History Disney / Hercules

8th Jul '17 11:03:22 PM ChaoticNovelist
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* BreakTheCutie[=/=]BrokenBird: Megara. She pledged service to Hades to save an old boyfriend's life - only to have said boyfriend run after another girl shortly afterwards. Plus, she's implied to [[RapeAsBackstory have had some run-ins]] with boys who don't understand the word "no". ''OUCH''.

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* BreakTheCutie[=/=]BrokenBird: BreakTheCutie: Megara. She pledged service to Hades to save an old boyfriend's life - only to have said boyfriend run after another girl shortly afterwards. Plus, she's implied to [[RapeAsBackstory have had some run-ins]] with boys who don't understand the word "no". ''OUCH''.



* ConspicuousCG: The Hydra still looks pretty CG despite advanced cell shading simulation techniques being applied.

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The Hydra still looks pretty CG despite advanced cell shading simulation techniques being applied.



* GodOfEvil: Hades is portrayed as one, contrary to Greek Mythology and more in line with a Christian line of thought. See SatanicArchetype.

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* GodOfEvil: Hades is portrayed as one, an EvilOverlord that schemes and betrays as naturally as breathes as part of his god of death thing. This is contrary to Greek Mythology and more in line with a Christian line of thought. See SatanicArchetype.



* OffhandBackhand: Done by Herc to Hades near the end.

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* OffhandBackhand: Done by Herc to Hades near the end.end [[spoiler: and because his divinity was restored, he literally punches Hades' face in.]]



* ProtagonistCenteredMorality: A minor instance. Hades makes several deals with Megara and Hercules and keeps to his word in all of them; they do not. The instant instance of this is particularly blatant, where Hades agrees to set Meg free from the underworld if Hercules takes her place, but then he leaves with Meg and uppercuts Hades into the well of souls for good measure.
8th Jul '17 6:34:51 PM NightShade96
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* AdaptationalNiceGuy: By modern standards, the Hercules of Greek Myth [[AntiHero wasn't exactly a paragon of heroic virtue]]. He killed more than one innocent person simply for being too close when his temper got the better of him (although he was always remorseful when this happened), and [[HotBlooded he would go stage a HUGE war for a mere verbal insult one day]], although he did go to great lengths to help his friends and his deeds did the world a lot of good. The Hercules in this movie is a wide eyed boy scout who doesn't have many, if any, vices. The worst thing he does is lash out at Phil for trying to warn him about Meg being in league with Hades, but he immediately comes to regret that.

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* AdaptationalNiceGuy: AdaptationalNiceGuy:
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By modern standards, the Hercules of Greek Myth [[AntiHero wasn't exactly a paragon of heroic virtue]]. He killed more than one innocent person simply for being too close when his temper got the better of him (although he was always remorseful when this happened), and [[HotBlooded he would go stage a HUGE war for a mere verbal insult one day]], although he did go to great lengths to help his friends and his deeds did the world a lot of good. The Hercules in this movie is a wide eyed boy scout who doesn't have many, if any, vices. The worst thing he does is lash out at Phil for trying to warn him about Meg being in league with Hades, but he immediately comes to regret that.that.
** Anyone who knows their Greek mythology knows that Zeus is [[JerkassGods a self-righteous, womanizing jerk]] and [[DoubleStandardRapeDivineOnMortal rapist]]. Here, he's pretty much a cross between GrandpaGod and BumblingDad who certainly loves Hercules and stays loyal to Hera, making his status as a TopGod of Mt. Olympus and BigGood of the series a lot more plausible.
30th Jun '17 7:51:31 PM Josef5678
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*** You could put it down to laziness and Hades not doing his job properly.



*** They never shook on the deal which is implied to be needed for a deal to be binding with Hades based on the previous deal he and Herc made. Therefore the deal wasn't binding and there was nothing for Herc to give back as a result. Also Hades notes after Herc jumps in that he'd be dead before he could reach her due to the Fates intending to cut his thread meaning he wasn't planning to keep the deal anyway so it was fair game for Herc to not keep his word after. Also he was a god at that point so unless had more of the mortality potion, Herc couldn't remove his godhood to keep his end of the deal even if he wanted to.



*** He wasn't excepting them to attack and was caught-off guard. As for the lightning bolts, he didn't get the best shots off with them initially as seen with his first shot against the Rock Titan and the other shot we see against the Rock Titan might have had the effect dampened by the cloud it went through before hitting and the Rock Titan seemed to momentarily slow down from it and may have powered through it to get to the gate and Zeus was clearly feeling the pressure. Also how do we know he defeated them himself the first time? There's no proof that the Muses' narration during "Gospel Truth" is entirely accurate.
30th Jun '17 5:30:07 PM YenSid13
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*** He wasn't excepting them to attack and was caught-off guard. As for the lightning bolts, he didn't get the best shots off with initially and was clearly feeling the pressure. Also how do we know he defeated them himself the first time? There's no proof that the Muses' narration during "Gospel Truth" is entirely accurate.

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*** He wasn't excepting them to attack and was caught-off guard. As for the lightning bolts, he didn't get the best shots off with them initially as seen with his first shot against the Rock Titan and the other shot we see against the Rock Titan might have had the effect dampened by the cloud it went through before hitting and the Rock Titan seemed to momentarily slow down from it and may have powered through it to get to the gate and Zeus was clearly feeling the pressure. Also how do we know he defeated them himself the first time? There's no proof that the Muses' narration during "Gospel Truth" is entirely accurate.
30th Jun '17 5:25:36 PM YenSid13
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*** You could put it down to laziness and Hades not doing his job properly.



** If Zeus imprisoned the Titans aeons ago by himself, why did he get his butt handed to him so readily the second time even with an entire mountain of gods helping him? Furthermore, after Herc breaks him out, he throws thunderbolts (which had been shown to be essentially useless against the Titans as they were climbing Mt Olympus) which are suddenly capable of ripping the Titans apart. The Titans even run away in terror upon seeing his release.

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*** They never shook on the deal which is implied to be needed for a deal to be binding with Hades based on the previous deal he and Herc made. Therefore the deal wasn't binding and there was nothing for Herc to give back as a result. Also Hades notes after Herc jumps in that he'd be dead before he could reach her due to the Fates intending to cut his thread meaning he wasn't planning to keep the deal anyway so it was fair game for Herc to not keep his word after. Also he was a god at that point so unless had more of the mortality potion, Herc couldn't remove his godhood to keep his end of the deal even if he wanted to.
** If Zeus imprisoned the Titans aeons eons ago by himself, why did he get his butt handed to him so readily the second time even with an entire mountain of gods helping him? Furthermore, after Herc breaks him out, he throws thunderbolts (which had been shown to be essentially useless against the Titans as they were climbing Mt Olympus) which are suddenly capable of ripping the Titans apart. The Titans even run away in terror upon seeing his release.release.
*** He wasn't excepting them to attack and was caught-off guard. As for the lightning bolts, he didn't get the best shots off with initially and was clearly feeling the pressure. Also how do we know he defeated them himself the first time? There's no proof that the Muses' narration during "Gospel Truth" is entirely accurate.
24th Jun '17 1:26:24 AM NightShade96
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* AdaptationalNiceGuy: By modern standards, the Hercules of Greek Myth [[AntiHero wasn't exactly a paragon of heroic virtue]]. He killed more than one innocent person simply for being too close when his temper got the better of him (although he was always remorseful when this happened), and [[HotBlooded he would go stage a HUGE war for a mere verbal insult one day]], although he did went to great lengths to help his friends and his deeds did the world a lot of good. The Hercules in this movie is a wide eyed boy scout who doesn't have many, if any, vices. The worst thing he does is lash out at Phil for trying to warn him about Meg being in league with Hades, but he immediately comes to regret that.

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* AdaptationalNiceGuy: By modern standards, the Hercules of Greek Myth [[AntiHero wasn't exactly a paragon of heroic virtue]]. He killed more than one innocent person simply for being too close when his temper got the better of him (although he was always remorseful when this happened), and [[HotBlooded he would go stage a HUGE war for a mere verbal insult one day]], although he did went go to great lengths to help his friends and his deeds did the world a lot of good. The Hercules in this movie is a wide eyed boy scout who doesn't have many, if any, vices. The worst thing he does is lash out at Phil for trying to warn him about Meg being in league with Hades, but he immediately comes to regret that.
24th Jun '17 1:24:11 AM NightShade96
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The film is also adapted into a level called Olympus Coliseum in the ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' series… [[RecurringLocation heavily.]] It has appeared in seven out of eight games, and even in the game it didn't appear in, the world's theme music was used in another world. Hades is even the most recurring Disney Villain in the series besides Maleficent[[note]]the biggest Disney Villain of the series[[/note]] herself, probably because you can always rely on getting the big name of Creator/JamesWoods to play him.

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The film is also adapted into a level called Olympus Coliseum in the ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' series… [[RecurringLocation heavily.]] It has appeared in seven out of eight games, and even in the game it didn't appear in, the world's theme music was used in another world. Hades is even the most recurring Disney Villain in the series besides Maleficent[[note]]the biggest Disney Villain of the series[[/note]] herself, probably because you can always rely on getting the big name of Creator/JamesWoods James Woods to play him.
12th Jun '17 7:20:48 PM Josef5678
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The film is also adapted into a level called Olympus Coliseum in the ''[[Franchise/KingdomHearts Kingdom Hearts]]'' series… [[RecurringLocation he]][[ExaggeratedTrope avi]][[TropeCodifier ly.]] It has appeared in seven out of eight games, and even in the game it didn't appear in, the world's theme music was used in another world. Hades is even the most recurring Disney Villain in the series besides Maleficent[[note]]the biggest Disney Villain of the series[[/note]] herself, probably because you can always rely on getting the big name of Creator/JamesWoods to play him.

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The film is also adapted into a level called Olympus Coliseum in the ''[[Franchise/KingdomHearts Kingdom Hearts]]'' ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' series… [[RecurringLocation he]][[ExaggeratedTrope avi]][[TropeCodifier ly.heavily.]] It has appeared in seven out of eight games, and even in the game it didn't appear in, the world's theme music was used in another world. Hades is even the most recurring Disney Villain in the series besides Maleficent[[note]]the biggest Disney Villain of the series[[/note]] herself, probably because you can always rely on getting the big name of Creator/JamesWoods to play him.
11th Jun '17 9:51:02 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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The film is also adapted into a level called Olympus Coliseum in the ''[[Franchise/KingdomHearts Kingdom Hearts]]'' series… [[RecurringLocation he]][[ExaggeratedTrope avi]][[TropeCodifier ly.]] It has appeared in seven out of eight games, and even in the game it didn't appear in, the world's theme music was used in another world. Hades is even the most recurring Disney Villain in the series besides Maleficent[[note]]the biggest Disney Villain of the series[[/note]] herself, probably because you can always rely on getting the big name of James Woods to play him.

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The film is also adapted into a level called Olympus Coliseum in the ''[[Franchise/KingdomHearts Kingdom Hearts]]'' series… [[RecurringLocation he]][[ExaggeratedTrope avi]][[TropeCodifier ly.]] It has appeared in seven out of eight games, and even in the game it didn't appear in, the world's theme music was used in another world. Hades is even the most recurring Disney Villain in the series besides Maleficent[[note]]the biggest Disney Villain of the series[[/note]] herself, probably because you can always rely on getting the big name of James Woods Creator/JamesWoods to play him.
11th Jun '17 8:06:05 PM Josef5678
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* AdaptationalHeroism: Hera goes through this as well as Adaptational Maternity. In the original myth, Hera was Hercules' step-mother and main antagonist.

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* AdaptationalHeroism: Hera goes through this as well as Adaptational Maternity. In the original myth, Hera was Hercules' Hercules's step-mother and main antagonist.



* AdaptedOut: Hercule's wives after Meg and his children are completely removed from the film.

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* AdaptedOut: Hercule's Hercules's wives after Meg and his children are completely removed from the film.
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