History Discworld / Nightwatch

9th Jun '16 3:34:03 PM LentilSandEater
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** Which takes on a whole new (hilarious) meaning if you remember Brick Top's speech from ''{{Film/Snatch}}'': "Do you know what 'nemesis' means? A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent. Personified in this case by an 'orrible cunt..." In this universe, Vimes.
9th Jun '16 3:33:19 PM LentilSandEater
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*** [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] when it turns out that [[spoiler:nope, Reg was ''right.'']]
9th Jun '16 3:29:25 PM LentilSandEater
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* DoomedMoralVictor: Parodied, as the villains consider "You may take our lives, but you'll never take our freedom" to be the dumbest revolutionary slogan ever. Specifically, Carcer replies "Wrong," and cue the hail of crossbow bolts. However, [[FridgeBrilliance if you think about it]], they did take Reg's life, but they never took his freedom.

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* DoomedMoralVictor: Parodied, as the villains consider "You may take our lives, but you'll never take our freedom" to be the dumbest revolutionary slogan ever. Specifically, Carcer replies "Wrong," and cue the hail of crossbow bolts. However, [[FridgeBrilliance if you think about it]], they did take Reg's life, but they never took his freedom.



** A bit of {{Fridge Brilliance}} in that one. Imagine Vimes as a ball, Keel as a cube, & the time travel as a tunnel that loops back on itself. Vimes goes into the tunnel at Pv, & comes out at Pk, where Keel is now dead. Keel's death knocks Vimes into Keel's temporal path, thereby forcing the ball to take the cube's place. Once this happens, THE BALL HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE ONE IN THAT TEMPORAL PATH, meaning that Keel's politics are now, AND ALWAYS HAVE BEEN moot, as it was always Vimes who taught Sam.



** The unnamed Captain who met Vimes's barricades during his patrol. Despite the fact that all barricades were ordered to be pulled down, he took time to understand the situation and listened to Vimes's argument that the area behind was much '''safer''' than the so called safe zones and eventually filed a report to his superiors that basically told them to ignore this area, estimating that the situation would resolve itself. In a moment of Fridge Brilliance, we realize that he was right all along as no amount of military force managed to tear down the barricade but when the amnesty was declared, the rebels disassembled the barricades themselves.
** Don't forget Major Clive Mountjoy-Standfast and Captain Tom Wrangle. They were the military officers in charge of pacifying the streets and were both decent, reasonable and competent men. Shame that they had to take orders from Carcer.

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** The unnamed Captain who met Vimes's barricades during his patrol. Despite the fact that all barricades were ordered to be pulled down, he took time to understand the situation and listened to Vimes's argument that the area behind was much '''safer''' than the so called safe zones and eventually filed a report to his superiors that basically told them to ignore this area, estimating that the situation would resolve itself. In a moment of Fridge Brilliance, we realize that he was right all along as no amount of military force managed to tear down the barricade but when the amnesty was declared, the rebels disassembled the barricades themselves.
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** Don't forget Major Clive Mountjoy-Standfast and Captain Tom Wrangle. They were the military officers in charge of pacifying the streets and were both decent, reasonable and competent men. Shame that they had to take orders from Carcer.
9th Jun '16 3:28:17 PM LentilSandEater
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** [[spoiler:It isn't Vetinari entering that does him in. It's the fact that, through his aunt's machinations in getting the 'right' people into the right 'groups', Vetinari is able to close the distance...and go 'boo']]
9th Jun '16 3:25:18 PM LentilSandEater
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** Normally amiable Fred Colon's reaction to a young corporal asking why they were wearing sprigs of lilac seems quite disproportionate, as it seems like a fair question to us, but as the reason becomes apparent later in the book the incident implies that the subject of the revolution is a BerserkButton for Colon.
*** Mind you, it's not the question itself that sets Colon off, but the young corporal's (well-meaning) offer to put on a lilac as well, which Colon finds presumptive. (Lilac aside, the Watch goes far out of its way to avoid honoring the men who died in the revolution, to prevent others from trying to emulate them.)

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** Normally amiable Fred Colon's reaction to a young corporal asking why they were wearing sprigs of lilac lilac, and whether the corporal should be wearing one, seems quite disproportionate, as it seems like a fair question to us, but as the reason becomes apparent later in the book the incident implies that the subject of the revolution is a BerserkButton for Colon.
*** Mind you, it's not the question itself that sets Colon off, but the young corporal's (well-meaning) offer to put on a lilac as well, which Colon finds presumptive. (Lilac aside, the Watch goes far out of its way to avoid honoring the men who died in the revolution, to prevent others from trying to emulate them.)
Colon.
8th May '16 5:58:11 AM nighttrainfm
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* AcquiredPoisonImmunity: Winder's food taster is said to have eaten so much poison that he's proof against almost anything and can turn silver black by breathing on it. He's taken to eating toads just to stay in practice and talking about poisons like mild seasoning.
8th May '16 5:51:11 AM nighttrainfm
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* UrbanWarfare: Once the regiments are called in to crush the rebellion, much is made of city-fighting's various complications. Cavalry action proves pretty much useless in a city built out of narrow alleyways, particularly in the Shades, where horses are known as lunch.

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* UrbanWarfare: Once the regiments are called in to crush the rebellion, much is made of city-fighting's various complications. complications and how their "enemy" has no uniform. Cavalry action proves pretty much useless in a city built out of narrow alleyways, particularly in the Shades, where horses are known as lunch.lunch.
-->''Cities were to be laid siege to, or defended. They weren't for fighting in. You couldn't see, you couldn't group, you couldn't manoeuvre and you were always going to be up against people who knew the place like their own kitchen. And you definitely didn't want to fight an enemy that had no uniform.''
8th May '16 5:48:12 AM nighttrainfm
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* UrbanWarfare: Once the regiments are called in to crush the rebellion, much is made of city-fighting's various complications. Cavalry action proves pretty much useless in a city built out of narrow alleyways, particularly in the Shades, where horses are known as lunch.
6th May '16 11:40:04 AM pi4t
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* YouJustToldMe: [[spoiler: Present day Vetinari confirms his suspicion that Vimes was Keel by calling him "Sergeant". Played with: What actually confirms it is Vimes' response when he notices: "You knew?"]]
4th May '16 11:36:23 PM ImpudentInfidel
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* StagedPopulistUprising: The rebellion against Lord Winder is being subtly masterminded by [[spoiler: Madam Meserole]].

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* StagedPopulistUprising: The rebellion against Lord Winder is being subtly masterminded by [[spoiler: Madam Meserole]]. In fact for the most part it isn't really happening at all; the military is being sent in to break up protests (turning them into massacres and riots), and most of the barricades are just the neighborhoods trying to keep the chaos out of their own area until the whole thing dies down.
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