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27th Feb '18 5:51:22 PM Thande
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* EurekaMoment: Vimes has a belated one related to the destruction of the Elucidated Brethren's building for two reasons: firstly, he recognises the distinctive run of the figure fleeing the scene as that of Lupine Wonse from his childhood, and secondly he realises that Wonse's immediate blurted-out reaction when he reported the building being destroyed made no sense unless he already knew about it:
--> "[[WhamLine Any of them get out?]]"


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** Early in the book Vimes recalls being in the same childhood gang with Lupine Wonse and remembers that Wonse had to invent an odd skipping run to keep up with the bigger boys. Near the end, he belatedly recognises that a figure running from the Elucidated Brethren's destroyed headquarters had that same gait...
21st Feb '18 5:27:39 PM CurledUpWithDakka
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* Considering that it's said by [[MagnificentBastard Havelock]] [[AntiNihilist Vetinari]], it may very well be wrong... or at least half-truth.

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* ** Considering that it's said by [[MagnificentBastard Havelock]] [[AntiNihilist Vetinari]], it may very well be wrong... or at least half-truth.
21st Feb '18 9:52:29 AM nombretomado
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** A human of heroic proportion, but naive? A foundling brought up by dwarfs, off to make his way in the world? Knows no fear? {{Siegfried}} from RichardWagner surely?

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** A human of heroic proportion, but naive? A foundling brought up by dwarfs, off to make his way in the world? Knows no fear? {{Siegfried}} from RichardWagner Music/RichardWagner surely?
30th Jan '18 3:52:26 PM CassandraLeo
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* JewishMother: Judging from Carrot's speech in the dwarf bar, dwarven mothers are the Discworld's equivalent of this trope. And for that matter, Carrot himself is basically acting as a gender-swapped equivalent throughout the speech.
--> "Can you imagine what your poor, white-bearded old mother, slaving away back in her little hole, wondering how her son is getting on tonight, can you imagine what she'd think if she saw you now? Your own dear mothers, who first showed you how to use a pickax... she's probably thinking, I expect he's having a quiet game of dominoes or something... And I bet it's been a ''long time'' since any of you wrote her a letter, too, and you promised to write every week..."
30th Jan '18 3:46:39 PM CassandraLeo
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** The final lines of the book, "[[spoiler:Perhaps the magic would last. Perhaps it wouldn't. But then, what does?]]", are almost identical in both content and delivery to the final lines of ''Film/BladeRunner'': "[[spoiler:It's too bad she won't live. But then again, who does?]]" Given the ''many'' plot parallels - [[spoiler:magic is necessary for ''Draco nobilis'' to survive on the Discworld; the specimen encountered in the book is, in fact, female; she and Errol are absconding from a society that would prefer not to have her around, much like Deckard and Rachael at the end of ''Blade Runner'']] - it's almost certain Pratchett intended them as a ShoutOut to the film.

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** The final lines of the book, "[[spoiler:Perhaps the magic would last. Perhaps it wouldn't. But then, what does?]]", are almost identical in both content and delivery to the final lines of ''Film/BladeRunner'': "[[spoiler:It's too bad she won't live. But then again, who does?]]" Given the ''many'' plot parallels - [[spoiler:magic is necessary for ''Draco nobilis'' to survive on the Discworld; Discworld, so the ending is explicitly stating that the dragon may not survive; the specimen of ''Draco nobilis'' encountered in the book is, in fact, female; she and Errol are absconding from a society that would would, to put it mildly prefer not to have her around, much like Deckard and Rachael at the end of ''Blade Runner'']] - it's almost certain Pratchett intended them as a ShoutOut to the film.
30th Jan '18 3:45:30 PM CassandraLeo
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** The final lines of the book, "[[spoiler:Perhaps the magic would last. Perhaps it wouldn't. But then, what does?]]", are almost identical in both content and delivery to the final lines of ''Film/BladeRunner'': "[[spoiler:It's too bad she won't live. But then again, who does?]]" Given the ''many'' plot parallels - [[spoiler:magic is necessary for ''Draco nobilis'' to survive on the Discworld; the specimen encountered in the book is, in fact, female; she and Errol are absconding from a society that would prefer not to have her around]] - it's almost certain Pratchett intended them as a ShoutOut to the film.

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** The final lines of the book, "[[spoiler:Perhaps the magic would last. Perhaps it wouldn't. But then, what does?]]", are almost identical in both content and delivery to the final lines of ''Film/BladeRunner'': "[[spoiler:It's too bad she won't live. But then again, who does?]]" Given the ''many'' plot parallels - [[spoiler:magic is necessary for ''Draco nobilis'' to survive on the Discworld; the specimen encountered in the book is, in fact, female; she and Errol are absconding from a society that would prefer not to have her around]] around, much like Deckard and Rachael at the end of ''Blade Runner'']] - it's almost certain Pratchett intended them as a ShoutOut to the film.
30th Jan '18 3:44:47 PM CassandraLeo
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** The final lines of the book, "[[spoiler:Perhaps the magic would last. Perhaps it wouldn't. But then, what does?]]", are almost identical in both content and delivery to the final lines of ''Film/BladeRunner'': "[[spoiler:It's too bad she won't live. But then again, who does?]]" Given the ''many'' plot parallels - [[spoiler:magic is necessary for ''Draco nobilis'' to survive on the Discworld; the specimen encountered in the book is, in fact, female; she and Errol are absconding from a society that would prefer not to have her around]] - it's almost certain Pratchett intended them as a ShoutOut to the film.
29th Jan '18 11:08:40 PM CassandraLeo
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*** These also make up the final words of Zebbo Mooty, Thief Third Class, the first person killed by ''Draco nobilis'' in some three hundred years. He finishes the curse after his death.

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*** These also make up the final words of Zebbo Mooty, Thief Third Class, the first person killed by ''Draco nobilis'' in some three hundred years. He finishes the curse after his death. (This isn't a spoiler; it happens within the first 50 pages, at least in the Corgi mass-market paperback.)
29th Jan '18 11:07:09 PM CassandraLeo
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* [[OhCrap Oh shi--]]: Colon's reaction when he realizes he has just said the "M-word".

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* ** [[OhCrap Oh shi--]]: Colon's reaction when he realizes he has just said the "M-word"."M-word".
*** These also make up the final words of Zebbo Mooty, Thief Third Class, the first person killed by ''Draco nobilis'' in some three hundred years. He finishes the curse after his death.
1st Jan '18 9:33:06 PM ArcaneAzmadi
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* PosthumousCharacter: "Leggy" Gaskin, who was killed shortly before the start of the book and we first meet Vimes on the way back from his funeral.

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* PosthumousCharacter: "Leggy" Gaskin, who was killed shortly before the start of the book and we first meet Vimes on the way back from his funeral. The character would later make a minor appearance as a young man in ''Discworld/NightWatch'' when Vimes traveled back into his own past.
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