History DownerEnding / AnimeAndManga

13th Apr '17 7:35:56 AM Larkmarn
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* ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundam0080WarInThePocket Gundam 0080: War in the Pocket]]''. At the end, Al's friend Bernie attempted to fight and destroy the Federation's latest HumongousMecha, the Gundam NT-1, or risk having the peaceful Space Colony nuked. Except that he was himself using a damaged grunt unit. And the pilot of NT-1 was Chris, Al's neighbor who's attracted to Bernie (the feeling is mutual). The two dueled until Bernie was killed and Chris gravely injured. In front of Al. ''After Al found out the nuke carrier had been stopped and rushed to tell Bernie.'' And then Chris asked Al about his "cousin" Bernie...
** What drives it further down is the last scene. Al is sitting in his classroom where his friends, with whom he was so ethusiastic about mobile suits at the beginning, are still discussing war and mobile suits. Al finally snaps and starts crying. One of his friends tries to cheer him up stating: "Don't worry, there will be another war!" thinking Al is saddened over the "cool" battles being over. Al is alone in understanding that mobile suits are war machines piloted by other people, who if not for the war might as well be friends. What makes this line even worse is that his friend is right. There will be other wars and they will be just as terrible.
* ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam0083StardustMemory'' - Gato and Delaz are killed, but ultimately TheBadGuyWins. Kou lost his beloved HotScientist, and is courtmartialed for stealing the GP-03 after the GP-01's destruction, though released later. Captain Synapse commits suicide in order to take responsibility for the above. The Titans, who most of the Albion crew join, are formed, and we all know how well that turned out. The good guys have effectively lost, and moreover their PyrrhicVictory sets the stage for an even bloodier war and all their attempts to help just sets the stage for a worse organization.



* ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundam0080WarInThePocket Gundam 0080: War in the Pocket]]''. At the end, Al's friend Bernie attempted to fight and destroy the Federation's latest HumongousMecha, the Gundam NT-1, or risk having the peaceful Space Colony nuked. Except that he was himself using a damaged grunt unit. And the pilot of NT-1 was Chris, Al's neighbor who's attracted to Bernie (the feeling is mutual). The two dueled until Bernie was killed and Chris gravely injured. In front of Al. ''After Al found out the nuke carrier had been stopped and rushed to tell Bernie.'' And then Chris asked Al about his "cousin" Bernie...
** What drives it further down is the last scene. Al is sitting in his classroom where his friends, with whom he was so ethusiastic about mobile suits at the beginning, are still discussing war and mobile suits. Al finally snaps and starts crying. One of his friends tries to cheer him up stating: "Don't worry, there will be another war!" thinking Al is saddened over the "cool" battles being over. Al is alone in understanding that mobile suits are war machines piloted by other people, who if not for the war might as well be friends. What makes this line even worse is that his friend is right. There will be other wars and they will be just as terrible.



* ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam0083StardustMemory'' - Gato and Delaz are killed, but ultimately TheBadGuyWins. Kou lost his beloved HotScientist, and is courtmartialed for stealing the GP-03 after the GP-01's destruction, though released later. Captain Synapse commits suicide in order to take responsibility for the above. The Titans, who most of the Albion crew join, are formed, and we all know how well that turned out. This is Gundam, after all.
18th Mar '17 1:13:37 PM Dravencour
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** As for ''Violence Jack''. It turns out that the title character is Devilman Reborn, the main bad guy is created to TORTURE SATAN, created by Satan himself, and it ends with Satan and Devilman getting ready for round 2.

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** As for ''Violence Jack''.''Manga/ViolenceJack''. It turns out that the title character is Devilman Reborn, the main bad guy is created to TORTURE SATAN, created by Satan himself, and it ends with Satan and Devilman getting ready for round 2.
18th Mar '17 1:13:17 PM Dravencour
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* A rule of {{hentai}} is that if it isn't a romance or comedy, it will be depressing to the viewers. The following is spoilered due to squick. [[SchmuckBait You have been warned.]] [[spoiler:''Inyouchuu The Animation'' has the heroine and her friends captured by the Lord of Nightmares. Her friend and love interest try to save everyone but is captured and beaten to a pulp. The heroine offers her body to the Lord of Nightmares, to save her friend and give him an opening to kill the villain. At the end of the episode, the love interest finally recovers and charges the Lord of Nightmares using ThePowerOfLove to fuel him... only to be killed and reduced to green ash/gunk. The heroine says that she had given herself up shortly after offering her body to him, because her friend would not get up to save her. The anime ends with her saying she barely remembers his face, as the flames finally die down.]] Whether or not this is worse then the manga is up for debate.

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* A rule of {{hentai}} {{Hentai}} is that if it isn't it's not a romance or comedy, it will be depressing to the viewers. The following is spoilered due to squick. [[SchmuckBait You have been warned.]] [[spoiler:''Inyouchuu The Animation'' has the heroine and her friends captured by the Lord of Nightmares. Her friend and love interest try to save everyone but is captured and beaten to a pulp. The heroine offers her body to the Lord of Nightmares, to save her friend and give him an opening to kill the villain. At the end of the episode, the love interest finally recovers and charges the Lord of Nightmares using ThePowerOfLove to fuel him... only to be killed and reduced to green ash/gunk. The heroine says that she had given herself up shortly after offering her body to him, because her friend would not get up to save her. The anime ends with her saying she barely remembers his face, as the flames finally die down.]] Whether or not this is worse then the manga is up for debate.



** or remains straight if you factor in the lyrics and dialog at that part, and that video's [[http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=5836 title (NSFW)]]

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** or Or remains straight if you factor in the lyrics and dialog at that part, and that video's [[http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=5836 title (NSFW)]]



** Despite the large number of deaths among named characters only one unnamed Government {{mooks}} is killed, though the rest are injured. As the remaining mooks are put in a raft and dropped into the sea it's unknown it they survive.
* Surprisingly, or not, as the case may be, the manga version of the final battle against Chaos in ''Manga/SailorMoon'', in which the main character has the choice of either [[spoiler:destroying Chaos utterly and the Cauldron with it, thus dooming the universe to a slow extinction, if a new Cauldron doesn't pop up somewhere else, meaning a new powerful enemy appearing causing hundreds of billions of being to be killed in the ensuing fight, or just 'momentarily' delaying the ultimate evils return resulting in a massive battle...in which hundreds of billions of people will die anyway, but might end up being reborn because the Cauldron is still there.]] Guess which option she chooses?

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** Despite the large number of deaths among named characters only one unnamed Government {{mooks}} {{mook|s}} is killed, though the rest are injured. As the remaining mooks are put in a raft and dropped into the sea it's unknown it if they survive.
* Surprisingly, or not, as the case may be, the manga version of the final battle against Chaos in ''Manga/SailorMoon'', in which the main character has the choice of either [[spoiler:destroying Chaos utterly and the Cauldron with it, thus dooming the universe to a slow extinction, if a new Cauldron doesn't pop up somewhere else, meaning a new powerful enemy appearing causing hundreds of billions of being beings to be killed in the ensuing fight, or just 'momentarily' delaying the ultimate evils evil's return resulting in a massive battle...in which hundreds of billions of people will die anyway, but might end up being reborn because the Cauldron is still there.]] Guess which option she chooses?
9th Feb '17 6:37:13 PM Puterboy1
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* The ending of ''Anime/RingingBell'' (or The Ringing Bell, as it's known in English) is the story of a lamb who is out to avenge the death of his mother, who was killed by a wolf. After realizing he can't kill the wolf in the state he's currently in, he offers to become the wolf's apprentice. After many years of training Chirin is now an adult, very rugged and disfigured with many battle scars, and the wolf decides to bring him to the farm where he grew up to kill a sheep and bring it back to him. Once he kills the guard dogs, he makes his way into the barn, chooses a sheep and charges - but he realizes that he can't bring himself to do it, because she has a lamb with her. He leaves, but the wolf confronts him. Chirin stabs the wolf with his misshapen horns, and the wolf congratulates him on succeeding with his goal before dying. Chirin decides to go back to live on the farm, but the other sheep are afraid of him. He realizes that without the wolf he no longer serves a purpose, as the sheep won't accept him and the wolf he has grown to love as a father figure is dead, so he goes back to the mountains where the wolf lived, during a blizzard. He is never heard from again and is presumed to have died; but he, or at least his ghost, was rumored to have visited the valley, as the sheep heard the ringing of a little bell that was never removed from his neck.

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* Author Takashi Yanase seemed to have been a big fan of this trope, mostly in the anime adaptations of his stand-alone works.
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The ending of his adaptation of ''Anime/RingingBell'' (or The Ringing Chirin's Bell, as it's known in English) Japanese) is the story of a lamb who is out to avenge the death of his mother, who was killed by a wolf. After realizing he can't kill the wolf in the state he's currently in, he offers to become the wolf's apprentice. After many years of training Chirin is now an adult, very rugged and disfigured with many battle scars, and the wolf decides to bring him to the farm where he grew up to kill a sheep and bring it back to him. Once he kills the guard dogs, he makes his way into the barn, chooses a sheep and charges - but he realizes that he can't bring himself to do it, because she has a lamb with her. He leaves, but the wolf confronts him. Chirin stabs the wolf with his misshapen horns, and the wolf congratulates him on succeeding with his goal before dying. Chirin decides to go back to live on the farm, but the other sheep are afraid of him. He realizes that without the wolf he no longer serves a purpose, as the sheep won't accept him and the wolf he has grown to love as a father figure is dead, so he goes back to the mountains where the wolf lived, during a blizzard. He is never heard from again and is presumed to have died; but he, or at least his ghost, was rumored to have visited the valley, as the sheep heard the ringing of a little bell that was never removed from his neck.neck.
** ''The Gentle Lion'' ends with an escaped lion and his mother (a dog) being killed by an army.
28th Jan '17 1:21:10 AM GentlemensDame883
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* ''Anime/FiveCentimetersPerSecond'' had the two lead characters meeting by chance in school and quickly falling in love with each other. However, since their parents' jobs require them to move a lot, they quickly lose contact with each other (the anime is set in the 1990s, where cell phones and e-mail are not as widespread as today). Both characters basically never see each other again, which causes a great deal of emotional pain to both of them. The film ends with a TearJerker montage of how they both move on with their lives. What makes it even worse is when the film teases the audience by having the two leads pass each other on a railroad crossing, but neither recognizes the other until it is too late, and a passing train separates them.

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* ''Anime/FiveCentimetersPerSecond'' had the two lead characters meeting by chance in school and quickly falling in love with each other. However, since their parents' jobs require them to move a lot, they quickly lose contact with each other (the anime is set in the 1990s, where cell phones and e-mail are not as widespread as today). Both characters basically never see each other again, which causes a great deal of emotional pain to both of them. The film ends with a TearJerker montage of how they both move on with their lives. What makes it even worse is when the film teases the audience by having the two leads pass each other on a railroad crossing, but neither recognizes the other until it is too late, and a passing train separates them. By the time the train passes, the female lead is gone.
20th Jan '17 8:46:15 PM jormis29
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* Another Franchise/{{Gundam}} example in the novel, ''Hathaway's Flash'', where Mafty Navilles Erin (aka Hathaway Noa) is captured in the end and was sentenced to death by Bright Noa, who had no idea it was his own son he was executing. Ouch.

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* Another Franchise/{{Gundam}} example in the novel, ''Hathaway's Flash'', ''[[Literature/MobileSuitGundamHathawaysFlash Hathaway's Flash]]'', where Mafty Navilles Erin (aka Hathaway Noa) is captured in the end and was sentenced to death by Bright Noa, who had no idea it was his own son he was executing. Ouch.
7th Jan '17 7:35:51 AM WildKatGirl
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* ''VideoGame/Gungrave"'s anime is a change up from the first game's ending which had ended with [[spoiler:Grave getting his revenge and riding off into the sunset with Mika, keeping her safe]]. Instead Grave makes peace with Harry...after both have been shot full of holes by Millennion foot soldiers despite being ordered to stop thanks to Mika. The show ends with Grave and Harry killing each other right before Mika arrives to find them dead and cries while finding it in her to smile at her friend's fate. Oh and the song that plays? It's called "Happy Ending."

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* ''VideoGame/Gungrave"'s ''{{VideoGame/Gungrave}}'''s anime is a change up from the first game's ending which had ended with [[spoiler:Grave getting his revenge and riding off into the sunset with Mika, keeping her safe]]. Instead Grave makes peace with Harry...after both have been shot full of holes by Millennion foot soldiers despite being ordered to stop thanks to Mika. The show ends with Grave and Harry killing each other right before Mika arrives to find them dead and cries while finding it in her to smile at her friend's fate. Oh and the song that plays? It's called "Happy Ending."
14th Dec '16 8:40:58 PM 43110
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* The ending of ''Side:Despair'' in ''Anime/DanganRonpa3''--it even warns you at the beginning "this is a tale of hope that ends in despair". In short, ''[[BigBad Junko wins]]''--Class 77-B is brainwashed into being her minions, Chiaki is brutally tortured to death, Chisa is brainwashed and sent as TheMole to the Future Foundation, where she will seed dissent and push her boyfriend into insanity, and Ryota is a broken, guilt-ridden wreck. The only sliver of hope is that Izuru has turned on Junko out of anger for what she did to Chiaki, and his plotting against her eventually leads to ''VisualNovel/SuperDanganRonpa2'' and ''Side:Hope''.

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* The ending of ''Side:Despair'' in ''Anime/DanganRonpa3''--it even warns you at the beginning "this is a tale of hope that ends in despair". In short, ''[[BigBad ''[[TheBadGuyWins Junko wins]]''--Class 77-B is brainwashed into being her minions, Chiaki is brutally tortured to death, Chisa is brainwashed and sent as TheMole to the Future Foundation, where she will seed dissent and push her boyfriend into insanity, and Ryota is a broken, guilt-ridden wreck. The only sliver of hope is that Izuru has turned on Junko out of anger for what she did to Chiaki, and his plotting against her eventually leads to ''VisualNovel/SuperDanganRonpa2'' and ''Side:Hope''.
27th Nov '16 7:06:33 AM Apocrypha
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* The ending of ''Side:Despair'' in ''Anime/DanganRonpa3''--it even warns you at the beginning "this is a tale of hope that ends in despair". In short, ''[[BigBad Junko wins]]''--Class 77-B is brainwashed into being her minions, Chiaki is brutally tortured to death, Chisa is brainwashed and sent as TheMole to the Future Foundation, where she will seed dissent and push her boyfriend into insanity, and Ryota is a broken, guilt-ridden wreck. The only sliver of hope is that Izuru has turned on Junko out of anger for what she did to Chiaki, and his plotting against her eventually leads to ''VisualNovel/SuperDanganRonpa2'' and ''Side:Hope''.
14th Nov '16 9:35:01 PM VincentX
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* ''Anime/Gungrave" is a change up from the first game's ending which had ended with [[spoiler:Grave getting his revenge and riding off into the sunset with Mika, keeping her safe]]. Instead Grave makes peace with Harry...after both have been shot full of holes by Millennion foot soldiers despite being ordered to stop thanks to Mika. The show ends with Grave and Harry killing each other right before Mika arrives to find them dead and cries while finding it in her to smile at her friend's fate. Oh and the song that plays? It's called "Happy Ending."

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* ''Anime/Gungrave" ''VideoGame/Gungrave"'s anime is a change up from the first game's ending which had ended with [[spoiler:Grave getting his revenge and riding off into the sunset with Mika, keeping her safe]]. Instead Grave makes peace with Harry...after both have been shot full of holes by Millennion foot soldiers despite being ordered to stop thanks to Mika. The show ends with Grave and Harry killing each other right before Mika arrives to find them dead and cries while finding it in her to smile at her friend's fate. Oh and the song that plays? It's called "Happy Ending."
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