History DieForOurShip / Pokemon

27th Jul '16 8:28:00 AM zeldafan128
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** On a similar note, [=AdvanceShippers=] (Ash/May) tend to portray [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Drew]] as a lecherous young man who only wants one thing from May. Aside from the sheer absurdity of portraying [[WorthyOpponent a friendly rival]] that way, does anyone think a television show like Pokémon would explore issues like this?

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** On a similar note, [=AdvanceShippers=] (Ash/May) tend to portray [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Drew]] as a lecherous young man who only wants one thing from May.May at best, while portraying him as a rapist/abuser at worst. Aside from the sheer absurdity of portraying [[WorthyOpponent a friendly rival]] that way, does anyone think a television show like Pokémon would explore issues like this?



* While the core [=AdvanceShipping=] community is known for being rather tolerant with other ships, all tolerance tends to go right out the window when dealing with [=ContestShippers=].



*** Most of the attacks against Serena devolve around to "She doesn't have a goal (false)", she's a shallow character/badly developed (opinions), and is just in the show for {{Fanservice}} (ignoring the fact their own female end of their OTP has been subject to fanservice)

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*** Most of the attacks against Serena devolve around to "She doesn't have a goal (false)", (false, though her goal wasn't developed until late in the first season)", she's a shallow character/badly developed (opinions), and is just in the show for {{Fanservice}} (ignoring the fact their own female end of their OTP has been subject to fanservice)



* As the most divisive of Ash's female travelling companions, Iris is always treated as the ButtMonkey by fans of the other girls. At best she's ignored.

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* As the most divisive of Ash's female travelling companions, Iris is always treated as the ButtMonkey by fans of the other girls. At best she's ignored.ignored, though attacks are not uncommon. The fact that [=NegaiShipping=] is easily the least-supported Ash x Female Lead ship does not help matters.
24th Apr '16 1:50:33 AM therealmewtwo
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* Due to the fact that she actually has feelings for Ash, most shippers have declared open season on Serena. It's worth noting with Serena that she is the first female companion to get actual ''intentional'' ShipTease from the writers. [[note]]A lot of Ash/Misty ShipTease was infamously the result of DubText added by 4Kids.[[/note]] The fact that this completely flies in the face of the series being known for NoHuggingNoKissing has resulted in Serena getting bashed on two fronts: from people who would rather for Ash to be with someone else and being accused of [[CharacterShilling favoritism from the writers.]]

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* Due to the fact that she actually has feelings for Ash, most shippers have declared open season on Serena. It's worth noting with Serena that she is the first female companion to get actual ''intentional'' ShipTease from the writers. [[note]]A lot of Ash/Misty ShipTease was infamously the result of DubText added by 4Kids.[[/note]] The fact that this these feelings completely flies fly in the face of the series being known for NoHuggingNoKissing has resulted in Serena getting bashed on two fronts: from people who would rather for Ash to be with someone else and being accused of [[CharacterShilling favoritism from the writers.]]
14th Mar '16 3:19:40 PM N8han11
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[[caption-width:350: Yeah, Misty was annoyed at her. But if you said that Melody deserved to die, she'd beat YOU up instead!]]

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8th Mar '16 8:50:58 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* As the most divisive of Ash's female travelling companions, Iris is always treated as the ButtMonkey by the other girls. At best she's ignored.

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* As the most divisive of Ash's female travelling companions, Iris is always treated as the ButtMonkey by fans of the other girls. At best she's ignored.
28th Feb '16 6:41:12 AM narm00
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*** Interesting enough Gary tends to get the same treatment in a lot of Pokeshipping fics. The irony in all of it is Gary and Misty have had about [[ShipsThatPassInTheNight one conversation in the whole series]] so he's just used as a DesignatedVillain.

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*** Interesting Interestingly enough Gary tends to get the same treatment in a lot of Pokeshipping fics. The irony in all of it is Gary and Misty have had about [[ShipsThatPassInTheNight one conversation in the whole series]] so he's just used as a DesignatedVillain.



* The worst part is that there are barely any true canon pairings in the games, let alone ones involving the protagonists. N/Hilda is just as canon as N/Hilbert, which is just as canon as Hilbert/Hilda, and so forth. The Die For OurShip in game fics is solely there to either create a cheap conflict or to take a jab at rival ships, especially if said rival ship is [[ItsPopularNowItSucks popular]].

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* The worst part is that there are barely any true canon pairings in the games, let alone ones involving the protagonists. N/Hilda is just as canon as N/Hilbert, which is just as canon as Hilbert/Hilda, and so forth. The Die For OurShip Our Ship in game fics is solely there to either create a cheap conflict or to take a jab at rival ships, especially if said rival ship is [[ItsPopularNowItSucks popular]].
20th Jan '16 12:00:22 AM Pichu-kun
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* Some Pikachu/Ash fans have been known to exaggerate Chikorita's ClingyJealousGirl qualities.



* ''Manga/PokemonSpecial'' has had a particularly brutal war surrounding the Kanto characters. The main ships were Red/Blue, Red/Yellow, Red/Misty, Blue/Green, Blue/Silver, Green/Yellow and Lance/Yellow. The opposing characters typically get [[{{Flanderization}} Flanderized]]; for example Blue's, Green's, and Silver's [[RonTheDeathEater get made into abusive]] [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkasses]] and Red goes back into an IdiotHero or his ObliviousToLove trait is amplified. Most communities have however pretty much settled on Red/Yellow and Blue/Green.

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* ''Manga/PokemonSpecial'' ''Manga/PokemonAdventures'':
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has had a particularly brutal war surrounding the Kanto characters. The main ships were Red/Blue, Red/Yellow, Red/Misty, Blue/Green, Blue/Silver, Green/Yellow and Lance/Yellow. The opposing characters typically get [[{{Flanderization}} Flanderized]]; for example Blue's, Green's, and Silver's [[RonTheDeathEater get made into abusive]] [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkasses]] and Red goes back into an IdiotHero or his ObliviousToLove trait is amplified. Most communities have however pretty much settled on Red/Yellow and Blue/Green.
19th Dec '15 12:40:24 AM Shadao
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19th Dec '15 12:39:07 AM Shadao
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19th Dec '15 12:38:16 AM Shadao
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19th Nov '15 9:25:29 PM MayIncon
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** A similar flanderization applies to Ruby and Sapphire. Sapphire is portrayed as a sharp-teethed abusive jerkass who torments Ruby for their tragic past while Ruby is frequently portrayed as the ExtremeDoormat who believes that he deserves all the shit that come to him.

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** A similar flanderization applies to Ruby and Sapphire. Sapphire for those who think their antagonistic levels of incompatibility contradicts their supposedly couple status. Sapphire is portrayed as a sharp-teethed abusive jerkass who torments constantly bites the hell out of Ruby for their [[NiceJobBreakingItHero causing that tragic past past]] while Ruby is frequently portrayed as the [[AdaptationalWimp wimpy]] ExtremeDoormat who believes that he deserves all the shit that come to him.
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