History Discworld / Hogfather

17th Aug '16 8:58:52 PM PaulA
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* KickTheDog: Most assassins prevent guard dogs from giving the alarm by drugging them if they can't just avoid them; Teatime nails them to ceiling.

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* KickTheDog: Most assassins prevent guard dogs from giving the alarm by drugging them if they can't just avoid them; Teatime nails them to the ceiling.
17th Aug '16 8:58:05 PM PaulA
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* CurbStompBattle: This is, of course, the only possible outcome when you piss off ''TheGrimReaper'' himself. [[spoiler: The book does not actually ''describe'' what happens, exactly. All we know is that he was up against an army of Auditors... and [[CriticalExistenceFailure that particular group of Auditors was never heard of again]].]]

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* CurbStompBattle: This is, of course, is the only possible outcome when you piss off ''TheGrimReaper'' himself. [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The book does not actually ''describe'' what happens, exactly. All we know is that he was up against an army of Auditors... and [[CriticalExistenceFailure that particular group of Auditors was never heard of again]].]]



* DontTouchItYouIdiot: Ridcully finds a bathroom that has been boarded up, had a sign put up warning not to open the room, and the door hidden behind a bookcase. So, of course, he opens it up to see why it was closed up.

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* DontTouchItYouIdiot: Ridcully finds a bathroom that has been boarded up, had a sign put up warning not to open the room, and the door hidden behind a bookcase. So, because this is the kind of course, person he is, he opens it up to see why it was closed up. up.



* MagicalNanny: Susan's occupation during the novel. Of course, this being Susan, she's ''much'' more BadAss than the average MagicalNanny.

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* MagicalNanny: Susan's occupation during the novel. Of course, this This being Susan, she's ''much'' more BadAss than the average MagicalNanny.



* PsychoForHire: Teatime, of course.

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* PsychoForHire: Teatime, of course.Teatime.



* TrueMeaningOfChristmas: Parodied, of course. Death resolves to teach people the real meaning of Hogswatch. Albert then lists the more unpleasant (i.e. sacrificial pigs and loads of blood) aspects of pagan winter festivals until Death decides to teach people the ''un''real meaning of Hogswatch.

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* TrueMeaningOfChristmas: Parodied, of course.Parodied. Death resolves to teach people the real meaning of Hogswatch. Albert then lists the more unpleasant (i.e. sacrificial pigs and loads of blood) aspects of pagan winter festivals until Death decides to teach people the ''un''real meaning of Hogswatch.



* ShoutOut: The noble music which plays when Bilious is being sobered up is of course ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_of_Harlech Men of Harlech]]'', but is [[FilkSong also known]] to some university students, current and former, as ''The [[http://www.textfiles.com/music/bard_01.txt Alcoholics']] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=strrpmtwvl4 Anthem]]''.

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* ShoutOut: The noble music which plays when Bilious is being sobered up is of course ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_of_Harlech Men of Harlech]]'', but is [[FilkSong also known]] to some university students, current and former, as ''The [[http://www.textfiles.com/music/bard_01.txt Alcoholics']] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=strrpmtwvl4 Anthem]]''.
17th Aug '16 8:54:54 PM PaulA
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* ChristmasEpisode
* ChristmasMiracle: Numerous, including Death preventing a [[DiedHappilyEverAfter Little Matchstick Girl]] in progress.
--> '''Death''': [[AC:The Hogfather can. The Hogfather gives presents. There's no better present than a future.]]



* [[ChristmasEpisode Hogswatch Episode]]
* [[ChristmasMiracle Hogswatch Miracle]]: Numerous, including Death preventing a [[DiedHappilyEverAfter Little Matchstick Girl]] in progress.
--> '''Death''': [[AC:The Hogfather can. The Hogfather gives presents. There's no better present than [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming a future.]]]]



* KickTheDog: Most assassins prevent guard dogs from giving the alarm by drugging them if they can't just avoid them; Teatime nails them to ceiling.



* [[MallSanta Mall Hogfather]]: Death's rather... ''special'' stint as one is one of his tricks to regain faith in the Hogfather.

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* [[MallSanta Mall Hogfather]]: MallSanta: Death's rather... ''special'' stint as one is one of his tricks to regain faith in the Hogfather.



* [[KickTheDog Nail The Dog To The Ceiling]]: Teatime, of course.



* [[SavingChristmas Saving Hogswatch]]

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* [[SavingChristmas Saving Hogswatch]]SavingChristmas



* [[TrueMeaningOfChristmas True Meaning Of Hogswatch]]: Parodied, of course. Death resolves to teach people the real meaning of Hogswatch. Albert then lists the more unpleasant (i.e. sacrificial pigs and loads of blood) aspects of pagan winter festivals until Death decides to teach people the ''un''real meaning of Hogswatch.

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* [[TrueMeaningOfChristmas True Meaning Of Hogswatch]]: TrueMeaningOfChristmas: Parodied, of course. Death resolves to teach people the real meaning of Hogswatch. Albert then lists the more unpleasant (i.e. sacrificial pigs and loads of blood) aspects of pagan winter festivals until Death decides to teach people the ''un''real meaning of Hogswatch.



* [[WorldOfPun World Of Pune]]: Hex has a lot of computer puns, [[StealthPun stealth]] and otherwise -- sheep skulls (RAM), small religious pictures (icons), an 'Anthill Inside' sticker (Intel Inside), a mouse and so on. It is said that he's basically building himself off the ideas of computers from Earth.

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* [[WorldOfPun World Of Pune]]: WorldOfPun: Hex has a lot of computer puns, [[StealthPun stealth]] and otherwise -- sheep skulls (RAM), small religious pictures (icons), an 'Anthill Inside' sticker (Intel Inside), a mouse and so on. It is said that he's basically building himself off the ideas of computers from Earth.



*** The live-action adaptation had [[spoiler: his soul literally be that of a young version of him. He was in touch with his inner child [[FridgeBrilliance because he's basically the same person]] as he was when he ''was'' a child.]] It's the same reason why [[spoiler: Banjo wasn't targeted by the Tooth Fairy's defenses, but his brother was: he was, at heart, a child, and the Tooth Fairy had built his castle explicitly so he could protect children.]]

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*** The live-action adaptation had [[spoiler: his [[spoiler:his soul literally be that of a young version of him. He was in touch with his inner child [[FridgeBrilliance because he's basically the same person]] person as he was when he ''was'' a child.]] It's the same reason why [[spoiler: Banjo [[spoiler:Banjo wasn't targeted by the Tooth Fairy's defenses, but his brother was: he was, at heart, a child, and the Tooth Fairy had built his castle explicitly so he could protect children.]]
17th Aug '16 8:49:24 PM PaulA
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* NeckLift: It's mentioned that one of the reasons Banjo's considered a valuable team member despite his intellectual shortcomings is his ability to neck-lift up to four men at a time (two per hand).
23rd Jul '16 10:55:39 AM sabremeister
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--> '''Death''':[[AC: [[MagnificentBastard You might think I hadn't thought of that, but I couldn't possibly comment.]]]]

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--> '''Death''':[[AC: [[MagnificentBastard You might think I hadn't thought of that, that,]] [[ActorAllusion but I couldn't possibly comment.]]]]
23rd Jul '16 10:26:00 AM sabremeister
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* AdultFear: The entire reason the [[spoiler:Boogeyman, the living embodiment of the "monster under the bed" type scare, became the Tooth Fairy]] was to protect children from real monsters like [[PsychopathicManchild Teatime]].

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* AdultFear: The entire reason the [[spoiler:Boogeyman, [[spoiler:Bogeyman, the living embodiment of the "monster under the bed" type scare, became the Tooth Fairy]] was to protect children from real monsters like [[PsychopathicManchild Teatime]].
11th Jul '16 5:18:31 PM nighttrainfm
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* OddJobGods: Bilious, the Oh God of Hangovers becomes one by the end.

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* OddJobGods: OddJobGods:
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Bilious, the Oh God of Hangovers becomes one by the end.


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* OneBadMother: Ma Lilywhite, and then some.
11th Jul '16 5:16:43 PM nighttrainfm
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* EverythingFades: People who die in the Tooth Fairy's castle get teleported away. This is because the place is based on the imagination of children, who do not really grasp the concept of death or what happens after you die. [[spoiler:Which is why Death needed Susan to go there for him -- the Tooth Fairy's land is [[AC:A place I cannot go]]]].

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* EverythingFades: EverythingFades:
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People who die in the Tooth Fairy's castle get teleported away. This is because the place is based on the imagination of children, who do not really grasp the concept of death or what happens after you die. [[spoiler:Which is why Death needed Susan to go there for him -- the Tooth Fairy's land is [[AC:A place I cannot go]]]].


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* EvilMatriarch: Ma Lilywhite is ''dead'' and Teatime's crew is still more afraid of her than him.
-->'''Mr Brown:''' I knew old Ma Lilywhite back in the good old days. You think you're nasty? You think ''you're'' mean? Ma Lilywhite'd tear your ears off and spit 'em in your eye, you cocky little devil.
1st Jul '16 10:23:35 AM ChaoticNovelist
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* TheArtifact: Susan is the Duchess of Sto Helit, which she inherited from her father Mort, who himself was given the job at the end of ''Discworld/{{Mort}}''. This makes her choice of occupation somewhat... unusual. Given the way her status is very briefly {{Handwaved}} it seems clear that this {{Backstory}} is pretty inconvenient to Terry and the direction he wanted to take the character of Susan in, which is presumably why it is mostly ignored later.

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* TheArtifact: Susan is the Duchess of Sto Helit, which she inherited from her father Mort, who himself was given the job at the end of ''Discworld/{{Mort}}''. This makes her choice of occupation somewhat... unusual. Given unusual but it makes sense if you remember the way her status is very briefly {{Handwaved}} it seems clear that this {{Backstory}} is pretty inconvenient to Terry ending of ''Discworld/{{Mort}}'' and how all the direction he wanted Sto city state were supposed to merge together. Queen Keli is the one supposed to take the character care of Susan in, which is presumably why it is mostly ignored later.it.
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