History DorkAge / AnimeAndManga

8th May '18 3:46:17 PM mariofan1000
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* ''Franchise/LupinIII'' has ''Anime/LupinIIIPinkJacket'', which consists of the third anime series and the ''Legend Of The Gold Of Babylon'' film. Both the series and the movie had Lupin wearing a [[RealMenWearPink pink jacket]], most of the adult themes downplayed and the slapstick brought UpToEleven (as well as [[OffModel a bizarre design for Fujiko]]). Today, it is [[CanonDiscontinuity widely ignored]] by both the anime producers at Creator/TMSEntertainment and most fans in general in favor of ''Anime/LupinIIIRedJacket'' and the yearly specials it inspired.

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* ''Franchise/LupinIII'' has ''Anime/LupinIIIPinkJacket'', which consists of the third anime series and the ''Legend Of The Gold Of Babylon'' film. Both the series and the movie had Lupin wearing a [[RealMenWearPink pink jacket]], most of the adult themes downplayed and the slapstick brought UpToEleven (as well as [[OffModel a bizarre design for Fujiko]]). Today, Although nowadays it is [[CanonDiscontinuity widely ignored]] by both the anime producers at Creator/TMSEntertainment and most fans in general in favor of ''Anime/LupinIIIRedJacket'' and the yearly specials it inspired. inspired, it did get a homage episode in ''Anime/LupinIIIPart5''.
28th Mar '18 10:48:52 PM DarthBlitzer
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* The medium in general is still considered to be going through one. This started in 2008 following the success of the ''LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya'' anime two years prior, when there was a prominent shift towards LighterAndSofter {{Moe}} productions that [[PanderingToTheBase pandered]] to otakus, with [[AudienceALienatingPremise little to no regard]] towards international appeal. Meanwhile, the rise in fansubs and illegal torrenting discouraged dubbing companies from producing dubs for foreign audiences, who could easily download a fansubbed anime episode just hours after its Japanese airing for free. During this time, it became more popular to mock anime fans than to be one, with the {{Kawaiiko}} and OccidentalOtaku stereotypes becoming common insults against them. Despite the successes of more popular non-moe anime in TheNewTens like ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'', ''WebComic/OnePunchMan'', and ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'', they weren't enough to bring the anime industry out of the dork age, and over-saturation, piracy, and the declining economy are still large issues. It has gotten to the point that as of late 2017, a group of anime fans have formed the [[https://www.flyingcolorsfoundation.org/ Flying Colors Foundation]], with the intent of connecting western anime fans to Japanese creators in hopes of bringing the industry out of the dork age once and for all.
28th Feb '18 9:01:09 PM RoarkTenjouin
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* Amongst ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' fans, one of the more agreed upon examples would be ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamAGE''. While the first arc is seen as SoOkayItsAverage, and the second arc is seen as seen as GrowingTheBeard, the third arc is where things are generally seen as falling apart, due to the main protagonist of said arc being seen as taking everything many fans disliked about [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSeed Kira Yamato]] UpToEleven, caring more about Vagan casualties than his own wingmates[[note]]he was indifferent to the death of two of his wingmates, [[spoiler: including his mentor Seric, but when Deen, one of the Vagan, was killed by Zanald, that activated the X-Bit system]]; for comparison's sake, that would be like Goku going Super Saiyan for the first time not after Frieza killed Krillin, but rather, after Frieza invoked YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness on a subordinate that Goku didn't even know by name[[/note]], and yelling at both sides about "Understanding" as opposed to acting. This, combined with the art style being rather disliked, many of the deaths being the result of characters clutching the IdiotBall, the show overall seen as being a ClicheStorm, and the show's ending, which many disliked, led many fans to deem it the new low in the franchise...which, were it not for the success of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamUnicorn'' and ''Anime/GundamBuildFighters'', it [[FranchiseKiller likely would've ended]].
18th Feb '18 10:54:46 AM mariofan1000
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** ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'' itself got off to a rough start, due to the first two arcs simply being adaptations of Battle of Gods and Resurrection F, as well as notoriously terrible animation. However, once it started to branch off into original stories, it became far more favorably received.
29th Jan '18 4:42:49 PM DivineFlame100
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* The medium in general is still considered to be going through one. This started in 2008 with the success of the ''LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya'' anime two years prior, when there was a prominent shift towards LighterAndSofter {{Moe}} productions that [[PanderingToTheBase pandered]] to otakus, with [[AudienceALienatingPremise little to no regard]] towards international appeal. Meanwhile, the rise in fansubs and illegal torrenting discouraged dubbing companies from producing dubs for foreign audiences, who could easily download a fansubbed anime episode just hours after its Japanese airing for free. During this time, it became more popular to mock anime fans than to be one, with the {{Kawaiiko}} and OccidentalOtaku stereotypes becoming common insults against them. Despite the successes of more popular non-moe anime in TheNewTens like ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'', ''WebComic/OnePunchMan'', and ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'', they weren't enough to bring the anime industry out of the dork age, and over-saturation, piracy, and the declining economy are still large issues. It has gotten to the point that as of late 2017, a group of anime fans have formed the [[https://www.flyingcolorsfoundation.org/ Flying Colors Foundation]], with the intent of connecting western anime fans to Japanese creators in hopes of bringing the industry out of the dork age once and for all.

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* The medium in general is still considered to be going through one. This started in 2008 with following the success of the ''LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya'' anime two years prior, when there was a prominent shift towards LighterAndSofter {{Moe}} productions that [[PanderingToTheBase pandered]] to otakus, with [[AudienceALienatingPremise little to no regard]] towards international appeal. Meanwhile, the rise in fansubs and illegal torrenting discouraged dubbing companies from producing dubs for foreign audiences, who could easily download a fansubbed anime episode just hours after its Japanese airing for free. During this time, it became more popular to mock anime fans than to be one, with the {{Kawaiiko}} and OccidentalOtaku stereotypes becoming common insults against them. Despite the successes of more popular non-moe anime in TheNewTens like ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'', ''WebComic/OnePunchMan'', and ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'', they weren't enough to bring the anime industry out of the dork age, and over-saturation, piracy, and the declining economy are still large issues. It has gotten to the point that as of late 2017, a group of anime fans have formed the [[https://www.flyingcolorsfoundation.org/ Flying Colors Foundation]], with the intent of connecting western anime fans to Japanese creators in hopes of bringing the industry out of the dork age once and for all.
29th Jan '18 7:53:17 AM DivineFlame100
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* The medium in general is still considered to be going through one. This started in 2008 with the success of the ''LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya'' anime two years prior, when there was a prominent shift towards LighterAndSofter {{Moe}} productions that [[PanderingToTheBase pandered]] to otakus, with [[AudienceALienatingPremise little to no regard]] towards international appeal. Meanwhile, the rise in fansubs and illegal torrenting discouraged dubbing companies from producing dubs for foreign audiences, who could easily download a fansubbed anime episode just hours after its Japanese airing for free. During this time, it became more popular to mock anime fans than to be one, with the {{Kawaiiko}} and OccidentalOtaku stereotypes becoming common insults against them. Despite the successes of more popular non-moe anime in TheNewTens like ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'', ''WebComic/OnePunchMan'', and ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'', they weren't enough to bring the anime industry out of the dork age, and over-saturation, pirating, and the declining economy are still large issues. It has gotten to the point that as of late 2017, a group of anime fans have formed the [[https://www.flyingcolorsfoundation.org/ Flying Colors Foundation]], with the intent of connecting western anime fans to Japanese creators in hopes of bringing the industry out of the dork age once and for all.

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* The medium in general is still considered to be going through one. This started in 2008 with the success of the ''LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya'' anime two years prior, when there was a prominent shift towards LighterAndSofter {{Moe}} productions that [[PanderingToTheBase pandered]] to otakus, with [[AudienceALienatingPremise little to no regard]] towards international appeal. Meanwhile, the rise in fansubs and illegal torrenting discouraged dubbing companies from producing dubs for foreign audiences, who could easily download a fansubbed anime episode just hours after its Japanese airing for free. During this time, it became more popular to mock anime fans than to be one, with the {{Kawaiiko}} and OccidentalOtaku stereotypes becoming common insults against them. Despite the successes of more popular non-moe anime in TheNewTens like ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'', ''WebComic/OnePunchMan'', and ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'', they weren't enough to bring the anime industry out of the dork age, and over-saturation, pirating, piracy, and the declining economy are still large issues. It has gotten to the point that as of late 2017, a group of anime fans have formed the [[https://www.flyingcolorsfoundation.org/ Flying Colors Foundation]], with the intent of connecting western anime fans to Japanese creators in hopes of bringing the industry out of the dork age once and for all.
29th Jan '18 2:34:46 AM DivineFlame100
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* The medium in general is still going through one. This started in 2008 with the success of the ''LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya'' anime two years prior, when there was a prominent shift towards LighterAndSofter {{Moe}} productions that [[PanderingToTheBase pandered]] to otakus, with [[AudienceALienatingPremise little to no regard]] towards international appeal. Meanwhile, the rise in fansubs and illegal torrenting discouraged dubbing companies from producing dubs for foreign audiences, who could easily download a fansubbed anime episode just hours after its Japanese airing for free. During this time, it became more popular to mock anime fans than to be one, with the {{Kawaiiko}} and OccidentalOtaku stereotypes becoming common insults against them. Despite the success of more popular non-moe anime in TheNewTens like ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'', ''WebComic/OnePunchMan'', and ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'', they weren't enough to bring the anime industry out of the dork age, and over-saturation, pirating, and the declining economy are still large issues. It has gotten to the point that as of late 2017, a group of anime fans have formed the [[https://www.flyingcolorsfoundation.org/ Flying Colors Foundation]], with the intent of connecting western anime fans to Japanese creators in hopes of bringing the industry out of the dork age once and for all.

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* The medium in general is still considered to be going through one. This started in 2008 with the success of the ''LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya'' anime two years prior, when there was a prominent shift towards LighterAndSofter {{Moe}} productions that [[PanderingToTheBase pandered]] to otakus, with [[AudienceALienatingPremise little to no regard]] towards international appeal. Meanwhile, the rise in fansubs and illegal torrenting discouraged dubbing companies from producing dubs for foreign audiences, who could easily download a fansubbed anime episode just hours after its Japanese airing for free. During this time, it became more popular to mock anime fans than to be one, with the {{Kawaiiko}} and OccidentalOtaku stereotypes becoming common insults against them. Despite the success successes of more popular non-moe anime in TheNewTens like ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'', ''WebComic/OnePunchMan'', and ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'', they weren't enough to bring the anime industry out of the dork age, and over-saturation, pirating, and the declining economy are still large issues. It has gotten to the point that as of late 2017, a group of anime fans have formed the [[https://www.flyingcolorsfoundation.org/ Flying Colors Foundation]], with the intent of connecting western anime fans to Japanese creators in hopes of bringing the industry out of the dork age once and for all.
28th Jan '18 11:36:26 AM DivineFlame100
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* The medium in general is still going through one, which started in 2008 with the success of the ''LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya'' anime, when there was a prominent shift towards LighterAndSofter {{Moe}} productions that [[PanderingToTheBase pandered]] to otakus, with [[AudienceALienatingPremise little to no regard]] towards international appeal. Meanwhile, the rise in fansubs and illegal torrenting discouraged dubbing companies from producing dubs for foreign audiences, who could easily download a fansubbed anime episode just hours after its Japanese airing for free. During this time, it became more popular to mock anime fans than to be one, with the {{Kawaiiko}} and OccidentalOtaku stereotypes becoming common insults against them. Despite the success of more popular non-moe anime in TheNewTens like ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'', ''WebComic/OnePunchMan'', and ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'', they weren't enough to bring the anime industry out of the dork age, and over-saturation, pirating, and the declining economy are still large issues. It has gotten to the point that as of late 2017, a group of anime fans have formed the [[https://www.flyingcolorsfoundation.org/ Flying Colors Foundation]], with the intent of connecting western anime fans to Japanese creators in hopes of bringing the industry out of the dork age once and for all.

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* The medium in general is still going through one, which one. This started in 2008 with the success of the ''LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya'' anime, anime two years prior, when there was a prominent shift towards LighterAndSofter {{Moe}} productions that [[PanderingToTheBase pandered]] to otakus, with [[AudienceALienatingPremise little to no regard]] towards international appeal. Meanwhile, the rise in fansubs and illegal torrenting discouraged dubbing companies from producing dubs for foreign audiences, who could easily download a fansubbed anime episode just hours after its Japanese airing for free. During this time, it became more popular to mock anime fans than to be one, with the {{Kawaiiko}} and OccidentalOtaku stereotypes becoming common insults against them. Despite the success of more popular non-moe anime in TheNewTens like ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'', ''WebComic/OnePunchMan'', and ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'', they weren't enough to bring the anime industry out of the dork age, and over-saturation, pirating, and the declining economy are still large issues. It has gotten to the point that as of late 2017, a group of anime fans have formed the [[https://www.flyingcolorsfoundation.org/ Flying Colors Foundation]], with the intent of connecting western anime fans to Japanese creators in hopes of bringing the industry out of the dork age once and for all.
28th Jan '18 10:58:10 AM DivineFlame100
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* The medium in general is still going through one, which started in 2008 with the success of the ''LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya'' anime, when there was a prominent shift towards LighterAndSofter {{Moe}} productions that [[PanderingToTheBase pandered]] to otakus, with [[AudienceALienatingPremise little to no regard]] towards international appeal. Meanwhile, the rise in fansubs and illegal torrenting discouraged dubbing companies from producing dubs for foreign audiences, who could easily download a fansubbed anime episode just hours after its Japanese airing for free. During this time, it became more popular to mock anime fans than to be one, with the {{Kawaiiko}} and OccidentalOtaku stereotypes becoming common insults against them. Despite the success of more popular non-moe anime in TheNewTens like ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'', ''WebComic/OnePunchMan'', and ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'', they weren't enough to bring the anime industry out of the dork age, and over-saturation, pirating, and the declining economy are still large issues. It has gotten to the point that a group of anime fans have formed the [[https://www.flyingcolorsfoundation.org/ Flying Colors Foundation]], with the intent of connecting western anime fans to Japanese creators in hopes of bringing the industry out of the dork age once and for all.

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* The medium in general is still going through one, which started in 2008 with the success of the ''LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya'' anime, when there was a prominent shift towards LighterAndSofter {{Moe}} productions that [[PanderingToTheBase pandered]] to otakus, with [[AudienceALienatingPremise little to no regard]] towards international appeal. Meanwhile, the rise in fansubs and illegal torrenting discouraged dubbing companies from producing dubs for foreign audiences, who could easily download a fansubbed anime episode just hours after its Japanese airing for free. During this time, it became more popular to mock anime fans than to be one, with the {{Kawaiiko}} and OccidentalOtaku stereotypes becoming common insults against them. Despite the success of more popular non-moe anime in TheNewTens like ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'', ''WebComic/OnePunchMan'', and ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'', they weren't enough to bring the anime industry out of the dork age, and over-saturation, pirating, and the declining economy are still large issues. It has gotten to the point that as of late 2017, a group of anime fans have formed the [[https://www.flyingcolorsfoundation.org/ Flying Colors Foundation]], with the intent of connecting western anime fans to Japanese creators in hopes of bringing the industry out of the dork age once and for all.
28th Jan '18 10:55:40 AM DivineFlame100
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* The medium in general was considered to be going through one from 2008-2012, when there was a prominent shift towards LighterAndSofter {{Moe}} productions that [[PanderingToTheBase pandered]] to otakus, with [[AudienceALienatingPremise little to no regard]] towards international appeal. Meanwhile, the rise in fansubs and illegal torrenting discouraged dubbing companies from producing dubs for foreign audiences, who could easily download a fansubbed anime episode just hours after its Japanese airing for free. During this time, it became more popular to mock anime fans than to be one, with the {{Kawaiiko}} and OccidentalOtaku stereotypes becoming common insults against them. The age ended around 2012 or so, since the airing of several well-received, non-moe anime in the following years and the revival of Creator/{{Toonami}} have [[WinBackTheCrowd spurred a renewed interest]] in anime & manga in the west and a gradually re-emerging interest in international appeal in the east (for instance, Toei Animation decided to [[{{Uncancelled}} uncancel]] ''Dragon Ball Kai'' as a result of the anime's wide appeal in the west).

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* The medium in general was considered to be is still going through one from 2008-2012, one, which started in 2008 with the success of the ''LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya'' anime, when there was a prominent shift towards LighterAndSofter {{Moe}} productions that [[PanderingToTheBase pandered]] to otakus, with [[AudienceALienatingPremise little to no regard]] towards international appeal. Meanwhile, the rise in fansubs and illegal torrenting discouraged dubbing companies from producing dubs for foreign audiences, who could easily download a fansubbed anime episode just hours after its Japanese airing for free. During this time, it became more popular to mock anime fans than to be one, with the {{Kawaiiko}} and OccidentalOtaku stereotypes becoming common insults against them. The age ended around 2012 or so, since Despite the airing success of several well-received, more popular non-moe anime in TheNewTens like ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'', ''WebComic/OnePunchMan'', and ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'', they weren't enough to bring the following years anime industry out of the dork age, and over-saturation, pirating, and the revival declining economy are still large issues. It has gotten to the point that a group of Creator/{{Toonami}} have [[WinBackTheCrowd spurred a renewed interest]] in anime & manga in fans have formed the west and a gradually re-emerging interest in international appeal in [[https://www.flyingcolorsfoundation.org/ Flying Colors Foundation]], with the east (for instance, Toei Animation decided intent of connecting western anime fans to [[{{Uncancelled}} uncancel]] ''Dragon Ball Kai'' as a result Japanese creators in hopes of bringing the industry out of the anime's wide appeal in the west).dork age once and for all.
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