History Discworld / MonstrousRegiment

29th Jul '17 4:35:07 PM ImpudentInfidel
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* ThePoliticalOfficer: Strappi.

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* ThePoliticalOfficer: Strappi.Strappi is a particularly loathsome example. He takes cruel delight in bullying his soldiers (to the point that one of them throws up whenever he starts yelling), talks big about patriotism, and when it looks like he's actually going to get sent to the front, wets himself and deserts. Oddly, the identities of Borogravian political officers seems to be a secret - Strappi's status is just rumoured at first, until TheReveal. As such they're probably more of a cross between this trope and [[StateSec Stasi-esque]] informants, presumably to avert the inherent risk of [[UnfriendlyFire fragging]] that comes with the role (and indeed, the squad were fairly openly planning to do this at the first opportunity before he deserted). The finale reveals [[spoiler: he was actually there to investigate the paperwork irregularities around the Sergeant in a relatively mundane InternalAffairs operation, and when his actions come to light (not just the desertion but his general conduct) he's put up on official charges himself]].
28th Jul '17 5:08:55 AM NanoMoose
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: Borogravia's geography and constant wars are reminiscent of the Balkan conflicts following the disintegration of Yugoslavia, while the treatment of women in Nugganic Borogravia is basically cherry-picked from a number of misogynistic {{Double Standard}}s throughout history, from Polly needing her brother to act as the nominal owner of the family inn to women being threatened with beatings or even imprisonment for various crimes to "unattached" women being frowned upon. As a starving country where the military is the only functional part of the government and the head of state is worshiped as a demi-god, it's also rather reminiscent of North Korea.
** There is planty of resemblance to both Yugoslavia and the old Austro-Hungarian Empire bits of it used to be bits of. The country name "Zlobenia" is a dead giveaway, being a simple mashing of "zlo" (evil) and Slovenia, just like a native german speaker would mispronounce it. Borogravia could stand in for any of the Yugoslav (or Austro-Hungarian) states on a bad day. The constant wars which plagued the region for centuries, the way citizens are practically only there to be servants and cannon fodder, and the ever more bizzare religious zealotry is also right on the money.

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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: Borogravia's geography and constant wars are reminiscent of the Balkan conflicts following the disintegration of Yugoslavia, while the treatment of women in Nugganic Borogravia is basically cherry-picked from a number of misogynistic {{Double Standard}}s throughout history, from Polly needing her brother to act as the nominal owner of the family inn to women being threatened with beatings or even imprisonment for various crimes to "unattached" women being frowned upon. As a starving country where the military is the only functional part of the government and the head of state is worshiped worshipped as a demi-god, it's also rather reminiscent of North Korea.
** There is planty of resemblance to both Yugoslavia and the old Austro-Hungarian Empire bits of it used to be bits of. The country name "Zlobenia" is a dead giveaway, being a simple mashing of "zlo" (evil) and Slovenia, just like a native german German speaker would mispronounce it. Borogravia could stand in for any of the Yugoslav (or Austro-Hungarian) states on a bad day. The constant wars which plagued the region for centuries, the way citizens are practically only there to be servants and cannon fodder, and the ever more bizzare bizarre religious zealotry is also right on the money.



* NothingIsScarier: The ''very'' little we hear about how the Girls' Working School treated the girls who were locked up there is twice as terrifying as a detailed description would have been. As a specific example, Polly says she met a man who worked there who seemed nice enough. Tonker replies, without going into any further detail, that "He was good at seeming."

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* NothingIsScarier: The ''very'' little we hear about how the Girls' Working School treated the girls who were locked up there is twice as terrifying as a detailed description would have been. As a specific example, Polly says she met a man local priest who worked there who and seemed nice enough.harmless, if kind of stodgy. Tonker replies, without going into any further detail, that "He was good at seeming."
18th Jul '17 10:50:37 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* GenreSavvy: The Zlobenians don't make the same mistake.
** [[spoiler: It's implied that the Alliance let Blouse's charade go on so that the rest of his unit would come to the fortress and be captured.]]
** [[spoiler:Or alternatively, that despite the laughably bad acting he showed the squad before he sneaked in, he's actually an ''amazingly good actor''. He is one of the most unexpected [[BunnyEarsLawyer bunny-eared lawyers]] in the series, after all.]]
** [[spoiler: It doesn't hurt that he irons like a demon, either.]]
2nd Jul '17 12:15:55 PM nombretomado
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* SpoilerTitle: [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_First_Blast_of_the_Trumpet_Against_the_Monstrous_Regiment_of_Women Here's]] the [[TheOtherWiki Other Wiki]] article for those interested.
** More of a shout out, as the article on the [[TheOtherWiki Other Wiki]] is about a mid 1500s political work from which the title of the book itself is taken as a [[HistoricalInJoke Historical In-Joke]]

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* SpoilerTitle: [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_First_Blast_of_the_Trumpet_Against_the_Monstrous_Regiment_of_Women Here's]] the [[TheOtherWiki Other Wiki]] Wiki/TheOtherWiki article for those interested.
** More of a shout out, as the article on the [[TheOtherWiki Other Wiki]] Wiki/TheOtherWiki is about a mid 1500s political work from which the title of the book itself is taken as a [[HistoricalInJoke Historical In-Joke]]HistoricalInJoke.
1st Jul '17 8:44:30 PM sabremeister
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* TitleDrop: A captured enemy soldier calls the protagonists the "monsterous regiment" because they've got a vampire, a troll, and an Igor among their ranks.

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* TitleDrop: A captured enemy soldier calls the protagonists the "monsterous regiment" because they've got a vampire, a troll, and an Igor and a werewolf among their ranks.ranks. [[spoiler: The bit about the werewolf isn't true, but it is a [[{{Foreshadowing}} hint]] that Angua is keeping the squad under observation.]]
22nd Jun '17 7:44:05 PM PaulA
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* RecruitersAlwaysLie: One of the signs that the war is going so poorly is that the recruiting party can't even be bothered to try.


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* ShamefulStrip: Inflicted on captive soldiers.


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* StopWorshippingMe: The Duchess. All the prayers to her treat her like a goddess, but as much as she wants to help she's only a deceased woman, powerless to do anything, and she just wants to be let off the hook.
21st Jun '17 5:15:15 PM Materioptikon
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* DirtyCoward: [[spoiler:Strappi's a bully and pretty vicious with the newbies, but when he receives word that his cushy post as recruiter and ThePoliticalOfficer has been exchanged for a position in the front lines, he promptly beats feet.]]
19th Jun '17 9:11:35 PM PaulA
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* LivingLegend: Sergeant Jackrum of the Borogravian army has fought in every single war for forty years. The Sergeant knows everyone. Everyone knows the Sergeant. The Sergeant's reputation is such that generals will leave the room at the Sergeant's request.
22nd May '17 5:07:48 PM SventheCrusader
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* CrapsackWorld: Or rather Crapsack Nation, an uncommon trope for Pratchett. Even the main cast of local Borogravians understand that their homeland is just about one of the dumbest, craziest, and most backwards places on the Disc.
21st May '17 12:29:41 PM isolato
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** The uniforms, the running gag about military leaders having articles of clothing named after them, the Duchess hiding in mourning for years, the first time where military forces relied on the mass media for intel... You could find similarities in the UsefulNotes/CrimeanWar, where the British had red uniforms, with UsefulNotes/QueenVictoria who is [[PopcultularOsmosis often remembered]] when she was in a state of mourning, commanders included the "knitwear lords" - the 7th Earl of Cardigan, the 1st Baron Raglan, while the 7th Earl of Jersey was a leading member of the government of the day (oh, and balaclavas are named after the location of one of the battles) - and Russians were intercepting this new "telegraph" which the ''Times'' used to report the latest news...

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** The uniforms, the running gag about military leaders having articles of clothing named after them, the Duchess hiding in mourning for years, the first time where military forces relied on the mass media for intel... You could find similarities in the UsefulNotes/CrimeanWar, where the British had red uniforms, with UsefulNotes/QueenVictoria who is [[PopcultularOsmosis [[PopculturalOsmosis often remembered]] when she was in a state of mourning, commanders included the "knitwear lords" - the 7th Earl of Cardigan, the 1st Baron Raglan, while the 7th Earl of Jersey was a leading member of the government of the day (oh, and balaclavas are named after the location of one of the battles) - and Russians were intercepting this new "telegraph" which the ''Times'' used to report the latest news...
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