History Discworld / Jingo

29th Jun '16 1:41:55 AM NanoMoose
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** Also the basis of a key plot point: [[spoiler:the Klatchians were able to ensure Vimes wouldn't suspect them of paying an assassin by planting clues that looked like a ham-fisted attempt by ignorant racists to implicate Klatchians--using Klatchian money, 'sand out of his sandals on the floor', etc.]].

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** Also the basis of a key plot point: [[spoiler:the Klatchians were able to ensure Vimes wouldn't suspect them of paying an assassin by planting clues that looked like a ham-fisted attempt by ignorant racists to implicate Klatchians--using Klatchians -- using Klatchian money, 'sand out of his sandals on the floor', etc.]].



--->[[{{Gorn}} "I know what I said"]]

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--->[[{{Gorn}} --->[[LudicrousGibs "I know what I said"]]said."]]



** Extensive ones to LawrenceOfArabia-- Carrot and Vimes split the role of Lawrence between them, and Vimes plays out the "the trick is not minding that it hurts" scene with Rust.[[note]] Although with a burning coal rather than a match. It's a lot easier with a match...[[/note]]
** A shout out to SweeneyTodd also occurs. "That business with the barber on Gleam Street--Sweeney Jones, his name was? Of course, he ''was'' killing people, but he hadn't meant to. He was just a very bad barber."

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** Extensive ones to LawrenceOfArabia-- LawrenceOfArabia -- Carrot and Vimes split the role of Lawrence between them, and Vimes plays out the "the trick is not minding that it hurts" scene with Rust.[[note]] Although Rust. [[note]]Although with a burning coal rather than a match. It's a lot easier with a match...[[/note]]
** A shout out to SweeneyTodd also occurs. "That business with the barber on Gleam Street--Sweeney Street -- Sweeney Jones, his name was? Of course, he ''was'' killing people, but he hadn't meant to. He was just a very bad barber."



** Nobby gets named Beti as his alias. Colon of course ends up saying "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULjCSK0oOlI You can call me Al]]"

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** Nobby gets named Beti as his alias. Colon of course ends up saying "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULjCSK0oOlI You can call me Al]]"Al]]."



* TruthInTelevision: The main driver of the plot, an island rising from the bottom of the sea and being the source of diplomatic disputes? ''Really happened''. Ferdinandea, or Graham Island, was a volcanic island that rose from the ocean and was the cause of a four-way dispute regarding it's sovereignty, between Britain, France, Spain, and the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies. [[spoiler:And yes, it did sink before the diplomatic issues could be resolved.]]

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* TruthInTelevision: The main driver of the plot, an island rising from the bottom of the sea and being the source of diplomatic disputes? ''Really happened''. That really happened. Ferdinandea, or Graham Island, was a volcanic island that rose from the ocean and was the cause of a four-way dispute regarding it's its sovereignty, between Britain, France, Spain, and the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies. [[spoiler:And yes, it did sink before the diplomatic issues could be resolved.]]
9th Jun '16 3:50:42 PM LentilSandEater
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** It also didn't make a speck of difference. Vimes still went back to the Watch House, everyone still obeyed him and he still saw himself as Commander of the Watch (some of Lord Rust's comments -- and ''especially'' one of the wrong-timeline Dis-organiser's appointments -- indicate that even ''he'' still sees Vimes as Commander of the Watch). He didn't even hesitate a moment in continuing his duties. Detritus may have his badge carved into his arm, but Sam Vimes has his carved into his ''soul''.
9th Jun '16 3:47:21 PM LentilSandEater
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** Extensive ones to LawrenceOfArabia-- Carrot and Vimes split the role of Lawrence between them, and Vimes plays out the "the trick is not minding that it hurts" scene with Rust.[[note]] Although with a burning coal rather than a match. It's a lot easier with a match...[[/note]] Of course, this is Creator/TerryPratchett, so there's a ShoutOut and/or LampshadeHanging on pretty much every page.

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** Extensive ones to LawrenceOfArabia-- Carrot and Vimes split the role of Lawrence between them, and Vimes plays out the "the trick is not minding that it hurts" scene with Rust.[[note]] Although with a burning coal rather than a match. It's a lot easier with a match...[[/note]] Of course, this is Creator/TerryPratchett, so there's a ShoutOut and/or LampshadeHanging on pretty much every page.[[/note]]
9th Jun '16 3:45:24 PM LentilSandEater
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** Which, as it happens, [[spoiler:is [[FridgeBrilliance very much like the real villain's scheme to deflect suspicion for the assassination attempt!]]]]



** The main one is the 'H', and some Klatchians speaking Morporkian similarly leave a Klatchian-font 'H' in. This is FridgeBrilliance, because in RealLife Arabic, the tongue that the font's style evokes, indeed has several different H sounds that non-speakers find difficult to master.

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** The main one is the 'H', and some Klatchians speaking Morporkian similarly leave a Klatchian-font 'H' in. This is FridgeBrilliance, because in In RealLife Arabic, the tongue that the font's style evokes, indeed has several different H sounds that non-speakers find difficult to master.
9th Jun '16 3:41:48 PM LentilSandEater
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* FearlessUndead: Lampshaded; Detritus thinks Reg is one because if the ship sinks he'll be all right and can [[WalkDontSwim just walk to safety.]] Reg ''is'' pretty brave, but also pretty pessimistic, so he points out all the reasons why someone who can't die should still worry about a ship sinking. Including "the trouble if [[ThreateningShark a shark tries to eat me]]."

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* FearlessUndead: Lampshaded; Discussed; Detritus thinks Reg is one because if the ship sinks he'll be all right and can [[WalkDontSwim just walk to safety.]] Reg ''is'' pretty brave, but also pretty pessimistic, so he points out all the reasons why someone who can't die should still worry about a ship sinking. Including "the trouble if [[ThreateningShark a shark tries to eat me]]."
1st Jun '16 2:06:57 AM Doug86
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** The scene with Carrot managing to get opposing armies to play football with each other is a shoutout to the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_truce Christmas truce of 1914]], [[WorldWarOne where Entente and German troops along the front lines]] put aside their differences and--among other things--played football together. [[DownerEnding Seeing this their superiors scheduled more regular patrols and 'trench-raids' so they would lose friends to the enemy and kill some of them themselves, thereby encouraging them to hate the enemy and making them more willing to kill them in future. Also heavy shelling through the holidays. There were no more Christmas Truces after that]].

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** The scene with Carrot managing to get opposing armies to play football with each other is a shoutout to the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_truce Christmas truce of 1914]], [[WorldWarOne [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI where Entente and German troops along the front lines]] put aside their differences and--among other things--played football together. [[DownerEnding Seeing this their superiors scheduled more regular patrols and 'trench-raids' so they would lose friends to the enemy and kill some of them themselves, thereby encouraging them to hate the enemy and making them more willing to kill them in future. Also heavy shelling through the holidays. There were no more Christmas Truces after that]].
23rd May '16 8:44:24 PM fnhornguy
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* MuggedForDisguise: Nobby and Colon attempt this after getting to Klatch. It's subverted when they end up getting beaten up and having their own clothes stolen.
9th May '16 8:59:31 AM Spindriver
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* FriendsAreChosenFamilyArent: A basic assumption in D'Reg culture. They're honorable in their way, but ties of blood don't mean all that much to them; Ahmed's mother would be horrified if she thought he trusted her.
30th Apr '16 9:02:37 AM nighttrainfm
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* IGaveMyWord: The D'regs put no stock in oaths or swearing on things, but will always follow through if they give their word.
29th Apr '16 3:05:53 PM Observance
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** On the other hand, his own utter inconsistency in this is instantly picked up on and mocked by Nobby as part of the joke. Also, Vimes previously noted in ''Discworld/GuardsGuards'' how the average Morporkian man in the street can suddenly become seized with anti-Klatchian PatrioticFervour when the moment strikes.

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** On the other hand, his own utter inconsistency in this is instantly picked up on and mocked by Nobby as part of the joke. Also, Vimes previously noted in ''Discworld/GuardsGuards'' how the average Morporkian man in the street can suddenly become seized with anti-Klatchian PatrioticFervour when the moment strikes. Which is, indeed, exactly what happens in this book.
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