History Discworld / Nightwatch

5th Dec '17 10:20:16 AM nighttrainfm
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** Lady Meserole was clearly as power-hungry a schemer as anyone else, whose nephew suggested that she let him kill Keel for expediency (though she only gave him empty threats). But when she sees [[spoiler:Snapcase turn around and order his death despite the amnesty]] she's so disgusted she [[spoiler:orders Vetinari to protect Keel, and he happily obliges]].
** The Night Watch aren't above accepting bribes and engaging in the occasional bit of police brutality. The Unmentionables' behavior make them very uncomfortable, though.
** Similarly The Watch don't have many standards even amongst themselves but you ''do not drop your mates in the cacky.''

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** Lady Meserole was clearly as power-hungry a schemer as anyone else, whose nephew suggested that she let him kill Keel for expediency (though she only gave him empty threats). But when she sees [[spoiler:Snapcase turn around and order his death despite the amnesty]] she's so disgusted she [[spoiler:orders Vetinari to protect Keel, and he happily obliges]].
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** The Night Watch aren't above accepting bribes and engaging in the occasional bit of police brutality. The Unmentionables' behavior make makes them very uncomfortable, though.
** Similarly The
though. Similarly, the Watch don't have many standards even amongst themselves themselves, but you ''do not drop your mates in the cacky.''
4th Dec '17 8:25:45 PM Materioptikon
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* BadNewsInAGoodWay: Parodied; it's the reason Nobby isn't sent out to inform the family when a Watchman is killed - just once is far too much of the "bet-you-a-dollar-you're-the-widow-Jackson" nonsense.
20th Nov '17 4:12:19 PM Outis
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* CluelessBoss: After some interaction with his old captain, Vimes comes to realize Captain Tilden was this. This really gets shown when Tilden is abruptly relieved of command: the younger version of Vimes is outraged that the well-meaning Tilden is removed, while the older Vimes now knows that Tilden is horribly out of place as a police captain and way behind the times, and essentially thinks that Tilden is a nice old man who's better off out of the way of the chaos that is about to unfold.

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* CluelessBoss: After some interaction with his old captain, Vimes comes to realize Captain Tilden is a decent man who does his best, but sadly his best isn't very good when it comes to law enforcement (he was this.a career soldier). Vimes failed to recognise this at the time but it's clear to his older, more experienced self. This really gets shown when Tilden is abruptly relieved of command: the younger version of Vimes is outraged that the well-meaning Tilden is removed, while the older Vimes now knows that Tilden is horribly out of place as a police captain and way behind the times, and essentially thinks that Tilden is a nice old man who's better off out of the way of the chaos that is about to unfold.
9th Nov '17 4:24:40 PM Bissek
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* DoWrongRight: Vimes wants the citizens to take down their barricade right now...and build it properly this time! (More of "Do Illegal Things I Don't Actually Think Are Wrong, Right" in this case, though.)

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* DoWrongRight: Vimes wants the citizens to take down their barricade right now...and erect it on the other side of the street! And build it properly this time! (More of "Do Illegal Things I Don't Actually Think Are Wrong, Right" in this case, though.)
5th Oct '17 3:25:21 PM Schismatism
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** Ponder tries to use this against Carrot, mixed with a good bit of TechnoBabble. It fails, because Carrot's quick enough to recognize exactly what Ponder's prevaricating about.
15th Sep '17 10:03:52 PM LadyJafaria
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* ProducePelting: Downey throws an apple at Vetinari, but Vetinari catches it on his fork. Without even looking up from his book.
13th Aug '17 12:30:06 PM nighttrainfm
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[[note]] the same time altering one from ''Thief of Time''[[/note]] strikes, it causes a freak magical incident that catapults Vimes and Carcer thirty years back in time. Vimes soon inadvertently [[YouWillBeBeethoven steps into the shoes of his old mentor, John Keel]][[note]]named for the writer and researcher of ''Literature/TheMothmanProphecies''[[/note]] and quickly lands himself right in the middle of the Ankh-Morpork civil war. Now he has to stop Carcer, fill his mentor's role in his younger self's life, and protect the citizens of Ankh-Morpork and his fellow Watchmen from the impending war. Except that if he succeeds, [[GetBackToTheFuture he will no longer be able to return to his timeline]]. Basically ''Series/{{Life On Mars|2006}}'' meets ''Literature/LesMiserables''.

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[[note]] the same time altering one from ''Thief of Time''[[/note]] strikes, it causes a freak magical incident that catapults Vimes and Carcer thirty years back in time. Vimes soon inadvertently [[YouWillBeBeethoven steps into the shoes of his old mentor, John Keel]][[note]]named for the writer and researcher of ''Literature/TheMothmanProphecies''[[/note]] and quickly lands himself right in the middle of the Ankh-Morpork civil war. Now he has to stop Carcer, fill his mentor's role in his younger self's life, and protect the citizens of Ankh-Morpork and his fellow Watchmen from the impending war. Except that if he succeeds, [[GetBackToTheFuture he will no longer be able to return to his timeline]]. Basically ''Series/{{Life On Mars|2006}}'' meets ''Literature/LesMiserables''.
5th Aug '17 1:27:57 PM nighttrainfm
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* LittleBrotherIsWatching: Young Sam has this effect on his future self. Vimes knocks out a torturer instead of killing him and lets refugees into the barricades because he knows he has to set a good example. Even once he gets back to the present, he brings Carcer in by the book because he can ''feel'' his younger self watching him.

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* LittleBrotherIsWatching: Young Sam has this effect on his future self. Vimes knocks out a torturer instead of killing him and lets refugees into the barricades instead of playing it safe because he knows he has to set a good example. Even once he gets back to the present, he brings Carcer in by the book because he can ''feel'' his younger self watching him.
4th Aug '17 5:00:40 AM nighttrainfm
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* HeroWorshipper: Young Sam becomes this to "Keel".



* LineInTheSand: Vimes makes one right before training his men for the barricade; later, history books will disagree about what happened but they all agreed about Sergeant Keel and the Line. Young Sam is the first to step over.

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* LineInTheSand: Vimes makes one right before training his men for the barricade; later, history books will disagree about what happened but they all agreed about Sergeant Keel and the Line. Young Sam is the first to step over. over, which Vimes finds almost embarrassing.
* LittleBrotherIsWatching: Young Sam has this effect on his future self. Vimes knocks out a torturer instead of killing him and lets refugees into the barricades because he knows he has to set a good example. Even once he gets back to the present, he brings Carcer in by the book because he can ''feel'' his younger self watching him.
31st Jul '17 1:12:46 PM Fliegenbein400
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** Dickinson of Llamedos is a retired army officer from the Discworld equivalent of Wales, who is obsessed with military history - could he be any relation to Fluellen in Theatre/HenryV, who is also a Welsh army officer obsessed with military history? Arguably the City Watch series in general could be seen as an alternative outworking of Theatre/HenryIV and Theatre/HenryV, with Vimes and Carrot offering alternative pictures of what Hal might have done if he had learned to be a hero without becoming king and without rejecting his former friends.
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