History Discworld / Hogfather

14th Apr '17 11:31:31 AM I_love_dragons
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** Averted as regards the pronunciation of Mr. Teatime's name (see ItIsPronouncedTroPAY below) - after he has repeatedly complained about this throughout the book, Susan tries to use it to put him off balance, but it doesn't work as he is merely mildly irritated by it.

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** Averted Subverted as regards the pronunciation of Mr. Teatime's name (see ItIsPronouncedTroPAY below) - after he has repeatedly complained about this throughout the book, Susan tries to use it to put him off balance, but it doesn't work as he is merely mildly irritated by it.
27th Mar '17 8:00:03 PM MarsJenkar
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* DumbassHasAPoint: The Bursar suggests willow bark as a hangover cure. Willow bark contains salicin, from which aspirin was discovered.

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* DumbassHasAPoint: The Bursar suggests willow bark as a hangover cure. [[ThatOldTimePrescription Willow bark contains salicin, from which aspirin was discovered.]]
5th Mar '17 1:34:00 PM nighttrainfm
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* EstablishingCharacterMoment: Mr. Teatime is introduced having entered head assassin Lord Downey's chamber undetected, by climbing down the chimney. He plays with Downey's dog while he waits to be noticed. This shows he's both a badass and has a whimsical, childlike personality. His conversation with Downey shows the other aspect of his personality.

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* EstablishingCharacterMoment: Mr. Teatime is introduced having entered head assassin Lord Downey's chamber undetected, by climbing down undetected through the chimney. fireplace flues. He plays with Downey's dog dogs while he waits to be noticed. This shows he's both a badass and has a whimsical, childlike personality. His conversation with Downey shows the other aspect of his personality.
18th Jan '17 12:14:38 PM Cleric_Quarion
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**A group of criminals is trying to break through a door with seven locks in a tower at Christmas/Hogswatch? [[spoiler:The leader of the group is killed by falling from a great height?]] That sounds like a certain [[Film/DieHard greatest Christmas film of all time.]]
25th Dec '16 8:10:50 PM Pilomotor
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* BatmanGambit: Death forbidding Susan from getting involved, knowing full well that she would disobey him.

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* BatmanGambit: It would have been against the rules for Death forbidding to get a human involved in his scheme, so he [[ReversePsychology forbids Susan from getting involved, knowing full well that involved]], then pretends to be surprised when she would disobey predictably disobeys him.



* LeavingFoodForSanta: On the Discworld, children leave out a pork pie and a glass of sherry for the Hogfather, and a turnip for the hogs that pull his sleigh. Albert deals with the pies and sherry (particularly enthusiastically when it comes to the sherry) and one turnip (because it was apparently pork pie shaped).

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* LeavingFoodForSanta: On the Discworld, children leave out a pork pie and a glass of sherry for the Hogfather, and a turnip for the hogs that pull his sleigh. Albert deals with the pies and sherry (particularly enthusiastically when it comes to the sherry) and one turnip (because it was apparently pork pie shaped).shaped, or at least could be mistaken for a pork pie after all that sherry).



* MallSanta: Death's rather... ''special'' stint as one is one of his tricks to regain faith in the Hogfather.

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* MallSanta: Death's rather... ''special'' stint as one is one of his tricks to regain restore faith in the Hogfather.



* MobileMenace: The Scissor Man is briefly glipsed on the far staircase, then moments later it's standing directly behind Susan.

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* MobileMenace: The Scissor Man is briefly glipsed glimpsed on the far staircase, then moments later it's standing directly behind Susan.



* NiceJobBreakingItHero: The Tooth Fairy's intention in gathering all the teeth was [[spoiler: to protect them from use in SympatheticMagic. Instead, it makes it all the easier for Teatime and his gang to get them.]]

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* NiceJobBreakingItHero: The Tooth Fairy's intention in gathering all the teeth was [[spoiler: to protect them from use in SympatheticMagic. Instead, it makes it all the easier for Teatime and his gang to get them.their hands on an incredible number of them all at once.]]
25th Dec '16 7:55:47 PM Pilomotor
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* HoistByHisOwnPetard: Teatime. Part of the brilliance of his plan was that Death could do nothing directly to stop him because Death cannot go to the Tooth Fairy's country -- because it is based on the imagination of children, who have no fully formed concept of death. Later when Susan confronts him there, he takes Death's sword from her and attempts to slay her with it, only to find [[spoiler:the blade cannot exist there either, as there is no death]].

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* HoistByHisOwnPetard: Teatime. Part of the brilliance of his plan was that Death could do nothing directly to stop him because Death cannot go to the Tooth Fairy's country -- because it is based on the imagination of children, who have no fully formed concept of death. Later when Susan confronts him there, he takes [[AbsurdlySharpBlade Death's sword sword]] from her and attempts to slay her with it, only to find [[spoiler:the blade cannot exist there either, as there is no death]].harmless there, for much the same reason]].
25th Dec '16 7:42:42 PM Pilomotor
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* DontExplainTheJoke: [[AC: I don't know if you noticed, Albert, but that was a pune, or play on words.]]

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* DontExplainTheJoke: [[AC: Let's go sleigh them! [[{{Beat}} ...]] I don't know if you noticed, Albert, but that was a pune, or play on words.]]
25th Dec '16 7:38:57 PM Pilomotor
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--> '''Death''': [[AC:The Hogfather can. The Hogfather gives presents. There's no better present than a future.]]

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--> '''Albert:''' You're not allowed to do that.\\
'''Death''': [[AC:The Hogfather [[AC:[[SubbingForSanta The Hogfather]] can. The Hogfather gives presents. There's no better present than a future.]]
22nd Dec '16 5:07:39 PM Bissek
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* CompositeCharacter: The Wizard character was given Peachy the thief's fear for the movie, and Catseye's fear was likewise ascribed to Mr. Brown, albeit without its backstory.

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* CompositeCharacter: The Wizard character was given Peachy the thief's fear for the movie, and Catseye's fear was likewise ascribed to Mr. Brown, albeit without its backstory.[[note]]Peachy and Catseye themselves were written out, as they were basically just two more mooks to get killed by the castle, without adding anything to the story.[[/note]]



* FamilyUnfriendlyDeath: Of deaths inside the castle, [[spoiler: Mr. Brown is thrown down a large number of stairs, Middle Dave simply fades from existence after being hit by a light projection of his mother, and a third dies apparently of fright after being pulled into a wardrobe that scared him as a child. But Sidney? TheWoobie wizard of the group with a penchant for sucking his thumb when frightened? The last we see of him is him sobbing in fear as the silhouette of the ''Scissor Man'' is cutting closer and closer to his head. And he had been lucky enough before to 'outlive his usefulness' minutes earlier and Teatime actually let him leave without trying to kill him.]]

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* FamilyUnfriendlyDeath: Of deaths inside the castle, [[spoiler: Mr. Brown is thrown down a large number of stairs, Middle Medium Dave simply fades from existence after being hit by a light projection of his mother, and a third dies apparently of fright after being pulled into a wardrobe that scared him as a child. But Sidney? TheWoobie wizard of the group with a penchant for sucking his thumb when frightened? The last we see of him is him sobbing in fear as the silhouette of the ''Scissor Man'' is cutting closer and closer to his head. And he had been lucky enough before to 'outlive his usefulness' minutes earlier and Teatime actually let him leave without trying to kill him.]]



* RunningGag: Albert never getting to smoke a cigarette.

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* RunningGag: Albert never getting to smoke a cigarette.[[note]]He finally gets to light up in his final scene, at which point he decides it tastes terrible and tosses it away[[/note]]
21st Dec '16 7:08:49 PM Tallens
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* DyingCandle: A long discourse parodies the last verse of Music/BlueOysterCult's ''Don't Fear The Reaper'', in which a window flies open, curtains billow out, and a candle flickers out in a very definitive manner. DEATH does not appear, possibly because his grand-daughter Susan knows what all these signs portend, and is bloody furious about it. If she's afraid of anything, it's that her well-ordered and relatively normal life is about to be turned upside down - again - by Grandfather. She is, therefore, disinclined to run to Him or take His hand.
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