History DethroningMoment / TheSimpsons

1st Oct '17 3:50:46 AM Whoa15
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1st Oct '17 3:25:15 AM Whoa15
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* Whoa15: "The Nightmaee After Krustmas" bothered me in regards to Krusty converting to Christianity to make his daughter happy. The subplot of Reverend Lovejoy looking to get people to be on the church more often was somewhat understandable but the conversion itself just felt cheap and meaningless.
28th Aug '17 11:08:15 AM TommyTiger
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* ''Tropers/{{thatsnumberwang}}'': "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS21E16TheGreatestStoryEverDohed The Greatest Story Ever D'ohed]]" was the moment I realized the lighthearted and funny comedy I grew up with had died forever. I'm of the firm belief that Lisa is possibly the vilest individual in Simpsons history - she makes Mr. Burns look like a kind, thoughtful and sensitive man (just read some of the other Lisa examples on this very page to further back up my claims). So basically, Bart ends up getting chased by a girl who watched him vandalize a sacred wall and ends up getting rather violently kicked in the groin; now, arguably he was being a dick and deserved it. Later on, however, Lisa, with full knowledge of this incident and the fact that Bart was probably still in pain despite not outwardly showing it, sadistically hits him in the groin again because she wanted his airplane seat. She shows absolutely no remorse and even laughs at the sight of her brother crumpled in pain on the floor beside her. Yes, she's eight years old and yes, that's what eight-year-old girls often do but we're talking about a character who used to be portrayed as a caring pacifist violently attacking a boy who, whilst frequently naughty, has been shown to genuinely love and care for her on a vast multitude of occasions.

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* ''Tropers/{{thatsnumberwang}}'': "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS21E16TheGreatestStoryEverDohed The Greatest Story Ever D'ohed]]" was the moment I realized the lighthearted and funny comedy I grew up with had died forever. I'm of the firm belief that Lisa is possibly the vilest individual in Simpsons history - she makes Mr. Burns look like a kind, thoughtful and sensitive man (just read some of the other Lisa examples on this very page to further back up my claims).man. So basically, Bart ends up getting chased by a girl who watched him vandalize a sacred wall and ends up getting rather violently kicked in the groin; now, arguably he was being a dick and deserved it. Later on, however, Lisa, with full knowledge of this incident and the fact that Bart was probably still in pain despite not outwardly showing it, sadistically hits him in the groin again because she wanted his airplane seat. She shows absolutely no remorse and even laughs at the sight of her brother crumpled in pain on the floor beside her. Yes, she's eight years old and yes, that's what eight-year-old girls often do but we're talking about a character who used to be portrayed as a caring pacifist violently attacking a boy who, whilst frequently naughty, has been shown to genuinely love and care for her on a vast multitude of occasions.
13th Aug '17 5:04:20 AM Kittencakes
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* Tropers/kittencakes: For me, it was the contempt they showed for Catholicism in "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS16E21TheFatherTheSonAndTheHolyGuestStar The Father, the Son and the Holy Guest Star]]". I would've accepted it fine if it had been another jab at religion, or even something like Lisa's conversion to Buddhism, but they treat Catholicism as this scary, old religion that only "poor people" believe in (Marge's version of Catholic heaven seem to be a jab at poor Mexicans, Italians and Irish...Where's the joke in that?) and apparently Protestantism is only for the wealthy, "honorable" people worth talking about. Not to mention the fact that in real life, the Simpsons is very popular in many Catholic-dominated countries (all of South America and most of Europe, basically). What could've been something funny just turned into a thoughtless, [[UnfortunateImplications classist and racist]] commentary.

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* Tropers/kittencakes: Tropers/KittenCakes: For me, it was the contempt they showed for Catholicism in "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS16E21TheFatherTheSonAndTheHolyGuestStar The Father, the Son and the Holy Guest Star]]". I would've accepted it fine if it had been another jab at religion, or even something like Lisa's conversion to Buddhism, but they treat Catholicism as this scary, old religion that only "poor people" believe in (Marge's version of Catholic heaven seem to be a jab at poor Mexicans, Italians and Irish...Where's the joke in that?) and apparently Protestantism is only for the wealthy, "honorable" people worth talking about. Not to mention the fact that in real life, the Simpsons is very popular in many Catholic-dominated countries (all of South America and most of Europe, basically). What could've been something funny just turned into a thoughtless, [[UnfortunateImplications classist and racist]] commentary.
13th Aug '17 5:02:59 AM Kittencakes
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* Tropes/kittencakes: For me, it was the contempt they showed for Catholicism in "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS16E21TheFatherTheSonAndTheHolyGuestStar The Father, the Son and the Holy Guest Star]]". I would've accepted it fine if it had been another jab at religion, or even something like Lisa's conversion to Buddhism, but they treat Catholicism as this scary, old religion that only "poor people" believe in (Marge's version of Catholic heaven seem to be a jab at poor Mexicans, Italians and Irish...Where's the joke in that?) and apparently Protestantism is only for the wealthy, "honorable" people worth talking about. Not to mention the fact that in real life, the Simpsons is very popular in many Catholic-dominated countries (all of South America and most of Europe, basically). What could've been something funny just turned into a thoughtless, [[UnfortunateImplications classist and racist]] commentary.

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* Tropes/kittencakes: Tropers/kittencakes: For me, it was the contempt they showed for Catholicism in "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS16E21TheFatherTheSonAndTheHolyGuestStar The Father, the Son and the Holy Guest Star]]". I would've accepted it fine if it had been another jab at religion, or even something like Lisa's conversion to Buddhism, but they treat Catholicism as this scary, old religion that only "poor people" believe in (Marge's version of Catholic heaven seem to be a jab at poor Mexicans, Italians and Irish...Where's the joke in that?) and apparently Protestantism is only for the wealthy, "honorable" people worth talking about. Not to mention the fact that in real life, the Simpsons is very popular in many Catholic-dominated countries (all of South America and most of Europe, basically). What could've been something funny just turned into a thoughtless, [[UnfortunateImplications classist and racist]] commentary.
13th Aug '17 5:00:57 AM Kittencakes
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* Tropes/kittencakes: For me, it was the contempt they showed for Catholicism in "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS16E21TheFatherTheSonAndTheHolyGuestStar The Father, the Son and the Holy Guest Star]]". I would've accepted it fine if it had been another jab at religion, or even something like Lisa's conversion to Buddhism, but they treat Catholicism as this scary, old religion that only "poor people" believe in (Marge's version of Catholic heaven seem to be a jab at poor Mexicans, Italians and Irish...Where's the joke in that?) and apparently Protestantism is only for the wealthy, "honorable" people worth talking about. Not to mention the fact that in real life, the Simpsons is very popular in many Catholic-dominated countries (all of South America and most of Europe, basically). What could've been something funny just turned into a thoughtless, [[UnfortunateImplications classist and racist]] commentary.
8th Aug '17 12:07:29 AM TommyTiger
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** Yeah, poor Bart. He only deliberately destroyed someone else's hard work for no good reason and then showed no immediate remorse.



** Tropers/{{dannylightninglightner}}: This episode has a dethroning moment for me, as well. Lisa sees Homer and Bart on all fours eating chocolate off of the floor. Lisa has an ImagineSpot of being an overweight, unintelligent adult with many children, and his horrified. She says, "I don't want to turn out that way!" Homer looks up at her and (very sweetly) says, "What way, Angel Pie?" Lisa yells, "Like '''YOU!'''" Yeah, Homer's an overweight slob and not the brightest guy around, but it's been made very clear, since the first season, that he loves his family more than anything and he'd do just about anything to make his daughter happy. This is the same dad who took a demeaning job as a mall santa to give his family a nice holiday when he wasn't given his Christmas bonus, the same dad who once worked his fingers to the bone to let Lisa have a pony, the same dad who '''once attempted suicide''' when he believed that he was a failure to them, the same dad who lovingly comforted his crying daughter when the substitute teacher she'd grown attached to left town, the same dad who constantly encourages Lisa and tells her ''all the time'' that she's beautiful and intelligent. Because Homer affectionately called Lisa "Angel Pie" just before Lisa snapped at him, it made her "like you!" comment seem like a ''major'' KickTheDog moment.
*** Also, the same dad who strangles his son every day. The same dad who frequently breaks the law. The same dad who used a gun like a toy. The same dad who gets madly drunk many, many times throughout the show. Yes, Lisa should clearly aspire to be like him!

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** Tropers/{{dannylightninglightner}}: This episode has a dethroning moment for me, as well. Lisa sees Homer and Bart on all fours eating chocolate off of the floor. Lisa has an ImagineSpot of being an overweight, unintelligent adult with many children, and his horrified. She says, "I don't want to turn out that way!" Homer looks up at her and (very sweetly) says, "What way, Angel Pie?" Lisa yells, "Like '''YOU!'''" Yeah, Homer's an overweight slob and not the brightest guy around, but it's been made very clear, since the first season, that he loves his family more than anything and he'd do just about anything to make his daughter happy. This is the same dad who took a demeaning job as a mall santa to give his family a nice holiday when he wasn't given his Christmas bonus, the same dad who once worked his fingers to the bone to let Lisa have a pony, the same dad who '''once attempted suicide''' when he believed that he was a failure to them, the same dad who lovingly comforted his crying daughter when the substitute teacher she'd grown attached to left town, the same dad who constantly encourages Lisa and tells her ''all the time'' that she's beautiful and intelligent. Because Homer affectionately called Lisa "Angel Pie" just before Lisa snapped at him, it made her "like you!" comment seem like a ''major'' KickTheDog moment.
*** Also, the same dad who strangles his son every day. The same dad who frequently breaks the law. The same dad who used a gun like a toy. The same dad who gets madly drunk many, many times throughout the show. Yes, Lisa should clearly aspire to be like him!
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4th Aug '17 7:31:01 AM TT454
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** Yeah, poor Bart. He only deliberately destroyed someone else's hard work for no good reason and then showed no immediate remorse.
4th Aug '17 7:27:21 AM TT454
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*** Also, the same dad who strangles his son every day. The same dad who frequently breaks the law. The same dad who used a gun like a toy. The same dad who gets madly drunk many, many times throughout the show. Yes, Lisa should clearly aspire to be like him!
2nd Aug '17 5:12:18 PM ZippyBunny
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