History DorkAge / RealLife

29th Apr '16 10:02:44 AM Merseyuser1
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* This trope is both played straight and averted with [[Marks & Spencers http://www.marksandspencer.com]]. It is popular opinion that the firm is in this ''right now'' in 2016. Whilst this is up for debate, people are saying that the products aren't as good as they were between 2012-2014 (with [[JustHereForGodzilla the exception of the food and drinks section, and the wines/beers]]. However, the MsFanservice model [[as seen here http://asset1.marksandspencer.com/is/image/mands/DS_554288d74667786864e4edbd4cdfd44a_1?$PDP_MAXI_ZOOM_NEW$]] who has NoNameGiven on the website according to WordOfGod is generally seen as an an [[AvertedTrope aversion of this trope]].

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* This trope is both played straight and averted with [[Marks & Spencers http://www.[[http://www.marksandspencer.com]].com Marks & Spencers]]. It is popular opinion that the firm is in this ''right now'' in 2016. Whilst this is up for debate, people are saying that the products aren't as good as they were between 2012-2014 (with [[JustHereForGodzilla the exception of the food and drinks section, and the wines/beers]]. However, the MsFanservice model [[as seen here http://asset1.[[http://asset1.marksandspencer.com/is/image/mands/DS_554288d74667786864e4edbd4cdfd44a_1?$PDP_MAXI_ZOOM_NEW$]] com/is/image/mands/DS_554288d74667786864e4edbd4cdfd44a_1?$PDP_MAXI_ZOOM_NEW$ as seen on their website]] who has NoNameGiven on the website according to WordOfGod is generally seen as an an [[AvertedTrope aversion of this trope]].
29th Apr '16 10:01:32 AM Merseyuser1
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* This trope is both played straight and averted with [Marks & Spencers http://www.marksandspencer.com]. It is popular opinion that the firm is in this ''right now'' in 2016. Whilst this is up for debate, people are saying that the products aren't as good as they were between 2012-2014 (with [[JustHereForGodzilla the exception of the food and drinks section, and the wines/beers]]. However, the MsFanservice model [as seen here http://asset1.marksandspencer.com/is/image/mands/DS_554288d74667786864e4edbd4cdfd44a_1?$PDP_MAXI_ZOOM_NEW$] who has NoNameGiven on the website according to WordOfGod is generally seen as an an [[AvertedTrope aversion of this trope]].

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* This trope is both played straight and averted with [Marks [[Marks & Spencers http://www.marksandspencer.com].com]]. It is popular opinion that the firm is in this ''right now'' in 2016. Whilst this is up for debate, people are saying that the products aren't as good as they were between 2012-2014 (with [[JustHereForGodzilla the exception of the food and drinks section, and the wines/beers]]. However, the MsFanservice model [as [[as seen here http://asset1.marksandspencer.com/is/image/mands/DS_554288d74667786864e4edbd4cdfd44a_1?$PDP_MAXI_ZOOM_NEW$] com/is/image/mands/DS_554288d74667786864e4edbd4cdfd44a_1?$PDP_MAXI_ZOOM_NEW$]] who has NoNameGiven on the website according to WordOfGod is generally seen as an an [[AvertedTrope aversion of this trope]].
29th Apr '16 10:00:17 AM Merseyuser1
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* This trope is both played straight and averted with [http://www.marksandspencer.com Marks & Spencers]]. It is popular opinion that the firm is in this ''right now'' in 2016. Whilst this is up for debate, people are saying that the products aren't as good as they were between 2012-2014 (with [[JustHereForGodzilla the exception of the food and drinks section, and the wines/beers]]. However, the MsFanservice model [http://asset1.marksandspencer.com/is/image/mands/DS_554288d74667786864e4edbd4cdfd44a_1?$PDP_MAXI_ZOOM_NEW$ as seen here] who has NoNameGiven on the website according to WordOfGod is generally seen as an an [[AvertedTrope aversion of this trope]].

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* This trope is both played straight and averted with [http://www.[Marks & Spencers http://www.marksandspencer.com Marks & Spencers]].com]. It is popular opinion that the firm is in this ''right now'' in 2016. Whilst this is up for debate, people are saying that the products aren't as good as they were between 2012-2014 (with [[JustHereForGodzilla the exception of the food and drinks section, and the wines/beers]]. However, the MsFanservice model [http://asset1.[as seen here http://asset1.marksandspencer.com/is/image/mands/DS_554288d74667786864e4edbd4cdfd44a_1?$PDP_MAXI_ZOOM_NEW$ as seen here] com/is/image/mands/DS_554288d74667786864e4edbd4cdfd44a_1?$PDP_MAXI_ZOOM_NEW$] who has NoNameGiven on the website according to WordOfGod is generally seen as an an [[AvertedTrope aversion of this trope]].
29th Apr '16 9:59:26 AM Merseyuser1
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* Rail travel underwent a serious dork age in most of the West between (roughly) the 1950s and the advent of high speed rail. The decline was precipitated by the rise in private automobile ownership and lead to the abandonment of many lines as well as the bankruptcy of several private railroads. Some railroads tried their best to counteract the trend, but of course this was not always successful and some of the attempts to update the design were about as successful as "new coke". However, with the rise in gas prices as well as newer faster services such as the Shinkansen (Japan, 1960s) the TGV (France, 1980s) or UsefulNotes/DeutscheBahn 's ICE (1990s) rail travel recovered and even managed to put a dent in the numbers of air travel along short routes. Even the much laughed about UsefulNotes/{{Amtrak}} of the United States which was formed in the 1970s in order to keep the private railroads from collapsing under the weight of money losing passenger services has increased ridership by over 50% since 2000 and carries more passengers along the Acela-corridor (Boston-New York-Washington) than all airlines ''combined''.

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* Rail travel underwent a serious dork age in most of the West between (roughly) the 1950s and the advent of high speed rail. The decline was precipitated by the rise in private automobile ownership and lead to the abandonment of many lines as well as the bankruptcy of several private railroads. Some railroads tried their best to counteract the trend, but of course this was not always successful and some of the attempts to update the design were about as successful as "new coke". However, with the rise in gas prices as well as newer faster services such as the Shinkansen (Japan, 1960s) the TGV (France, 1980s) or UsefulNotes/DeutscheBahn 's ICE (1990s) rail travel recovered and even managed to put a dent in the numbers of air travel along short routes. Even the much laughed about UsefulNotes/{{Amtrak}} of the United States which was formed in the 1970s in order to keep the private railroads from collapsing under the weight of money losing passenger services has increased ridership by over 50% since 2000 and carries more passengers along the Acela-corridor (Boston-New York-Washington) than all airlines ''combined''.''combined''.
* This trope is both played straight and averted with [http://www.marksandspencer.com Marks & Spencers]]. It is popular opinion that the firm is in this ''right now'' in 2016. Whilst this is up for debate, people are saying that the products aren't as good as they were between 2012-2014 (with [[JustHereForGodzilla the exception of the food and drinks section, and the wines/beers]]. However, the MsFanservice model [http://asset1.marksandspencer.com/is/image/mands/DS_554288d74667786864e4edbd4cdfd44a_1?$PDP_MAXI_ZOOM_NEW$ as seen here] who has NoNameGiven on the website according to WordOfGod is generally seen as an an [[AvertedTrope aversion of this trope]].
25th Apr '16 10:33:15 PM ThatBitterTase
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* [[UsefulNotes/{{Bodybuilding}} Bodybuilding]] went into this once competitions lean towards "big muscles > all other factors". For women, the winners eventually became {{Brawn Hilda}}s instead of [[AmazonianBeauty Amazonian Beauties]], while male winners became freakishly bigger.

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* [[UsefulNotes/{{Bodybuilding}} Bodybuilding]] went into this once competitions lean towards "big muscles > all other factors". For women, the winners eventually became {{Brawn Hilda}}s instead of [[AmazonianBeauty Amazonian Beauties]], while male winners became freakishly bigger. Early in 2016, a famous bodybuilder declared his disgust with this trend and suggested a new weight class, "Classic", aimed at bodies more along the lines of Greek statues/Steve Reeves - and since that bodybuilder was Creator/ArnoldSchwartzenegger, people listened. It remains to be seen if this helps.
21st Apr '16 3:08:17 PM TheRedRedKroovy
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The standard of Apple's ''hardware'' is seen as having held up much better, at least from a technical standpoint, though even there, the design is not without criticism. The current design of the Mac Pro, a black cylinder the approximate size of a mini-beer keg with a ton of expansion possibility, is divisive; while it's generally viewed as an exceptional machine from a purely technical standpoint, the fact that none of its expansion is internal means lots of dongles and breakout boxes to clutter your desk. The iPhone 6's larger size (4.7 and 5.5 inches for the standard and Plus models) was also contentious; while some were excited that Apple was finally making a 'phablet' to compete with similarly large Android offerings, those who liked the smaller, older iPhones were dismayed by it, especially given that Jobs had made a point of never making an iPhone with a screen greater than 3.5 inches, which he felt was the perfect size for a smartphone screen (he derisively [[http://www.cheatsheet.com/technology/5-ways-apple-has-broken-steve-jobss-product-design-rules.html/?a=viewall compared]] larger phones to {{Hummer|Dinger}}s).

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The standard of Apple's ''hardware'' is seen as having held up much better, at least from a technical standpoint, though even there, the design is not without criticism. The current design of the Mac Pro, a black cylinder the approximate size of a mini-beer keg with a ton of expansion possibility, is divisive; while it's generally viewed as an exceptional machine from a purely technical standpoint, the fact that none of its expansion is internal means lots of dongles and breakout boxes to clutter your desk. The iPhone 6's larger size (4.7 and 5.5 inches for the standard and Plus models) was also contentious; while contentious. While some were excited that Apple was finally making a 'phablet' to compete with similarly large Android offerings, those who liked the smaller, older iPhones were dismayed by it, it -- especially Jobs loyalists, given that Jobs had made a point of never making an iPhone with a screen greater than 3.5 inches, which he felt was the perfect size for a smartphone screen (he derisively [[http://www.cheatsheet.com/technology/5-ways-apple-has-broken-steve-jobss-product-design-rules.html/?a=viewall compared]] larger phones to {{Hummer|Dinger}}s).
21st Apr '16 3:00:56 PM TheRedRedKroovy
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** Their product range during the tail end of the 1980s and early 1990s had degenerated from the insane greatness of the classic AppleMacintosh to the extraordinarily bland Performa range; although the Powerbooks sold well, and the Power Macs and Quadras got good reviews, none of the company's products were particularly exciting.\\

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** Their product range during the tail end of the 1980s and early 1990s had degenerated from the insane greatness of the classic AppleMacintosh UsefulNotes/AppleMacintosh to the extraordinarily bland Performa range; although range. Although the Powerbooks sold well, and the Power Macs and Quadras got good reviews, none of the company's products were particularly exciting.\\



Strapped for cash, Apple even took to licensing clones of the Mac hardware, which raised money in the short term whilst eating into long-term Macintosh sales. The company was in pretty bad shape before Steve Jobs came back in 1997 and the original [=iMac=] was released in 1998. And it took them a few more years after that to finally get rid of the mess that the classic Mac OS had become.
** Some of Apple's more pessimistic fans think it's entering a new Dork Age with OS X 10.10 Yosemite and iOS 8. iPad sales are slowing, in part because people don't upgrade tablets nearly as often as they do phones. Nobody seems to know for sure what Apple has in mind for Beats, which it purchased in 2014. Getting a free U2 album? Great. Having it downloaded automatically onto your iTunes library? Not so much.\\

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Strapped for cash, Apple even took to licensing clones of the Mac hardware, which raised money in the short term whilst eating but ate into long-term Macintosh sales. The company was in pretty bad shape before Steve Jobs Creator/SteveJobs came back in 1997 and the original [=iMac=] was released in 1998. And 1998, and it took them a few more years after that to finally get rid of the mess that the classic Mac OS had become.
** Some of Apple's more pessimistic fans think it's entering a new Dork Age following the death of Creator/SteveJobs, with OS X 10.10 Yosemite and iOS 8.8 being the point where the lack of his vision really started to sting. iPad sales are slowing, in part because people don't upgrade tablets nearly as often as they do phones. Nobody seems to know for sure what Apple has in mind for Beats, which it purchased in 2014. Getting a free U2 album? Great. Having it downloaded automatically onto your iTunes library? Not so much.\\



Ironically, those same naysayers generally find Apple's ''hardware'' to be the best it's ever been. (That is, unless you're not a fan of the current design of the Mac Pro, a black cylinder the approximate size of a mini-beer keg with a ton of expansion possibility, none of it internal, meaning lots of dongles and breakout boxes to clutter your desk.)

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Ironically, those same naysayers generally find The standard of Apple's ''hardware'' to be is seen as having held up much better, at least from a technical standpoint, though even there, the best it's ever been. (That is, unless you're design is not a fan of the without criticism. The current design of the Mac Pro, a black cylinder the approximate size of a mini-beer keg with a ton of expansion possibility, is divisive; while it's generally viewed as an exceptional machine from a purely technical standpoint, the fact that none of it internal, meaning its expansion is internal means lots of dongles and breakout boxes to clutter your desk.)desk. The iPhone 6's larger size (4.7 and 5.5 inches for the standard and Plus models) was also contentious; while some were excited that Apple was finally making a 'phablet' to compete with similarly large Android offerings, those who liked the smaller, older iPhones were dismayed by it, especially given that Jobs had made a point of never making an iPhone with a screen greater than 3.5 inches, which he felt was the perfect size for a smartphone screen (he derisively [[http://www.cheatsheet.com/technology/5-ways-apple-has-broken-steve-jobss-product-design-rules.html/?a=viewall compared]] larger phones to {{Hummer|Dinger}}s).



* In TheNewTens, Boeing was in a right mess – caught in a scandal that sent an Air Force official to prison, caught spying on [[TheRival Airbus]], the TroubledProduction and ScheduleSlip of the 787 "[[CoolPlane Dreamliner]]", and the CEO [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking having an affair]].

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* In TheNewTens, Boeing was in a right mess caught in a scandal that sent an Air Force official to prison, caught spying on [[TheRival Airbus]], the TroubledProduction and ScheduleSlip of the 787 "[[CoolPlane Dreamliner]]", and the CEO [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking having an affair]].
13th Apr '16 12:56:34 PM DavidDelony
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* Paul Pressler’s run as president of [[Ride/DisneyThemeParks Disneyland]] from 1996 to 2000 is a textbook example of someone excelling in one field but completely failing in another. After a very successful stint as the head of The Disney Store (which itself underwent a Dork Age after he left, thanks in part to focusing on films like ''Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame'' and ''Disney/{{Hercules}}'' that aren't exactly merchandising-friendly), Pressler was promoted to the top position of Disneyland, which at the time was undergoing a radical change. The park was slowly losing new customers, and an attempt to add a second Disney park to the area had failed miserably. He was charged with saving money and enticing new people to the park – which he did by seriously cutting attraction maintenance and operating hours, and by homogenizing merchandise within the park down to only a few major items like T-shirts and plushies, basically turning the park into a glorified Disney Store. He then turned to saving even more money by completely shutting down smaller low-capacity attractions like the Motor Boat Cruise, and helping “trim” the budget to a massive redo of the Tomorrowland area.\\

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* Paul Pressler’s run as president of [[Ride/DisneyThemeParks Disneyland]] from 1996 to 2000 is a textbook example of [[ThePeterPrinciple someone excelling in one field but completely failing in another.another]]. After a very successful stint as the head of The Disney Store (which itself underwent a Dork Age after he left, thanks in part to focusing on films like ''Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame'' and ''Disney/{{Hercules}}'' that aren't exactly merchandising-friendly), Pressler was promoted to the top position of Disneyland, which at the time was undergoing a radical change. The park was slowly losing new customers, and an attempt to add a second Disney park to the area had failed miserably. He was charged with saving money and enticing new people to the park – which he did by seriously cutting attraction maintenance and operating hours, and by homogenizing merchandise within the park down to only a few major items like T-shirts and plushies, basically turning the park into a glorified Disney Store. He then turned to saving even more money by completely shutting down smaller low-capacity attractions like the Motor Boat Cruise, and helping “trim” the budget to a massive redo of the Tomorrowland area.\\
7th Apr '16 9:07:09 AM Jhonny
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* English cuisine went through its Dork Age in the 20th century. Until the industrial revolution the cuisine of England was well regarded throughout Europe, but due to the industrial revolution and the two world wars the cuisine of England saw a drastic decline in quality and reputation when mass produced food became popular. Since the 1970s the Dork Age has started to decline but the reputation still persists.

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* English cuisine went through its Dork Age in the 20th century. Until the industrial revolution the cuisine of England was well regarded throughout Europe, but due to the industrial revolution and the two world wars the cuisine of England saw a drastic decline in quality and reputation when mass produced food became popular. Since the 1970s the Dork Age has started to decline but the reputation still persists.persists.
* Rail travel underwent a serious dork age in most of the West between (roughly) the 1950s and the advent of high speed rail. The decline was precipitated by the rise in private automobile ownership and lead to the abandonment of many lines as well as the bankruptcy of several private railroads. Some railroads tried their best to counteract the trend, but of course this was not always successful and some of the attempts to update the design were about as successful as "new coke". However, with the rise in gas prices as well as newer faster services such as the Shinkansen (Japan, 1960s) the TGV (France, 1980s) or UsefulNotes/DeutscheBahn 's ICE (1990s) rail travel recovered and even managed to put a dent in the numbers of air travel along short routes. Even the much laughed about UsefulNotes/{{Amtrak}} of the United States which was formed in the 1970s in order to keep the private railroads from collapsing under the weight of money losing passenger services has increased ridership by over 50% since 2000 and carries more passengers along the Acela-corridor (Boston-New York-Washington) than all airlines ''combined''.
17th Mar '16 2:16:56 PM Demetrios
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This backfired badly. Adult tourists who preferred to gamble and party without dodging kids were upset, hotel-casino staffs trained to operate adult-oriented resorts couldn't handle the unique needs of families, cases of parents rushing off to the gaming tables and leaving their kids to fend for themselves made the news – one abandoned child ended up kidnapped and ''murdered'' – and the theme parks turned out to be a bomb. (To [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chmQXcE8zeU&list=FLlgPdk1ZJRfvzF_byN3QZtw&index=7 quote]] [[WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy Brian Griffin]]: "The town of Vegas has got a different face / Because it's a family place / With lots to do. / While in TheFifties a man could mingle with scores / Of all the seediest whores, / Well now his children can too!")\\

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This backfired badly. Adult tourists who preferred to gamble and party without dodging kids were upset, hotel-casino staffs trained to operate adult-oriented resorts [[CripplingOverspecialization couldn't handle the unique needs of families, families]], cases of parents rushing off to the gaming tables and leaving their kids to fend for themselves made the news – one abandoned child ended up kidnapped and ''murdered'' – and the theme parks turned out to be a bomb. (To [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chmQXcE8zeU&list=FLlgPdk1ZJRfvzF_byN3QZtw&index=7 quote]] [[WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy Brian Griffin]]: "The town of Vegas has got a different face / Because it's a family place / With lots to do. / While in TheFifties a man could mingle with scores / Of all the seediest whores, / Well now his children can too!")\\
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