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5th Dec '17 8:10:03 PM DisneyFan94
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* AdvertisedExtra: Zazu, despite his [[DemotedToExtra limited screentime]], has a McDonalds toy like the more prominent characters such as Timon, Pumbaa, Rafiki, Simba, Zira, Kiara and Kovu.
21st Nov '17 8:43:39 AM NekoHybrid
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* {{Expy}}: The movie is basically the lion version of Romeo and Juliet. Two warring lion prides, and the offspring from each are in love.
24th Sep '17 12:55:10 AM AnthonyA
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Following on from the previous film's epilogue, Simba has assumed kingship of the Pride Lands after Scar's defeat and gained a daughter with Nala, Kiara. As she grows older the princess becomes rebellious towards her father's rules, and falls in love with Kovu, a lion from a banished pride called the Outsiders. The other pride's members were ousted by Simba because they refused to submit to him and continued to follow Scar even in death. Scar's former mate Zira, Kovu's mother, sees her son as the reincarnation of Scar's legacy and plots revenge against Simba through her son's romance with Kiara.

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Following on from the previous film's epilogue, Simba has assumed kingship of the Pride Lands after Scar's defeat and gained a daughter with Nala, Nala named Kiara. As she grows older older, the princess becomes rebellious towards her father's rules, rules and falls in love with Kovu, a lion from a banished pride called the Outsiders. The other pride's members were ousted by Simba because they refused to submit to him and continued to follow Scar Scar, even in death. Scar's former mate Zira, Kovu's mother, sees her son as the reincarnation of Scar's legacy and plots revenge against Simba through her son's romance with Kiara.



-->'''Kovu''': I did nothing!
-->'''Zira''': Exactly! And in doing so, you betrayed your pride, betrayed Scar!
-->'''Kovu''': I want nothing more to do with him!
-->'''Zira''': You cannot escape it! [[spoiler:Nuka is dead because of you! You've killed your own brother!]]
-->'''Kovu''': [[BigNo NO!]] ''[he runs off]''

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-->'''Kovu''': I did nothing!
''nothing!''
-->'''Zira''': Exactly! And in doing so, you betrayed your pride, betrayed Scar!
pride! Betrayed ''Scar!''
-->'''Kovu''': I want nothing more to do with him!
him!
-->'''Zira''': You cannot escape it! [[spoiler:Nuka is dead because of you! You've ''you!'']]
-->'''Kovu''': No.
-->'''Zira''': [[spoiler:You've
killed your own brother!]]
''brother!'']]
-->'''Kovu''': [[BigNo NO!]] NOOO!!!]] ''[he runs off]''



* AlasPoorVillain: When [[spoiler:[[WellDoneSonGuy Nuka]] goes after Simba on the dam, whilst proclaiming "I'll do it for YOU MOTHER! -- I'll do it for you.. And I'll do it for ''me''!", and he inadvertedly gets dislodged, [[DisneyVillainDeath falls]] and manages to tell [[BigBad Zira]] "I'm sorry mother... I... ''tried''..." causing Zira to go from WhatHaveIDone to NeverMyFault in under three seconds flat.]]

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* AlasPoorVillain: When [[spoiler:[[WellDoneSonGuy Nuka]] goes after Simba on the dam, whilst proclaiming "I'll do it for YOU MOTHER! -- I'll do it for you.. And I'll do it for ''me''!", and he inadvertedly gets dislodged, [[DisneyVillainDeath falls]] and manages to tell [[BigBad Zira]] "I'm sorry mother... I... ''tried''..." causing sorry, Mother. I tried," making Zira to go from WhatHaveIDone to NeverMyFault in under three seconds flat.]]
19th Sep '17 9:10:49 PM tyrekecorrea
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-->'''Timon:''' ''(gesturing to himself then Pumbaa)'' Timon...Pumbaa... Great, [[LampshadeHanging now that we all know each other...]] [[SuddenlyShouting GET OFF OF OUR PRIDELANDS!]]

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-->'''Timon:''' ''(gesturing to himself then Pumbaa)'' Timon...Pumbaa... Great, [[LampshadeHanging now that we all know each other...]] [[SuddenlyShouting GET OFF OUT OF OUR PRIDELANDS!]]
19th Sep '17 9:04:07 PM tyrekecorrea
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* HopeSpot: Kovu and Simba seem to be bonding, and it looks like Simba will actually accept him. Then Zira arrives, and congratulates Kovu, for something he did not do.

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* HopeSpot: Kovu and Simba seem to be bonding, and it looks like Simba will actually accept him. Then Zira arrives, and congratulates Kovu, Kovu for something he did not do.
19th Sep '17 9:03:33 PM gjjones
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* GenerationXerox: The main theme of the movie is to defy this idea. Simba does everything he can to emulate Mufasa and refuses to see Kovu as anything other than Scar 2.0. After a mighty WhatTheHellHero from Kiara he gets better though.

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* GenerationXerox: The main theme of the movie is to defy this idea. Simba does everything he can to emulate Mufasa and refuses to see Kovu as anything other than Scar 2.0. After Kiara gives him a mighty WhatTheHellHero from Kiara WhamLine, he gets better though.



--> ''(Kovu shivers noisily in fear)''

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--> ''(Kovu [[OhCrap shivers noisily in fear)'' fear]])''
19th Sep '17 9:01:00 PM tyrekecorrea
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''(Kovu shivers noisily in fear)'' \\

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--> ''(Kovu shivers noisily in fear)'' \\
19th Sep '17 8:59:10 PM tyrekecorrea
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''(Kovu shivers noisily in fear)'' \\



-->'''Simba''': You know the penalty for returning to the Pridelands

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-->'''Simba''': You know the penalty for returning to the PridelandsPridelands.
19th Sep '17 8:52:40 PM tyrekecorrea
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* BilingualBonus: Like the original ''Lion King'', there's quite a bit of Swahili: Kovu means "scar"; Zira is the verb radical of "hate"; Vitani is a {{Portmanteau}} of Vita ("war") and Shetani ("demon"); Nuka means "stink"; Upendi is the noun form of "love". Kiara is Latin for "bright" and when it was introduced in Africa, it came to mean someone of importance, fitting for Kiara being the heir to the throne, and also due to her important role in the plot.
* BlackAndWhiteMorality: This trope is played with. Whereas [[Disney/TheLionKing the original movie]] played the trope straight (Scar and the hyenas are evil; everyone else is good), the sequel sets itself up the same way (lions in the Pridelands are good; lions in the Outlands are bad), then subverts partly the trope (see below GreyAndGrayMorality). In the end, though, the Pridelanders are clearly shown as the right side. The solution of the conflict is less a compromise between the two parties than an acknowldegment by Outlanders about their wrong. The recalcitrant one, Zira, gets killed.

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* BilingualBonus: Like the original ''Lion King'', there's quite a bit of Swahili: Kovu means "scar"; Zira is the verb radical of "hate"; Vitani is a {{Portmanteau}} of Vita ("war") and Shetani ("demon"); Nuka means "stink"; Upendi is the noun form of "love". Kiara is Latin for "bright" and when it was introduced in Africa, it came to mean someone of importance, fitting for Kiara being the heir to the throne, and also due to her important role in the plot.
plot. Also, "Kiara" means "princess" in Swahili.
* BlackAndWhiteMorality: This trope is played with. Whereas [[Disney/TheLionKing the original movie]] played the trope straight (Scar and the hyenas are evil; everyone else is good), the sequel sets itself up the same way (lions in the Pridelands are good; lions in the Outlands are bad), then subverts partly the trope (see below GreyAndGrayMorality). In the end, though, the Pridelanders are clearly shown as the right side. The solution of the conflict is less a compromise between the two parties than an acknowldegment by Outlanders about their wrong. The recalcitrant one, Zira, gets killed.
18th Sep '17 7:21:46 PM gjjones
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* RedemptionRejection: After [[spoiler:Kiara convinces the other Outsiders to join the Pridelanders, Simba attempts to convince Zira to abandon her plans for revenge]]. It doesn't work.
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