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16th Oct '17 9:27:08 PM Midna
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14th Oct '17 4:27:20 AM MelancholyUtopia
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*** Tropers/MelancholyUtopia: In the same game, mine was one that boiled my blood to fever level of celsius. I don't exactly remember which episode, but it was when you played as Apollo in Khurain, and he speaks to Emma. He then has the gall to say religion and science are complete opposites... for motherf*ck's sake! No! They are not! Have you never read up on history, Goddammit?! You're a f*cking lawyer, for crying out loud! The Christian church was the sole supporter of science in medieval times. Heck, many famous scientists, like Albert freaking Einstein and Isaac freaking Newton had religious faith themselves! The only religion we've seen in the game is the Khurainese religion which only relies on supernatural forces in their practices. Then say that the Khurainese religion and science are complete opposites, not religion as a whole! This is coming from a spiritual person who's uncomfortable with supernatural subjects and generally only stick to science to find research on how it lines up with her faith (for those wondering, I play the games for the crime-solving, not the occultism. In fact, it really annoys me how much of it there is in the games). And why did Apollo have to say it?! I love the guy, he's one of my favorite characters in the franchise. If a bad guy said it, it would've been fine. This installment was without a doubt the worst game in the whole series, for portraying religious people as nutjobs disregarding scientific measures. Sorry, Capcom, but you win my contempt this time around.


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** Tropers/MelancholyUtopia: In Spirit of Justice, my DMoS was one that boiled my blood to fever level of celsius. I don't exactly remember which episode, but it was when you played as Apollo in Khurain, and he speaks to Emma. He then has the gall to say religion and science are complete opposites... for motherf*ck's sake! No! They are not! Have you never read up on history, Goddammit?! You're a f*cking lawyer, for crying out loud! The Christian church was the sole supporter of science in medieval times. Heck, many famous scientists, like Albert freaking Einstein and Isaac freaking Newton had religious faith themselves! The only religion we've seen in the game is the Khurainese religion which only relies on supernatural forces in their practices. Then say that the Khurainese religion and science are complete opposites, not religion as a whole! This is coming from a spiritual person who's uncomfortable with supernatural subjects and generally only stick to science to find research on how it lines up with her faith (for those wondering, I play the games for the crime-solving, not the occultism. In fact, it really annoys me how much of it there is in the games). And why did Apollo have to say it?! I love the guy, he's one of my favorite characters in the franchise. If a bad guy said it, it would've been fine. This installment was without a doubt the worst game in the whole series, for portraying religious people as nutjobs disregarding scientific measures. Sorry, Capcom, but you win my contempt this time around.
14th Oct '17 4:24:55 AM MelancholyUtopia
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** MelancholyUtopia: I immensely love the series; never has puzzle-solving been so much fun. But I cannot simply ignore how utterly stupid the reveal was in ''VideoGame/ProfessorLaytonAndTheAzranLegacy'' with Layton holding the IdiotBall, and it will never cease to piss me off. [[spoiler: Descole is Layton's brother separated from him at a young age due to adoption, and Leon Bronev is his biological father.]] Boy, where do we begin? [[spoiler: First of all, there was absolutely zero build-up to the reveal. It was never even foreshadowed that this was the case, and if there was, it was done with such subtlety it would put the AssPull of ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' to shame. At least with Don Paolo, Layton figured out halfway through that he was an old classmate of his, but Descole needed to tell him straight to his face how he knew him. Another thing about this reveal is that Layton doesn't even remember him, which could have been easily forgiven if Layton was a newborn baby with poor memory span (come to think of it, why didn't Level-5 make it so?!), but that's the thing; he wasn't! He was around 5-7 years old, at that point, how could you have completely forgotten you have a brother?! To add insult to injury, Layton is supposed to be an intellectual who acknowledges small details that go unnoticed by most, but he forgets something as crucial as that. Another thing was how utterly poorly Emmy's betrayal was executed. Her reason? "Uncle Leon is all I have left in this world"... nothing more, nothing less. What the hell? I expected a flashback or such of Leon taking her in so we'll know how, but there's absolutely nothing explored on this matter. The only thing I really liked about the ending was that Layton told Leon to piss off (in his kind manner, but still) because he selfishly gave them up for adoption for his archeological research due to a promise to his dead wife.]] Unfortunately, this isn't enough for me to make up for the piss poor conclusion of an otherwise great gaming series.

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** MelancholyUtopia: I immensely love the series; never has puzzle-solving been so much fun. But I cannot simply ignore how utterly stupid the reveal was in ''VideoGame/ProfessorLaytonAndTheAzranLegacy'' with Layton holding the IdiotBall, and it will never cease to piss me off. [[spoiler: Descole is Layton's brother separated from him at a young age due to adoption, and Leon Bronev is his biological father.]] Boy, where do we begin? [[spoiler: First of all, there was absolutely zero build-up to the reveal. It was never even foreshadowed that this was the case, and if there was, it was done with such subtlety it would put the AssPull of ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' to shame. At least with Don Paolo, Layton figured out halfway through that he was an old classmate of his, but Descole needed to tell him straight to his face how he knew him. Another thing about this reveal is that Layton doesn't even remember him, which could have been easily forgiven if Layton was had been a newborn baby with poor memory span at the time (come to think of it, why didn't Level-5 make it so?!), but that's the thing; he wasn't! He was around 5-7 years old, at that point, how could you have completely forgotten you have a brother?! To add insult to injury, Layton is supposed to be an intellectual who acknowledges small details that go unnoticed by most, but he forgets something as crucial as that. Another thing was how utterly poorly Emmy's betrayal was executed. Her reason? "Uncle Leon is all I have left in this world"... nothing more, nothing less. What the hell? I expected a flashback or such of Leon taking her in so we'll know how, but there's absolutely nothing explored on this matter. The only thing I really liked about the ending was that Layton told Leon to piss off (in his kind manner, but still) because he selfishly gave them up for adoption for his archeological research due to a promise to his dead wife.]] Unfortunately, this isn't enough for me to make up for the piss poor conclusion of an otherwise great gaming series.



*** Tropers/MelancholyUtopia: In the same game, mine was one that boiled my blood to fever level of celsius. I don't exactly remember which episode, but it was when you played as Apollo in Khurain, and he speaks to Emma. He then has the gall to say religion and science are complete opposites... for motherf*ck's sake! No! They are not! Have you never read up on history, Goddammit?! You're a f*cking lawyer, for crying out loud! The Christian church was the sole supporter of science in medieval times. Heck, many famous scientists, like Albert freaking Einstein and Isaac freaking Newton had religious faith themselves! The only religion we've seen in the game is the Khurainese religion which only relies on supernatural forces in their practices. Then say that the Khurainese religion and science are complete opposites, not religion as a whole! This is coming from a spiritual person who's uncomfortable with supernatural subjects and generally only stick to science to find research on how it lines up with her faith (for those wondering, I play the games for the crime-solving, not the occultism. In fact, it really annoys me how much of it there is in the games). And why did Apollo have to say it?! I love the guy, he's one of my favorite characters in the franchise. If a bad guy said it, it would've been fine. In fact, this installment was without a doubt the worst game in the whole series, for portraying religious people as nutjobs disregarding scientific measures. Sorry, Capcom, but you win my contempt this time around.

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*** Tropers/MelancholyUtopia: In the same game, mine was one that boiled my blood to fever level of celsius. I don't exactly remember which episode, but it was when you played as Apollo in Khurain, and he speaks to Emma. He then has the gall to say religion and science are complete opposites... for motherf*ck's sake! No! They are not! Have you never read up on history, Goddammit?! You're a f*cking lawyer, for crying out loud! The Christian church was the sole supporter of science in medieval times. Heck, many famous scientists, like Albert freaking Einstein and Isaac freaking Newton had religious faith themselves! The only religion we've seen in the game is the Khurainese religion which only relies on supernatural forces in their practices. Then say that the Khurainese religion and science are complete opposites, not religion as a whole! This is coming from a spiritual person who's uncomfortable with supernatural subjects and generally only stick to science to find research on how it lines up with her faith (for those wondering, I play the games for the crime-solving, not the occultism. In fact, it really annoys me how much of it there is in the games). And why did Apollo have to say it?! I love the guy, he's one of my favorite characters in the franchise. If a bad guy said it, it would've been fine. In fact, this This installment was without a doubt the worst game in the whole series, for portraying religious people as nutjobs disregarding scientific measures. Sorry, Capcom, but you win my contempt this time around.
14th Oct '17 4:17:19 AM MelancholyUtopia
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*** Tropers/MelancholyUtopia: In the same game, mine was one that boiled my blood to fever level of celsius. I don't exactly remember which episode, but it was when you played as Apollo in Khurain, and he speaks to Emma. He then has the gall to say religion and science are complete opposites... for motherf*ck's sake! No! They are not! Have you never read up on history, Goddammit?! You're a f*cking lawyer, for crying out loud! The Christian church was the sole supporter of science in medieval times. Heck, many famous scientists, like Albert freaking Einstein and Isaac freaking Newton had religious faith themselves! The only religion we've seen in the game is the Khurainese religion which only relies on supernatural forces in their practices. Then say that the Khurainese religion and science are complete opposites, not religion as a whole! This is coming from a spiritual person who's uncomfortable with supernatural subjects and generally only stick to science to find research on how it lines up with her faith (for those wondering, I play the games for the crime-solving, not the occultism. In fact, it really annoys me how much of it there is in the games). And why did Apollo have to say it?! I love the guy, he's one of my favorite characters in the franchise. If a bad guy said it, it would've been fine. In fact, this installment was without a doubt the worst game in the whole series, for portraying religious people as nutjobs disregarding scientific measures. Sorry, Capcom, but you win my contempt this time around.
13th Oct '17 12:22:29 AM Midna
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Midna: So I just beat ''VideoGame/Splatoon2'', and man am I pumped! The final boss wasn't as long or as hard as the last game's, true, but it made up for that with its emotional intensity. I'm so glad I was able to save Callie! You know, I love both of the Squid Sisters, but I've always preferred her. And now that the game is clear, I can return to Octo Canyon and finally see them hanging out with each other again! (Cal is gonna look so cute in a kimono!)\\

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* Midna: So I just beat ''VideoGame/Splatoon2'', and man am I pumped! The final boss wasn't as long or as hard as the last game's, true, but it made up for that with its emotional intensity. I'm so glad I was able to save Callie! You know, I love both of the Squid Sisters, but I've always preferred her. And now that the game is clear, I can return to Octo Canyon and finally see them hanging out with each other again! (Cal is gonna look so cute in a kimono!)\\
13th Oct '17 12:18:33 AM Midna
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Midna: So I just beat ''VideoGame/Splatoon2'', and man am I pumped! The final boss wasn't as long or as hard as the last game's, true, but it made up for that with its emotional intensity. I'm so glad I was able to save Callie! You know, I love both of the Squid Sisters, but I've always preferred her. And now that the game is clear, I can return to Octo Canyon and finally see them hanging out with each other again! (Cal is gonna look so cute in a kimono!)\\
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...Oh. Um. Hi, Marie. You're on your own still. Where's your cousin? You know... the person you spent literally the entire single-player campaign looking for? The girl you practically drove yourself sick with worry over? You mean to tell me you left her alone right after saving her? Really? ...yes, I see DJ Octavio is in the snowglobe again, but where's Callie? ...No, no, don't just tell me she's safe and sound. I need physical proof! Show don't tell, dangit!\\
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Sigh. Fine. I guess if I have to I'll go back to the final boss battle to make sure Callie is safe. Ah! Yep! There she is! ...wait, why is she wearing the Hypnogoggles again? What's this about "re-remixing her brain?" ...Oh, I see. As a result of the final Splatfest in the last game, the ''Splatoon'' team decided Callie has literally no fans ever, so no one will mind if she's nearly completely absent from the sequel, gets smacked in the face with the IdiotBall a few times, and doesn't even hang out with her family after saving her, even though Cap'n Cuttlefish was perfectly able to relax in Octo Valley and be held captive by the DJ at the same time in the last game. Nope, everyone even vaguely aware of this series likes Marie and Marie alone, therefore we have every right to pander to Marie fans exclusively. Who cares if it's an utter slap in the face to people who even slightly like Callie? It's all really a downer after such an amazing final battle, to be honest. What a blemish on an otherwise fantastic game. [=#BringCallieBack=]


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13th Oct '17 12:11:03 AM Midna
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9th Oct '17 11:42:21 PM DocSharp
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* Tropers/DocSharp: The [[ThatOneBoss Bed of Chaos boss fight]] from ''[[VideoGame/DarkSouls Dark Souls]]''. It's a platforming-based PuzzleBoss in a game that doesn't lend itself well to any of those aspects, especially given the convenient bottomless pits that show up midway into the fight coupled with nigh-undodgeable attacks. It's rage-inducing, not creative, and basically something that just shouldn't be in the game, and I dread having to deal with it any time I replay an otherwise wonderful game.
6th Oct '17 11:57:26 AM LucaEarlgrey
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* Tropers/LucaEarlgrey: Not long after ''VideoGame/SeventhDragon III: code VFD'' starts, Nodens is under attack by dragons. Okay, so Unit 13 barely manages to kill a lesser dragon, and the next they see is Spectus, a High Dragon that Nagamimi stresses is too powerful for Unit 13 in their current state to fight. Unit 13 [[LeeroyJenkins insists on charging at the dragon]], and just to rub salt in the wound both dialogue choices amount to the same answer: "We gotta stop this dragon and save people!" As a result, [[HopelessBossFight Spectus beats the whole group to near-death]], and Nagamimi [[BlamingTheRailroadedPlayerCharacter chews out Unit 13 for their stupidity despite there being no dialogue option to wisely retreat]]. Like geez, sorry the game didn't let me say "Yeah, saving civilians is important but you're right, we should retreat for now instead of committing a StupidSacrifice."
1st Oct '17 12:22:39 PM Uttergenius
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* Uttergenius: ''VideoGame/FreedomPlanet'' is a great game with fun gameplay, awesome music, and a good story, but there is one moment that infuriates me to no end. But first, let me establish some context (warning: unmarked spoilers): Many years before the events of the game, dragons came to Avalice from outer space, imbued their wisdom to the people of Avalice, and interbred with them. However, they couldn't get back to their home planet; so they also formed the Kingdom Stone to provide the planet with immense energy as a selfless gesture. Fast forward to the game itself, and [[BigBad Lord Brevon]] crash lands on Avalice and manipulates the three kingdoms to obtain the Stone to power his own ship. Meanwhile, Torque has been tracking down Brevon for the Chasers to prevent him from getting it because he swore to his captain on his dying breath that he would not let Brevon get the Stone and become an unstoppable intergalactic dictator. Lilac and Carol set out to get the Stone back after Torque fills them in on Brevon's plans. Midway through Lilac's playthrough, she learns of the true significance of the Kingdom Stone and that she's [[LastOfHisKind the last descendant of the ancient dragons]]. Now, she's more determined than ever to retrieve the Kingdom Stone to stop Brevon, restore balance to her planet, and uphold her legacy. OK, the story so far is really good and has me invested. Well, now we come to the [=DMoS=] that effectively ruins the entire game's story. At the end of Final Dreadnaught 3, Lilac finds where the Kingdom Stone is powering the Dreadnaught and inserts a chip provided by Torque into the computer that shuts everything down so she can retrieve the Stone. Then Lord Brevon appears behind her with [[TagalongKid Milla]] in one hand and [[KnifeNut his knife]] in the other. It's clear what he wants: [[HostageForMcGuffin leave the Stone alone or Milla dies]]. At this point, Lilac has only known Milla for a few days. So she has no reason to endanger the lives of billions, including her own planet (it's implied that Avalice would be conquered by Brevon, or at least caught in the crossfire, if he kept the Stone) just to protect her friend. [[TemptingFate Surely she would honor her duty and her legacy.]] What does Lilac actually do? She takes out the chip, sets it near Brevon's feet, and watches as he crushes it. Let me repeat that: [[WhatAnIdiot Lilac is willing to screw over countless worlds and betray the best wishes of her ancestors, the Magister, and Torque,]] [[SkewedPriorities to save a random puppy she hasn't even known a week!]] [[FromBadToWorse And it gets worse]]. After Lilac is forced to fight her, she thinks she's dead, cries, and storms off to find Brevon. And here's the sad part: the dialogue before, during, and after the fight with Brevon makes it pretty clear that Milla is all that's on Lilac's mind. That's right: Milla somehow became the most important thing in the world to Lilac. Not the Kingdom Stone, not her heritage, not even the countless people she turned her back on, but a child she barely knows! The entire game had been establishing Lilac as someone who realizes the importance of the Stone, [[CharacterDerailment but the Lilac who made that irredeemably stupid decision seems like an entirely different character]]. The majority of the game is very well-written, but the ending feels ripped from a bad fanfic. It's also a massive insult to the player as he had every right to believe that the Kingdom Stone is the end goal; then he gets to the Stone [[CutsceneIncompetence and can't influence Lilac's actions in the slightest]]; so he feels robbed. I can't even watch that cutscene; it's just too painful. It's also the scene the cemented Milla as my [[TheScrappy scrappy]] for this game as well as one of my most hated characters ever. Seriously, I can't stand that [[StealthPun bitch]]. Fortunately, there is a HopeSpot: the events of [[VideoGame/FreedomPlanet2 the upcoming sequel]] seem to be a direct consequence of Lilac's IdiotBall; so I'm hoping and praying there will be an AuthorsSavingThrow, because an action that indefensible (especially since she doesn't seem to [[WhatHaveIDone regret it]] or [[WhatTheHellHero get called out on it]]) should not be allowed to go unresolved. I still love this game, but... ugh. [[DarthWiki/DethroningMomentOfSuck That. One. Cutscene]].
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