History Discworld / SmallGods

27th Jul '17 5:43:03 PM PaulA
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* KilledOffForReal: [[spoiler:Brutha dies of old age at the end, one of the few Discworld protagonists not to make to the end of a novel]].
7th Jul '17 5:00:32 AM Scorntex
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** A few Ephebian philosophers mention that it's not a good idea to start pondering whether the gods exist or not, because the poor bugger who does gets hit with one that has a note tied to it saying "yes, we do".


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* HistoryRepeats: A common problem with Ephebian democracy. The Tyrant is elected because he has been determined to be eligible by dint of not being either a liar, a criminal, a madman, a foreigner or [[TheLastOfTheseIsNotLikeTheOthers a woman]]. Then, once he's in office, he's found to be at least one of these things, kicked out, the Ephebians vote for a new bloke, who... is also either a liar, a criminal, a madman, a foreigner or a woman.
-->'''Footnote:''' Really, it's amazing that people keep making the same mistake.
5th Jul '17 8:44:59 PM PaulA
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* VowOfCelibacy: Evidently applicable, although never stated outright, for the clergy of Om. This caused Brother Nhumrod great difficulty.
1st Jul '17 7:35:26 AM sabremeister
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** Way back in the fourth book, ''Sourcery,'' Death muses that he dreads those cliched chess games because he can never remember how the knights are supposed to move. Sure enough, when he's playing chess with the Abbot, he has to ask again.

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** Way back in the fourth fifth book, ''Sourcery,'' Death muses that he dreads those cliched chess games because he can never remember how the knights are supposed to move. Sure enough, when he's playing chess with the Abbot, he has to ask again.
22nd May '17 12:15:14 PM SchisselEL1
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** There are many references to famous Greek philosophers in the book. In fact, if you know the legend of how [[spoiler:[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeschylus Aeschylus]]]] died, than with some thought it's becomes obvious how [[spoiler:Vorbis]] will die.

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** There are many references to famous Greek philosophers in the book. In fact, if you know the legend of how [[spoiler:[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeschylus Aeschylus]]]] died, than then with some thought it's it becomes obvious how [[spoiler:Vorbis]] will die.



** Terry also manages at least one truly audacious ShoutOut. (Well, he has said that he's disappointed none of his books have yet been bonfired by Deep South Fundamentalists.) When Brutha is in his old familiar garden praying for guidance from a God who has apparently withdrawn himself, when he is frightened of the consequences of disobeying Vorbis but knowing he has to do it, while wishing somebody else would. This is [[Literature/TheBible Jesus Christ]] in the garden of Gethsemane.
** Another rather obscure one; early in the book it is mentioned that some of the crueller novices call Brutha "the big dumb ox". The "dumb ox" was one of several nicknames for [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Aquinas St Thomas Aquinas]] (though "dumb" in his case referred to his not speaking very much, rather than a lack of intelligence,) who re-examined a lot of his Church's dogma in conjunction with natural law and Aristotelian logic, and whose work continues to be extremely influential. One of Aquinas' other nicknames, the "gentle doctor", is also appropriate for Brutha's AllLovingHero status.

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** Terry also manages at least one truly audacious ShoutOut. (Well, he has said that he's disappointed none of his books have yet been bonfired by Deep South Fundamentalists.) When Brutha is in his old familiar garden praying for guidance from a God who has apparently withdrawn himself, when he is frightened of the consequences of disobeying Vorbis but knowing he has to do it, while wishing somebody else would. This would: this is [[Literature/TheBible Jesus Christ]] in the garden Garden of Gethsemane.
** Another rather obscure one; one: early in the book it is mentioned that some of the crueller more cruel novices call Brutha "the big dumb ox". The "dumb ox" was one of several nicknames for [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Aquinas St Thomas Aquinas]] (though "dumb" in his case referred to his not speaking very much, rather than a lack of intelligence,) who re-examined a lot of his Church's dogma in conjunction with natural law and Aristotelian logic, and whose work continues to be extremely influential. One of Aquinas' other nicknames, the "gentle doctor", is also appropriate for Brutha's AllLovingHero status.



** Urn gives this to [[HeWhoFightsMonsters Simony]] when he states [[spoiler:he wants to let Brutha die and become an useful martyr for Simony's war against the Church of Omnia]].

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** Urn gives this to [[HeWhoFightsMonsters Simony]] when he states [[spoiler:he wants to let Brutha die and become an a useful martyr for Simony's war against the Church of Omnia]].
16th May '17 5:46:11 PM Malysano
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-->"Beneath the temple, Urn and sergeant Freegmen made their way through the tunnels of the citadel using the kind of nonchalant walk which would draw detailed and arrow-sharp attention to them in seconds. Fortunately, the guards were all above ground at the ceremony."

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-->"Beneath the temple, Urn and sergeant Freegmen Fergmen made their way through the tunnels of the citadel using the kind of nonchalant walk which would draw detailed and arrow-sharp attention to them in seconds. Fortunately, the guards were all above ground at the ceremony."
16th May '17 5:39:26 PM Malysano
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-->"Beneath the temple, Urn and sergeant Simony made their way through the tunnels of the citadel using the kind of nonchalant walk which would draw detailed and arrow-sharp attention to them in seconds. Fortunately, the guards were all above ground at the ceremony."

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-->"Beneath the temple, Urn and sergeant Simony Freegmen made their way through the tunnels of the citadel using the kind of nonchalant walk which would draw detailed and arrow-sharp attention to them in seconds. Fortunately, the guards were all above ground at the ceremony."
9th Oct '16 6:26:31 AM Aquila89
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** Om's first follower was a shepherd, looking for a lost sheep. It's said of him that he "had a hundred sheep, and it might have been surprising that he was prepared to spend days searching for one sheep; in fact, it was because he was the kind of man prepared to spend days looking for a lost sheep that he had a hundred sheep." This is a reference to the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_Lost_Sheep Parable of the Lost Sheep]] from the New Testament: "If a man owns a hundred sheep, and one of them wanders away, will he not leave the ninety-nine on the hills and go to look for the one that wandered off?"
5th Oct '16 4:19:55 PM ImpudentInfidel
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* OddJobGods: Om mentions he knows a goddess of lettuce. He actually praises her ingenuity; it's such a specific niche that she'll never be all that powerful, but it also means nobody cares enough to challenge her for it and she can fit herself into the mythology of whatever major god is dominant at the moment as a lessor spirit.
8th Sep '16 9:41:18 PM Micah
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* BedtimeBrainwashing: A king wants to become learned without actually taking the time to read anything, so Didactylos suggests having slaves whisper bits of knowledge in his ear while he sleeps.
-->"Did that work?" \\
"Don't know. The third slave stuck a six-inch dagger in his ear. Then after the revolution the new ruler let me out of prison and said I could leave the country if I promised not to think of anything on the way to the border. But I don't believe there was anything wrong with the idea in principle."
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