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10th Apr '18 3:36:08 PM nurikokairu
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** Yubel is frequently bashed and vilified far beyond her actual canon obsessions when it comes to Juudai x Asuka fics. Oddly enough, she doesn't usually get that treatment in Juudai x Johan ones, and it's canon that she's jealous of Johan for having (supposedly) stolen Juudai's love from her.

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** Yubel [[{{Hermaphrodite}} Yubel]] is frequently bashed and vilified far beyond her [[AmbiguousGender their]] actual canon obsessions when it comes to Juudai x Asuka fics. Oddly enough, she doesn't they don't usually get that treatment in Juudai x Johan ones, and it's canon that she's they are jealous of Johan for having (supposedly) stolen Juudai's love from her.them.
6th Apr '18 8:39:55 AM zephyran
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* Nachi from ''Mugen Densetsu Takamagahara Dream Saga'' has a bit of this; she's also {{transsexual}}, and therefore has [[AcceptableLifestyleTargets more fuel]] for jokes at her expense.

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* Nachi from ''Mugen Densetsu Takamagahara Dream Saga'' has a bit of this; she's also {{transsexual}}, {{transgender}}, and therefore has [[AcceptableLifestyleTargets more fuel]] for jokes at her expense.
10th Mar '18 12:45:19 PM nombretomado
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* A minor example in the ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' fandom: Frequenters of the [=AnimeSuki=] forum would've known the infamous 300 YU-NANO AGAINST LEGION OF FEI-NANO FlameWar. And no, we're not talking about some [[ThreeHundred smelly old men]]. This FlameWar was mostly fueled by irritation that Yuuno was used as a plot device and not a character -- an 'out' for the writers in case they got too scared of Nanoha/Fate. TheThemeParkVersion of this irritation is Yuuno Hate (at least from the Legion). But PoesLaw and {{GIFT}} means there are people who will take it seriously or claim total seriousness.

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* A minor example in the ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' fandom: Frequenters of the [=AnimeSuki=] forum would've known the infamous 300 YU-NANO AGAINST LEGION OF FEI-NANO FlameWar. And no, we're not talking about some [[ThreeHundred [[Film/ThreeHundred smelly old men]]. This FlameWar was mostly fueled by irritation that Yuuno was used as a plot device and not a character -- an 'out' for the writers in case they got too scared of Nanoha/Fate. TheThemeParkVersion of this irritation is Yuuno Hate (at least from the Legion). But PoesLaw and {{GIFT}} means there are people who will take it seriously or claim total seriousness.
28th Feb '18 12:04:34 AM yin_13147
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* The ''Manga/{{Devilman}}'' fandom has always had one or another discussion about the nature of Akira's feelings for Ryo and Miki, but the newest adaptation ''Anime/DevilmanCrybaby'' has brought them to the internet surface. Akira/Ryo shippers tend to sweep Miki's importance to Akira and his feelings for her under the carpet, whereas Akira/Miki fans reduce Ryo to a DepravedHomosexual [[AntiHero when he's far]] [[TheReveal more complex than that.]]

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* The ''Manga/{{Devilman}}'' fandom has always had one or another discussion about the nature of Akira's feelings for Ryo and Miki, but the newest adaptation ''Anime/DevilmanCrybaby'' has brought them to the internet surface. Akira/Ryo shippers tend to sweep Miki's importance to Akira and his feelings for her under the carpet, whereas Akira/Miki fans reduce Ryo to a DepravedHomosexual [[AntiHero when he's far]] [[TheReveal far more complex than that.]]
30th Jan '18 12:25:23 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* ''Manga/SakamichiNoApollon'' gets this a lot. Because how ''dare'' Ritsuko be a cute girl and catch Kaoru's romantic attentions when, according to some {{yaoi fangirl}}s, there's only HoYay making out with Sentarou to be done!

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* ''Manga/SakamichiNoApollon'' ''Manga/KidsOnTheSlope'' gets this a lot. Because how ''dare'' Ritsuko be a cute girl and catch Kaoru's romantic attentions when, according to some {{yaoi fangirl}}s, there's only HoYay making out with Sentarou to be done!
13th Jan '18 7:45:38 AM GlitteringFlowers
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* The ''Manga/{{Devilman}}'' fandom has always had one or another discussion about the nature of Akira's feelings for Ryo and Miki, but the newest adaptation ''Anime/DevilmanCrybaby'' has brought them to the internet surface. Akira/Ryo shippers tend to sweep Miki's importance to Akira and his feelings for her under the carpet, whereas Akira/Miki fans reduce Ryo to a DepravedHomosexual [[AntiHero when he's far]] more complex than that.]]

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* The ''Manga/{{Devilman}}'' fandom has always had one or another discussion about the nature of Akira's feelings for Ryo and Miki, but the newest adaptation ''Anime/DevilmanCrybaby'' has brought them to the internet surface. Akira/Ryo shippers tend to sweep Miki's importance to Akira and his feelings for her under the carpet, whereas Akira/Miki fans reduce Ryo to a DepravedHomosexual [[AntiHero when he's far]] [[TheReveal more complex than that.]]
13th Jan '18 7:27:57 AM GlitteringFlowers
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** Chiaki gets off easy compared to Munakata, Chisa and Juzo. Whichever one isn't shipped with the other two will more often than not have every single flaw played up, to the point one would think Munakata is a selfish and power-hungry dictator instead of a WellIntentionedExtremist, Chisa a harpy and a {{Yandere}} who exists solely for Munakata instead of TheHeart [[spoiler: or a ManipulativeBitch who's been stringing him along from the start thanks to her Despair brainwashing]], and Juzo a bloodthirsty brute who (guess what) only lusts after Chisa and/or Munakata instead of a hot-headed and gruff but loyal man. This is despite the three of them canonically being very close (to the point that some fans [[OneTrueThreesome think of something else altogether]]) and Juzo [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy putting Munakata and Chisa's happiness before his own]].

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** Chiaki gets off easy compared to Munakata, Chisa and Juzo. Whichever one isn't shipped with the other two will more often than not have every single flaw played up, to the point one would think Munakata is a selfish and power-hungry dictator instead of a WellIntentionedExtremist, Chisa a harpy and a {{Yandere}} who exists solely for Munakata instead of TheHeart [[spoiler: or a ManipulativeBitch who's been stringing him along from the start thanks to her Despair brainwashing]], and Juzo a bloodthirsty brute who (guess what) only lusts after Chisa and/or Munakata instead of a hot-headed and gruff but loyal man. This is despite the three of them canonically being very close (to the point that some fans [[OneTrueThreesome think of something else altogether]]) altogether]]), the three of them being caught in horrifyingly hard situations ([[spoiler: with fatal consequences for Chisa and Juzo]]), and Juzo [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy putting Munakata Chisa and Chisa's Munakata's shared happiness before his own]].


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* The ''Manga/{{Devilman}}'' fandom has always had one or another discussion about the nature of Akira's feelings for Ryo and Miki, but the newest adaptation ''Anime/DevilmanCrybaby'' has brought them to the internet surface. Akira/Ryo shippers tend to sweep Miki's importance to Akira and his feelings for her under the carpet, whereas Akira/Miki fans reduce Ryo to a DepravedHomosexual [[AntiHero when he's far]] more complex than that.]]
11th Jan '18 11:46:50 AM kazokuhouou
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* Speaking of ''Anime/MaiOtome'', many shippers of the [[BetaCouple Akane/Kazuya pairing]] (yes, they exist) would like nothing better than [[DarkSkinnedBlond Mahya]] falling down the stairs and breaking a leg or something, for the annoying "crime" of [[MomentKiller interrupting any romantic moment between the two]] and generally acting like Garderobe's "romance police". Mahya is not a romantic rival, to be sure, but she still ''does'' get in the way of the pairing. In Mahya's defense, Akane retaining her virginity and therefore her Otome powers is what's keeping her from charges of desertion, but she didn't have to take so much ''glee'' in cockblocking.

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* Speaking of ''Anime/MaiOtome'', many shippers of the [[BetaCouple Akane/Kazuya pairing]] (yes, they exist) would like nothing better than [[DarkSkinnedBlond Mahya]] falling down the stairs and breaking a leg or something, for the annoying "crime" of [[MomentKiller interrupting any romantic moment between the two]] and generally acting like Garderobe's "romance police". Mahya is not a romantic rival, to be sure, but she still ''does'' get in the way of the pairing. In Mahya's defense, Akane retaining her virginity and therefore her Otome powers is what's keeping her from charges of desertion, but she Mahya didn't have to take so much ''glee'' in cockblocking.
4th Jan '18 3:20:13 PM kazokuhouou
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* Speaking of ''Anime/MaiOtome'', many shippers of the [[BetaCouple Akane/Kazuya pairing]] (yes, they exist) would like nothing better than [[DarkSkinnedBlond Mahya]] falling down the stairs and breaking a leg or something, for the annoying "crime" of [[MomentKiller interrupting any romantic moment between the two]] and generally acting like Garderobe's "romance police". Mahya is not a romantic rival, to be sure, but she still ''does'' get in the way of the pairing.

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* Speaking of ''Anime/MaiOtome'', many shippers of the [[BetaCouple Akane/Kazuya pairing]] (yes, they exist) would like nothing better than [[DarkSkinnedBlond Mahya]] falling down the stairs and breaking a leg or something, for the annoying "crime" of [[MomentKiller interrupting any romantic moment between the two]] and generally acting like Garderobe's "romance police". Mahya is not a romantic rival, to be sure, but she still ''does'' get in the way of the pairing. In Mahya's defense, Akane retaining her virginity and therefore her Otome powers is what's keeping her from charges of desertion, but she didn't have to take so much ''glee'' in cockblocking.
10th Dec '17 4:05:38 PM harostar
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** As of chapter 124 and 125 of ''TG: re'', [[spoiler: Touka and Kaneki]] [[KissingDiscretionShot not only have shared a kiss]]... [[spoiler: but actually had TheirFirstTime, [[AManIsNotAVirgin with Kaneki clearly being a virgin before that]].]] The fandom had a meltdown, with [[spoiler: Kaneki]]/others fans throwing childish tantrums and bashing [[spoiler: Touka]] for daring to make a move on a LauncherOfAThousandShips like him, specially [[spoiler: Hide/Kaneki]] fans that pretty much think of her a "traitor".

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** As The aftermath of chapter 124 and Chapter 125 of ''TG: re'', [[spoiler: Touka and Kaneki]] [[KissingDiscretionShot not only have shared a kiss]]... [[spoiler: but actually had TheirFirstTime, [[AManIsNotAVirgin with making Kaneki clearly being and Touka an OfficialCouple was a virgin before that]].]] The fandom had a meltdown, full-blown FlameWar, which escalated with [[spoiler: Kaneki]]/others fans throwing childish tantrums a pregnancy and bashing subsequent ShotgunWedding]]. Fans of Kaneki/Hide in particular characterized her as a DomesticAbuser, with some going so far as to ''accuse her of rape'' or hoping that [[spoiler: Touka]] for daring she miscarries]]. One infamous case escalated to make a move on a LauncherOfAThousandShips like him, specially publicly posting graphic fanart of Touka [[spoiler: Hide/Kaneki]] fans that pretty much think of her a "traitor".miscarrying]] and hoping it would become canon.
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