History Disney / OliverAndCompany

13th Aug '16 1:31:30 PM MarkLungo
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* FamilyUnfriendlyDeath: Sykes and his two Doberman cronies, especially the ending [[spoiler:where the dogs are knocked off the speeding car onto the subway tracks and electrocuted to death (you actually see Roscoe die ''on-screen''), followed by Sykes plowing head-first into the train, killing him in a fiery blaze]]. After this, and Ursula's impalement in ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'', "[[DisneyVillainDeath The villain falls to his/her doom]]" (frequently as the result of their own treachery) was used for many years afterwards.

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* FamilyUnfriendlyDeath: Sykes and his two Doberman cronies, especially the ending [[spoiler:where the dogs are knocked off the speeding car onto the subway tracks and electrocuted to death (you actually see Roscoe die ''on-screen''), followed by Sykes plowing head-first into the train, killing him in a fiery blaze]]. After this, and Ursula's impalement in ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'', "[[DisneyVillainDeath The villain falls to his/her doom]]" (frequently as [[KarmicDeath the result of their own treachery) treachery]]) was used for many years afterwards.
13th Aug '16 1:16:14 PM ryanasaurus0077
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** [[spoiler: Oliver]], following the climax.
** Also, [[spoiler: Dodger after a gruesome fight with the dobermans.]]

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** [[spoiler: Oliver]], following the climax.
** Also,
climax, and also [[spoiler: Dodger after a gruesome fight with the dobermans.]]dobermans]].



-->'''Dodger:''' Roscoe, Roscoe, is this us losing our sense of humor?\\

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-->'''Dodger:''' --->'''Dodger:''' Roscoe, Roscoe, is this us losing our sense of humor?\\



* {{Expy}}:
** Jenny was originally going to be Penny from ''Disney/TheRescuers'' and it shows. (Notice how they creatively changed one letter in her name).

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* {{Expy}}:
{{Expy}}: This film's characters draw rather noticeably from earlier entries in the Canon:
** Jenny was originally going to be Penny from ''Disney/TheRescuers'' and it shows. (Notice shows[[note]]Notice how they creatively changed one letter in her name).name[[/note]].



** When Georgette finds Dodger in her room she thinks [[ArentYouGoingToRavishMe he's there to rape her]].
** Then later, Georgette asks to have a talk with Tito... alone in her room. [[SubvertedTrope ...about giving him a bath and new wardrobe]]. [[DoubleSubversion Though Tito was obviously expecting something else]].

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** Practically a small-scale RunningGag with Georgette:
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When Georgette finds Dodger in her room she thinks [[ArentYouGoingToRavishMe he's there to rape her]].
** Then later, *** Later, Georgette asks to have a talk with Tito... alone in her room. [[SubvertedTrope ...about giving him a bath and new wardrobe]]. [[DoubleSubversion Though Tito was obviously expecting something else]].
12th Aug '16 3:16:13 PM ryanasaurus0077
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** Gender reversed with Tito for Georgette. At first, anyway.
** Fagin (Creator/DomDeLuise) has one or two moments that are reminiscent of [[WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH Jeremy]]

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** Gender reversed with Tito for Georgette. At Georgette... at first, anyway.
** Fagin (Creator/DomDeLuise) has one or two moments that are reminiscent of [[WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH Jeremy]]Jeremy]].



* ArtisticLicenseAnimalCare: As the picture on the Trope Page shows, NEVER feed ice cream to a cat. Kind of justified. Plenty of children Jenny's age feed their pets human luxuries, unaware of the risks.

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* ArtisticLicenseAnimalCare: As the picture on the Trope Page shows, NEVER feed ice cream to a cat. Kind of justified. Plenty But then, plenty of children Jenny's age feed their pets human luxuries, unaware of the risks.



* ConspicuousCG:
** Watch the animation of Georgette descending stairs during her "I Am" song, "Perfect Isn't Easy", for some early computer graphics.
** The ENTIRE MOVIE is loaded with conspicuous CG animation; New York City's traffic, Sykes's car, Fagin's cart, etc. They're all CGI. The final chase sequence makes really heavy use of this as well. This was the first Disney animated feature to use CGI in such a heavy manner (instead of for certain sequences like the previous two films did.)

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* ConspicuousCG:
** Watch the animation of Georgette descending stairs during her "I Am" song, "Perfect Isn't Easy", for some early computer graphics.
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ConspicuousCG: The ENTIRE MOVIE is loaded with conspicuous CG animation; New York City's traffic, Sykes's car, Fagin's cart, Georgette's stairs, etc. They're all CGI. The final chase sequence makes really heavy use of this as well. This was the first Disney animated feature to use CGI in such a heavy manner (instead of for certain sequences like the previous two films did.)
20th Jul '16 8:09:22 PM Mdumas43073
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[[caption-width-right:350:[[SpoilerTitle He gets his name about two-thirds through]].]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:[[SpoilerTitle [[caption-width-right:300:[[SpoilerTitle He gets his name about two-thirds through]].]]
13th Jul '16 8:07:07 AM Pichu-kun
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!!This film contains examples of:

* AbhorrentAdmirer: Gender reversed with Tito for Georgette. At first, anyway.

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!!This film !!''Oliver & Company'' contains examples of:

* AbhorrentAdmirer: AbhorrentAdmirer:
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Gender reversed with Tito for Georgette. At first, anyway.



* ArtisticLicenseAnimalCare: As the picture on the Trope Page shows, NEVER feed ice cream to a cat.
** Kind of Justified. Plenty of children Jenny's age feed their pets human luxuries, unaware of the risks.

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* ArtisticLicenseAnimalCare: As the picture on the Trope Page shows, NEVER feed ice cream to a cat.
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cat. Kind of Justified.justified. Plenty of children Jenny's age feed their pets human luxuries, unaware of the risks.



* TheCameo: [[Disney/LadyAndTheTramp Jock, Trusty, Peg]] and [[Disney/OneHundredAndOneDalmatians Pongo]] appear during "Why Should I Worry?"

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* TheCameo: TheCameo:
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[[Disney/LadyAndTheTramp Jock, Trusty, Peg]] and [[Disney/OneHundredAndOneDalmatians Pongo]] appear during "Why Should I Worry?"



* ConspicuousCG: Watch the animation of Georgette descending stairs during her "I Am" song, "Perfect Isn't Easy", for some early computer graphics.

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* ConspicuousCG: ConspicuousCG:
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Watch the animation of Georgette descending stairs during her "I Am" song, "Perfect Isn't Easy", for some early computer graphics.



* DarkerAndEdgier: Well, for 1980s animation, anyway. One critic noted that ''Oliver and Company'' was "the grimiest Disney release ever." [[note]]Presumably, they meant at the time, because if the darkness of this movie did not get overshadowed by ''Disney/TheLionKing'', it probably got overshadowed by ''Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame'' later on, obviously ignoring ''Disney/TheBlackCauldron''[[/note]] (All things considered, it ''is'' noteworthy that, while New York City had been portrayed in animated films many times prior to 1988, it had always been depicted as either glamorous or only "nostalgically" gritty, as in ''WesternAnimation/AnAmericanTail''.)
** Considering the urban setting, only Dodger and Oliver being the sympathetic animals drawn to be remotely "cute", and Fagin's remarkable lack of attractiveness for a sympathetic human character, one wonders which version - this or the live action film - would be more frightening for children.

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* DarkerAndEdgier: Well, for 1980s animation, anyway. One critic noted that ''Oliver and Company'' was "the grimiest Disney release ever." [[note]]Presumably, they meant at the time, because if the darkness of this movie did not get overshadowed by ''Disney/TheLionKing'', it probably got overshadowed by ''Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame'' later on, obviously ignoring ''Disney/TheBlackCauldron''[[/note]] (All things considered, it ''is'' noteworthy that, while New York City had been portrayed in animated films many times prior to 1988, it had always been depicted as either glamorous or only "nostalgically" gritty, as in ''WesternAnimation/AnAmericanTail''.)
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) Considering the urban setting, only Dodger and Oliver being the sympathetic animals drawn to be remotely "cute", and Fagin's remarkable lack of attractiveness for a sympathetic human character, one wonders which version - this or the live action film - would be more frightening for children.



* DisneyDeath: [[spoiler: Oliver]], following the climax.

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* DisneyDeath: DisneyDeath:
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[[spoiler: Oliver]], following the climax.



** A main character named Oliver, and a villain named Mr. Sykes. Put those names together, [[Music/BringMeTheHorizon doesn't it sound a little familiar nowadays?]]
* DogStereotype: Several, most obviously Francis the bulldog who is pompous and British.

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** A main character named Oliver, and a villain named Mr. Sykes. Put those names together, [[Music/BringMeTheHorizon doesn't it sound a little familiar nowadays?]]
* DogStereotype: Several, most obviously Francis the bulldog English Bulldog who is pompous and British.



* EvilHasABadSenseOfHumor: The "macabre sense of humor" variety is hinted at with Roscoe.

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* EvilHasABadSenseOfHumor: EvilHasABadSenseOfHumor:
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The "macabre sense of humor" variety is hinted at with Roscoe.



* {{Expy}}: Jenny was originally going to be Penny from ''Disney/TheRescuers'' and it shows. (Notice how they creatively changed one letter in her name).
** Many of the dog characters in this film seem loosely reminiscent of some of those featured in ''Disney/LadyAndTheTramp''. The similarities between Tramp and Dodger, for starters.

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* {{Expy}}: {{Expy}}:
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Jenny was originally going to be Penny from ''Disney/TheRescuers'' and it shows. (Notice how they creatively changed one letter in her name).
** Many of the dog characters in this film seem loosely reminiscent of some of those featured in ''Disney/LadyAndTheTramp''. The similarities between Tramp and Dodger, for starters. Whether intentional not, when Lady is stuck in the pound we see a Chihuahua with fluff on his head like Tito and an English Bulldog that Francis resembles.



* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: "Gang war! Gang war!"

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* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: GettingCrapPastTheRadar:
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"Gang war! Gang war!"



** Then later, Georgette asks to have a talk with Tito... alone in her room.
*** [[SubvertedTrope ...about giving him a bath and new wardrobe]]. [[DoubleSubversion Though Tito was obviously expecting something else]].

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** Then later, Georgette asks to have a talk with Tito... alone in her room.
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room. [[SubvertedTrope ...about giving him a bath and new wardrobe]]. [[DoubleSubversion Though Tito was obviously expecting something else]].



* GoryDiscretionShot: We barely see [[spoiler: Sykes getting splattered by the train]], and we only hear [=DeSoto=]--one of Sykes' dobermans--getting killed.

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* GoryDiscretionShot: GoryDiscretionShot:
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We barely see [[spoiler: Sykes getting splattered by the train]], and we only hear [=DeSoto=]--one of Sykes' dobermans--getting killed.



* MatchCut: A shot of the Manhattan skyline at night is held for a transition to the next morning.

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* MatchCut: MatchCut:
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A shot of the Manhattan skyline at night is held for a transition to the next morning.



* ProductPlacement: The many, many billboards and logos seen in backgrounds are real brands, for authenticity's sake. The junk Jenny gets from the dogs as birthday presents even includes a GMC hubcap.

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* ProductPlacement: ProductPlacement:
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The many, many billboards and logos seen in backgrounds are real brands, for authenticity's sake. The junk Jenny gets from the dogs as birthday presents even includes a GMC hubcap.



* SceneryPorn: New York City in very accurate detail.

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* SceneryPorn: SceneryPorn:
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New York City in very accurate detail.



* ShoutOut: The birds that dress Georgette during "Perfect Isn't Easy" do the same thing the birds did for ''Disney/{{Cinderella}}'' during "A Dream is a Wish Your Heart Makes" (at least the ones with the animal print scarf).

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* ShoutOut: ShoutOut:
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The birds that dress Georgette during "Perfect Isn't Easy" do the same thing the birds did for ''Disney/{{Cinderella}}'' during "A Dream is a Wish Your Heart Makes" (at least the ones with the animal print scarf).



* TinyGuyHugeGirl: Georgette, a poodle, and Tito, a chihuahua.

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* TinyGuyHugeGirl: TinyGuyHugeGirl:
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Georgette, a poodle, and Tito, a chihuahua.



* VillainSong: Despite Dodger not being a villain, ''Why Should I Worry'', coming immediately after he takes advantage of Oliver, qualifies.

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* VillainSong: VillainSong:
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Despite Dodger not being a villain, ''Why Should I Worry'', coming immediately after he takes advantage of Oliver, qualifies.
26th Jun '16 9:13:57 AM Handwaver202
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Added DiffLines:

**During the song "Why Should I Worry", Two female chorus dogs briefly give Dodger a sexy look while shaking their butts in a "suggestive" manner.
10th Jun '16 11:51:36 AM Cakeman
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* BoundAndGagged: Well, just bound: Sykes makes sure Jenny can't escape by tying her wrists behind a chair.

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* BoundAndGagged: Well, just bound: Sykes makes sure Jenny can't escape by tying her wrists behind a chair.chair and having his dogs surround her.
3rd Jun '16 4:00:15 PM BleuStar365
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The film is somewhat notable for some early use of CGI (mostly to create New York's traffic), and for being the last film of Disney's pre-Renaissance era - it came out just one year before ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid''. It staffed many new artists who would rise to popularity with Disney's future releases. It's also important to note that the moderate success of this film brought back Disney's will to animate musicals, so you should thank it for songs like "[[Disney/TheLittleMermaid Under The Sea]]", "[[Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast Beauty And The Beast]]", "[[Disney/{{Aladdin}} A Whole New World]]", "[[Disney/TheLionKing Can You Feel the Love Tonight]]", [[Disney/{{Pocahontas}} and so on]], [[Disney/{{Tarzan}} and so forth]], [[WesternAnimation/{{Frozen}} etc.]], ''[[OverlyLongGag ad nauseum]]''.

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The film is somewhat notable for some early use of CGI (mostly to create New York's traffic), and for being the last film of Disney's pre-Renaissance era - it came out just one year before ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid''. It staffed many new artists who would rise to popularity with Disney's future releases. It's also important to note that the moderate success of this film brought back Disney's will to animate musicals, so you should thank it for songs like "[[Disney/TheLittleMermaid Under The Sea]]", "[[Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast Beauty And The Beast]]", "[[Disney/{{Aladdin}} A Whole New World]]", "[[Disney/TheLionKing Can You Feel the Love Tonight]]", [[Disney/{{Pocahontas}} and so on]], [[Disney/{{Tarzan}} and so forth]], [[WesternAnimation/{{Frozen}} [[Disney/{{Frozen}} etc.]], ''[[OverlyLongGag ad nauseum]]''.
3rd Jun '16 3:59:50 PM BleuStar365
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The film is somewhat notable for some early use of CGI (mostly to create New York's traffic), and for being the last film of Disney's pre-Renaissance era - it came out just one year before ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid''. It staffed many new artists who would rise to popularity with Disney's future releases. It's also important to note that the moderate success of this film brought back Disney's will to animate musicals, so you should thank it for songs like "[[Disney/TheLittleMermaid Under The Sea]]", "[[Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast Beauty And The Beast]]", "[[Disney/{{Aladdin}} A Whole New World]]", "[[Disney/TheLionKing Can You Feel the Love Tonight]]", [[Disney/{{Pocahontas}} and so on]], [[Disney/{{Tarzan}} and so forth]], [[WesternAnimation/{Frozen} etc.]], ''[[OverlyLongGag ad nauseum]]''.

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The film is somewhat notable for some early use of CGI (mostly to create New York's traffic), and for being the last film of Disney's pre-Renaissance era - it came out just one year before ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid''. It staffed many new artists who would rise to popularity with Disney's future releases. It's also important to note that the moderate success of this film brought back Disney's will to animate musicals, so you should thank it for songs like "[[Disney/TheLittleMermaid Under The Sea]]", "[[Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast Beauty And The Beast]]", "[[Disney/{{Aladdin}} A Whole New World]]", "[[Disney/TheLionKing Can You Feel the Love Tonight]]", [[Disney/{{Pocahontas}} and so on]], [[Disney/{{Tarzan}} and so forth]], [[WesternAnimation/{Frozen} [[WesternAnimation/{{Frozen}} etc.]], ''[[OverlyLongGag ad nauseum]]''.
3rd Jun '16 3:59:32 PM BleuStar365
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The film is somewhat notable for some early use of CGI (mostly to create New York's traffic), and for being the last film of Disney's pre-Renaissance era - it came out just one year before ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid''. It staffed many new artists who would rise to popularity with Disney's future releases. It's also important to note that the moderate success of this film brought back Disney's will to animate musicals, so you should thank it for songs like "[[Disney/TheLittleMermaid Under The Sea]]", "[[Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast Beauty And The Beast]]", "[[Disney/{{Aladdin}} A Whole New World]]", "[[Disney/TheLionKing Can You Feel the Love Tonight]]", [[Disney/{{Pocahontas}} and so on]], [[Disney/{{Tarzan}} and so forth]], [[WesternAnimation/Frozen etc.]], ''[[OverlyLongGag ad nauseum]]''.

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The film is somewhat notable for some early use of CGI (mostly to create New York's traffic), and for being the last film of Disney's pre-Renaissance era - it came out just one year before ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid''. It staffed many new artists who would rise to popularity with Disney's future releases. It's also important to note that the moderate success of this film brought back Disney's will to animate musicals, so you should thank it for songs like "[[Disney/TheLittleMermaid Under The Sea]]", "[[Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast Beauty And The Beast]]", "[[Disney/{{Aladdin}} A Whole New World]]", "[[Disney/TheLionKing Can You Feel the Love Tonight]]", [[Disney/{{Pocahontas}} and so on]], [[Disney/{{Tarzan}} and so forth]], [[WesternAnimation/Frozen [[WesternAnimation/{Frozen} etc.]], ''[[OverlyLongGag ad nauseum]]''.
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