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15th Jun '18 7:15:21 PM nombretomado
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* {{Foil}}: Kovu serves as a positive foil to Simba in both his adult and childhood life. Simba as a cub was immature, arrogant, and didn't really understand the implications for being a king, while Kovu as a cub was mature, took the blame when Zira lashed out at Nuka, and straight up says he wants nothing to do with Zira's megalomania. Simba as an adult has to be persuaded to return to the Pride Lands by his deceased father, while Kovu returns to the Pride Lands willingly as an adult, but turns on his adopted mother when he realizes she is evil. Both are framed for crimes they did not commit, but while Simba spends a whole life convinced he committed said crime, Kovu remains adamant he is innocent, and is cleared quite quickly. Simba overthrows his EvilUncle and takes the throne violently, while Kovu marries into the royal family and will become the king through a peaceful succession.
26th May '18 4:43:43 PM nombretomado
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* BeYourself: A major theme in the film is Kiara and Kovu struggling to overcome the desires of their parents to be who they want them to be. Kiara desires to be herself instead of just being queen, while Kovu wants nothing to do with serving as Zira's puppet, and just wants to have a friend.
26th May '18 12:24:33 PM nombretomado
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* ChildrenAreInnocent: Kovu doesn't see anything wrong with befriending Kiara, and he is completely confused when Zira sees at as a chance at revenge. He also doesn't want any power, when Zira proclaims it as their return to power.

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* ChildrenAreInnocent: Kovu doesn't see anything wrong with befriending Kiara, and he is completely confused when Zira sees at it as a chance at revenge. He also doesn't want any power, when Zira proclaims it as their return to power.
25th May '18 5:53:38 PM nombretomado
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* ChildrenAreInnocent: Kovu doesn't see anything wrong with befriending Kiara, and he is completely confused when Zira sees at as a chance at revenge. He also doesn't want any power, when Zira proclaims it as their return to power.


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* ParentalAbandonment: Kovu is stated by several characters including himself that his biological father is missing. WordOfGod also revealed that he is an orphan[[note]], which actually makes a lot of sense given his age in the film, whereas if he had truly been related to Scar, or as old as Zira claimed he was, he probably would have been around Nuka's age at least, and not the same age as Kiara.[[/note]]


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* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: Kovu's innocent action of playing with Kiara unknowingly set the plot in motion, as Zira realizes that she can use the friendship as a means of having Kovu getting close to Simba and kill him.
* VillainBall: Zira grabs it hard. For a starter, she was well aware Kovu wanted absolutely nothing to do with the plot. It is also heavily implied that she knew Kovu might not go through with it even before the whole plan started. She had absolutely no leverage to ensure he could stay loyal. The entire plan was practically gambling he would stay loyal. Needless to say, she probably should have chosen Vitani or especially Nuka, as Kovu was a terrible choice from the start.
24th May '18 5:03:24 PM nombretomado
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* BeautyEqualsGoodness: {{Justified|Trope}}, since the Outlanders are only skinny and sunken-eyed from not getting enough to eat. After being accepted into Simba's pride, they're shown with the same build as the Pridelands' lionesses.

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* BeautyEqualsGoodness: {{Justified|Trope}}, since BeautyEqualsGoodness:
** {{Justified|Trope}} with
the Outlanders Outlanders, as they are only skinny and sunken-eyed from not getting enough to eat. After being accepted into Simba's pride, they're shown with the same build as the Pridelands' lionesses.lionesses.
** Played straight with Kovu, who is the most well kept of the Outsiders and quickly becomes the most heroic, given that he defects in roughly half a day.
20th May '18 6:29:42 PM nombretomado
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* WhatMeasureIsANonHuman: Zira's constant abuse of Nuka, both physical, psychological, and neglectful, the effects it had on him, along with his urgent desire to gain his affection is always used as comedy due to the fact they are lions, whereas if it had been humans, it would have been treated as deadly serious.

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* WhatMeasureIsANonHuman: Zira's constant abuse of Nuka, both physical, psychological, and neglectful, the effects it had on him, along with his urgent desire to gain his her affection is always used as comedy due to the fact they are lions, whereas if it had been humans, it would have been treated as deadly serious.
20th May '18 5:14:34 PM nombretomado
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* WhatMeasureIsANonHuman: Zira's constant abuse of Nuka, both physical, psychological, and neglectful, the effects it had on him, along with his urgent desire to gain his affection is always used as comedy due to the fact they are lions, whereas if it had been humans, it would have been treated as deadly serious.
6th May '18 10:26:15 PM system
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* {{Expy}}:
** Kovu is Romeo, and Kiara is Juliet, from ''Theatre/RomeoAndJuliet''.

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* {{Expy}}:
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{{Expy}}: Kovu is Romeo, and Kiara is Juliet, from ''Theatre/RomeoAndJuliet''.



* FamilyUnfriendlyDeath:
** The film shows [[spoiler:Nuka]] being crushed to death by logs while trying to earn his mother's love and respect.
** [[spoiler:Zira's]] fall into the ravine after refusing help is a classic DisneyVillainDeath, but there's a deleted scene in which she ''commits suicide''. The fan-base is divided on whether it was best to change it.

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* FamilyUnfriendlyDeath:
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FamilyUnfriendlyDeath: The film shows [[spoiler:Nuka]] being crushed to death by logs while trying to earn his mother's love and respect.
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respect. [[spoiler:Zira's]] fall into the ravine after refusing help is a classic DisneyVillainDeath, but there's a deleted scene in which she ''commits suicide''. The fan-base is divided on whether it was best to change it.



* HollywoodHealing: Two instances:
** The first one is that Kovu has just been kicked headfirst into a rock. Less than a minute later, he has recovered, with no injury, and no real sign of a concussion later on in the film. Simba despite being mauled, and brutally injured, recovers to full health in what is implied to be just 12 hours.
** Another instance is the final battle, where despite pretty much every single lioness being involved in the fight, no one has a potential problem walking. Then there is the scene of Kiara crashing down the rocks really quickly, which should have caused serious burns from the friction at least.

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* HollywoodHealing: Two instances:
** The first one is that
Kovu has just been kicked headfirst into a rock. Less than a minute later, he has recovered, with no injury, and no real sign of a concussion later on in the film. Simba despite being mauled, and brutally injured, recovers to full health in what is implied to be just 12 hours. \n** Another instance is the final battle, where despite pretty much every single lioness being involved in the fight, no one has a potential problem walking. Then there is the scene of Kiara crashing down the rocks really quickly, which should have caused serious burns from the friction at least.



* InevitableWaterfall:
** In the "Upendi" song.

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* InevitableWaterfall:
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InevitableWaterfall: In the "Upendi" song.
6th May '18 8:49:00 PM system
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