History DorkAge / AnimeAndManga

4th Jul '17 3:55:40 PM Isaac_Heller
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** In general, when the anime goes through a DorkAge, it gets a lot of fan backlash (which sometimes extends to Ash and Pikachu themselves) due to its ubiquity and effect on other parts of the franchise. It also should be noted that said fans are the PeripheryDemographic, since the target audience appear to have had much fewer problems with Johto and Unova.[[note]]particularly the latter, which was most stable in the ratings throughout its run, whereas there was a noteworthy drop-off in Johto due to the ''Pokemon'' fad in general dying down in popularity.[[/note]]
30th May '17 9:15:09 AM MyFinalEdits
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** Oddly enough, the medium suffered another, much more severe, one that lasted from the late 90s to around 2005, with an incredible amount of low-quality, low-budget and low-story anime swamping the market, but it often seems to be forgotten about in favour of the more recent one.
30th May '17 8:13:00 AM TheKaizerreich
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** Oddly enough, the medium suffered another, much more severe, one that lasted from the late 90s to around 2005, with an incredible amount of low-quality, low-budget and low-story anime swamping the market, but it often seems to be forgotten about in favour of the more recent one.
7th May '17 12:40:30 AM ReikoKazama
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** Overseas fans of the series tend to look down on ''[[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureVentoAureo Vento Aureo]]'' due to the perception of main protagonist Giorno as bland and uninteresting (though translations may be to blame for this), the extremely-formulaic MonsterOfTheWeek nature that exacerbated the flaws of the previous two parts' plot styles, the [[{{Narm}} narmily]]-[[WTHCostumingAgency designed]] and overly-generic villain Diavolo, and the ending, which reeks of DeusExMachina even by ''[=JoJo=]'' standards. Detractors take particular ire towards Giorno, who for the latter reason plus the fact that he's the illegitimate son of [[GreaterScopeVillain D]][[CrazyAwesome I]][[MagnificentBastard O]] (even reappropriating his battle cry of "MUDA MUDA MUDA") comes off as somewhat of a MartyStu.

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** Overseas fans of the series tend to look down on ''[[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureVentoAureo Vento Aureo]]'' due to the perception of main protagonist Giorno as bland and uninteresting (though translations may be to blame for this), the extremely-formulaic MonsterOfTheWeek nature that exacerbated the flaws of the previous two parts' plot styles, the [[{{Narm}} narmily]]-[[WTHCostumingAgency narmily]]-[[WTHCostumingDepartment designed]] and overly-generic villain Diavolo, and the ending, which reeks of DeusExMachina even by ''[=JoJo=]'' standards. Detractors take particular ire towards Giorno, who for the latter reason plus the fact that he's the illegitimate son of [[GreaterScopeVillain D]][[CrazyAwesome I]][[MagnificentBastard O]] (even reappropriating his battle cry of "MUDA MUDA MUDA") comes off as somewhat of a MartyStu.
16th Mar '17 8:16:13 PM MyFinalEdits
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* ''Anime/{{Mobile Suit Gundam|Age}} [[{{Irony}} AGE]]'' is simply condemned a mediocre and a mixed bag inconsistent attempt with [[GenerationalSaga a multi-generational plot]]. Some fans criticize it for [[TastesLikeDiabetes looking too childish]], others says it [[RecycledScript rips off everything the previous Gundams had]], others notice that the series digs deeper and deeper into having [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy needless deaths, violence]] and [[IdiotPlot stupidities]]. The 2nd arc is considered better, but the 3rd arc pushes the series into rock bottom.
** This is probably why the OVA for that series, ''Memory of Eden'', decided to focus more on the second arc, to the point that it [[DemotedToExtra demotes Kio to a forgettable background character]] by the time the 3rd Generation comes along.

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* ''Anime/{{Mobile Suit Gundam|Age}} [[{{Irony}} AGE]]'' ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamAge'' is simply condemned a mediocre and a mixed bag inconsistent attempt with [[GenerationalSaga a multi-generational plot]]. Some fans criticize it for [[TastesLikeDiabetes looking too childish]], others says it [[RecycledScript rips off everything the previous Gundams had]], others notice that the series digs deeper and deeper into having [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy needless deaths, violence]] and [[IdiotPlot stupidities]]. The 2nd arc is considered better, but the 3rd arc pushes the series into rock bottom.
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bottom. This is probably explains why the OVA for that series, ''Memory of Eden'', decided to focus more on the second arc, to the point that it [[DemotedToExtra demotes Kio to a forgettable side background character]] by the time the 3rd Generation comes along.
16th Mar '17 7:37:59 PM Rmpdc
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** This is probably why the OVA for that series, ''Memory of Eden'', decided to focus more on the second arc, to the point that it [[DemotedToExtra demotes Kio to a forgettable background character]] by the time the 3rd Generation comes along.
23rd Feb '17 8:26:01 AM PurrElise
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* Majority of fans believed that Creator/{{Clamp}} entered the Dork Age when their first original anime, ''Anime/BloodC'', took off which earn a LoveItOrHateIt reaction from viewers and poor BD sales for having a FailureHeroine which invokes a lot of GenreBlindness, IdiotPlot and [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy the needless gore and violence]]. Though many argued that the dork age started when the last chapters of ''Manga/TsubasaReservoirChronicle'' enter into MindScrew territory and the NoEnding of ''Manga/{{Xxxholic}}''. Clamp is now trying to WinBackTheCrowd by continuing ''Tsubasa'' and ''xxxHolic'' in order to fix the problem, the sales went down on its second week which indicates that Clamp really needs to step up from their game to pass the dork age.

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* Majority of fans believed that Creator/{{Clamp}} Creator/{{CLAMP}} entered the Dork Age when their first original anime, ''Anime/BloodC'', took off which earn a LoveItOrHateIt reaction from viewers and poor BD sales for having a FailureHeroine which invokes a lot of GenreBlindness, IdiotPlot and [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy the needless gore and violence]]. Though many argued that the dork age started when the last chapters of ''Manga/TsubasaReservoirChronicle'' enter into MindScrew territory and the NoEnding of ''Manga/{{Xxxholic}}''. Clamp CLAMP is now trying to WinBackTheCrowd by continuing ''Tsubasa'' and ''xxxHolic'' in order to fix the problem, the sales went down on its second week which indicates that Clamp CLAMP really needs to step up from their game to pass the dork age.
17th Dec '16 4:34:21 PM Isaac_Heller
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** While a sour taste was left by the Kalos League, the X and Y series was still considered to have been a pretty good series with awesome battles and beautiful animation. Things changed with ''Sun and Moon'', which got criticized for the design and portrayal of Ash and for ditching the more loved aspects of prior seasons and generations.
14th Dec '16 6:28:33 PM MyFinalEdits
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** While a sour taste was left by the Kalos League, the X and Y series was still felt to have been a pretty good series with awesome battles and beautiful animation. Then we got a look at the character designs for Sun and Moon. The situation was not improved by Ash (veteran of six regions) running around like an ADHD ten-year-old with a caffeine addiction. Even during his worst moments of the original series, and Unova, Ash wasn't this spastic. [[INeedAFreakingDrink On the plus side]] [[DrowningMySorrows most of the older fans are now legally allowed to drink]].

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** While a sour taste was left by the Kalos League, the X and Y series was still felt considered to have been a pretty good series with awesome battles and beautiful animation. Then we got a look at the character designs for Sun and Moon. The situation was not improved by Ash (veteran of six regions) running around like an ADHD ten-year-old Things changed with a caffeine addiction. Even during his worst moments of ''Sun and Moon'', which got criticized for the original series, design and Unova, portrayal of Ash wasn't this spastic. [[INeedAFreakingDrink On and for ditching the plus side]] [[DrowningMySorrows most more loved aspects of the older fans are now legally allowed to drink]].prior seasons and generations.
14th Dec '16 9:14:57 AM JediMasterDraco
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** While a sour taste was left by the Kalos League, the X and Y series was still felt to have been a pretty good series with awesome battles and beautiful animation. Then we got a look at the character designs for Sun and Moon. The situation was not improved by Ash (veteran of six regions) running around like an ADHD ten-year-old with a caffeine addiction. Even during his worst moments of the original series, and Unova, Ash wasn't this spastic. [[INeedAFreakingDrink On the plus side]] [[DrowningMySorrows most of the older fans are now legally allowed to drink]].
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