History DorkAge / TelevisionNetworks

30th Nov '16 7:10:50 AM FromtheWordsofBR
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** Over half of the channel's timeslots were filled with reruns of ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants''. They put out poorly-made live-action shows that made the ''Disney Channel'' look like a bastion of quality programming though most agree that ''Series/{{ICarly}}'' at least was good. They gave WebVideo/{{Fred}} three poorly-received movies and a show that didn't even get a second season. They regularly rejected quality pilots from talented creators, including turning down the chance to make ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' into a full series, which was later picked up by Cartoon Network and went on to become a huge success. They regularly cancelled or ignored other good shows they have, yet gave multiple seasons to ''WesternAnimation/FanboyAndChumChum''. And they now trawl Website/YouTube for show ideas, like ''WesternAnimation/{{Breadwinners}}''. It also didn't help that they gained a reputation for relegating any new animated shows they received to Nicktoons Network, usually after only a month or two of their premiere on Nickelodeon. They repeatedly showed themselves to be out of touch with what audiences were interested at the time, (compared to rival networks Disney XD and Cartoon Network) resulting in many of their new shows being criticized for lacking substance in comparison to animated shows on said rival networks. During several points in this period, Nickelodeon's ratings plummeted to lows that hadn't been seen on the network since the early 80s.
** The Dork Age affected their treatment of ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender''. The original show was a phenomenon, raking in views across all demographic groups and bringing in rave reviews and huge ratings for the network, to the point where they planned a movie adaptation for a show less than a decade old (though the less said about ''that'', the better). So how many episodes did Nickelodeon order for its sequel series ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' initially? '''Twelve'''. Then, after the show proved to be successful, they ordered three more seasons... and proceeded to delay it time and time again until September 2013. And then they booted it to the network's website in 2014.

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** Over half of the channel's timeslots were filled with reruns of ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants''. They put started putting out poorly-made live-action shows that made the ''Disney Channel'' look like a bastion of quality programming though most agree that ''Series/{{ICarly}}'' at least was good. They gave WebVideo/{{Fred}} three poorly-received movies and a show that didn't even get a second season. They regularly rejected quality pilots from talented creators, including turning down the chance to make ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' into a full series, which was later picked up by Cartoon Network and went on to become a huge success. They regularly cancelled or ignored other good shows they have, yet gave multiple seasons to ''WesternAnimation/FanboyAndChumChum''. And they now trawl Website/YouTube for show ideas, like ''WesternAnimation/{{Breadwinners}}''. It also didn't help that they gained a nasty reputation for relegating any new animated shows they received to Nicktoons Network, usually after only a month or two of their premiere on Nickelodeon. They repeatedly showed themselves to be out of touch with what audiences were interested at the time, (compared to rival networks Disney XD and Cartoon Network) resulting in many of their new shows being criticized for lacking substance in comparison to animated shows on said rival networks. During several points in this period, Nickelodeon's ratings plummeted to lows that hadn't been seen on the network since the early 80s.
** The Dork Age affected their treatment of ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender''. The original show was a phenomenon, raking in views across all demographic groups and bringing in rave reviews and huge ratings for the network, to the point where they planned a movie adaptation for a show less than a decade old (though the less said about ''that'', ''[[Film/TheLastAirbender that]]'', the better). So how many episodes did Nickelodeon order for its sequel series ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' initially? '''Twelve'''. '''Twelve.''' Then, after the show proved to be successful, they ordered three more seasons... seasons...and proceeded to delay it time and time again until September 2013. And then they booted it to the network's website in 2014.


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** Starting in 2015, Nickelodeon started boosting the reputation of their animation department again with the debuts of the acclaimed ''WesternAnimation/HarveyBeaks'' and the outright smash hit ''WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse''. However, major controversy eventually brewed over the [[ScrewedByTheNetwork massive amounts of screwing over]] the network were dealing to the former series. C.H. Greenblatt revealed that the network ''forced him to apologize'' on a Cartoon Brew article where he stated his displeasure with the treatment his show was receiving, as well as the fact he didn't even know his show was being booted off to Nicktoons Network until a co-worker posted about it on Twitter.
25th Oct '16 5:50:58 PM OnGreenDolphinStreet
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* Creator/{{CBS}} went through a bad decade in TheNineties. For much of TheEighties, its shows had skewed much older than its competitors ABC, NBC, and (starting in 1987) Fox meaning that, while it was pulling in huge ratings from seniors and retirees with shows like ''Series/{{Dallas}}'' and ''Series/MurderSheWrote'', it wasn't hitting the lucrative 18-49 demographic that advertisers crave.[[note]] Interestingly, CBS had gone through this exact same problem about twenty years earlier, though Madison Avenue demography was not nearly as advanced or all-consuming back then. In the late-60's, CBS had a trio of rural-themed shows ''Series/TheBeverlyHillbillies'', ''Series/GreenAcres'', and ''Series/PetticoatJunction'' that got excellent ratings but that the suits considered "too old" and "too Country" for a modern network. So all three shows were cancelled and replaced with much less popular shows that no one remembers.[[/note]] This earned it the nickname "the network of the living dead", and by the early '90s [[{{Foreshadowing}} they were relying on their weekend sports coverage to stay in the black]].\\

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* Creator/{{CBS}} went through a bad decade in TheNineties. For much of TheEighties, its shows had skewed much older than its competitors ABC, NBC, and (starting in 1987) Fox meaning that, while it was pulling in huge ratings from seniors and retirees with shows like ''Series/{{Dallas}}'' and ''Series/MurderSheWrote'', it wasn't hitting the lucrative 18-49 demographic that advertisers crave.[[note]] Interestingly, [[note]](Interestingly, CBS had gone went through this exact the same problem about twenty years earlier, though Madison Avenue demography was not nearly as advanced or all-consuming back then. In the late-60's, CBS had a trio of rural-themed shows ''Series/TheBeverlyHillbillies'', ''Series/GreenAcres'', and ''Series/PetticoatJunction'' that got excellent ratings but that the suits considered "too old" and "too Country" for a modern network. So all three shows were cancelled and replaced two decades ago, which it resolved with much less popular shows that no one remembers.[[/note]] UsefulNotes/TheRuralPurge.)[[/note]] This earned it the nickname "the network of the living dead", and by the early '90s [[{{Foreshadowing}} they were relying on their weekend sports coverage to stay in the black]].\\
5th Oct '16 3:15:41 PM TheRedRedKroovy
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Fortunately for NBC, in 1981 they ousted Silverman and brought in Grant Tinker (co-founder of MTM Enterprises) as the new chairman and CEO, and put Brandon Tartikoff in charge of programming duties. Together, despite a few false starts, Tinker and Tartikoff oversaw the beginning of a golden age for NBC that would last for nearly two decades, with the network dominating the ratings and, in particular, being responsible for many of the great American {{sitcom}}s of TheEighties and TheNineties.
** Alas, those two decades eventually came to an end. Tartikoff died unexpectedly in 1997, but many of the hit shows he greenlit continued for years after. Following the end of ''Series/{{Frasier}}'' and ''Series/{{Friends}}'', two of the network's last big sitcom hits, in 2004, NBC slipped from first to fourth as its new shows either failed to catch on or experienced {{Second Season Downfall}}s, and most of its attempts to make a {{reality TV}} hit like ''Series/{{Survivor}}'' or ''Series/AmericanIdol'' turned out to be failures. Its Thursday night comedy block was one of its few points of consistent acclaim, and even then, shows like ''Series/{{Community}}'' and ''Series/ThirtyRock'' struggled in the ratings.\\

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Fortunately for NBC, in 1981 they ousted Silverman and brought in Grant Tinker (co-founder of MTM Enterprises) as the new chairman and CEO, and put Brandon Tartikoff in charge of programming duties. Together, despite a few false starts, Tinker and Tartikoff oversaw the beginning of a golden age for NBC that would last for nearly two decades, with the network dominating the ratings and, in particular, being responsible for many of the great American {{sitcom}}s of TheEighties and TheNineties.
TheNineties. When General Electric bought out RCA in 1986, it was mainly to acquire NBC, which by then was one of the last profitable divisions of a company that was otherwise circling the drain.
** Alas, those two decades eventually came to an end. Tartikoff died unexpectedly in 1997, but many of the hit shows he greenlit continued for years after. Following However, following the end of ''Series/{{Frasier}}'' and ''Series/{{Friends}}'', two of the network's last big sitcom hits, in 2004, NBC slipped from first to fourth as its new shows either failed to catch on or experienced {{Second Season Downfall}}s, and most of its attempts to make a {{reality TV}} hit like ''Series/{{Survivor}}'' or ''Series/AmericanIdol'' turned out to be failures. Its Thursday night comedy block was one of its few points of consistent acclaim, and even then, shows like ''Series/{{Community}}'' and ''Series/ThirtyRock'' struggled in the ratings.\\
30th Sep '16 4:53:12 PM MyFinalEdits
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** In general, the tenure of Stuart Snyder is seen as one - not only was he the primary pusher towards live-action shows that unilaterally bombed, but he was also directly linked to getting several shows ScrewedByTheNetwork, the total demolition of action-oriented shows, mistreatment and alienation of content producers, eroding relationships with DC, and overall doing everything possible to destroy viewer interest. His tenure did see a number of good shows, but consensus is that they succeeded in spite of him.
** Not even Creator/{{Toonami}} was immune to the DorkAge. The TOM 4 era was hated by a lot of fans for the [[UncannyValley TOM's]] [[YouDontLookLikeYou redesign]], and for things like the Absolution and [[SpaceshipGirl SARA]] being [[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome dropped without any indication of a reason]]. The general [[ScrewedByTheNetwork screwing]] of multiple shows reducing the block to nothing but reruns and ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' led many to suspect ExecutiveMeddling, especially given that this happened in 2007, after the [[WesternAnimation/AquaTeenHungerForce Mooninite]] [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom bomb scare]] in Boston and the resulting management shake-ups at Creator/CartoonNetwork. Of course, then the block [[ScrewedByTheNetwork got taken]] [[{{Cancellation}} off]], and [[AlasPoorScrappy people mourned its passing]], no matter what they'd thought about the {{retool}}... But when Toonami [[UnCanceled came]] [[NetworkToTheRescue back]], [[CanonDiscontinuity it was with an updated version of the previous, well-liked TOM 3, with the Absolution back in space, and with no mention of the last few years of the original run]].
*** The TOM 4 era did indeed happen, as evidenced by [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CNClh_bMek TOM 3.5 holding a conversation with TOM 4]] and alluding to... whatever it is that they've been up to since their "break." It's presumably a matter of getting the funding to properly tell said story ([[http://toonami.tumblr.com/post/45044747329/so-since-you-got-the-money-for-a-new-tom-might-we-have which they plan on presenting in the form of an online comic]]). At any rate, Toonami is primarily focusing on the nostalgia of the pre-TOM 4 years, as evidenced by a switch/upgrade to TOM 5 (who resembles a sort of intermediate stage between [=TOMs=] 2 and 3) in April 2013, which coincided with [[TheBusCameBack the return of SARA]].
* A lot of sports fans consider Creator/{{ESPN}} to be in one now, especially with its flagship program ''Series/SportsCenter''. The sports news show rose to great popularity in TheNineties due to its charismatic anchors that could deliver scores and highlights with a touch of witty banter. More recently, though, the show seems to be more focused on trumpeting its hosts over the games they're supposed to be reporting on through endless "analysis" segments that last way too long for many viewers. What's more, the hosts they have now, like Skip Bayless and Stephen A Smith, come off as too egotistical and annoying in the eyes of many.\\

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** In general, the tenure of Stuart Snyder is seen as one - not only was he the primary pusher towards live-action shows that unilaterally bombed, but he was also directly linked to getting several shows ScrewedByTheNetwork, the total demolition of action-oriented shows, mistreatment and alienation of content producers, eroding relationships with DC, and overall doing everything possible to destroy viewer interest. His tenure did see a number of good shows, but consensus is that they succeeded in spite of him, not thanks to him.
** Not even Creator/{{Toonami}} was immune to the DorkAge.immune. The TOM 4 era was hated by a lot of fans for the [[UncannyValley TOM's]] [[YouDontLookLikeYou redesign]], and for things like the Absolution and [[SpaceshipGirl SARA]] being [[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome dropped without any indication of a reason]]. The general [[ScrewedByTheNetwork screwing]] of multiple shows reducing the block to nothing but reruns and ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' led many to suspect ExecutiveMeddling, especially given that this happened in 2007, after the [[WesternAnimation/AquaTeenHungerForce Mooninite]] [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom bomb scare]] in Boston and the resulting management shake-ups at Creator/CartoonNetwork. Of course, then the block [[ScrewedByTheNetwork got taken]] [[{{Cancellation}} off]], and [[AlasPoorScrappy people mourned its passing]], no matter what they'd thought about the {{retool}}... But {{retool}}. It wasn't until 2012, one of the last years with Snyder as CN's president, when Toonami [[UnCanceled came]] [[NetworkToTheRescue back]], [[CanonDiscontinuity it was with an updated version of retrieving the previous, well-liked better-received TOM 3, with the Absolution back in space, and with no mention of the last few years of the original run]].
*** The TOM 4 era did indeed happen, as evidenced by [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CNClh_bMek TOM 3.5 holding a conversation with TOM 4]] and alluding to... whatever it is that they've been up to since their "break." It's presumably a matter of getting the funding to properly tell said story ([[http://toonami.tumblr.com/post/45044747329/so-since-you-got-the-money-for-a-new-tom-might-we-have which they plan on presenting in the form of an online comic]]). At any rate, Toonami is primarily focusing on the nostalgia of the pre-TOM 4 years, as evidenced by a switch/upgrade to TOM 5 (who resembles a sort of intermediate stage between [=TOMs=] 2 and 3) in April 2013, which coincided with [[TheBusCameBack the return of SARA]].
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* A lot of sports fans consider Creator/{{ESPN}} to be in one now, especially with its flagship program ''Series/SportsCenter''. The sports news show rose to great popularity in TheNineties due to its charismatic anchors that could deliver scores and highlights with a touch of witty banter. More recently, though, Later still, the show seems to be more focused on trumpeting its hosts over the games they're supposed to be reporting on through endless "analysis" segments that last way too long for many viewers. What's more, the hosts they have now, like Skip Bayless and Stephen A Smith, come off as too egotistical and annoying in the eyes of many.\\



* It's debatable whether or not they are still in it now, but Creator/{{Nickelodeon}} as it was from 2009 to 2015 is almost unanimously considered the lowest point in the network's history. Over half of the channel's timeslots were filled with reruns of ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants''. They put out poorly-made live-action shows that made the ''Disney Channel'' (see below) look like a bastion of quality programming though most agree that ''Series/{{ICarly}}'' at least was good. They gave WebVideo/{{Fred}} three poorly-received movies and a show that didn't even get a second season. They regularly rejected quality pilots from talented creators, including turning down the chance to make ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' into a full series, which was later picked up by CartoonNetwork and went on to become a huge success. They regularly cancelled or ignored other good shows they have, yet gave multiple seasons to ''WesternAnimation/FanboyAndChumChum''. And they now trawl Website/YouTube for show ideas, like ''WesternAnimation/{{Breadwinners}}''. It also didn't help that they gained a reputation for relegating any new animated shows they received to Nicktoons Network, usually after only a month or two of their premiere on Nickelodeon. They repeatedly showed themselves to be out of touch with what audiences were interested at the time, (compared to rival networks Disney XD and Cartoon Network) resulting in many of their new shows being criticized for lacking substance in comparison to animated shows on said rival networks. During several points in this period, Nickelodeon's ratings plummeted to lows that hadn't been seen on the network since the early 80s.
** Exemplified with their treatment of ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender''. The original show was a phenomenon, raking in views across all demographic groups and bringing in rave reviews and huge ratings for the network, to the point where they planned a movie adaptation for a show less than a decade old (though the less said about ''that'', the better). So how many episodes did Nickelodeon order for its sequel series ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' initially? '''Twelve'''. Then, after the show proved to be successful, they ordered three more seasons... and proceeded to delay it time and time again until September 2013. And then they booted it to the network's website in 2014.

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* It's debatable whether or not they are still in it now, but Creator/{{Nickelodeon}} Creator/{{Nickelodeon}}, as it was from 2009 to 2015 2015, is almost unanimously considered the lowest point in the network's history. history.
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Over half of the channel's timeslots were filled with reruns of ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants''. They put out poorly-made live-action shows that made the ''Disney Channel'' (see below) look like a bastion of quality programming though most agree that ''Series/{{ICarly}}'' at least was good. They gave WebVideo/{{Fred}} three poorly-received movies and a show that didn't even get a second season. They regularly rejected quality pilots from talented creators, including turning down the chance to make ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' into a full series, which was later picked up by CartoonNetwork Cartoon Network and went on to become a huge success. They regularly cancelled or ignored other good shows they have, yet gave multiple seasons to ''WesternAnimation/FanboyAndChumChum''. And they now trawl Website/YouTube for show ideas, like ''WesternAnimation/{{Breadwinners}}''. It also didn't help that they gained a reputation for relegating any new animated shows they received to Nicktoons Network, usually after only a month or two of their premiere on Nickelodeon. They repeatedly showed themselves to be out of touch with what audiences were interested at the time, (compared to rival networks Disney XD and Cartoon Network) resulting in many of their new shows being criticized for lacking substance in comparison to animated shows on said rival networks. During several points in this period, Nickelodeon's ratings plummeted to lows that hadn't been seen on the network since the early 80s.
** Exemplified with The Dork Age affected their treatment of ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender''. The original show was a phenomenon, raking in views across all demographic groups and bringing in rave reviews and huge ratings for the network, to the point where they planned a movie adaptation for a show less than a decade old (though the less said about ''that'', the better). So how many episodes did Nickelodeon order for its sequel series ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' initially? '''Twelve'''. Then, after the show proved to be successful, they ordered three more seasons... and proceeded to delay it time and time again until September 2013. And then they booted it to the network's website in 2014.



** They seem to be making an effort to break out of this, however. Recent shows have seen increase in quality. ''WesternAnimation/HarveyBeaks'' was the first Nicktoon to get mostly positive reviews in a long time, while ''WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse'' was an outright smash hit. ''WesternAnimation/SanjayAndCraig'', initially considered mediocre at best, was allowed to have its humor and writing improve, leading to it GrowingTheBeard and becoming far better liked than it was at the time of its debut. ''Spongebob'' even saw the amount of reruns scaled back. (As well as improving itself in its own way after being in its own Dork Age. See the Western Animation section for details.) Some of the more hated shows were cancelled or shunted off to Nicktoons. While Nick doesn't seem to be ''quite'' out of the woods yet, the channel seems to be taking great lengths to catch up with its rivals Disney Channel[=/=]XD and Cartoon Network and shed its reputation as a cesspool for unfunny and/or substance-less programs and attracting only the LowestCommonDenominator.



* Belgian channel KANAALTWEE (now known as [[UsefulNotes/FlemishTVStations 2BE]]) had one from 2004 to the first six months of 2005. The main reason why is because its major share of programming at the time was outdone by other television networks. Its market share (less than 5%) was considered too low and the network was almost desperate for trying a new hit but they never seemed to find one (with the daily soap Star Academy being much more unsuccessful than expected). Pretty much every new show the network would have would get ScrewedByTheNetwork in a few weeks to get replaced and it seemed like every show would get low ratings (the shows with the highest ratings were stuff such as ''Open en Bloot'' and ''De Heren Maken De Man'', which got 200.000 viewers). The last 6 months became more successful thanks to their new slogan (Need Entertainment?). ''Big Brother 2006'' would get a viewer count of 300.000 viewers a day and their slew of live-action shows on monday evening would get a viewer count of 600.000 viewers, putting them effectively out of their bad status.

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* Belgian channel KANAALTWEE (now known as [[UsefulNotes/FlemishTVStations 2BE]]) had one from 2004 to the first six months of 2005. The main reason why is because its major share of programming at the time was outdone by other television networks. Its market share (less than 5%) was considered too low and the network was almost desperate for trying a new hit but they never seemed to find one (with the daily soap Star Academy being much more unsuccessful than expected). Pretty much Nearly every new show the network would have would get ScrewedByTheNetwork in a few weeks to get replaced and it seemed like every show would get low ratings (the shows with the highest ratings were stuff such as ''Open en Bloot'' and ''De Heren Maken De Man'', which got 200.000 viewers). The last 6 months became more successful thanks to their new slogan (Need Entertainment?). ''Big Brother 2006'' would get a viewer count of 300.000 viewers a day and their slew of live-action shows on monday evening would get a viewer count of 600.000 viewers, putting them effectively out of their bad status.
30th Aug '16 6:42:36 PM nombretomado
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* The DisneyChannel (and perhaps the company as a whole too) went through one of these for the better half of a decade, generally agreed to have begun with the premiere of ''Series/HannahMontana'' (which coincides with the end of ''WesternAnimation/KimPossible'') and to have concluded with the premiere of ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'', though one could argue for it concluding with the premiere of ''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb''. During this period, they shoved animation to the side in favor of cheap, mediocre, tween-oriented sitcoms and TV movies that acted as little more than vehicles for whatever pop-star they were trying to bring into the limelight. They hardly even used [[MickeyMouse their]] [[DonaldDuck own]] [[{{Goofy}} mascots]] anymore! Fortunately, starting in 2010, they began to go back to their roots by creating brand-new, well-received animated shows while also making [[WesternAnimation/MickeyMouse2013 new shorts starring Mickey]] that has proven to be an Annie/Emmy magnet.[[note]] Though admittedly, Disney has good legal reason to keep making shorts with the classic characters. Under current US copyright law (unless Disney manages to get it extended ''again''), ''Disney/SteamboatWillie'' will fall into the PublicDomain in 2024; the first Donald and Goofy cartoons won't be far behind. Once that happens, the only thing that will keep Disney in control of their characters is trademarks, which can last forever (unlike copyright), but only if the trademarks are maintained by, for instance, releasing new media with the characters.[[/note]]

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* The DisneyChannel Creator/DisneyChannel (and perhaps the company as a whole too) went through one of these for the better half of a decade, generally agreed to have begun with the premiere of ''Series/HannahMontana'' (which coincides with the end of ''WesternAnimation/KimPossible'') and to have concluded with the premiere of ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'', though one could argue for it concluding with the premiere of ''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb''. During this period, they shoved animation to the side in favor of cheap, mediocre, tween-oriented sitcoms and TV movies that acted as little more than vehicles for whatever pop-star they were trying to bring into the limelight. They hardly even used [[MickeyMouse their]] [[DonaldDuck own]] [[{{Goofy}} mascots]] anymore! Fortunately, starting in 2010, they began to go back to their roots by creating brand-new, well-received animated shows while also making [[WesternAnimation/MickeyMouse2013 new shorts starring Mickey]] that has proven to be an Annie/Emmy magnet.[[note]] Though admittedly, Disney has good legal reason to keep making shorts with the classic characters. Under current US copyright law (unless Disney manages to get it extended ''again''), ''Disney/SteamboatWillie'' will fall into the PublicDomain in 2024; the first Donald and Goofy cartoons won't be far behind. Once that happens, the only thing that will keep Disney in control of their characters is trademarks, which can last forever (unlike copyright), but only if the trademarks are maintained by, for instance, releasing new media with the characters.[[/note]]
20th Aug '16 10:46:05 AM KamenRiderKrypton
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* Creator/{{Channel4}} is in the midst of a prolonged Dork Age in the eyes of older viewers. Originally touted as an 'alternative' channel to the more mainstream BBC and ITV, its programming catered to a lot of niche interests, such as animation. Its comedic output from the late 80's to late 90's is particularly well-regarded, featuring a mix of home-grown classics such as ''Series/FatherTed'' and ''Series/Spaced'' as well as imports of American sitcoms. This halted in 1997 with the appointment of Micheal Jackson as Controller of Channel 4, which caused the network to rely more on those imports as well as more broadly accessible programming, the crux of which was ''Series/BigBrother''. Nowadays the network draws in viewers with more populist programming such as ''Series/MyBigFatGypsyWedding'' and ''Series/BenefitsStreet'', which keep the network afloat despite criticism from its older fans over what it has become.

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* Creator/{{Channel4}} is in the midst of a prolonged Dork Age in the eyes of older viewers. Originally touted as an 'alternative' channel to the more mainstream BBC and ITV, its programming catered to a lot of niche interests, such as animation. Its comedic output from the late 80's to late 90's is particularly well-regarded, featuring a mix of home-grown classics such as ''Series/FatherTed'' and ''Series/Spaced'' ''Series/{{Spaced}}'' as well as imports of American sitcoms. This halted in 1997 with the appointment of Micheal Jackson as Controller of Channel 4, which caused the network to rely more on those imports as well as more broadly accessible programming, the crux of which was ''Series/BigBrother''. Nowadays the network draws in viewers with more populist programming such as ''Series/MyBigFatGypsyWedding'' and ''Series/BenefitsStreet'', which keep the network afloat despite criticism from its older fans over what it has become.
11th Aug '16 8:54:14 AM kablammin45
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* Creator/{{Nickelodeon}}'s going through this right now, and has been since at least 2009. Over half of the channel's timeslots are filled with reruns of ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants''. They put out poorly-made live-action shows that make the ''Disney Channel'' (see below) look like a bastion of quality programming though most agree that ''Series/{{ICarly}}'' at least was good. They gave WebVideo/{{Fred}} three poorly-received movies and a show that didn't even get a second season. They regularly reject quality pilots from talented creators, including turning down the chance to make ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' into a full series, which was later picked up by CartoonNetwork and went on to become a huge success. They have cancelled or ignored other good shows they have, yet gave multiple seasons to ''WesternAnimation/FanboyAndChumChum''. And they now trawl Website/YouTube for show ideas, like ''WesternAnimation/{{Breadwinners}}''. It also doesn't help that they frequently relegate any new animated shows they have to Nicktoons Network, usually after only a month or two of their premiere on Nickelodeon.

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* Creator/{{Nickelodeon}}'s going through this right It's debatable whether or not they are still in it now, and has been since at least 2009. but Creator/{{Nickelodeon}} as it was from 2009 to 2015 is almost unanimously considered the lowest point in the network's history. Over half of the channel's timeslots are were filled with reruns of ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants''. They put out poorly-made live-action shows that make made the ''Disney Channel'' (see below) look like a bastion of quality programming though most agree that ''Series/{{ICarly}}'' at least was good. They gave WebVideo/{{Fred}} three poorly-received movies and a show that didn't even get a second season. They regularly reject rejected quality pilots from talented creators, including turning down the chance to make ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' into a full series, which was later picked up by CartoonNetwork and went on to become a huge success. They have regularly cancelled or ignored other good shows they have, yet gave multiple seasons to ''WesternAnimation/FanboyAndChumChum''. And they now trawl Website/YouTube for show ideas, like ''WesternAnimation/{{Breadwinners}}''. It also doesn't didn't help that they frequently relegate gained a reputation for relegating any new animated shows they have received to Nicktoons Network, usually after only a month or two of their premiere on Nickelodeon.Nickelodeon. They repeatedly showed themselves to be out of touch with what audiences were interested at the time, (compared to rival networks Disney XD and Cartoon Network) resulting in many of their new shows being criticized for lacking substance in comparison to animated shows on said rival networks. During several points in this period, Nickelodeon's ratings plummeted to lows that hadn't been seen on the network since the early 80s.


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** They seem to be making an effort to break out of this, however. Recent shows have seen increase in quality. ''WesternAnimation/HarveyBeaks'' was the first Nicktoon to get mostly positive reviews in a long time, while ''WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse'' was an outright smash hit. ''WesternAnimation/SanjayAndCraig'', initially considered mediocre at best, was allowed to have its humor and writing improve, leading to it GrowingTheBeard and becoming far better liked than it was at the time of its debut. ''Spongebob'' even saw the amount of reruns scaled back. (As well as improving itself in its own way after being in its own Dork Age. See the Western Animation section for details.) Some of the more hated shows were cancelled or shunted off to Nicktoons. While Nick doesn't seem to be ''quite'' out of the woods yet, the channel seems to be taking great lengths to catch up with its rivals Disney Channel[=/=]XD and Cartoon Network and shed its reputation as a cesspool for unfunny and/or substance-less programs and attracting only the LowestCommonDenominator.
23rd Jul '16 1:20:10 PM nombretomado
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* Creator/NineNetwork fell into this around [[TurnOfTheMillennium the mid-noughties]], because all of the American shows it aired were either getting cancelled (like Friends and Frasier) or were losing their charm (like CSI) and they didn't have anything to fill the holes in the schedule. Their foray into reality TV failed when they cancelled The Block and the Australian version of Survivor flopped. Since this was also the time when internet speeds in Australia were getting fast enough that many Aussies simply downloaded any good foreign shows, in the panic Australian networks started airing shows as soon as they possibly could; it's just that Nine did this to, of all things, Viva Laughlin, which was cancelled after its second episode. Luckily, their fortunes has turned around, due to a combination of good reality properties like return of The Block and Australian BigBrother, as well as good drama like {{Underbelly}} and a number CBS comedy imports like Series/TwoAndAHalfMen and Series/TheBigBangTheory (although they might be playing them too much...)

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* Creator/NineNetwork fell into this around [[TurnOfTheMillennium the mid-noughties]], because all of the American shows it aired were either getting cancelled (like Friends and Frasier) or were losing their charm (like CSI) and they didn't have anything to fill the holes in the schedule. Their foray into reality TV failed when they cancelled The Block and the Australian version of Survivor flopped. Since this was also the time when internet speeds in Australia were getting fast enough that many Aussies simply downloaded any good foreign shows, in the panic Australian networks started airing shows as soon as they possibly could; it's just that Nine did this to, of all things, Viva Laughlin, which was cancelled after its second episode. Luckily, their fortunes has turned around, due to a combination of good reality properties like return of The Block and Australian BigBrother, Series/BigBrother, as well as good drama like {{Underbelly}} and a number CBS comedy imports like Series/TwoAndAHalfMen and Series/TheBigBangTheory (although they might be playing them too much...)
19th Mar '16 2:26:43 PM nombretomado
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* Creator/NineNetwork fell into this around [[TurnOfTheMillennium the mid-noughties]], because all of the American shows it aired were either getting cancelled (like Friends and Frasier) or were losing their charm (like CSI) and they didn't have anything to fill the holes in the schedule. Their foray into reality TV failed when they cancelled The Block and the Australian version of Survivor flopped. Since this was also the time when internet speeds in Australia were getting fast enough that many Aussies simply downloaded any good foreign shows, in the panic Australian networks started airing shows as soon as they possibly could; it's just that Nine did this to, of all things, Viva Laughlin, which was cancelled after its second episode. Luckily, their fortunes has turned around, due to a combination of good reality properties like return of The Block and Australian BigBrother, as well as good drama like {{Underbelly}} and a number CBS comedy imports like TwoAndAHalfMen and TheBigBangTheory (although they might be playing them too much...)

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* Creator/NineNetwork fell into this around [[TurnOfTheMillennium the mid-noughties]], because all of the American shows it aired were either getting cancelled (like Friends and Frasier) or were losing their charm (like CSI) and they didn't have anything to fill the holes in the schedule. Their foray into reality TV failed when they cancelled The Block and the Australian version of Survivor flopped. Since this was also the time when internet speeds in Australia were getting fast enough that many Aussies simply downloaded any good foreign shows, in the panic Australian networks started airing shows as soon as they possibly could; it's just that Nine did this to, of all things, Viva Laughlin, which was cancelled after its second episode. Luckily, their fortunes has turned around, due to a combination of good reality properties like return of The Block and Australian BigBrother, as well as good drama like {{Underbelly}} and a number CBS comedy imports like TwoAndAHalfMen Series/TwoAndAHalfMen and TheBigBangTheory Series/TheBigBangTheory (although they might be playing them too much...)
27th Jan '16 6:57:21 PM Ugolino
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** In general, the tenure of Stuart Snyder is seen as one - not only was he the primary pusher towards live-action shows that unilaterally bombed, but he was also directly linked to getting several shows ScrewedByTheNetwork, the total demolition of action-oriented shows, mistreatment and alienation of content producers, eroding relationships with DC, and overall doing everything possible to destroy viewer interest. His tenure did see a number of good shows, but consensus is that they succeeded in spite of him.
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