts. Since Warrington was basically just a name on a page, without a defined character, people were eager to turn him into the TokenGoodTeammate. However, Warrington's name does pop up again later in the series... as a member of [[TyrantTakesTheHelm Umbridge]]'s Inquisitorial Squad. Oops...



* Salazar Slytherin had a dream that one day, an adequately racist and motivated student would find the secret underground chamber he built to house a deadly basilisk and use it to mass-murder his Muggle-born classmates. And some fans would have you believe that's just dandy. Now, mind you, this one actually has sound reasoning among the supporters: Slytherin lived at least a thousand years before the series takes place, and so conceivably could have been the victim of an in-universe HistoricalVillainUpgrade. It helps that the series implies that he wasn't ''always'' a "twisted old loony". In fact, according to the Sorting Hat, he and Godric Gryffindor had once been the best of friends.

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* Salazar Slytherin had a dream that one day, an adequately racist and motivated student would find the secret underground chamber he built to house a deadly basilisk and use it to mass-murder his Muggle-born classmates. And some fans would have you believe that's just dandy. Now, mind you, this one actually has sound reasoning among the supporters: Slytherin Salazar lived at least a thousand years before the series takes place, and so conceivably could have been the victim of an in-universe HistoricalVillainUpgrade. It helps that the series implies that he wasn't ''always'' a "twisted old loony". In fact, according to the Sorting Hat, he and Godric Gryffindor [[WeUsedToBeFriends had once been the best of friends.]]



** Another (comedy) one had the falling out be over Blood ''Pudding''. After a thousand years it got twisted into Blood Purity. Turns out Salazar was a Jolly Fat man that ate way too much.
* Severus Snape gets put in leather pants[[note]][[http://img09.deviantart.net/1043/i/2011/143/d/e/severus_snape_by_starcrossedscientist-d3h2d2m.jpg And has his shirt removed]][[/note]] a ''lot'', often (but not always) by fangirls who want to know him carnally. They tend to ignore the more unpleasant parts of his character — such as joining a gang of aspiring Death Eater students[[note]]Instead he tends to get imagined as a misunderstood loner, presumably because he happened to be alone when the Marauders jumped him in the "Snape's Worst Memory" flashback[[/note]], and experimenting with the Dark Arts at a disturbingly young age (including inventing the "Sectumsempra" spell, which creates [[BodyHorror slashing wounds that don't close]]). Oh, and they also bash Lily for "not being a good friend" (aka, refusing to become Snape's ExtremeDoormat LoveMartyr), and blame ''her'' for Snape calling her "Mudblood" or even try to justify it and deny its connections to real-world racism. Anything we could say about the Snape-dom can be summed up [[http://zorm.deviantart.com/art/Canon-Vs-Fanon-Snape-34384180 here.]]

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** Another (comedy) (comedic) one had the falling out be over Blood ''Pudding''. After a thousand years years, it got twisted into Blood Purity. Turns out Salazar was a Jolly Fat man jolly fat guy that ate way too much.
* Severus Snape gets put in leather pants[[note]][[http://img09.deviantart.net/1043/i/2011/143/d/e/severus_snape_by_starcrossedscientist-d3h2d2m.jpg And has his shirt removed]][[/note]] a ''lot'', often (but not always) by fangirls who want to know him carnally. They tend to ignore the more unpleasant parts of his character — such as joining a gang of aspiring Death Eater students[[note]]Instead students[[note]]Instead, he tends to get imagined as a misunderstood loner, presumably because he happened to be alone when the Marauders jumped him in the "Snape's Worst Memory" flashback[[/note]], and experimenting with the Dark Arts at a disturbingly young age (including inventing the "Sectumsempra" spell, which creates [[BodyHorror slashing wounds that don't close]]). Oh, and they also bash Lily for "not being a good friend" (aka, refusing to become Snape's ExtremeDoormat LoveMartyr), and blame ''her'' for Snape calling her "Mudblood" or even try to justify it and deny its connections to real-world racism. Anything we could say about the Snape-dom can be summed up [[http://zorm.deviantart.com/art/Canon-Vs-Fanon-Snape-34384180 here.]]



* The [[TrueCompanions Marauders]] get this a lot. Many fans try to rationalize their repeated bullying of Snape. Never mind the fact that from the stories we hear it seemed that they always outnumbered him and that James and Sirius started it. Sirius even tried to murder Snape once using Remus' werewolf form.

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* The [[TrueCompanions Marauders]] get this a lot. Many fans try to rationalize their repeated bullying of Snape. Never mind the fact that from the stories we hear it seemed that they always outnumbered him and that James and Sirius started it. Sirius even tried to murder get Snape killed once using Remus' werewolf form. form before James intervened.



** In Russian fandom, he is considered to be so good-looking that he's normally referred to as Sexy Eater.

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** In Among his Russian fandom, he is fans, he's considered to be so good-looking that he's normally referred to as Sexy Eater.



** The crack fic ''[[http://imagine.e-fic.com/viewstory.php?sid=728 Ron's Hogwarts]]'' is somewhat successful at [=DILPing=] Umbridge. While she's still [[FantasticRacism racist,]] [[ObstructiveBureaucrat incompetent,]] and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking ugly]], she's also tutoring Ron Weasley, who in this story is [[TheDitz stupid,]] [[LazyBum lazy,]] [[ManChild immature,]] and [[EntitledBastard spoiled]] [[RonTheDeathEater beyond belief]], has failed his first year ''[[EpicFail three times in a row]],'' and is [[TheScrappy universally hated by the faculty and the entire student body.]] It gets to the point where Umbridge does the impossible and ''[[OOCIsSeriousBusiness admits that she's wrong.]]''

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** The crack fic ''[[http://imagine.e-fic.com/viewstory.php?sid=728 Ron's Hogwarts]]'' is somewhat successful at [=DILPing=] Umbridge. While she's still [[FantasticRacism [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain racist,]] [[ObstructiveBureaucrat incompetent,]] and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking ugly]], she's also tutoring Ron Weasley, who in this story is [[TheDitz stupid,]] [[LazyBum lazy,]] [[ManChild immature,]] and [[EntitledBastard spoiled]] [[RonTheDeathEater stupid, lazy, immature, and spoiled beyond belief]], [[EpicFail has failed his first year year]] ''[[EpicFail three times in a row]],'' [[RonTheDeathEater and is [[TheScrappy universally hated by the faculty and the entire student body.]] It gets to the point where Umbridge does the impossible and ''[[OOCIsSeriousBusiness admits that she's wrong.]]''
13th Sep '16 9:10:59 AM LorienTheYounger
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** Slytherin House as a whole tend to get this treatment, especially in fics where [[ForWantOfANail Harry and/or Hermione get sorted in Slytherin.]] In some cases, characterizations will remain the status quo and Harry will be the TokenGoodTeammate, but with most, [[FreudianExcuse Freudian Excuses]] get passed around left and right.

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** * In 2015 there was a very popular Tumblr post that got picked up by external news sites, proposing: what if, instead of Cedric Diggory, the other Hogwarts Triwizard champion was Cassius Warrington of Slytherin House, who also entered? The post imagined Warrington as an honourable and upstanding young man, who would help Harry on the Second Task the same way Cedric did, and whose death would ultimately lead to the majority of Slytherin House turning against Voldemort and crying his name as they fought in the Battle of Hogwarts. Since Warrington was basically just a name on a page, without a defined character, people were eager to turn him into the TokenGoodTeammate. However, Warrington's name does pop up again later in the series... as a member of [[TyrantTakesTheHelm Umbridge]]'s Inquisitorial Squad. Oops...
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Slytherin House as a whole tend to get this treatment, especially in fics where [[ForWantOfANail Harry and/or Hermione get sorted in Slytherin.]] In some cases, characterizations will remain the status quo and Harry will be the TokenGoodTeammate, but with most, [[FreudianExcuse Freudian Excuses]] get passed around left and right.
13th Sep '16 8:59:08 AM LorienTheYounger
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* Severus Snape gets put in leather pants[[note]][[http://img09.deviantart.net/1043/i/2011/143/d/e/severus_snape_by_starcrossedscientist-d3h2d2m.jpg And has his shirt removed]][[/note]] a ''lot'', by fangirls who want to know him carnally. They tend to ignore the more unpleasant parts of his character — such as joining a gang of aspiring Death Eater students[[note]]Instead he tends to get imagined as a misunderstood loner, presumably because he happened to be alone when the Marauders jumped him in the "Snape's Worst Memory" flashback[[/note]], and experimenting with the Dark Arts at a disturbingly young age (including inventing the "Sectumsempra" spell, which creates [[BodyHorror slashing wounds that don't close]]). Oh, and they also bash Lily for "not being a good friend" (aka, refusing to become Snape's ExtremeDoormat LoveMartyr), and blame ''her'' for Snape calling her "Mudblood" or even try to justify it and deny its connections to real-world racism. Anything we could say about the Snape-dom can be summed up [[http://zorm.deviantart.com/art/Canon-Vs-Fanon-Snape-34384180 here.]]

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* Severus Snape gets put in leather pants[[note]][[http://img09.deviantart.net/1043/i/2011/143/d/e/severus_snape_by_starcrossedscientist-d3h2d2m.jpg And has his shirt removed]][[/note]] a ''lot'', often (but not always) by fangirls who want to know him carnally. They tend to ignore the more unpleasant parts of his character — such as joining a gang of aspiring Death Eater students[[note]]Instead he tends to get imagined as a misunderstood loner, presumably because he happened to be alone when the Marauders jumped him in the "Snape's Worst Memory" flashback[[/note]], and experimenting with the Dark Arts at a disturbingly young age (including inventing the "Sectumsempra" spell, which creates [[BodyHorror slashing wounds that don't close]]). Oh, and they also bash Lily for "not being a good friend" (aka, refusing to become Snape's ExtremeDoormat LoveMartyr), and blame ''her'' for Snape calling her "Mudblood" or even try to justify it and deny its connections to real-world racism. Anything we could say about the Snape-dom can be summed up [[http://zorm.deviantart.com/art/Canon-Vs-Fanon-Snape-34384180 here.]]
13th Sep '16 8:57:34 AM LorienTheYounger
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* Severus Snape gets put in leather pants[[note]][[http://img09.deviantart.net/1043/i/2011/143/d/e/severus_snape_by_starcrossedscientist-d3h2d2m.jpg And has his shirt removed]][[/note]] a ''lot'' by fangirls. There are the ones who want to know him carnally, and ''then'' there's the fans who have blamed Lily for Snape calling her "Mudblood", or even tried to justify it and deny its connections to real-world racism. Oh, and they also bash ''Lily'' for "not being a good friend" (aka, refusing to become Snape's ExtremeDoormat LoveMartyr) to the guy who called her a racist epithet. Anything we could say about the Snape-dom can be summed up [[http://zorm.deviantart.com/art/Canon-Vs-Fanon-Snape-34384180 here.]]

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* Severus Snape gets put in leather pants[[note]][[http://img09.deviantart.net/1043/i/2011/143/d/e/severus_snape_by_starcrossedscientist-d3h2d2m.jpg And has his shirt removed]][[/note]] a ''lot'' ''lot'', by fangirls. There are the ones fangirls who want to know him carnally, carnally. They tend to ignore the more unpleasant parts of his character — such as joining a gang of aspiring Death Eater students[[note]]Instead he tends to get imagined as a misunderstood loner, presumably because he happened to be alone when the Marauders jumped him in the "Snape's Worst Memory" flashback[[/note]], and ''then'' there's experimenting with the fans who have blamed Lily for Snape calling her "Mudblood", or even tried to justify it and deny its connections to real-world racism. Dark Arts at a disturbingly young age (including inventing the "Sectumsempra" spell, which creates [[BodyHorror slashing wounds that don't close]]). Oh, and they also bash ''Lily'' Lily for "not being a good friend" (aka, refusing to become Snape's ExtremeDoormat LoveMartyr) to the guy who called LoveMartyr), and blame ''her'' for Snape calling her a racist epithet."Mudblood" or even try to justify it and deny its connections to real-world racism. Anything we could say about the Snape-dom can be summed up [[http://zorm.deviantart.com/art/Canon-Vs-Fanon-Snape-34384180 here.]]
2nd Aug '16 2:05:06 AM Mitis
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* Salazar Slytherin had a dream that one day, an adequately racist and motivated student would find the secret underground chamber he built to house a deadly basilisk and use it to mass-murder his Muggle-born classmates. And some fans would have you believe that's just dandy. Now, mind you, this one actually has sound reasoning among the supporters: Slytherin lived at least a thousand years before the series takes place and, conceivably could have been the victim of an in-universe HistoricalVillainUpgrade. It helps that the series implies that he wasn't ''always'' a "twisted old loony". In fact, according to the Sorting Hat, he and Godric Gryffindor had once been the best of friends.

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* Salazar Slytherin had a dream that one day, an adequately racist and motivated student would find the secret underground chamber he built to house a deadly basilisk and use it to mass-murder his Muggle-born classmates. And some fans would have you believe that's just dandy. Now, mind you, this one actually has sound reasoning among the supporters: Slytherin lived at least a thousand years before the series takes place and, place, and so conceivably could have been the victim of an in-universe HistoricalVillainUpgrade. It helps that the series implies that he wasn't ''always'' a "twisted old loony". In fact, according to the Sorting Hat, he and Godric Gryffindor had once been the best of friends.
2nd Aug '16 2:02:18 AM Mitis
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** The in-universe reason for this is sound, but horrifying. In ''Order of the Phoenix'', dementors attacked Harry and Dudley, and afterwards, Harry wondered what Dudley, who had had everything that he had ever wanted for his whole life, could have possibly seen when the dementors drew near. The answer, by WordOfGod: Dudley saw himself. As in, [[HeelRealization he saw that he was an obese, spoiled, and all-around horrible bully.]]
2nd Aug '16 1:56:01 AM Mitis
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* Salazar Slytherin had a dream that one day, an adequately racist and motivated student would find the secret underground chamber he built to house a deadly basilisk and use it to mass-murder his Muggle-born classmates. And some fans would have you believe that's just dandy. (This one has actually been done well in some cases -- Slytherin lived at least a thousand years before the series takes place and conceivably could have been the victim of an in-universe HistoricalVillainUpgrade.) It helps that the series implies that he wasn't ''always'' a "twisted old loony". In fact, according to the Sorting Hat, he and Godric Gryffindor had once been the best of friends.

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* Salazar Slytherin had a dream that one day, an adequately racist and motivated student would find the secret underground chamber he built to house a deadly basilisk and use it to mass-murder his Muggle-born classmates. And some fans would have you believe that's just dandy. (This Now, mind you, this one has actually been done well in some cases -- has sound reasoning among the supporters: Slytherin lived at least a thousand years before the series takes place and and, conceivably could have been the victim of an in-universe HistoricalVillainUpgrade.) HistoricalVillainUpgrade. It helps that the series implies that he wasn't ''always'' a "twisted old loony". In fact, according to the Sorting Hat, he and Godric Gryffindor had once been the best of friends.
27th Jul '16 11:35:02 AM Mitis
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* Horrifyingly enough, a small but vocal part of the Website/{{Tumblr}} fandom (presumably a subgroup of Bellatrix's "feminist" fangirls) will gladly minimize ''[[TyrantTakesTheHelm DOLORES]] [[SadistTeacher UMBRIDGE'S]]'' crimes, claiming that the only reason she's more hated than Voldemort is because she's a woman in power. Fortunately, seeing as the fandom, the characters and ''the author'' universally despise Umbridge, there are entire essays in response to these fans, explaining in detail exactly why people hate Umbridge more than Voldemort; not because of her gender, but because she's an amalgamation of all the worst authority figures you'll ever meet in your life, and a much more realistic villain than Voldemort. (Also, [[Series/GameOfThrones Joffrey Baratheon, Ramsay Bolton,]] and [[Manga/FullmetalAlchemist Shou Tucker]] are at least as hated as Umbridge, and they're male.)

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* Horrifyingly enough, a small but vocal part of the Website/{{Tumblr}} fandom (presumably a subgroup of Bellatrix's "feminist" fangirls) will gladly minimize ''[[TyrantTakesTheHelm DOLORES]] [[SadistTeacher UMBRIDGE'S]]'' crimes, claiming that the only reason she's more hated than Voldemort is because she's a woman in power. Fortunately, seeing as the fandom, the characters and ''the author'' universally despise Umbridge, there are entire essays in response to these fans, explaining in detail exactly why people hate Umbridge more than Voldemort; not because of her gender, but because she's an amalgamation of all the worst authority figures you'll ever meet in your life, and a much more realistic villain than Voldemort. (Also, [[Series/GameOfThrones Joffrey Baratheon, Ramsay Bolton,]] and [[Manga/FullmetalAlchemist Shou Tucker]] are at least as hated as Umbridge, and they're male.)) In fact, Rowling's biography of the woman reveals quite plainly that, like Voldemort, she was rotten to the core from her childhood.
15th Jul '16 10:23:43 AM mattthelurker
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*** Also like Draco, the films remove many of Snape's worse moments (such as his threat to poison Neville's toad and his calling Lily a [[FantasticSlur Mudblood]]) and add in scenes designed to make him more sympathetic (such as the scene of him [[spoiler:crying over Lily's corpse]] in ''Deathly Hallows''.)
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