History Disney / TheHunchbackOfNotreDame

11th Feb '18 12:28:53 PM fruitstripegum
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* DeathByIrony: ''"And He shall smite the wicked and plunge them into a fiery pit!"'' [[spoiler: Ask and ye shall receive...]]



* DeathByIrony: ''"And He shall smite the wicked and plunge them into a fiery pit!"'' [[spoiler: Ask and ye shall receive...]]
6th Feb '18 7:37:43 AM Anorgil
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* MoralityChain: There is only one thing keeping Frollo in check for a good 50% of the movie: the Archdeacon. He constantly reminds Frollo of his mortality, and also that even though he can deny his atrocities, he can never hide his crimes against the Almighty. He's constantly reminding Frollo of his place, but Frollo doesn't like it ''one bit''.

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* MoralityChain: There is only one thing keeping Frollo in check for a good 50% of the movie: the Archdeacon. He constantly reminds Frollo of his mortality, and also that even though he can deny his atrocities, he can never hide his crimes against the Almighty. He's constantly reminding Frollo of his place, but Frollo doesn't like it ''one bit''. By the end of the film, not even the Archdeacon can hold him back.
3rd Feb '18 5:31:31 AM LB7979
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In medieval France, the corrupt and sinister Judge Claude Frollo once uncovered several Gypsies trying to enter Paris with an unidentified and bundled object. One of them attempted to escape with it and Frollo ran her down, indirectly causing her death. It is then that Frollo realized that the woman was carrying a baby, and, disgusted by the infant's deformity, nearly drowned the child in a well when he is stopped by the [[GoodShepherd Archdeacon]]. He warned Frollo that his sin of spilling innocent blood must be atoned for and has Frdaollo care for the child as his own. Frollo reluctantly agrees to do so, with the stipulation that the child - whom he names Quasimodo ([[MeaningfulName meaning "half-formed"]]) -- reside in the bell tower of the cathedral, never to be seen by public eyes.

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In medieval France, the corrupt and sinister Judge Claude Frollo once uncovered several Gypsies trying to enter Paris with an unidentified and bundled object. One of them attempted to escape with it and Frollo ran her down, indirectly causing her death. It is then that Frollo realized that the woman was carrying a baby, and, disgusted by the infant's deformity, nearly drowned the child in a well when he is stopped by the [[GoodShepherd Archdeacon]]. He warned Frollo that his sin of spilling innocent blood must be atoned for and has Frdaollo Frollo care for the child as his own. Frollo reluctantly agrees to do so, with the stipulation that the child - whom he names Quasimodo ([[MeaningfulName meaning "half-formed"]]) -- reside in the bell tower of the cathedral, never to be seen by public eyes.
2nd Feb '18 1:28:10 PM annieholmes
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In medieval France, the corrupt and sinister Judge Claude Frollo once uncovered several Gypsies trying to enter Paris with an unidentified and bundled object. One of them attempted to escape with it and Frollo ran her down, indirectly causing her death. It is then that Frollo realized that the woman was carrying a baby, and, disgusted by the infant's deformity, nearly drowned the child in a well when he is stopped by the [[GoodShepherd Archdeacon]]. He warned Frollo that his sin of spilling innocent blood must be atoned for and has Frollo care for the child as his own. Frollo reluctantly agrees to do so, with the stipulation that the child - whom he names Quasimodo ([[MeaningfulName meaning "half-formed"]]) -- reside in the bell tower of the cathedral, never to be seen by public eyes.

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In medieval France, the corrupt and sinister Judge Claude Frollo once uncovered several Gypsies trying to enter Paris with an unidentified and bundled object. One of them attempted to escape with it and Frollo ran her down, indirectly causing her death. It is then that Frollo realized that the woman was carrying a baby, and, disgusted by the infant's deformity, nearly drowned the child in a well when he is stopped by the [[GoodShepherd Archdeacon]]. He warned Frollo that his sin of spilling innocent blood must be atoned for and has Frollo Frdaollo care for the child as his own. Frollo reluctantly agrees to do so, with the stipulation that the child - whom he names Quasimodo ([[MeaningfulName meaning "half-formed"]]) -- reside in the bell tower of the cathedral, never to be seen by public eyes.


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** The new Berlin cast recording is darker than the New Jersey one, being recorded live onstage and therefore retaining all of the elements left out of the American album. For example, in the Finale Ultimo, the sound of Frollo [[spoiler: hitting the ground]] can be heard, as well as Quasimodo's anguished line of "There lies... all that I have ever loved."
2nd Feb '18 1:08:38 PM CaspianX
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** Victor, Hugo, and Laverne, while repeatedly referred to as Gargoyles, are all actually technically Grotesques (a Gargoyle generally has a spout to convey water, while these three are apparently just decorational when in stone form. This is entirely separate from the trope, however.

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** Victor, Hugo, and Laverne, while repeatedly referred to as Gargoyles, are all actually technically Grotesques (a Gargoyle generally has a spout to convey water, while these three are apparently just decorational when in stone form. Grotesques are the correct name for the fantastical stone figures that often adorn buildings). This is entirely separate from the trope, however.
2nd Feb '18 1:02:00 PM CaspianX
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** Victor, Hugo, and Laverne, while repeatedly referred to as Gargoyles, are all actually technically Grotesques (a Gargoyle generally has a spout to convey water, while these three are apparently just decorational when in stone form. This is entirely separate from the trope, however.
22nd Jan '18 6:05:43 AM k410ren
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In 1999, the film was translated into German for a stage musical, ''Der Glöckner von Notre Dame''. A ''second'' English-language stage adaptation of the film, with a book by Peter Parnell rather than the one James Lapine wrote for the German production, debuted at San Diego's La Jolla Playhouse in 2014. This was restaged at New Jersey's Paper Mill Playhouse the following year, though plans for a Broadway transfer were cancelled (although a cast recording has been made.) In 2017 Peter Parnell's version was translated into German and brought to Berlin where it runs until november before going on tour. Both musicals backtracked from Disney's take towards the original novel, and are thus DarkerAndEdgier to varying extents.

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In 1999, the film was translated into German for a stage musical, ''Der Glöckner von Notre Dame''. A ''second'' English-language stage adaptation of the film, with a book by Peter Parnell rather than the one James Lapine wrote for the German production, debuted at San Diego's La Jolla Playhouse in 2014. This was restaged at New Jersey's Paper Mill Playhouse the following year, though plans for a Broadway transfer were cancelled (although a cast recording has been made.) In 2017 Peter Parnell's version was translated into German and brought to Berlin where it runs until november November before going on tour. Both musicals backtracked from Disney's take towards the original novel, and are thus DarkerAndEdgier to varying extents.


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* CreatorCameo: Gary Trousdale, the director, voices the prisoner who is freed from one prison before landing in another.
18th Jan '18 6:49:42 AM TheGreatConversation
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-->'''Gargoyles:''' [[UnusualEuphemism You ring the bell(e)!\\

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-->'''Gargoyles:''' --->'''Gargoyles:''' [[UnusualEuphemism You ring the bell(e)!\\
18th Jan '18 6:48:46 AM TheGreatConversation
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* FriendToAllChildren: The story opens with Clopin entertaining some children with the story of Quasimodo's backstory, and at the end of the film he is seen carrying a little girl as he reprises the opening song with the crowd carrying Quasimodo.



* FriendToAllChildren: The story opens with Clopin entertaining some children with the story of Quasimodo's backstory, and at the end of the film he is seen carrying a little girl as he reprises the opening song with the crowd carrying Quasimodo.



* There are plenty of sexual puns and {{double entendre}}s that fly over kids' heads. See especially Esmeralda and Phoebus's battle dialogue and the gargoyles' "A Guy Like You."

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* ** There are plenty of sexual puns and {{double entendre}}s that fly over kids' heads. See especially Esmeralda and Phoebus's battle dialogue and the gargoyles' "A Guy Like You."
18th Jan '18 6:44:39 AM TheGreatConversation
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** The mention of 'strumpets' in "Topsy Turvy", which they probably only got away with because it's [[GetTheeToANunnery such an archaic word]].

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** The mention of 'strumpets' in "Topsy Turvy", which they probably only got away with because it's [[GetTheeToANunnery such an archaic word]]. Frollo calling the common crowd "licentious" (a somewhat archaic term for "sexually promiscuous") was probably allowed for the sane reason.



** The brief scene of a troupe of women doing the Can-can and their knickers are in full view. Clopin is at the end of the line of can-can dancers, also in a skirt.
** In "Hellfire", Frollo calls the common crowd "licentious", a somewhat archaic term for "sexually promiscuous".

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** The brief scene of a troupe of women doing the Can-can and with their knickers are in full view. Clopin is at the end of the line of can-can dancers, also in a skirt.
** In "Hellfire", Frollo calls * There are plenty of sexual puns and {{double entendre}}s that fly over kids' heads. See especially Esmeralda and Phoebus's battle dialogue and the common crowd "licentious", a somewhat archaic term for "sexually promiscuous".gargoyles' "A Guy Like You."
-->'''Gargoyles:''' [[UnusualEuphemism You ring the bell(e)!\\
You're the bell-ringer]]!\\
When she wants ''[[UnusualEuphemism oo-la-la]]''\\
Then she wants ''you'' la-la!



* GoshDangItToHeck: Averted. It's the Disney/{{s|leepingBeauty}}econd Disney film that refers to "hell"/"Hell" and the first that outright mentions "Damnation".... Twice in the same scene.

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* GoshDangItToHeck: Averted. It's the Disney/{{s|leepingBeauty}}econd Disney film that refers to "hell"/"Hell" and the first that outright mentions "Damnation"...."Damnation" . . . Twice in the same scene.
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