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27th Aug '16 8:24:33 AM nerdofgrayskull
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* nerdofgrayskull: My problem is that Lady Gaga only has one joke; Lady Gaga wears weird outfits. Use new jokes, or get another celebrity guest
star. The episode reminds me of "Summer of 4ft 2", in which Christina Ricci does a much better job at cheering Lisa up.

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* nerdofgrayskull: My problem is that Lady Gaga only has one joke; Lady Gaga wears weird outfits. Use new jokes, or get another celebrity guest
star. The episode reminds me of "Summer of 4ft 2", in which Christina Ricci does a much better job at cheering Lisa up.
guest star.
27th Aug '16 8:17:22 AM nerdofgrayskull
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* nerdofgrayskull: My problem is that Lady Gaga only has one joke; Lady Gaga wears weird outfits. Use new jokes, or get another celebrity guest
star. The episode reminds me of "Summer of 4ft 2", in which Christina Ricci does a much better job at cheering Lisa up.
31st Jul '16 6:20:59 PM MissConduct
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* [=MissConduct=]: What about the despicable "I, (Annoyed Grunt)-Bot"? That episode was TRAUMATIC for me to watch as a young child! Did they really need to put the most violent sub-plot (Homer getting mangled by robots in the robot-fighting arena) and the most morbid subplot (Lisa's cats dying in quick succession) in the same episode? The Lisa sub-plot was horrible on so many levels - as a cat person, I'm used to the Simpsons being anti-cat, what with all the Itchy & Scratchy and whatnot, but this just made me feel horrible. And it felt insulting to poor Lisa too - one of the cats kills itself to get away from her music - as much as Lisa's become less tolerable over the years, she still deserves better. And the A-Plot has to be one of the worst Homer/Bart stories ever too - Homer gets himself maimed repeatedly for Bart's silly competition? Bart even points out in the episode the Homer is the sole breadwinner for the Simpson family, putting himself in serious danger for something so trivial? And the audience boos him when he wins for his son! This episode is just soul-crushing and the bottom of the dark age of the series. This easily could have been a Family Guy episode, and I watch the Simpsons to not have it be Family Guy!

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* [=MissConduct=]: What about the despicable "I, (Annoyed Grunt)-Bot"? That episode was TRAUMATIC traumatic for me to watch as a young child! Did they really need to put the most violent sub-plot (Homer getting mangled by robots in the robot-fighting arena) and the most morbid subplot (Lisa's cats dying in quick succession) in the same episode? The Lisa sub-plot was horrible on so many levels - as a cat person, I'm used to the Simpsons being anti-cat, what with all the Itchy & Scratchy and whatnot, but this just made me feel horrible. And it felt insulting to poor Lisa too - one of the cats kills itself to get away from her music - as much as Lisa's become less tolerable over the years, she still deserves better. And the A-Plot has to be one of the worst Homer/Bart stories ever too - Homer gets himself maimed repeatedly for Bart's silly competition? Bart even points out in the episode the Homer is the sole breadwinner for the Simpson family, putting himself in serious danger for something so trivial? And the audience boos him when he wins for his son! This episode is just soul-crushing and the bottom of the dark age of the series. This easily could have been a Family Guy episode, and I watch the Simpsons to not have it be Family Guy!
23rd Jul '16 1:03:41 PM CommanderBLAARGH
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* CommanderBLAARGH: Begin rant. For me, itís ďO Brother, Where Bart Thou?Ē. Lisa brags to Bart that heíll never have the same kind of gender-based connection she has with Maggie, being sisters. I can accept this. Itís flimsy as hell, given that Maggieís a baby who may well grow up to be closer to her brother than her sister, but I can at least see Lisaís logic. This isnít the DMOS.
Later on in the episode, Bart has taken up with a young runaway from an orphanage named Charlie, and formed the same kind of bond that Lisa said heíd never form. Lisa then attempts to get him to take Charlie back to the orphanage. Now, there are a multitude of reasons why Charlie canít stay: Bart is far too irresponsible to be a good influence on him, the familyís finances are stretched far enough with five members, let alone six, etc. This isnít the DMOS either.
The DMOS is that Lisa doesnít state any of these reasons as to why Charlie canít stay. Instead, she tries to overrule the brotherly bond that Bart and Charlie have by appealing to the bond that she has with Bart. You know, the same bond that she GLEEFULLY SHOT DOWN IN FLAMES at the beginning of the same furschlugginer episode. Iíve been becoming gradually more convinced that Lisaís just a shrill, self-important writerís pet for some time now, and this otherwise touching episode proves it with this steaming turd of an excuse for a climax. End rant.

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* CommanderBLAARGH: Begin rant. For me, itís ďO Brother, Where Bart Thou?Ē. Lisa brags to Bart that heíll never have the same kind of gender-based connection she has with Maggie, being sisters. I can accept this. Itís flimsy as hell, given that Maggieís a baby who may well grow up to be closer to her brother than her sister, but I can at least see Lisaís logic. This isnít the DMOS. \n Later on in the episode, Bart has taken up with a young runaway from an orphanage named Charlie, and formed the same kind of bond that Lisa said heíd never form. Lisa then attempts to get him to take Charlie back to the orphanage. Now, there are a multitude of reasons why Charlie canít stay: Bart is far too irresponsible to be a good influence on him, the familyís finances are stretched far enough with five members, let alone six, etc. This isnít the DMOS either. \n The DMOS is that Lisa doesnít state any of these reasons as to why Charlie canít stay. Instead, she tries to overrule the brotherly bond that Bart and Charlie have by appealing to the bond that she has with Bart. You know, the same bond that she GLEEFULLY SHOT DOWN IN FLAMES at the beginning of the same furschlugginer episode. Iíve been becoming gradually more convinced that Lisaís just a shrill, self-important writerís pet for some time now, and this otherwise touching episode proves it with this steaming festering turd of an excuse for a climax. End rant.
23rd Jul '16 1:00:59 PM CommanderBLAARGH
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* CommanderBLAARGH: Begin rant. For me, itís ďO Brother, Where Bart Thou?Ē. Lisa brags to Bart that heíll never have the same kind of gender-based connection she has with Maggie, being sisters. I can accept this. Itís flimsy as hell, given that Maggieís a baby who may well grow up to be closer to her brother than her sister, but I can at least see Lisaís logic. This isnít the DMOS.
Later on in the episode, Bart has taken up with a young runaway from an orphanage named Charlie, and formed the same kind of bond that Lisa said heíd never form. Lisa then attempts to get him to take Charlie back to the orphanage. Now, there are a multitude of reasons why Charlie canít stay: Bart is far too irresponsible to be a good influence on him, the familyís finances are stretched far enough with five members, let alone six, etc. This isnít the DMOS either.
The DMOS is that Lisa doesnít state any of these reasons as to why Charlie canít stay. Instead, she tries to overrule the brotherly bond that Bart and Charlie have by appealing to the bond that she has with Bart. You know, the same bond that she GLEEFULLY SHOT DOWN IN FLAMES at the beginning of the same furschlugginer episode. Iíve been becoming gradually more convinced that Lisaís just a shrill, self-important writerís pet for some time now, and this otherwise touching episode proves it with this steaming turd of an excuse for a climax. End rant.
7th Jul '16 10:00:36 AM gewunomox
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** Tropers/{{Monsund}}: While most of the Homer getting mutilated jokes in the later seasons were pretty bad, Homer getting his intestines ripped out by a badger was just the worst in my opinion. This isn't WesternAnimation/SouthPark or WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy where characters can be messily killed only to come back later, Homer isn't [[TheyKilledKenny Kenny]], the regular episodes of the Simpsons are supposed to have some basis in reality. Keep the HappyTreeFriends [[TropeNamer type]] [[DeathAsComedy humor]] in TheItchyAndScratchyShow and TreehouseOfHorror, don't let it [[VisualPun bleed into]] [[{{Canon}} the actual plot]]. I feel bad that TheWho showed up in such an awful episode.

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** Tropers/{{Monsund}}: While most of the Homer getting mutilated jokes in the later seasons were pretty bad, Homer getting his intestines ripped out by a badger was just the worst in my opinion. This isn't WesternAnimation/SouthPark or WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy where characters can be messily killed only to come back later, Homer isn't [[TheyKilledKenny Kenny]], the regular episodes of the Simpsons are supposed to have some basis in reality. Keep the HappyTreeFriends [[TropeNamer type]] [[DeathAsComedy humor]] in TheItchyAndScratchyShow and TreehouseOfHorror, don't let it [[VisualPun bleed into]] [[{{Canon}} the actual plot]]. I feel bad that TheWho Music/TheWho showed up in such an awful episode.
15th Jun '16 9:33:25 AM Berrenta
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9th Jun '16 9:43:18 PM Josef5678
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[[caption-width-right:300:An [[CatchPhrase annoyed grunt]] will not suffice.]]

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23rd May '16 1:16:24 PM SorPepita
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* IvanovTroping97: I can't believe no one mentioned "Lisa Goes Gaga" yet. I hate this episode for the fact that Lisa's been flandarized beyond belief. She is smarter than this, she should have known better to trust a very egotistical singer like Lady Gaga. Not only that, but Lady Gaga's appearance to cheer Lisa up feels like a blatant attempt at a DeusExMachina. I know that a lot of guest stars can be considered MarySue, but Lady Gaga is the worst. Now, I don't hate her music, it's just that [[Recap/TheSimpsonsS3E1StarkRavingDad a similar episode]] did a similar plot about Lisa's depression much better 2 decades ago, and the character that Music/MichaelJackson voiced wasn't really him.

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* IvanovTroping97: I can't believe no one mentioned "Lisa Goes Gaga" yet. I hate this episode for the fact that Lisa's been flandarized flanderized beyond belief. She is smarter than this, she should have known better to trust a very egotistical singer like Lady Gaga. Not only that, but Lady Gaga's appearance to cheer Lisa up feels like a blatant attempt at a DeusExMachina. I know that a lot of guest stars can be considered MarySue, but Lady Gaga is the worst. Now, I don't hate her music, it's just that [[Recap/TheSimpsonsS3E1StarkRavingDad a similar episode]] did a similar plot about Lisa's depression much better 2 decades ago, and the character that Music/MichaelJackson voiced wasn't really him.
23rd May '16 1:11:39 PM SorPepita
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** thetoonamirose: Really, just the very fact that all those people would drive a little boy to suicide like that over [[EvilIsPetty missing a single ball]]. a. single. ball. that was the moment that made me realize that 99% of the characters lost all their likability and would go down in history as some of the most heinous animated characters of all time, possibly just as bad as [[Manga/FullmetalAlchemist Sho Tucker]] or even freaking [[Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame Judge Claud Frollo]].
* Tropers/{{MrThorfan64}}: Ice Cream of Margie (with the Light Blue Hair) has a scene where Homer forces a lactose intolerent kid to eat an ice cream, claiming they should show it respect. When they collapse and tell him to call the doctor's number on their band, Homer starts mocking them about the band. That scene was just mean. I have a lactose intolerent friend and the scene feels offensive to those with such conditions. Potentially killing someone just because... they can't have ice creams and then mocking them about it is such a {{Jerkass}} moment for Homer. It feels like something Family Guy would do.

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** thetoonamirose: Really, just the very fact that all those people would drive a little boy to suicide like that over [[EvilIsPetty missing a single ball]]. a.A. single. ball. that That was the moment that made me realize that 99% of the characters lost all their likability and would go down in history as some of the most heinous animated characters of all time, possibly just as bad as [[Manga/FullmetalAlchemist Sho Tucker]] or even freaking [[Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame Judge Claud Frollo]].
* Tropers/{{MrThorfan64}}: Ice Cream of Margie (with the Light Blue Hair) has a scene where Homer forces a lactose intolerent intolerant kid to eat an ice cream, claiming they he should show it respect. When they collapse he collapses and tell tells him to call the doctor's number on their band, Homer starts mocking them about the band. That scene was just mean. I have a lactose intolerent intolerant friend and the scene feels offensive to those with such conditions. Potentially killing someone just because... they can't have ice creams and then mocking them about it is such a {{Jerkass}} moment for Homer. It feels like something Family Guy would do.
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