* Tropers/{{Sahgo}}: ''VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss'', I love you, but I'll never forgive how Anise's betrayal subplot was handled. Let's count the ways; 1) It all begins when Anise was being a spy for [[CompleteMonster Mohs]] for the sake of her parents. A little retarded (since she should know that the party is more than strong enough to take matters into their own hands), but understandable, since she's just a kid, and a desperate one at that. But it all goes to hell when she's asked to bring Ion to Mohs. She knew that he would get rid of him as soon as he read the Score, and she supposedly freakin' loves him! And yet she carries him to his death. 2) After the party kills Mohs for that, they feel sorry for him. Namdai, you're trying to make us feel sorry for [[CompleteMonster Mohs]], that's easier said than done (actually, scratch that; it's not even easy said). 3) After the whole thing, [[KarmaHoudini Anise gets no comeuppance whatsoever]], particularly egregious since Luke got a much harsher treatment after committing a much more justifiable mistake. And 4) When Anise meets Arietta (another who cared deeply for Ion), she doesn't even bother to tell her of his death, and just kills her. There are no words.

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* Tropers/{{Sahgo}}: ''VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss'', I love you, but I'll never forgive how Anise's betrayal subplot was handled. Let's count the ways; 1) It all begins when Anise was being a spy for Mohs for the sake of her parents. A little retarded (since she should know that the party is more than strong enough to take matters into their own hands), but understandable, since she's just a kid, and a desperate one at that. But it all goes to hell when she's asked to bring Ion to Mohs. She knew that he would get rid of him as soon as he read the Score, and she supposedly freakin' loves him! And yet she carries him to his death. 2) After the party kills Mohs for that, they feel sorry for him. Namdai, you're trying to make us feel sorry for Mohs, that's easier said than done (actually, scratch that; it's not even easy said). 3) After the whole thing, [[KarmaHoudini Anise gets no comeuppance whatsoever]], particularly egregious since Luke got a much harsher treatment after committing a much more justifiable mistake. And 4) When Anise meets Arietta (another who cared deeply for Ion), she doesn't even bother to tell her of his death, and just kills her. There are no words.

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** StormKensho: What ''really'' teed this troper off about SC5 was the developer justification for why Taki(longtime series EnsembleDarkhorse) had retired from her mission of hunting the evil of Soul Edge: Apparently, Taki being 46 years-old meant she was too old to be a ninja and, like a proper woman, retired and trained a successor. Talk about massive ValuesDissonance! For one, anyone, especially a woman(who generally age a good bit slower than men, ''especially'' if they don't put their bodies through the stress of pregnancy and childbirth) will be more than capable of performing physical acrobatics and possess above-average flexibility into their ''fifties'' if they're vigorous enough with training and keeping themselves in shape, which Taki undoubtedly ''would'' due to being, y'know, '''Taki'''. Secondly, Mitsurugi is the ''exact same age'' as Taki in SC5 and is just as skilled and as capable as he was 17 years prior despite being in a similarly-harrowing profession.
** Animeking1108: What turned me against the game was Patroklos' EstablishingCharacterMoment, where he murders an innocent man '''suspected''' of being Malfested.  What made it even worse was the smug smile he had while saying ''It's a shame you can't prove it'' after the man claimed his innocence.  Really, Namco?  DesignatedHero doesn't even describe him.  He's a full-blown CompleteMonster.  I give [[KingOfTheHill Hank Hill]], [[ICarly Carly Shay]], and HaruhiSuzumiya crap for being in the DesignatedHero trope, but at least they never killed anybody.

15th Apr '13 11:29:07 AM ilovedededeAGAIN2

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* ilovedededeAGAIN: Nintendo has such good games but makes bad commercials, all the time. My original DMOS was for the commercial for ''NewSuperMarioBros2'', but it got deleted for not explained why it was a DMOS. That's where the commercial for ''LuigisMansionDarkMoon'' kicks in. First off, all it is is just a kid in his house, in the dark, with his flashlight, and then a ghost appears, so what does he do? Vacuum it up, [[CaptainObvious obviously]]. Then Luigi comes in, the box art and shown, and it ends right there. Why they had to create this is beyond me, but the reason I hate this commercial is because it they showed it way too often after the actual game's release, plus the fact that other than Luigi, ghosts, and a flashlight, it has nothing else that makes it more detailing. Why couldn't they put him in one of the game's mansions instead of the kid's house? And also how did the ghosts pop out of the 3DS? (XL?). It makes no sense. Many people may not agree with me, but this commercial makes the original ''LuigisMansion'' look bad. Couldn't Nintendo put more effort into this? I hate this commercial more than anything else.

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* ilovedededeAGAIN: Nintendo has such good games but makes bad commercials, all the time. My original DMOS was for the commercial for ''NewSuperMarioBros.2'', but it got deleted for not explained why it was a DMOS. That's where the commercial for ''LuigisMansionDarkMoon'' kicks in. First off, all it is is just a kid in his house, in the dark, with his flashlight, and then a ghost appears, so what does he do? Vacuum it up, [[CaptainObvious obviously]]. Then Luigi comes in, the box art and shown, and it ends right there. Why they had to create this is beyond me, but the reason I hate this commercial is because it they showed it way too often after the actual game's release, plus the fact that other than Luigi, ghosts, and a flashlight, it has nothing else that makes it more detailing. Why couldn't they put him in one of the game's mansions instead of the kid's house? And also how did the ghosts pop out of the 3DS? (XL?). It makes no sense. Many people may not agree with me, but this commercial makes the original ''LuigisMansion'' look bad. Couldn't Nintendo put more effort into this? I hate this commercial more than anything else.

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* ilovedededeAGAIN: Nintendo has such good games but makes bad commercials, all the time. My original DMOS was for the commercial for ''NewSuperMarioBros.2'', but it got deleted for not explained why it was a DMOS. That's where the commercial for ''LuigisMansion:DarkMoon'' kicks in. First off, all it is is just a kid in his house, in the dark, with his flashlight, and then a ghost appears, so what does he do? Vacuum it up, [[CaptainObvious obviously]]. Then Luigi comes in, the box art and shown, and it ends right there. Why they had to create this is beyond me, but the reason I hate this commercial is because it they showed it way too often after the actual game's release, plus the fact that other than Luigi, ghosts, and a flashlight, it has nothing else that makes it more detailing. Why couldn't they put him in one of the game's mansions instead of the kid's house? And also how did the ghosts pop out of the 3DS? (XL?). It makes no sense. Many people may not agree with me, but this commercial makes the original ''LuigisMansion'' look bad. Couldn't Nintendo put more effort into this? I hate this commercial more than anything else.

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