History DieForOurShip / Pokemon

9th Dec '16 1:33:31 AM Takeshi80
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*** However, the debates have resurfaced when Red and Blue appeared together in ORAS and even had ShipTease with each other, while Green and Yellow were nowhere to be found in said chapter (technically speaking, Green was in the simultaneously-running XY chapter, albeit it takes place much later in the timeline).
8th Dec '16 10:42:49 PM Ninplanet123
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* Lillie, Mallow, and Lana, Ash's new female friends in ''Sun and Moon'' have been starting to get this as of the beginning of the series by those who see them as potential obstacles for their OTP, particularly from [=AmourShippers=], but ''especially'' Lillie in no small part thanks to the immense popularity of her game counterpart.
30th Oct '16 8:54:13 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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** On a similar note, while the core [=AdvanceShipping=] (Ash/May) community is known for being rather tolerant with other ships, all tolerance tends to go right out the window when dealing with [=ContestShippers=] (May/[[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Drew]]). They tend to portray Drew as a lecherous young man who only wants one thing from May at best, while portraying him as a rapist/abuser at worst. Aside from the sheer absurdity of portraying [[WorthyOpponent a friendly rival]] that way, does anyone think a television show like Pokémon would explore issues like this?

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** On a similar note, while the core [=AdvanceShipping=] (Ash/May) community is known for being rather tolerant with other ships, all tolerance tends to go right out the window when dealing with [=ContestShippers=] (May/[[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Drew]]). They tend to portray Drew as a lecherous [[HandsomeLech lecherous]] young man who only wants one thing from May at best, while portraying him as a rapist/abuser at worst. Aside from the sheer absurdity of portraying [[WorthyOpponent a friendly rival]] that way, does anyone think a television show like Pokémon would explore issues like this?



* [=RocketShippers=] do have valid reasons for disliking Jessiebelle (her being a sadist and all), but some of the more extreme ones will portray her as trying to outright sabotage Jessie and James's True Love. One particular 'shipper also deemed one-episode character Doctor Proctor from "A Chansey Operation" a "horse's ass" for flirting with Jessie.

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* [=RocketShippers=] do have valid reasons for disliking Jessiebelle (her being a an abusive sadist and all), but some of the more extreme ones will portray her as trying to outright sabotage Jessie and James's True Love. One particular 'shipper also deemed one-episode character Doctor Proctor from "A Chansey Operation" a "horse's ass" for flirting with Jessie.
30th Oct '16 7:13:53 AM SaraJaye
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** [[spoiler: As of the last episode of the XY anime, Serena actually acted on her feelings for Ash and kissed him, resulting in a ''huge'' meltdown from Ash/other girl shippers who forget that Ash won't be seeing her again due to the Alola reboot and the unwritten rule of the anime that Ash will always be a CelibateHero.]]
17th Sep '16 1:06:38 PM technickal
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** On a similar note, [=AdvanceShippers=] (Ash/May) tend to portray [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Drew]] as a lecherous young man who only wants one thing from May at best, while portraying him as a rapist/abuser at worst. Aside from the sheer absurdity of portraying [[WorthyOpponent a friendly rival]] that way, does anyone think a television show like Pokémon would explore issues like this?

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** On a similar note, [=AdvanceShippers=] while the core [=AdvanceShipping=] (Ash/May) community is known for being rather tolerant with other ships, all tolerance tends to go right out the window when dealing with [=ContestShippers=] (May/[[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Drew]]). They tend to portray [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Drew]] Drew as a lecherous young man who only wants one thing from May at best, while portraying him as a rapist/abuser at worst. Aside from the sheer absurdity of portraying [[WorthyOpponent a friendly rival]] that way, does anyone think a television show like Pokémon would explore issues like this?



* While the core [=AdvanceShipping=] community is known for being rather tolerant with other ships, all tolerance tends to go right out the window when dealing with [=ContestShippers=].



* Calem/Serena ([=KalosShipping=]) fics [[{{Flanderization}} Flanderize]] Shauna's TheDitz trait, while Serena/Shauna ([=BrightTomorrowShipping=]) fics make Calem/Serena arrogant and their FriendlyRivalry with their counterpart a lot less friendly.

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* Calem/Serena ([=KalosShipping=]) fics [[{{Flanderization}} Flanderize]] Shauna's TheDitz trait, while Calem/Shauna and Serena/Shauna ([=BrightTomorrowShipping=]) ([=BrightTomorrowShipping=]/[=BoutiqueShipping=]) fics make Calem/Serena the rival Calem or Serena arrogant and their FriendlyRivalry with their counterpart a lot less friendly.
27th Jul '16 8:28:00 AM zeldafan128
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** On a similar note, [=AdvanceShippers=] (Ash/May) tend to portray [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Drew]] as a lecherous young man who only wants one thing from May. Aside from the sheer absurdity of portraying [[WorthyOpponent a friendly rival]] that way, does anyone think a television show like Pokémon would explore issues like this?

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** On a similar note, [=AdvanceShippers=] (Ash/May) tend to portray [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Drew]] as a lecherous young man who only wants one thing from May.May at best, while portraying him as a rapist/abuser at worst. Aside from the sheer absurdity of portraying [[WorthyOpponent a friendly rival]] that way, does anyone think a television show like Pokémon would explore issues like this?



* While the core [=AdvanceShipping=] community is known for being rather tolerant with other ships, all tolerance tends to go right out the window when dealing with [=ContestShippers=].



*** Most of the attacks against Serena devolve around to "She doesn't have a goal (false)", she's a shallow character/badly developed (opinions), and is just in the show for {{Fanservice}} (ignoring the fact their own female end of their OTP has been subject to fanservice)

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*** Most of the attacks against Serena devolve around to "She doesn't have a goal (false)", (false, though her goal wasn't developed until late in the first season)", she's a shallow character/badly developed (opinions), and is just in the show for {{Fanservice}} (ignoring the fact their own female end of their OTP has been subject to fanservice)



* As the most divisive of Ash's female travelling companions, Iris is always treated as the ButtMonkey by fans of the other girls. At best she's ignored.

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* As the most divisive of Ash's female travelling companions, Iris is always treated as the ButtMonkey by fans of the other girls. At best she's ignored.ignored, though attacks are not uncommon. The fact that [=NegaiShipping=] is easily the least-supported Ash x Female Lead ship does not help matters.
24th Apr '16 1:50:33 AM therealmewtwo
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* Due to the fact that she actually has feelings for Ash, most shippers have declared open season on Serena. It's worth noting with Serena that she is the first female companion to get actual ''intentional'' ShipTease from the writers. [[note]]A lot of Ash/Misty ShipTease was infamously the result of DubText added by 4Kids.[[/note]] The fact that this completely flies in the face of the series being known for NoHuggingNoKissing has resulted in Serena getting bashed on two fronts: from people who would rather for Ash to be with someone else and being accused of [[CharacterShilling favoritism from the writers.]]

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* Due to the fact that she actually has feelings for Ash, most shippers have declared open season on Serena. It's worth noting with Serena that she is the first female companion to get actual ''intentional'' ShipTease from the writers. [[note]]A lot of Ash/Misty ShipTease was infamously the result of DubText added by 4Kids.[[/note]] The fact that this these feelings completely flies fly in the face of the series being known for NoHuggingNoKissing has resulted in Serena getting bashed on two fronts: from people who would rather for Ash to be with someone else and being accused of [[CharacterShilling favoritism from the writers.]]
14th Mar '16 3:19:40 PM N8han11
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[[caption-width:350: Yeah, Misty was annoyed at her. But if you said that Melody deserved to die, she'd beat YOU up instead!]]

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Yeah, Misty was annoyed at her. But if you said that Melody deserved to die, she'd beat YOU up instead!]]
8th Mar '16 8:50:58 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* As the most divisive of Ash's female travelling companions, Iris is always treated as the ButtMonkey by the other girls. At best she's ignored.

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* As the most divisive of Ash's female travelling companions, Iris is always treated as the ButtMonkey by fans of the other girls. At best she's ignored.
28th Feb '16 6:41:12 AM narm00
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*** Interesting enough Gary tends to get the same treatment in a lot of Pokeshipping fics. The irony in all of it is Gary and Misty have had about [[ShipsThatPassInTheNight one conversation in the whole series]] so he's just used as a DesignatedVillain.

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*** Interesting Interestingly enough Gary tends to get the same treatment in a lot of Pokeshipping fics. The irony in all of it is Gary and Misty have had about [[ShipsThatPassInTheNight one conversation in the whole series]] so he's just used as a DesignatedVillain.



* The worst part is that there are barely any true canon pairings in the games, let alone ones involving the protagonists. N/Hilda is just as canon as N/Hilbert, which is just as canon as Hilbert/Hilda, and so forth. The Die For OurShip in game fics is solely there to either create a cheap conflict or to take a jab at rival ships, especially if said rival ship is [[ItsPopularNowItSucks popular]].

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* The worst part is that there are barely any true canon pairings in the games, let alone ones involving the protagonists. N/Hilda is just as canon as N/Hilbert, which is just as canon as Hilbert/Hilda, and so forth. The Die For OurShip Our Ship in game fics is solely there to either create a cheap conflict or to take a jab at rival ships, especially if said rival ship is [[ItsPopularNowItSucks popular]].
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