History Discontinuity / ComicBooks

23rd Jan '16 8:18:16 PM nombretomado
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** Well let's just say ''Stormwatch''/''The Authority'' fans were not too pleased with the redesigns... is that a SPIKE? On his CHIN??? Not to mention {{Stormwatch}} fans were less than amused to learn that their team's more popular spin off had taken over their comic's name and the few heroes who have shown up in cameos are apparently now evil.
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** Well let's just say ''Stormwatch''/''The Authority'' fans were not too pleased with the redesigns... is that a SPIKE? On his CHIN??? Not to mention {{Stormwatch}} ComicBook/{{Stormwatch}} fans were less than amused to learn that their team's more popular spin off had taken over their comic's name and the few heroes who have shown up in cameos are apparently now evil.
15th Jan '16 4:49:28 PM nombretomado
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** He was beaten by SquirrelGirl, though. That was written by SteveDitko! That's so in continuity!
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** He was beaten by SquirrelGirl, ComicBook/SquirrelGirl, though. That was written by SteveDitko! Creator/SteveDitko! That's so in continuity!
2nd Jan '16 2:35:42 PM mymemine
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** A lot of ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' fangirls who do not read the comics like to deny events from the ''Harley Quinn'' series and the official split-up of Harley and the Joker in ''Batman'' #663.
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** A lot of ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' fangirls who do not read the comics fans like to deny events from the ''Harley Quinn'' series comics and the official split-up of Harley and the Joker in ''Batman'' #663.
2nd Jan '16 1:42:02 PM nombretomado
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* ''SonicTheComic'' fans do this to comics that are just considered MindScrew's or otherwise poor. ''Amy's Secret Past'', which is extremely inconsistent with canon (and the "She's not naturally pink" thing pissed off some fans), and ''Bravehog'' (which is also extremely inconsistent and had horrible artwork) come to mind. There's also a select few fans who ignore the ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure'' arc, or at least [[spoiler:Johnny's death]]. ** There are also fans of the ''SonicTheComicOnline'' fanon continuation title who don't count Sonic's recent framing and status as a wanted fugitive hated and distrusted by most of his friends (except Tails), who all ought to know better by this point, having experianced situations before where Sonic was wrongfully blamed for things.
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* ''SonicTheComic'' ''ComicBook/SonicTheComic'' fans do this to comics that are just considered MindScrew's or otherwise poor. ''Amy's Secret Past'', which is extremely inconsistent with canon (and the "She's not naturally pink" thing pissed off some fans), and ''Bravehog'' (which is also extremely inconsistent and had horrible artwork) come to mind. There's also a select few fans who ignore the ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure'' arc, or at least [[spoiler:Johnny's death]]. ** There are also fans of the ''SonicTheComicOnline'' ''Webcomic/SonicTheComicOnline'' fanon continuation title who don't count Sonic's recent framing and status as a wanted fugitive hated and distrusted by most of his friends (except Tails), who all ought to know better by this point, having experianced situations before where Sonic was wrongfully blamed for things.
28th Dec '15 10:46:18 AM Anddrix
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* DrDoom has been through a number of {{Character Derailment}}s over the years, causing many fan rejections. Fortunately, the concept of the Doombot has already been introduced: Doom uses a lot of robots, some of which don't quite act right. This conveniently lets fans (and future writers who want to make an AuthorsSavingThrow) explain away any drastically inconsistent appearance of Doom as a Doombot:
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* DrDoom Doctor Doom has been through a number of {{Character Derailment}}s over the years, causing many fan rejections. Fortunately, the concept of the Doombot has already been introduced: Doom uses a lot of robots, some of which don't quite act right. This conveniently lets fans (and future writers who want to make an AuthorsSavingThrow) explain away any drastically inconsistent appearance of Doom as a Doombot:
27th Dec '15 3:11:51 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** [[{{Sidekick}} Captain Marvel Jr.]] was BroughtDownToNormal, then underwent TheHerosJourney in an attempt to make him [[TheCape the new Champion]] during the aforementioned ''Trials of Shazam''. The problem was the series itself was so poorly written that not even the excellent artwork could save it, making everyone doubt that this will be a true case of a SidekickGraduationsStick. To make matters worse, the idea of the series was to make Junior, now called Shazam, a hero that only dealt with magical problems. The creator actually said "Why is someone with the powers of the gods stopping robbers?" to which this troper can only reply [[DarthWiki/WallBanger "Because he's a HERO you idiot, and when a hero sees someone doing something evil, they DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT."]]
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** [[{{Sidekick}} Captain Marvel Jr.]] was BroughtDownToNormal, then underwent TheHerosJourney in an attempt to make him [[TheCape the new Champion]] during the aforementioned ''Trials of Shazam''. The problem was the series itself was so poorly written that not even the excellent artwork could save it, making everyone doubt that this will be a true case of a SidekickGraduationsStick. To make matters worse, the idea of the series was to make Junior, now called Shazam, a hero that only dealt with magical problems. The creator actually said "Why is someone with the powers of the gods stopping robbers?" to which this troper can only reply [[DarthWiki/WallBanger "Because he's a HERO you idiot, and when a hero sees someone doing something evil, they DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT."]] "
27th Dec '15 3:07:41 PM Berrenta
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* Bob Ingersoll notes that he believes ComicBook/TheQuestion [[http://www.worldfamouscomics.com/law/back20030225.shtml # 26 didn't happen]] with the well deserved reason of a hero letting someone guilty of "two counts of aggravated murder" free [[DarthWiki/WallBanger because it's Christmas]].
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* Bob Ingersoll notes that he believes ComicBook/TheQuestion [[http://www.worldfamouscomics.com/law/back20030225.shtml # 26 didn't happen]] with the well deserved reason of a hero letting someone guilty of "two counts of aggravated murder" free [[DarthWiki/WallBanger because it's Christmas]].Christmas.
27th Dec '15 2:42:06 PM SeptimusHeap
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* Wow... a lot of these are about the Bat Family, aren't they? Here's one more: Selina "ComicBook/{{Catwoman}}" Kyle's daughter, Helena. Born during the One Year Later gap, the writers initially dropped hint after hint that Helena was Batman's kid (the biggest being [[ContinuityNod her name]]: The pre-ComicBook/{{Crisis|on Infinite Earths}} Huntress was Helena Wayne). Then, as little Helena was turned into the kidnap magnet all children in the DCU seem to become (a DarthWiki/WallBanger itself), we find out that Helena's father was Sam Bradley Jr, [[RememberTheNewGuy newly-introduced son]] of supporting character Slam Bradley. The Bat-Fandom, by-and-large, rejected this reveal as the [[ExecutiveMeddling Editorially-mandated]] AssPull it was, and firmly believed that once little Helena is (inevitably) re-introduced (Selina gave her up for adoption for her own safety), Bruce Wayne will be revealed as her ''real'' father. Of course, along came [[CrisisCrossover Flashpoint]] to render [[CosmicRetcon the entire issue moot.]][[note]]Helena Wayne, daughter of Catwoman & Batman, does indeed exist in the New 52! However, she is from ''Earth-2'', not a baby, and is actually a revamp of the original pre-ComicBook/{{Crisis|on Infinite Earths}} Huntress[[/note]].
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* Wow... a lot of these are about the Bat Family, aren't they? Here's one more: Selina "ComicBook/{{Catwoman}}" Kyle's daughter, Helena. Born during the One Year Later gap, the writers initially dropped hint after hint that Helena was Batman's kid (the biggest being [[ContinuityNod her name]]: The pre-ComicBook/{{Crisis|on Infinite Earths}} Huntress was Helena Wayne). Then, as little Helena was turned into the kidnap magnet all children in the DCU seem to become (a DarthWiki/WallBanger itself), become, we find out that Helena's father was Sam Bradley Jr, [[RememberTheNewGuy newly-introduced son]] of supporting character Slam Bradley. The Bat-Fandom, by-and-large, rejected this reveal as the [[ExecutiveMeddling Editorially-mandated]] AssPull it was, and firmly believed that once little Helena is (inevitably) re-introduced (Selina gave her up for adoption for her own safety), Bruce Wayne will be revealed as her ''real'' father. Of course, along came [[CrisisCrossover Flashpoint]] to render [[CosmicRetcon the entire issue moot.]][[note]]Helena Wayne, daughter of Catwoman & Batman, does indeed exist in the New 52! However, she is from ''Earth-2'', not a baby, and is actually a revamp of the original pre-ComicBook/{{Crisis|on Infinite Earths}} Huntress[[/note]].
27th Dec '15 2:16:46 PM SeptimusHeap
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* Many, many fans of Batgirl III, [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl 2000}} Cassandra Cain]], wish that her FaceHeelTurn stint becomes retconned out of existence. Considering her massive CharacterDerailment [[WallBangers/ComicBooks was made by a writer]] that did no research on the character whatsoever, that is understandable. This has partially retconned by saying she was under the influence of drugs, but things like "Why does being on drugs teach you Navajo?" still stick out.
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* Many, many fans of Batgirl III, [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl 2000}} Cassandra Cain]], wish that her FaceHeelTurn stint becomes retconned out of existence. Considering her massive CharacterDerailment [[WallBangers/ComicBooks was made by a writer]] writer that did no research on the character whatsoever, that is understandable. This has partially retconned by saying she was under the influence of drugs, but things like "Why does being on drugs teach you Navajo?" still stick out.
25th Dec '15 6:02:09 PM Pinokio
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* ''[[ComicBook/SpiderWoman Spider-Woman: Origin]]'': The revised origin by Creator/BrianMichaelBendis is considered non-canon due to significantly altering details established in earlier stories, and for presenting Bova and the High Evolutionary as ordinary humans, when several stories depend on their established likeness being present.

* Many things from Chuck Austen's run on ''[[ComicBook/XMen Uncanny X-Men]]'' are worth denying. Many fans agree to dismiss the following: Nightcrawler's father is not an ancient demonic mutant, nor does Nightcrawler have hundreds of similar-looking half-siblings running around that no one ever noticed. The Church of Humanity did not try to turn Nightcrawler into the Pope and then kill people with exploding Communion Host. There are no parrot wolves ''[[DoomyDoomsOfDoom of doom]]''. Warren Worthington the Third CERTAINLY knows what businesses he owns and would never bang some jailbait in front of her mom. Havok never offered to reform Iceman's body by peeing or fell in love with his nurse in his dreams. Sam Guthrie's family was NEVER in a bad ''Theatre/RomeoAndJuliet'' ripoff facing rednecks with super-armor. She-Hulk did not fuck the Juggernaut. [[ComicBook/GenerationX Skin's]] tombstone didn't get his name wrong. There was no second Xorn. Mutants ''are not immune to AIDS'', and let us never speak of '''that''' again.
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* There was a Usenet meme: "[[Comicbook/XMen Jean Grey is dead on the moon]]." The theory was that Jean Grey being resurrected for ''Comicbook/{{X-Factor}}'', the {{retcon}}'s effect on the original "Dark Phoenix Saga", and the CharacterDerailment inflicted on Cyclops and his marriage was where the ''X-Men'' franchise [[JumpTheShark Jumped The Shark]]. ** Yet two wrongs don't make a right, and the Emma Frost thing doesn't sit too well with some fans either. ** Then again, Jean even dating Scott is FanonDiscontinuity for the Jean/Logan fans, so there seems to be a line where this goes too far and just makes for messy fanon. * ''ComicBook/XMan'': In ''X-Man #71-74'', Qabiri destroys five alternate Earths, causing all Earth designations to slide down a number. Either it was from Qabiri's perspective, or this "sliding down" effect never happened. Destroying an alternate Earth does not change the numbering of other Earths, and alternate Earths have not changed their designation since then. * Many things from Chuck Austen's run on ''[[ComicBook/XMen Uncanny X-Men]]'' are worth denying. Many fans agree to dismiss the following: Nightcrawler's father is not an ancient demonic mutant, nor does Nightcrawler have hundreds of similar-looking half-siblings running around that no one ever noticed. The Church of Humanity did not try to turn Nightcrawler into the Pope and then kill people with exploding Communion Host. There are no parrot wolves ''[[DoomyDoomsOfDoom of doom]]''. Warren Worthington the Third CERTAINLY knows what businesses he owns and would never bang some jailbait in front of her mom. Havok never offered to reform Iceman's body by peeing or fell in love with his nurse in his dreams. Sam Guthrie's family was NEVER in a bad ''Theatre/RomeoAndJuliet'' ripoff facing rednecks with super-armor. She-Hulk did not fuck the Juggernaut. [[ComicBook/GenerationX Skin's]] tombstone didn't get his name wrong. There was no second Xorn. Mutants ''are not immune to AIDS'', and let us never speak of '''that''' again.

* There was a Usenet meme: "[[Comicbook/XMen Jean Grey is dead on the moon]]." The theory was that Jean Grey being resurrected for ''Comicbook/{{X-Factor}}'', the {{retcon}}'s effect on the original "Dark Phoenix Saga", and the CharacterDerailment inflicted on Cyclops and his marriage was where the ''X-Men'' franchise [[JumpTheShark Jumped The Shark]]. ** Yet two wrongs don't make a right, and the Emma Frost thing doesn't sit too well with some fans either. ** Then again, Jean even dating Scott is FanonDiscontinuity for the Jean/Logan fans, so there seems to be a line where this goes too far and just makes for messy fanon.

* ''ComicBook/XMan'': In ''X-Man #71-74'', Qabiri destroys five alternate Earths, causing all Earth designations to slide down a number. Either it was from Qabiri's perspective, or this "sliding down" effect never happened. Destroying an alternate Earth does not change the numbering of other Earths, and alternate Earths have not changed their designation since then.
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