History DethroningMoment / TheSimpsons

23rd Jul '17 2:50:37 AM zoopyDoopy
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** That last 'joke' is terrible on two counts: first, that rape is the implication that rape is funny if it's female on male. [[CaptainObvious It's really, really not.]] Second, take note of the dialogue: Homer starts saying he would rather have a discussion about their feelings than have sex i.e. they're putting Homer in the 'female' role in this situation. It's supposed to be funny because it's a subversion of the usual situation, with the usual situation being a wife wanting to talk about her feelings and the husband pressuring her to have sex. In other words, they're implying that marital rape happening to a woman is a normal situation, but when it happens to a man it's not a normal situation and the man should be the butt of a joke for it. This is about as hideous as rape humour gets, and it manages to insult both genders at the same time.

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** 'ZoopyDoopy': That last 'joke' is terrible on two counts: first, that rape is the implication that rape is funny if it's female on male. [[CaptainObvious It's really, really not.]] Second, take note of the dialogue: Homer starts saying he would rather have a discussion about their feelings than have sex i.e. they're putting Homer in the 'female' role in this situation. It's supposed to be funny because it's a subversion of the usual situation, with the usual situation being a wife wanting to talk about her feelings and the husband pressuring her to have sex. In other words, they're implying that marital rape happening to a woman is a normal situation, but when it happens to a man it's not a normal situation and the man should be the butt of a joke for it. This is about as hideous as rape humour gets, and it manages to insult both genders at the same time.
23rd Jul '17 2:48:57 AM zoopyDoopy
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** That last 'joke' is terrible on two counts: first, that rape is the implication that rape is funny if it's female on male. [[CaptainObvious It's really, really not.]] Second, take note of the dialogue: Homer starts saying he would rather have a discussion about their feelings than have sex i.e. they're putting Homer in the 'female' role in this situation. It's supposed to be funny because it's a subversion of the usual situation, with the usual situation being a wife wanting to talk about her feelings and the husband pressuring her to have sex. In other words, they're implying that marital rape happening to a woman is a normal situation, but when it happens to a man it's not a normal situation and the man should be the butt of a joke for it. This is about as hideous as rape humour gets, and it manages to insult both genders at the same time.
14th Jul '17 6:44:41 AM SorPepita
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* ninboy91: "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS20E7MypodsAndBoomsticks Mypods and Boomsticks]]" Okay, it's positive messages on Muslim citizens are well and good. But to do it, did they really have to ruin Homer's character? Seriously, he tried to feed Bashir's family a poisoned cake while he was of the mindset that Bashir's family are terrorists. [[Main/EvenEvilHasStandards When even Bart has more moral high grounds than his own dad, you know something is wrong.]]

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* ninboy91: "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS20E7MypodsAndBoomsticks Mypods and Boomsticks]]" Okay, it's its positive messages on Muslim citizens are well and good. But to do it, did they really have to ruin Homer's character? Seriously, he tried to feed Bashir's family a poisoned cake while he was of the mindset that Bashir's family are terrorists. [[Main/EvenEvilHasStandards When even Bart has more moral high grounds than his own dad, you know something is wrong.]]
14th Jul '17 6:41:30 AM SorPepita
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** JuniorGustabo: Lisa seems somewhat irritating. How exactly were her dreams shattered just because Bart also had talent? It's natural that she feels a little jealous but she actually cried because her brother is a good jazz player. Bart didn't purposely do anything wrong to her. Lisa even yelled at him for not knowing how to say "Jazz", considering how much the boy values her opinion on important matters, he really should be a little more hurt at this but it is not the case. When Marge bought her a pet, Lisa suddenly forgot about Bart, making her seem shallow. Later, the girl adopts animal after animal (She had absolutely no means to help them), puts them in the family's attic and ends up accidentally ruining Bart's talent because of it. And Lisa didn't apologize for causing the accident where Bart was hurt (Shouldn't Bart, Homer and Marge be angry with her for bringing wild animals into the house?). Then, Bart has a benefit concert set up to rectify the damage Lisa's actions caused, while the girl is still moping around because she has to give away animals she had no right to take in the first place. Lisa is more concerned about a bunch of animals than she is concerned about her brother. In the end, Bart feels empathy for her situation and gives the money raised to Lisa, so she can start a foundation for the animals. However, the real problem is that the writers just assume that we're supposed to root for Lisa. It's really hard to feel sorry for her because the girl has acted in a purely selfish manner throughout the whole episode. How were we supposed to sympathize with Lisa? She was arrogant, jealous and unsupportive. By the end of this episode, she didn't learn a lesson and she didn't feel real empathy for her brother. She not only received no punishment for her acts, but she is rewarded. Why does Bart have to give up his talent just to fund a sanctuary for Lisa? She can't save every animal in the planet, surely Lisa would realize this. Bart's drumming has to end but the story apparently has a "happy ending" because Lisa is happy.

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** JuniorGustabo: Lisa seems somewhat irritating. How exactly were her dreams shattered just because Bart also had talent? It's natural that she feels a little jealous but she actually cried because her brother is a good jazz player. Bart didn't purposely do anything wrong to her. Lisa even yelled at him for not knowing how to say "Jazz", "Jazz"; considering how much the boy values her opinion on important matters, he really should be a little more hurt at this but it is not the case. When Marge bought her a pet, Lisa suddenly forgot about Bart, making her seem shallow. Later, the girl adopts animal after animal (She had absolutely no means to help them), puts them in the family's attic and ends up accidentally ruining Bart's talent because of it. And Lisa didn't apologize for causing the accident where Bart was hurt (Shouldn't Bart, Homer and Marge be angry with her for bringing wild animals into the house?). Then, Bart has a benefit concert set up to rectify the damage Lisa's actions caused, while the girl is still moping around because she has to give away animals she had no right to take in the first place. Lisa is more concerned about a bunch of animals than she is concerned about her brother. In the end, Bart feels empathy for her situation and gives the money raised to Lisa, so she can start a foundation for the animals. However, the real problem is that the writers just assume that we're supposed to root for Lisa. It's really hard to feel sorry for her because the girl has acted in a purely selfish manner throughout the whole episode. How were we supposed to sympathize with Lisa? She was arrogant, jealous and unsupportive. By the end of this episode, she didn't learn a lesson and she didn't feel real empathy for her brother. She not only received no punishment for her acts, but she is rewarded. Why does Bart have to give up his talent just to fund a sanctuary for Lisa? She can't save every animal in the planet, surely Lisa would realize this. Bart's drumming has to end but the story apparently has a "happy ending" because Lisa is happy.
8th Jul '17 1:40:24 PM nombretomado
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* [[Tropers/ThirtyTwoFootsteps 32_Footsteps]]: "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS12E5HomerVsDignity Homer vs. Dignity]]". The infamous scene in which [[BestialityIsDepraved Homer is anally raped by a panda bear]]. Not that the rest of the episode was any better (TheOtherWiki even notes on the page for it that it's often considered [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homer_vs._Dignity one of the show's worst episodes]]), but that one scene made me so disgusted that I can't even go back to watch classics from the 90's, let alone anything made since.

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* [[Tropers/ThirtyTwoFootsteps 32_Footsteps]]: "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS12E5HomerVsDignity Homer vs. Dignity]]". The infamous scene in which [[BestialityIsDepraved Homer is anally raped by a panda bear]]. Not that the rest of the episode was any better (TheOtherWiki (Wiki/TheOtherWiki even notes on the page for it that it's often considered [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homer_vs._Dignity one of the show's worst episodes]]), but that one scene made me so disgusted that I can't even go back to watch classics from the 90's, let alone anything made since.
18th Jun '17 3:24:01 PM SpaceHunterDrakeRedcrest
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* SpaceHunterDrakeRedcrest: ''The Simpsons'' is a show full of dumb moments, especially in recent years, but for me, "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS20E10TakeMyLifePlease Take My Life, Please]]" has one of the dumbest. The episode basically shows a WhatIf scenario, if Homer had won class president in high school. This might make for an interesting story, but what ruins it is the framing. The way that they see what would've happened is by, and I'm not kidding, the saucier at Luigi's Restaurant stirring the marinara sauce to show what would happen. Now, I can suspend my disbelief for a lot of things the show does, but the idea of using a pot of marinara sauce for viewing alternate realities is just way too unbelievable and stupid for me to accept. Not even the new intro for the show saves this episode.
17th Jun '17 10:53:04 AM nombretomado
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** Doc Yoshi: I personally found the WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes "homage" rather funny and thought it the episode's saving grace. But as the "that's all folks" appeared on the screen (looking like something I'd see in a YoutubePoop might I add) it dawned on me that it's really out of place on this show. I'd expect such a moment on WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy but not on this show.

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** Doc Yoshi: I personally found the WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes "homage" rather funny and thought it the episode's saving grace. But as the "that's all folks" appeared on the screen (looking like something I'd see in a YoutubePoop WebAnimation/YouTubePoop might I add) it dawned on me that it's really out of place on this show. I'd expect such a moment on WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy but not on this show.
11th Jun '17 8:42:50 AM ninboy91
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* ninboy91: "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS20E7MypodsAndBoomsticks Mypods and Boomsticks]]" Okay, it's positive messages on Muslim citizens are well and good. But to do it, did they REALLY have to ruin Homer's character? Seriously, he tried to feed Bashir's family a poisoned cake while he was of the mindset that Bashir's family are terrorists. [[Main/EvenEvilHasStandards When even Bart has more moral high grounds than his own dad, you know something is wrong.]]

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* ninboy91: "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS20E7MypodsAndBoomsticks Mypods and Boomsticks]]" Okay, it's positive messages on Muslim citizens are well and good. But to do it, did they REALLY really have to ruin Homer's character? Seriously, he tried to feed Bashir's family a poisoned cake while he was of the mindset that Bashir's family are terrorists. [[Main/EvenEvilHasStandards When even Bart has more moral high grounds than his own dad, you know something is wrong.]]
11th Jun '17 8:41:32 AM ninboy91
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* ninboy91: [[Recap/TheSimpsonsS20E7MypodsAndBoomsticks Mypods and Boomsticks]]: Okay, it's positive messages on Muslim citizens are well and good. But to do it, did they REALLY have to ruin Homer's character? Seriously, he tried to feed Bashir's family a poisoned cake while he was of the mindset that Bashir's family are terrorists. [[Main/EvenEvilHasStandards When even Bart has more moral high grounds than his own dad, you KNOW something is wrong.]]

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* ninboy91: [[Recap/TheSimpsonsS20E7MypodsAndBoomsticks "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS20E7MypodsAndBoomsticks Mypods and Boomsticks]]: Boomsticks]]" Okay, it's positive messages on Muslim citizens are well and good. But to do it, did they REALLY have to ruin Homer's character? Seriously, he tried to feed Bashir's family a poisoned cake while he was of the mindset that Bashir's family are terrorists. [[Main/EvenEvilHasStandards When even Bart has more moral high grounds than his own dad, you KNOW know something is wrong.]]
10th Jun '17 8:59:29 PM ninboy91
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* ninboy91: [[Recap/TheSimpsonsS20E7MypodsAndBoomsticks Mypods and Boomsticks]]: Okay, it's positive messages on Muslim citizens are well and good. But to do it, did they REALLY have to ruin Homer's character to do it? Seriously, he tried to feed Bashir's family a poisoned cake while he was of the mindset that Bashir's family are terrorists. [[Main/EvenEvilHasStandards When even Bart has more moral high grounds than his own dad, you KNOW something is wrong.]]

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* ninboy91: [[Recap/TheSimpsonsS20E7MypodsAndBoomsticks Mypods and Boomsticks]]: Okay, it's positive messages on Muslim citizens are well and good. But to do it, did they REALLY have to ruin Homer's character to do it? character? Seriously, he tried to feed Bashir's family a poisoned cake while he was of the mindset that Bashir's family are terrorists. [[Main/EvenEvilHasStandards When even Bart has more moral high grounds than his own dad, you KNOW something is wrong.]]
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