History Disney / TheBlackCauldron

11th Feb '18 4:06:09 PM DuskNoble
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* MeaningfulName: An unintentional exampled, if such a thing exists: Gurgi's voice sounds like a gurgle one might make with their throat.

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* MeaningfulName: An unintentional exampled, example, if such a thing exists: Gurgi's voice sounds like a gurgle one might make with their throat.



* SealedGoodInACan: It's implied that Taran's enchanted sword houses the soul of the good king (revealed in a deleted scene to be Gwydion) who built the castle that the Horned King eventually took over [[note]]In the books this is Dyrnwyn, which becomes the sword of Prince Gwydion, but the sword is never named in the movie[[/note]], making it the GoodCounterpart to the Cauldron. Its indestructible, can cut through anything that's not another SoulJar, and can ''never'' be welded by the evil.

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* SealedGoodInACan: It's implied that Taran's enchanted sword houses the soul of the good king (revealed in a deleted scene to be Gwydion) who built the castle that the Horned King eventually took over [[note]]In the books this is Dyrnwyn, which becomes the sword of Prince Gwydion, but the sword is never named in the movie[[/note]], making it the GoodCounterpart to the Cauldron. Its It's indestructible, can cut through anything that's not another SoulJar, and can ''never'' be welded wielded by the evil.



* TomboyPrincess: Eilonwy, although heavily watered down from her original characterization, which fit this more.

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* TomboyPrincess: Eilonwy, although heavily watered down from her original characterization, which fit fits this more.



** Also Creeper, with "this isn' my fault!"

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** Also Creeper, with "this isn' isn't my fault!"
11th Feb '18 3:58:54 PM DuskNoble
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** He's a meta-example as well; in the films following Creator/{{Walt|Disney}}'s death, the majority of the BigBad villains became less and less threatening with each release. The Horned King's role in the film is arguably what got villains in subsequent films to became DarkerAndEdgier as a result.

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** He's a meta-example as well; in the films following Creator/{{Walt|Disney}}'s death, the majority of the BigBad villains became less and less threatening with each release. The Horned King's role in the film is arguably what got villains in subsequent films to became become DarkerAndEdgier as a result.
11th Feb '18 3:53:11 PM DuskNoble
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* DeusExMachina: While the cauldron is the first artifact and/or character introduced, the way it qualifies is how it takes out [[spoiler:The Horned King]]. While it was explained that a living person entering the cauldron of his or her own free will would seal its powers, it is not explained why it kills the guy and destroys the castle. It's implied that it's just that evil, but that's a rather [[HandWave flimsy explanation]]. Its pretty obvious this was done in desperation to avoid a KudzuPlot and tie up all loose ends quickly.

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* DeusExMachina: While the cauldron is the first artifact and/or character introduced, the way it qualifies is how it takes out [[spoiler:The [[spoiler:the Horned King]]. While it was explained that a living person entering the cauldron of his or her own free will would seal its powers, it is not explained why it kills the guy and destroys the castle. It's implied that it's just that evil, but that's a rather [[HandWave flimsy explanation]]. Its It's pretty obvious this was done in desperation to avoid a KudzuPlot and tie up all loose ends quickly.
11th Feb '18 3:49:43 PM DuskNoble
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* AnthropicPrinciple: It would have been a far shorter movie, if Taran had taken the powerful [[SealedGoodInACan Sword of the good king]], up the stairs, on a [[StoryBreakerPower direct assault on the Horned King]], rather than only striking fear into his mooks, [[AttackAttackRetreatRetreat and then running away]].

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* AnthropicPrinciple: It would have been a far shorter movie, movie if Taran had taken the powerful [[SealedGoodInACan Sword sword of the good king]], king]] up the stairs, stairs on a [[StoryBreakerPower direct assault on the Horned King]], rather than only striking fear into his mooks, mooks [[AttackAttackRetreatRetreat and then running away]].
11th Feb '18 3:47:25 PM DuskNoble
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Based on a series of novels, ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfPrydain'' by Creator/LloydAlexander, ''The Black Cauldron'' is easily one of Disney's darkest animated features. It was also the studio's biggest BoxOfficeBomb, and remains something of an OldShame that the studio has largely ignored for decades.

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Based on a series of novels, ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfPrydain'' by Creator/LloydAlexander, ''The Black Cauldron'' is easily one of Disney's darkest animated features. It was also the studio's biggest BoxOfficeBomb, BoxOfficeBomb and remains something of an OldShame that the studio has largely ignored for decades.



* AllDeathsFinal: [[spoiler:Subverted; the witches say they cannot bring back Gurgi but then Fflewddur manages to goad them into doing so anyway. It's implied this was a very difficult thing for them to do.]]

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* AllDeathsFinal: [[spoiler:Subverted; the The witches say they cannot bring back Gurgi but then Fflewddur manages to goad them into doing so anyway. It's implied this was a very difficult thing for them to do.]]



** Orddu is the Mother (leads the witches and is the most knowledgable about magic)

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** Orddu is the Mother (leads the witches and is the most knowledgable knowledgeable about magic)



* JumpScare: When Taran first enters the Horned King's castle, he quietly maneuvers past a sleeping guardsman, before hiding behind a stone wall. When he peaks his head out to check if his route is safe, [[spoiler:the guardsman's dog suddenly leaps out, barking loudly and violently right in Taran's face.]] The fact that this scene plays without any discernible music in the background makes it all the more effective.

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* JumpScare: When Taran first enters the Horned King's castle, he quietly maneuvers past a sleeping guardsman, before hiding behind a stone wall. When he peaks peeks his head out to check if his route is safe, [[spoiler:the guardsman's dog suddenly leaps out, barking loudly and violently right in Taran's face.]] The fact that this scene plays without any discernible music in the background makes it all the more effective.



* MeaningfulName: An unintentional exampled, if such a thing exists: Gurgie's voice sounds like a gurgle one might make with their throat.

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* MeaningfulName: An unintentional exampled, if such a thing exists: Gurgie's Gurgi's voice sounds like a gurgle one might make with their throat.
3rd Feb '18 4:10:42 PM OlmoJV
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* TheGuardsMustBeCrazy

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* TheGuardsMustBeCrazyTheGuardsMustBeCrazy: The first guard introduced is napping while Taran first sneaks in the castle. An {{angry guard dog}} viciously barks at the boy, forcing him against the wall and waking the guard up. The drowsy guard fails to notice Taran, assumes the dog to be barking at nothing and drags it with him for a round.
30th Jan '18 6:19:35 PM StardustSoldier
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* DarkerAndEdgier: In comparison to other Disney movies before it. This was the first Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon movie to earn a PG rating, and fittingly so, given its high concentration of NightmareFuel.
** [[http://moviepilot.com/p/why-was-disneys-the-black-cauldron-almost-rated-r/3649668 It was very nearly rated R]], in fact, and was [[{{Bowdlerize}} heavily]] [[WhatCouldHaveBeen edited]] to avoid this fate.

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* DarkerAndEdgier: In comparison to other Disney movies before it. This was the first Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon movie to earn a PG rating, and fittingly so, given its high concentration of NightmareFuel.
** [[http://moviepilot.com/p/why-was-disneys-the-black-cauldron-almost-rated-r/3649668
NightmareFuel. It was very nearly rated R]], R, in fact, and was [[{{Bowdlerize}} heavily]] [[WhatCouldHaveBeen edited]] to avoid this fate.
26th Nov '17 2:08:37 AM dieseldragons
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** A major misstep is committed by the Horned King and Creeper ''who leave the Cauldron unattended'', giving the protagonists an unwritten invitation to screw up all his plans.
26th Nov '17 1:50:34 AM dieseldragons
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* AnthropicPrinciple: It would have been a far shorter movie, if Taran had taken the powerful [[SealedGoodInACan Sword of the good king]], up the stairs, on a direct assault on the Horned King, rather than only striking fear into his mooks, [[AttackAttackRetreatRetreat and then running away]].

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* AnthropicPrinciple: It would have been a far shorter movie, if Taran had taken the powerful [[SealedGoodInACan Sword of the good king]], up the stairs, on a [[StoryBreakerPower direct assault on the Horned King, King]], rather than only striking fear into his mooks, [[AttackAttackRetreatRetreat and then running away]].
26th Nov '17 1:44:40 AM dieseldragons
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* AnthropicPrinciple: It would have been a far shorter movie, if Taran had taken the powerful [[SealedGoodInACan Sword of the good king]], up the stairs, on a direct assault on the Horned King, rather than only striking fear into his mooks, [[AttackAttackRetreatRetreat and then running away]].



* SealedEvilInACan: Arawn is speculated to be the evil force within the Cauldron. Though the ancients didn't do a very good job of imprisoning him away permanently, [[LeakingCanOfEvil and as such, its powers can be unleashed]]. And even worse is that it can be used to [[SealedArmyInACan raise an army of the living dead]].
* SealedGoodInACan: It's implied that Taran's enchanted sword houses the soul of the good king (revealed in a deleted scene to be Gwydion) who built the castle that the Horned King eventually took over [[note]]In the books this is Dyrnwyn, which becomes the sword of Prince Gwydion, but the sword is never named in the movie[[/note]], making it the GoodCounterpart to the Cauldron.

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* SealedEvilInACan: Arawn is speculated to be the evil force within the Cauldron. Though the ancients (or gods) didn't do a very good job of imprisoning him away permanently, [[LeakingCanOfEvil and as such, its powers can be unleashed]]. And even worse is that it can be used to [[SealedArmyInACan raise an army of the living dead]].
* SealedGoodInACan: It's implied that Taran's enchanted sword houses the soul of the good king (revealed in a deleted scene to be Gwydion) who built the castle that the Horned King eventually took over [[note]]In the books this is Dyrnwyn, which becomes the sword of Prince Gwydion, but the sword is never named in the movie[[/note]], making it the GoodCounterpart to the Cauldron. Its indestructible, can cut through anything that's not another SoulJar, and can ''never'' be welded by the evil.
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