History Discworld / Thud

19th Jun '17 7:23:27 PM PaulA
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* CreatingLifeIsUnforeseen: According to one legend, Tak (the Dwarf creator deity) made the First Man and the First Dwarf from a rock. Afterward, he noticed the rock was trying to come life by itself, leading to the creation of the First Troll.
7th May '17 2:45:19 PM Discar
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* GoodIsNotNice: The Summoning Dark is not actually evil; it is in fact a spirit of ''righteous'' vengeance, summoned to kill those who broke one of the most sacred dwarf laws (and are continuing to break it). No one ever expresses the idea that the Dark's victims don't deserve to die. But in the modern world, the rule of law and justice is more important than killing the guilty, so Vimes knows he needs to stop it.
3rd Feb '17 5:56:25 AM GGCrono
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The situation only becomes worse when Hamcrusher, a ''grag'' (a sort of dwarven preacher and lorekeeper, a "deep-down" dwarf fundamentalist) who vehemently speaks out against trolls, is found murdered beside a troll club. Vimes visits the scene, butting heads with Hamcrusher's right-hand man Ardent and a nervous servant named Helmclever, and finding an expansive tunnel system filled with doorways stretching underneath the streets of Ankh-Morpork. While there, he catches his hand on one of the sealed doorways, and it begins to itch...

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The situation only becomes worse when Hamcrusher, a ''grag'' (a sort of dwarven preacher and lorekeeper, a "deep-down" dwarf fundamentalist) who vehemently speaks out against trolls, is found murdered beside a troll club. Vimes visits the scene, butting heads with Hamcrusher's right-hand man dwarf Ardent and a nervous servant named Helmclever, and finding an expansive tunnel system filled with doorways stretching underneath the streets of Ankh-Morpork. While there, he catches his hand on one of the sealed doorways, and it begins to itch...
22nd Dec '16 11:43:40 AM SlackerSpice
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* Hypocrite: [[spoiler:The deep-downers hate Vimes's title of Blackboard Monitor, because, to them, the destruction of words is a severely heinous crime. But, at the same time, they are also willing to erase the true version of their creation story, as well as the truth behind Koom Valley, even going so far as to try and destroy the bodies to make it happen.]]

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* Hypocrite: {{Hypocrite}}: [[spoiler:The deep-downers hate Vimes's title of Blackboard Monitor, because, to them, the destruction of words is a severely heinous crime. But, at the same time, they are also willing to erase the true version of their creation story, as well as the truth behind Koom Valley, even going so far as to try and destroy the bodies to make it happen.]]
21st Dec '16 10:36:19 PM ImpudentInfidel
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* GenreSavvy: Indeed, how ''did'' Bashfullsson know Vimes would be going [[spoiler:to Koom Valley]]? Was it the power of story, or [[spoiler:the Summoning Dark]]? Or did he just realize that Vimes (with or without [[spoiler: the Summoning Dark]]) would ''never'' stop investigating until he'd rooted out the whole mystery? Or did Diamond, who knows what's really going on, slip him some info?

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* GenreSavvy: Indeed, how ''did'' Bashfullsson know Vimes would be going [[spoiler:to Koom Valley]]? Was it the power of story, or [[spoiler:the Summoning Dark]]? Or did he just realize that Vimes (with or without [[spoiler: the Summoning Dark]]) would ''never'' stop investigating until he'd rooted out the whole mystery? Or did Diamond, Mr. Shine, who knows what's really going on, slip him some info?
21st Dec '16 10:35:47 PM ImpudentInfidel
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* GenreSavvy: Indeed, how ''did'' Bashfullsson know Vimes would be going [[spoiler:to Koom Valley]]? Was it the power of story, or [[spoiler:the Summoning Dark]]? Or did he just realize that Vimes (with or without [[spoiler: the Summoning Dark]]) would ''never'' stop investigating until he'd rooted out the whole mystery?

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* GenreSavvy: Indeed, how ''did'' Bashfullsson know Vimes would be going [[spoiler:to Koom Valley]]? Was it the power of story, or [[spoiler:the Summoning Dark]]? Or did he just realize that Vimes (with or without [[spoiler: the Summoning Dark]]) would ''never'' stop investigating until he'd rooted out the whole mystery?mystery? Or did Diamond, who knows what's really going on, slip him some info?
21st Dec '16 10:30:50 PM ImpudentInfidel
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* MadArtist: Methodia Rascal, who painted the Koom Valley painting the plot is driven by, believed he was a chicken. Or that he was being pursued by a chicken; the notes he left weren't consistent on this point, as the characters note. Either way he was eventually found dead with a mouth full of feathers after writing '''IT COMES'''.
20th Dec '16 3:42:31 PM SlackerSpice
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* Hypocrite: [[spoiler:The deep-downers hate Vimes's title of Blackboard Monitor, because, to them, the destruction of words is a severely heinous crime. But, at the same time, they are also willing to erase the true version of their creation story, as well as the truth behind Koom Valley, even going so far as to try and destroy the bodies to make it happen.]]
22nd Nov '16 4:31:06 PM hyruleHistorian
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* AttractivenessIsolation: Currently provides the page quote for the trope. Tawneee the dancer falls under this, even going so far as to go out with Nobby, simply because he's the first person to ever ask.
6th Nov '16 10:54:00 PM AnonFangeekGirl
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* ArcSymbol: The Summoning Dark mine-sign, which looks somewhat like a floating eye with a tail. Every so often, objects around Vimes just so happen to fall in a way that forms this sign, [[spoiler: which is a sign that Vimes has been possessed by the Summoning Dark]]. To a rather lesser extent, the Following Dark symbol, which is basically a written way of saying that doom is in the air.



* DarkIsEvil: Dwarves don't believe this and it's usually averted with their mine-signs, which usually take the form of X Dark and can mean pretty much anything- 'Long Dark' simply means a mine, for instance- but there's two instances that play it mostly straight. There's the Following Dark sign, which means 'apprehension about the future' and generally signals that the writer thinks the situation is going to go to hell very fast, and the Summoning Dark, which is considered the evilest of the mine signs and is also an entity of pure darkness driven away by light.



* DemonicPossession: How the Summoning Dark works. It gets into people and feeds their anger and thirst for vengeance. [[spoiler: It's been in Vimes for most of the book, ever since he passed the locked door, behind which a dying, betrayed miner had invoked the Summoning Dark.]]

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* DemonicPossession: How the Summoning Dark works. It gets into people and feeds their anger and thirst for vengeance. vengeance, influencing their actions more and more. [[spoiler: It's been in Vimes for most of the book, ever since he passed by the locked door, behind which a dying, betrayed miner had invoked the Summoning Dark.]]



* FurAgainstFang: Werewolves and vampires do ''not'' get on.

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* FurAgainstFang: Werewolves and vampires do ''not'' get on.along. The "elegant" nature of vampires makes werewolves feel like stupid animals, and vampires are envious of the werewolves' ability to easily change shape and pass as human.


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* MeaningfulName: 'Ardent' means passionate or zealous.


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** [[spoiler: The Summoning Dark bit off a bit more than it could chew when it attempted to possess Vimes. It ended up thrown out by the Guarding Dark.]]
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