History Discworld / CarpeJugulum

5th Apr '18 6:53:05 AM Scorntex
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* AllTheOtherReindeer: At one point, Granny thinks back to how she helped stop a child-killer. Afterward, at his funeral, some of the people there started going on about how he "wasn't really that bad", and came to the conclusion that somehow Granny must have ''made'' him do it.



* ArmorPiercingSlap: We see what happens when someone bad-mouths Granny Weatherwax in Nanny Ogg's presence. Perdita makes the nasty comment, but Agnes is the one who gets knocked to the floor.



* {{Foreshadowing}}: Nanny Ogg's KnowNothingKnowItAll nature is established early on, the witch's habit of refusing to admit they're wrong on something they know nothing about. It bites her in the arse when she insists she can resist the vampyres now that she knows what they are, even as Agnes and Perdita try to point out otherwise... and promptly gets herself charmed again.



* IndustrializedEvil: The [[spoiler: orderly and systematic blood-draining that takes place in the villages surrounding the Magpyr estate]] horrifies Agnes more than anything else the vampires do.



* IndustrializedEvil: The [[spoiler: orderly and systematic blood-draining that takes place in the villages surrounding the Magpyr estate]] horrifies Agnes more than anything else the vampires do.



* PayEvilUntoEvil: At one point, Granny thinks back to a guy who'd been killing children, and had sworn to her he hadn't "meant" to do it. Granny made sure he wound up hanged, noting that she could see Death, followed by lots of smaller spirits looking for some payback.
* PlanetOfSteves: Igor gets very offended when Nanny Ogg just ''assumes'' that he is called Igor on the basis of how he looks. Even though he ith an Igor. But he might not have been!



* StatusQuoIsGod: The people of Lancre don't mind having a king with big ideas for change....just as long as he doesn't expect them to actually listen to any of them. They like how things are as it is thank you. King Verence however manages to upset Nanny by telling her in no uncertain terms that change 'will' come whether they likes it or not, and he intends for Lancre to be at the forefront of it.

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* StatusQuoIsGod: The people of Lancre don't mind having a king with big ideas for change....change... just as long as he doesn't expect them to actually listen to any of them. They like how things are as it is thank you. King Verence however manages to upset Nanny by telling her in no uncertain terms that change 'will' come whether they likes it or not, and he intends for Lancre to be at the forefront of it.


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* WhoNamesTheirKidDude: After Esmerelda winds up with the middle name of "Note Spelling", the narration mentions that she got off easily. Due to Lancre attitudes, parents will often give their kids names that just sound good, leading to poor sods with names like Total Biscuit, and one young girl who very nearly got named Chlamydia, until her mom realised "Sally" was easier to spell.
22nd Dec '17 8:23:40 PM NanoMoose
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** A subtle one to Literature/JurassicPark: Hodgesaargh the falconer does a quick count of his birds and is satisfied that none are missing, that he has 50 as usual. A more careful count, prompted by Granny Weatherwax, reveals that he actually has 51.

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** A subtle one to Literature/JurassicPark: ''Literature/JurassicPark'': Hodgesaargh the falconer does a quick count of his birds and is satisfied that none are missing, that he has 50 as usual. A more careful count, prompted by Granny Weatherwax, reveals that he actually has 51.



* StealthPun: Mightily Oats's outfit - a broad-brimmed hat and a black robe - sounds an awful lot like a preacher for the ''Quakers'' ...

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* StealthPun: Mightily Oats's outfit - a broad-brimmed hat and a black robe - sounds an awful lot like a preacher for the ''Quakers'' ...''Quakers'', and would make him a perfect mascot for [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaker_Oats_Company Quaker Oats]]. (This might be coincidental, since the Quaker Oats Company is American.)
5th Dec '17 10:12:00 AM nighttrainfm
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* PragmaticVillainy: The Count occasionally objects to his daughter's sadistic habits, but not for altruistic reasons. They discuss the phoenix, concluding that it's absurd for a bird to burn. After all, Lacrimosa tried with a chicken -- the count says that she really should have killed it first because at least then it would've been quieter.

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* PragmaticVillainy: PragmaticVillainy:
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The Count occasionally objects to his daughter's sadistic habits, but not for altruistic reasons. They discuss the phoenix, concluding that it's absurd for a bird to burn. After all, Lacrimosa tried with a chicken -- the count says that she really should have killed it first because at least then it would've been quieter.quieter.
** The Old Count's ContractualGenreBlindness is in no small part a survival mechanism - so long as he gives people a sporting chance, people will just stake him and wait until he comes round again. If he wins too often, someone will snap and render him DeaderThanDead.
29th Nov '17 11:25:44 AM mangamanic
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* StatusQuoIsGod: The people of Lancre don't mind having a king with big ideas for change....just as long as he doesn't expect them to actually listen to any of them. They like how things are as it is thank you. King Verence however manages to upset Nanny by telling her in no uncertain terms that change 'will' come whether they likes it or not, and he intends for Lancre to be at the forefront of it.
24th Oct '17 8:57:40 PM Floria
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* ToiletHumor: The good people of Lancre attack the vampire-occupied castle by blowing up the privy.
-->"Presently, there came a short shower of soft rain. Well... certainly a shower."
20th Sep '17 3:21:44 AM NanoMoose
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* ContractualGenreBlindness: Traditional vampires like the Old Count did this for entirely pragmatic reasons, and because he was a FairPlayVillain, and Igor does it too (though mostly just to aggravate the new Count, whom he finds insufferable). The Old Count did it so people wouldn't try to make sure he stayed dead, Igor does it as a matter of style (which is integral to being an Igor), which the vampyres eschew.

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* ContractualGenreBlindness: Traditional vampires like the Old Count did this for entirely pragmatic reasons, reasons so people wouldn't try to make sure he stayed dead, and because he was a FairPlayVillain, and Igor does it too as a matter of style (though mostly just also to aggravate the new Count, whom he finds insufferable). The Old Count did it so people wouldn't try to make sure he stayed dead, Igor does it as a matter of style (which is integral to being an Igor), which the vampyres eschew.insufferable).



* {{Dehumanization}}: Granny's yardstick for evil, and also the main difference between the Count von Magpyr and the Old Count. The Count views humans as cattle who should appreciate [[IndustrializedEvil the efficient system they've built with no bodycount to the village]], while the Old Count would attack and kill people but considered them people worthy of a fighting chance and never considered that anyone should be grateful to him for it because he's still a monster.

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* {{Dehumanization}}: Granny's yardstick for evil, and also the main difference between the Count von Magpyr and the Old Count. The Count views humans as cattle who should appreciate [[IndustrializedEvil the efficient system they've built with no bodycount to the village]], while village]]; the Old Count would attack and kill people but considered respected their rules, offered them people worthy of a fighting chance chance, and never considered deluded himself into thinking that anyone should be grateful to him for it because he's still a monster.his presence.



* EitherWorldDominationOrSomethingAboutBananas: Mightily Oats notes that although the Old Book of Om is very clear about what should be done to witches, there's a school of thought which believes the passage in question has been mistranslated and was originally referring to cockroaches, and the bit about them bringing lavicious dreams might just as easily be read in context as being about boiled lobsters.

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* EitherWorldDominationOrSomethingAboutBananas: Mightily Oats notes that although the Old Book of Om is very clear about what should be done to witches, there's a school of thought which believes the passage in question has been mistranslated and was originally referring to cockroaches, and the bit about them bringing lavicious lascivious dreams might just as easily be read in context as being about boiled lobsters.
4th Sep '17 6:34:30 AM Grudgeal
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* AtLeastIAdmitIt: The Old Count, who never saw the point in trying to hide being a blood-thirsty predator. Everyone knew he was evil and he never pretended that ''not'' killing someone should somehow make them any more grateful to him. On the other hand, he was also a sportsman who gave his prey a fighting chance and held those who defeated him in high regard as a WorthyOpponent, even reminiscing about it to their descendants.


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* {{Dehumanization}}: Granny's yardstick for evil, and also the main difference between the Count von Magpyr and the Old Count. The Count views humans as cattle who should appreciate [[IndustrializedEvil the efficient system they've built with no bodycount to the village]], while the Old Count would attack and kill people but considered them people worthy of a fighting chance and never considered that anyone should be grateful to him for it because he's still a monster.
13th Aug '17 12:57:58 AM PaulA
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* OOCIsSeriousBusiness: An upset Nanny Ogg is a pretty bad thing to see, even worse than an angry Nanny. But a Nanny Ogg who misses the chance to [[DirtyOldWoman mock Agnes']] AccidentalInnuendo? Shit just got ''real''.


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* SarcasmFailure: An upset Nanny Ogg is a pretty bad thing to see, even worse than an angry Nanny. But a Nanny Ogg who misses the chance to [[DirtyOldWoman mock Agnes']] InnocentInnuendo? Shit just got ''real''.
31st Jul '17 2:08:33 AM PaulA
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** Igor expresses disdain for the kind of servant who would [[Film/{{Frankenstein}} fumble the genius brain he was sent for]] [[Film/YoungFrankenstein and substitute an insane one, hoping his masters didn't notice]].

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** Igor expresses disdain for the kind of servant who would [[Film/{{Frankenstein}} [[Film/{{Frankenstein1931}} fumble the genius brain he was sent for]] [[Film/YoungFrankenstein and substitute an insane one, hoping his masters didn't notice]].
5th Jul '17 8:44:53 PM PaulA
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* WeAllDieSomeday:
-->'''Granny Weatherwax:''' Am I dyin'?\\
'''Death:''' [[AC:Yes.]]\\
'''Granny Weatherwax:''' Will I die?\\
'''Death:''' [[AC:Yes.]]\\
'''Granny Weatherwax:''' But from your point of view, everyone is dying and everyone will die, right?\\
'''Death:''' [[AC:Yes.]]\\
'''Granny Weatherwax:''' So you aren't actually bein' a lot of help, strictly speakin'.
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