History DorkAge / AnimeAndManga

18th Apr '16 1:44:54 PM mlsmithca
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* ''Manga/AstroBoy'' might be a classic, but not even it is immune to dork ages. In the sixties, Tezuka had Astro Boy go through a FaceHeelTurn, and wrote a story where a construction error turned Astro Boy evil. Instead of being a champion of justice who never wanted to hurt a human being, the evil Astro didn't care a bit about human lives anymore. Tezuka didn't actually like the idea of Astro Boy turning evil, but his editor insisted that an Astro Boy who killed people and destroyed buildings would be more interesting. Though Tezuka was fully aware that violent anti-heroes were the latest trend in manga, he didn't feel that it was the way to go for Astro Boy. Still, the editor [[ExecutiveMeddling made Tezuka change Astro.]] Tezuka himself was convinced that the readers preferred Astro to be a good-hearted robot, and was proven right when the readers turned out to have zero interest in reading about an evil Astro Boy. Tezuka [[HeelFaceTurn changed him back,]] but it took a lot of time and effort to get the series' popularity back.

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* ''Manga/AstroBoy'' might be a classic, but not even it is immune to dork ages. In the sixties, Tezuka had Astro Boy go through a FaceHeelTurn, and wrote a story where a construction error turned Astro Boy evil. Instead of being a champion of justice who never wanted to hurt a human being, the evil Astro didn't care a bit about human lives anymore. Tezuka didn't actually like the idea of Astro Boy turning evil, but his editor insisted that an Astro Boy who killed people and destroyed buildings would be more interesting. Though Tezuka was fully aware that violent anti-heroes were the latest trend in manga, he didn't feel that it was the way to go for Astro Boy. Still, the editor Boy, but his [[ExecutiveMeddling made Tezuka change Astro.editor insisted that an Astro Boy who killed people and destroyed buildings would be more interesting.]] Tezuka himself was convinced that the readers preferred Astro to be a good-hearted robot, and was proven right when the readers turned out to have zero interest in reading about an evil Astro Boy. Tezuka [[HeelFaceTurn changed him back,]] but it took a lot of time and effort to get the series' popularity back.
18th Apr '16 8:21:36 AM katethegr8
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* Not even ''Manga/OnePiece'' has remained unscratched. After Marineford, which is the climax of the first part of One Piece came Fishman Island and then Punk Hazard. Fishman Island was poorly received by fans, who cite the very slow pacing and weak villains as the reasons for disliking the season. Punk Hazard was better received, but not by much. Punk Hazard's problem, according to most, is that most of it was running.

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* %%* Not even ''Manga/OnePiece'' has remained unscratched. After Marineford, which is the climax of the first part of One Piece came Fishman Island and then Punk Hazard. Fishman Island was poorly received by fans, who cite the very slow pacing and weak villains as the reasons for disliking the season. Punk Hazard was better received, but not by much. Punk Hazard's problem, according to most, is that most of it was running.
14th Mar '16 9:45:02 PM bowserbros
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* The genre in general was considered to be going through one during the later years of the TurnOfTheMillennium and the first half of TheNewTens, when there was a prominent shift towards LighterAndSofter {{Moe}} productions and [[AudienceALienatingPremise little to no regard]] towards international appeal. Meanwhile, the rise in fansubs and illegal torrenting discouraged dubbing companies from producing dubs for foreign audiences, who could easily download a fansubbed anime episode just hours after its Japanese airing for free. During this time, it became more popular to mock anime fans than to be one, with the {{Kawaiiko}} and OccidentalOtaku stereotypes becoming common insults against them, in part because of the aforementioned rise in fansubs. The age is arguably considered to be ending nowadays, since the airing [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica of]] [[Anime/DragonBallKai several]] [[Manga/HunterXHunter well]]-[[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure received]], [[Manga/AttackOnTitan non]]-[[Anime/KillLaKill moe]] [[Anime/SpaceDandy anime]] [[Manga/PingPong in]] [[Manga/{{Parasyte}} recent]] [[Webcomic/OnePunchMan years]] and the revival of Toonami have [[WinBackTheCrowd spurred a renewed interest]] in anime & manga in the west and a gradually re-emerging interest in international appeal in the east (for instance, Toei Animation decided to continue ''Dragon Ball Kai'' into the Buu saga [after it had just wrapped up the Cell saga] as a result of the anime's wide appeal in the west).

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* The genre in general was considered to be going through one during the later years of the TurnOfTheMillennium and the first half of TheNewTens, when there was a prominent shift towards LighterAndSofter {{Moe}} productions and that [[PanderingToTheBase pandered]] to otakus, with [[AudienceALienatingPremise little to no regard]] towards international appeal. Meanwhile, the rise in fansubs and illegal torrenting discouraged dubbing companies from producing dubs for foreign audiences, who could easily download a fansubbed anime episode just hours after its Japanese airing for free. During this time, it became more popular to mock anime fans than to be one, with the {{Kawaiiko}} and OccidentalOtaku stereotypes becoming common insults against them, in part because of the aforementioned rise in fansubs. them. The age is arguably considered to be ending nowadays, since the airing [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica of]] [[Anime/DragonBallKai several]] [[Manga/HunterXHunter well]]-[[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure received]], [[Manga/AttackOnTitan non]]-[[Anime/KillLaKill moe]] [[Anime/SpaceDandy anime]] [[Manga/PingPong in]] [[Manga/{{Parasyte}} recent]] [[Webcomic/OnePunchMan years]] and the revival of Toonami have [[WinBackTheCrowd spurred a renewed interest]] in anime & manga in the west and a gradually re-emerging interest in international appeal in the east (for instance, Toei Animation decided to continue [[{{Uncancelled}} uncancel]] ''Dragon Ball Kai'' into the Buu saga [after it had just wrapped up the Cell saga] as a result of the anime's wide appeal in the west).
23rd Feb '16 6:34:41 PM LDragon2
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* The genre in general was considered to be going through one during the later years of the TurnOfTheMillennium and the first half of TheNewTens, when there was a prominent shift towards LighterAndSofter {{Moe}} productions and [[AudienceALienatingPremise little to no regard]] towards international appeal. Meanwhile, the rise in fansubs and illegal torrenting discouraged dubbing companies from producing dubs for foreign audiences, who could easily download a fansubbed anime episode just hours after its Japanese airing for free. During this time, it became more popular to mock anime fans than to be one, with the {{Kawaiiko}} and OccidentalOtaku stereotypes becoming common insults against them, in part because of the aforementioned rise in fansubs. The age is arguably considered to be ending nowadays, since the airing of [[Anime/DragonBallKai several]] [[Manga/HunterXHunter well]]-[[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure received]], [[Manga/AttackOnTitan non]]-[[Anime/KillLaKill moe]] [[Anime/SpaceDandy anime]] [[Manga/PingPong in]] [[Manga/{{Parasyte}} recent]] [[Webcomic/OnePunchMan years]] and the revival of Toonami have [[WinBackTheCrowd spurred a renewed interest]] in anime & manga in the west and a gradually re-emerging interest in international appeal in the east (for instance, Toei Animation decided to continue ''Dragon Ball Kai'' into the Buu saga [after it had just wrapped up the Cell saga] as a result of the anime's wide appeal in the west).

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* The genre in general was considered to be going through one during the later years of the TurnOfTheMillennium and the first half of TheNewTens, when there was a prominent shift towards LighterAndSofter {{Moe}} productions and [[AudienceALienatingPremise little to no regard]] towards international appeal. Meanwhile, the rise in fansubs and illegal torrenting discouraged dubbing companies from producing dubs for foreign audiences, who could easily download a fansubbed anime episode just hours after its Japanese airing for free. During this time, it became more popular to mock anime fans than to be one, with the {{Kawaiiko}} and OccidentalOtaku stereotypes becoming common insults against them, in part because of the aforementioned rise in fansubs. The age is arguably considered to be ending nowadays, since the airing of [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica of]] [[Anime/DragonBallKai several]] [[Manga/HunterXHunter well]]-[[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure received]], [[Manga/AttackOnTitan non]]-[[Anime/KillLaKill moe]] [[Anime/SpaceDandy anime]] [[Manga/PingPong in]] [[Manga/{{Parasyte}} recent]] [[Webcomic/OnePunchMan years]] and the revival of Toonami have [[WinBackTheCrowd spurred a renewed interest]] in anime & manga in the west and a gradually re-emerging interest in international appeal in the east (for instance, Toei Animation decided to continue ''Dragon Ball Kai'' into the Buu saga [after it had just wrapped up the Cell saga] as a result of the anime's wide appeal in the west).
17th Feb '16 10:23:35 PM NintendoNate25
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* The genre in general was considered to be going through one during the later years of the TurnOfTheMillennium and the first half of TheNewTens, when there was a prominent shift towards LighterAndSofter {{Moe}} productions and [[AudienceALienatingPremise little to no regard]] towards international appeal. Meanwhile, the rise in fansubs and illegal torrenting discouraged dubbing companies from producing dubs for foreign audiences, who could easily download a fansubbed anime episode just hours after its Japanese airing for free. During this time, it became more popular to mock anime fans than to be one, with the {{Kawaiiko}} and OccidentalOtaku stereotypes becoming common insults against them, in part because of the aforementioned rise in fansubs. The age is arguably considered to be ending nowadays, since the airing of [[Anime/DragonBallKai several]] [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure well]]-[[Manga/AttackOnTitan received]], [[Anime/KillLaKill non]]-[[Anime/SpaceDandy moe]] [[Manga/PingPong anime]] [[Manga/{{Parasyte}} in]] [[Webcomic/OnePunchMan recent years]] and the revival of Toonami have [[WinBackTheCrowd spurred a renewed interest]] in anime & manga in the west and a gradually re-emerging interest in international appeal in the east (for instance, Toei Animation decided to continue ''Dragon Ball Kai'' into the Buu saga [after it had just wrapped up the Cell saga] as a result of the anime's wide appeal in the west).

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* The genre in general was considered to be going through one during the later years of the TurnOfTheMillennium and the first half of TheNewTens, when there was a prominent shift towards LighterAndSofter {{Moe}} productions and [[AudienceALienatingPremise little to no regard]] towards international appeal. Meanwhile, the rise in fansubs and illegal torrenting discouraged dubbing companies from producing dubs for foreign audiences, who could easily download a fansubbed anime episode just hours after its Japanese airing for free. During this time, it became more popular to mock anime fans than to be one, with the {{Kawaiiko}} and OccidentalOtaku stereotypes becoming common insults against them, in part because of the aforementioned rise in fansubs. The age is arguably considered to be ending nowadays, since the airing of [[Anime/DragonBallKai several]] [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure well]]-[[Manga/AttackOnTitan [[Manga/HunterXHunter well]]-[[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure received]], [[Anime/KillLaKill non]]-[[Anime/SpaceDandy [[Manga/AttackOnTitan non]]-[[Anime/KillLaKill moe]] [[Anime/SpaceDandy anime]] [[Manga/PingPong anime]] in]] [[Manga/{{Parasyte}} in]] recent]] [[Webcomic/OnePunchMan recent years]] and the revival of Toonami have [[WinBackTheCrowd spurred a renewed interest]] in anime & manga in the west and a gradually re-emerging interest in international appeal in the east (for instance, Toei Animation decided to continue ''Dragon Ball Kai'' into the Buu saga [after it had just wrapped up the Cell saga] as a result of the anime's wide appeal in the west).
17th Feb '16 10:07:29 PM NintendoNate25
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* The genre in general was considered to be going through one during the later years of the TurnOfTheMillennium and the first half of TheNewTens, when there was a prominent shift towards LighterAndSofter {{Moe}} productions and [[AudienceALienatingPremise little to no regard]] towards international appeal. Meanwhile, the rise in fansubs and illegal torrenting discouraged dubbing companies from producing dubs for foreign audiences, who could easily download a fansubbed anime episode just hours after its Japanese airing for free. During this time, it became more popular to mock anime fans than to be one, with the {{Kawaiiko}} and OccidentalOtaku stereotypes becoming common insults against them, in part because of the aforementioned rise in fansubs. The age is arguably considered to be ending nowadays, since the airing of [[Anime/DragonBallKai several]] [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure well]]-[[Manga/AttackOnTitan received]], [[Anime/KillLaKill non]]-[[Manga/PingPong moe]] [[Manga/{{Parasyte}} anime]] [[Webcomic/OnePunchMan in recent years]] and the revival of Toonami have [[WinBackTheCrowd spurred a renewed interest]] in anime & manga in the west and a gradually re-emerging interest in international appeal in the east (for instance, Toei Animation decided to continue ''Dragon Ball Kai'' into the Buu saga [after it had just wrapped up the Cell saga] as a result of the anime's wide appeal in the west).

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* The genre in general was considered to be going through one during the later years of the TurnOfTheMillennium and the first half of TheNewTens, when there was a prominent shift towards LighterAndSofter {{Moe}} productions and [[AudienceALienatingPremise little to no regard]] towards international appeal. Meanwhile, the rise in fansubs and illegal torrenting discouraged dubbing companies from producing dubs for foreign audiences, who could easily download a fansubbed anime episode just hours after its Japanese airing for free. During this time, it became more popular to mock anime fans than to be one, with the {{Kawaiiko}} and OccidentalOtaku stereotypes becoming common insults against them, in part because of the aforementioned rise in fansubs. The age is arguably considered to be ending nowadays, since the airing of [[Anime/DragonBallKai several]] [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure well]]-[[Manga/AttackOnTitan received]], [[Anime/KillLaKill non]]-[[Manga/PingPong non]]-[[Anime/SpaceDandy moe]] [[Manga/PingPong anime]] [[Manga/{{Parasyte}} anime]] in]] [[Webcomic/OnePunchMan in recent years]] and the revival of Toonami have [[WinBackTheCrowd spurred a renewed interest]] in anime & manga in the west and a gradually re-emerging interest in international appeal in the east (for instance, Toei Animation decided to continue ''Dragon Ball Kai'' into the Buu saga [after it had just wrapped up the Cell saga] as a result of the anime's wide appeal in the west).
17th Feb '16 10:05:35 PM NintendoNate25
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* The genre in general was considered to be going through one during the later years of the TurnOfTheMillennium and the first half of TheNewTens, when there was a prominent shift towards LighterAndSofter {{Moe}} productions and [[AudienceALienatingPremise little to no regard]] towards international appeal. Meanwhile, the rise in fansubs and illegal torrenting discouraged dubbing companies from producing dubs for foreign audiences, who could easily download a fansubbed anime episode just hours after its Japanese airing for free. During this time, it became more popular to mock anime fans than to be one, with the {{Kawaiiko}} and OccidentalOtaku stereotypes becoming common insults against them, in part because of the aforementioned rise in fansubs. The age is arguably considered to be ending nowadays, since the airing of [[Anime/DragonBallKai several]] [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure well]]-[[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY received]], [[Anime/KillLaKill non]]-[[Webcomic/OnePunchMan moe]] anime in recent years and the revival of Toonami have [[WinBackTheCrowd spurred a renewed interest]] in anime & manga in the west and a gradually re-emerging interest in international appeal in the east (for instance, Toei Animation decided to continue ''Dragon Ball Kai'' into the Buu saga [after it had just wrapped up the Cell saga] as a result of the anime's wide appeal in the west).

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* The genre in general was considered to be going through one during the later years of the TurnOfTheMillennium and the first half of TheNewTens, when there was a prominent shift towards LighterAndSofter {{Moe}} productions and [[AudienceALienatingPremise little to no regard]] towards international appeal. Meanwhile, the rise in fansubs and illegal torrenting discouraged dubbing companies from producing dubs for foreign audiences, who could easily download a fansubbed anime episode just hours after its Japanese airing for free. During this time, it became more popular to mock anime fans than to be one, with the {{Kawaiiko}} and OccidentalOtaku stereotypes becoming common insults against them, in part because of the aforementioned rise in fansubs. The age is arguably considered to be ending nowadays, since the airing of [[Anime/DragonBallKai several]] [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure well]]-[[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY well]]-[[Manga/AttackOnTitan received]], [[Anime/KillLaKill non]]-[[Webcomic/OnePunchMan non]]-[[Manga/PingPong moe]] anime [[Manga/{{Parasyte}} anime]] [[Webcomic/OnePunchMan in recent years years]] and the revival of Toonami have [[WinBackTheCrowd spurred a renewed interest]] in anime & manga in the west and a gradually re-emerging interest in international appeal in the east (for instance, Toei Animation decided to continue ''Dragon Ball Kai'' into the Buu saga [after it had just wrapped up the Cell saga] as a result of the anime's wide appeal in the west).
27th Jan '16 3:10:37 PM bowserbros
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* The genre in general was considered to be going through one during the later years of the TurnOfTheMillennium and the first half of TheNewTens, when there was a prominent shift towards LighterAndSofter {{Moe}} productions and [[AudienceALienatingPremise little to no regard]] towards international appeal. Meanwhile, the rise in fansubs and illegal torrenting discouraged dubbing companies from producing dubs for foreign audiences, who could easily download a fansubbed anime episode just hours after its Japanese airing for free. During this time, it became more popular to mock anime fans than to be one, with the "kawaii desu-ka" and OccidentalOtaku stereotypes becoming common insults against them, in part because of the aforementioned rise in fansubs. The age is arguably considered to be ending nowadays, since the airing of [[Anime/DragonBallKai several]] [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure well]]-[[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY received]], [[Anime/KillLaKill non]]-[[Webcomic/OnePunchMan moe]] anime in recent years and the revival of Toonami have spurred a renewed interest in anime & manga in the west and a gradually re-emerging interest in international appeal in the east (for instance, Toei Animation decided to continue ''Dragon Ball Kai'' into the Buu saga [after it had just wrapped up the Cell saga] as a result of the anime's wide appeal in the west).

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* The genre in general was considered to be going through one during the later years of the TurnOfTheMillennium and the first half of TheNewTens, when there was a prominent shift towards LighterAndSofter {{Moe}} productions and [[AudienceALienatingPremise little to no regard]] towards international appeal. Meanwhile, the rise in fansubs and illegal torrenting discouraged dubbing companies from producing dubs for foreign audiences, who could easily download a fansubbed anime episode just hours after its Japanese airing for free. During this time, it became more popular to mock anime fans than to be one, with the "kawaii desu-ka" {{Kawaiiko}} and OccidentalOtaku stereotypes becoming common insults against them, in part because of the aforementioned rise in fansubs. The age is arguably considered to be ending nowadays, since the airing of [[Anime/DragonBallKai several]] [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure well]]-[[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY received]], [[Anime/KillLaKill non]]-[[Webcomic/OnePunchMan moe]] anime in recent years and the revival of Toonami have [[WinBackTheCrowd spurred a renewed interest interest]] in anime & manga in the west and a gradually re-emerging interest in international appeal in the east (for instance, Toei Animation decided to continue ''Dragon Ball Kai'' into the Buu saga [after it had just wrapped up the Cell saga] as a result of the anime's wide appeal in the west).
27th Jan '16 11:09:53 AM bowserbros
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* The genre in general was considered to be going through one during the later years of the TurnOfTheMillennium and the first half of TheNewTens, when there was a prominent shift towards LighterAndSofter {{Moe}} productions and little to no regard towards international appeal. Meanwhile, the rise in fansubs and illegal torrenting discouraged dubbing companies from producing dubs for foreign audiences, who could easily download a fansubbed anime episode just hours after its Japanese airing for free. During this time, it became more popular to mock anime fans than to be one, with the "kawaii desu-ka" and OccidentalOtaku stereotypes becoming common insults against them, in part because of the aforementioned rise in fansubs. The age is arguably considered to be ending nowadays, since the airing of [[Anime/DragonBallKai several]] [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure well]]-[[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY received]], [[Anime/KillLaKill non]]-[[Webcomic/OnePunchMan moe]] anime in recent years and the revival of Toonami have spurred a renewed interest in anime & manga in the west and a gradually re-emerging interest in international appeal in the east (for instance, Toei Animation decided to continue ''Dragon Ball Kai'' into the Buu saga [after it had just wrapped up the Cell saga] as a result of the anime's wide appeal in the west).

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* The genre in general was considered to be going through one during the later years of the TurnOfTheMillennium and the first half of TheNewTens, when there was a prominent shift towards LighterAndSofter {{Moe}} productions and [[AudienceALienatingPremise little to no regard regard]] towards international appeal. Meanwhile, the rise in fansubs and illegal torrenting discouraged dubbing companies from producing dubs for foreign audiences, who could easily download a fansubbed anime episode just hours after its Japanese airing for free. During this time, it became more popular to mock anime fans than to be one, with the "kawaii desu-ka" and OccidentalOtaku stereotypes becoming common insults against them, in part because of the aforementioned rise in fansubs. The age is arguably considered to be ending nowadays, since the airing of [[Anime/DragonBallKai several]] [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure well]]-[[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY received]], [[Anime/KillLaKill non]]-[[Webcomic/OnePunchMan moe]] anime in recent years and the revival of Toonami have spurred a renewed interest in anime & manga in the west and a gradually re-emerging interest in international appeal in the east (for instance, Toei Animation decided to continue ''Dragon Ball Kai'' into the Buu saga [after it had just wrapped up the Cell saga] as a result of the anime's wide appeal in the west).
27th Jan '16 11:07:54 AM bowserbros
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* The genre in general was considered to be going through one during the later years of the TurnOfTheMillennium and the first half of TheNewTens, when there was a prominent shift towards LighterAndSofter {{Moe}} productions and little to no regard towards international appeal. Meanwhile, the rise in fansubs and illegal torrenting discouraged dubbing companies from producing dubs for foreign audiences, who could easily download a fansubbed anime episode just hours after its Japanese airing for free. During this time, it became more popular to mock anime fans than to be one, with the "kawaii desu-ka" and OccidentalOtaku stereotypes becoming common insults against them, in part because of the aforementioned rise in fansubs. The age is arguably considered to be ending nowadays, since the airing of [[Anime/DragonBallKai several]] [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure well]]-[[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY received]], [[Webcomic/OnePunchMan non-moe]] anime in recent years and the revival of Toonami have spurred a renewed interest in anime & manga in the west and a gradually re-emerging interest in international appeal in the east (for instance, Toei Animation decided to continue ''Dragon Ball Kai'' into the Buu saga [after it had just wrapped up the Cell saga] as a result of the anime's wide appeal in the west).

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* The genre in general was considered to be going through one during the later years of the TurnOfTheMillennium and the first half of TheNewTens, when there was a prominent shift towards LighterAndSofter {{Moe}} productions and little to no regard towards international appeal. Meanwhile, the rise in fansubs and illegal torrenting discouraged dubbing companies from producing dubs for foreign audiences, who could easily download a fansubbed anime episode just hours after its Japanese airing for free. During this time, it became more popular to mock anime fans than to be one, with the "kawaii desu-ka" and OccidentalOtaku stereotypes becoming common insults against them, in part because of the aforementioned rise in fansubs. The age is arguably considered to be ending nowadays, since the airing of [[Anime/DragonBallKai several]] [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure well]]-[[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY received]], [[Webcomic/OnePunchMan non-moe]] [[Anime/KillLaKill non]]-[[Webcomic/OnePunchMan moe]] anime in recent years and the revival of Toonami have spurred a renewed interest in anime & manga in the west and a gradually re-emerging interest in international appeal in the east (for instance, Toei Animation decided to continue ''Dragon Ball Kai'' into the Buu saga [after it had just wrapped up the Cell saga] as a result of the anime's wide appeal in the west).
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