History DethroningMoment / TheSimpsons

9th Apr '16 7:15:32 AM IvanovTroping97
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* IvanovTroping97: I can't believe no one mentioned "Lisa Goes Gaga" yet. I hate this episode for the fact that Lisa's been flandarized beyond belief. She is smarter than this, she should have known better to trust a very egotistical singer like Lady Gaga. Not only that, but Lady Gaga's appearance to cheer Lisa up feels like a blatant attempt at a DeusExMachina. I know that a lot of guest stars can be considered MarySue, but Lady Gaga is the worst. Now, I don't hate her music, it's just that [[Recap/TheSimpsonsS3E1StarkRavingDad a similar episode]] did a similar plot about Lisa's depression much better 2 decades ago, and the character that Music/MichaelJackson voiced wasn't really him.
14th Mar '16 3:54:47 AM KhlavKalash
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* Animeking1108: ''The Man Who Came to Be Dinner'' was an overall example of how the writers decided to just start doing what they wanted, but one moment really irked me when they were at [[BlandNameProduct Diz-Nee Land]]. In one scene, a guy in a Mickey Mouse costume just [[BigLippedAligatorMoment randomly says]] "My cartoons weren't good; they were just first." There was no point to it. It didn't lead to any scenes nor did it lead to any gags. It was just a completely unsubtle stab at Disney. Was the point the writers were trying to make is that they're so arrogant, they think they're better than one of the Founding Fathers of Animation? If so, then good job. Or maybe they're bitter about Brad Bird leaving them for Disney? Either one wouldn't surprise me.

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* Animeking1108: ''The Man Who Came to Be Dinner'' was an overall example of how the writers decided to just start doing what they wanted, but one moment really irked me when they were at [[BlandNameProduct Diz-Nee Land]]. In one scene, a guy in a Mickey Mouse costume just [[BigLippedAligatorMoment [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment randomly says]] "My cartoons weren't good; they were just first." There was no point to it. It didn't lead to any scenes nor did it lead to any gags. It was just a completely unsubtle stab at Disney. Was the point the writers were trying to make is that they're so arrogant, they think they're better than one of the Founding Fathers of Animation? If so, then good job. Or maybe they're bitter about Brad Bird leaving them for Disney? Either one wouldn't surprise me.
8th Mar '16 11:09:35 AM CynicalBastardo
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* Tropers/CynicalBastardo: "Lisa the Vegetarian" always grates on me. Don't get me wrong, it's a funny episode, but Lisa's behaviour here seriously cements her position as a SoapboxSadie and TheScrappy. When she gets preachy about Homer serving a pig at a barbecue, she tries to force gazpacho on everyone. Then, when rebuffed, she tows the pig away and pushes it down a hill, where is promptly takes off. When confronted, she refuses to apologise for her actions. While she does learn her lesson with help from Apu and the [=McCartneys=], this sets her up for future episodes as a CreatorsPet.
18th Feb '16 7:24:51 PM Peteman
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* TT454: Though I no longer watch new Simpsons episodes, and haven't done so since the movie, after finding out about a scene from the episode "Covercraft" I've finally found my absolute least favourite moment. In this music-themed episode, Homer forms yet another band. After Apu leaves the band, Homer claims the band will be like {{Music/Genesis}} after the departure of lead singer Peter Gabriel. Bart responds: [[ItsPopularNowItSucks "You mean, more popular, but not as good?"]] to which Homer replies with the names of six of the most hated Genesis pop tracks. This, to me, is the most insulting exchange in the history of the show. To deliberately narrow the entire Phil Collins era down to just six pop songs (implying that the band never accomplished anything else during that era) is sickeningly ignorant. As a massive fan of all eras of Genesis, I'm very disappointed in the writers of the show for shaming the band in this way. Genesis arguably has the most BrokenBase in music history, and [[BlatantLies untruthful exchanges]] like this, which pander to the [[FanDumb "Phil Collins sucks because he ruined Genesis!"]] camp, only serve to make it even worse.
18th Feb '16 7:23:13 PM thetoonamirose
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** thetoonamirose: Really, just the very fact that all those people would drive a little boy to suicide like that over [[EvilIsPetty missing a single ball]] a. single. ball. that was the moment that made me realize that 99% of the characters lost all their likability and would go down in history as some of the most heinous animated characters of all time, possibly just as bad as [[Manga/FullmetalAlchemist Sho Tucker]] or even freaking [[Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame Judge Claud Frollo]].

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** thetoonamirose: Really, just the very fact that all those people would drive a little boy to suicide like that over [[EvilIsPetty missing a single ball]] ball]]. a. single. ball. that was the moment that made me realize that 99% of the characters lost all their likability and would go down in history as some of the most heinous animated characters of all time, possibly just as bad as [[Manga/FullmetalAlchemist Sho Tucker]] or even freaking [[Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame Judge Claud Frollo]].
18th Feb '16 7:21:42 PM thetoonamirose
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** thetoonamirose: Really, just the very fact that all those people would drive a little boy to suicide like that over [[EvilIsPetty missing a single ball]] a. single. ball. that was the moment that made me realize that 99% of the characters lost all their likability and would go down in history as some of the most heinous animated characters of all time, possibly just as bad as [[Manga/FullmetalAlchemist Sho Tucker]] or even freaking [[Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame Judge Claud Frollo]].
21st Jan '16 1:17:12 PM Larkmarn
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* Redmane: "The Father, the Son and the Holy Guest Star" presents a very negative view of Catholicism. It wouldn't bother me so much if it wasn't for the fact that almost all other religions have been represented positively in the Simpsons, but Catholicism here is presented as the crazy religion of dirty, poor immigrants which the upper class/rich white people shouldn't be invested with. I also don't understand the double standard; since when Lisa turned into a Buddhist, everybody accepted it, but Bart and Homer turning into Catholics was seen as something horrible.



* Redmane: "Four Great Women and a Manicure" Overall the episode at parts isn't bad, but it gets ruined the moment Lisa showcases her radfem misandristic side, belittling Marge for caring about her physical appearance ([[RealWomenNeverWearDresses oh the horror]]), and going on a rant about "herp derp men are just scum and women don't need no man evah!!" while massively changing the Snow White story for no reason (bc radfems hate Disney I guess) with Lisa's new ending "she was saved by a doctor because a competent woman doesn't need a man!". Ugh, usually I'm tolerant of Lisa's liberal quirks and often agree with some of her points but the moment she goes all radfem/white guilt/anti-Christian on us is when she's at her worst.



** Redmane: I found the episode passable at times (i mostly liked the Star Trek credits), but what irked me was a joke in the start of the episode, when the family is arriving at Disneyland. They park in the "Ethnic Princess" spot, with an image of a princess of many different cultures mixed in together (a girl wearing a Native American headdress while wearing a kimono and holding a shamrock and a piñata on her hand). Obviously it's a jab at the Disney princess line, but here's the problem...Where's the joke? Is having more than one non-white princess bad? Are all cultures interchangeable? Disney should only have white princesses? Because that's what the joke implies, and it's far from the truth. Native American, Chinese etc cultures are vastly different and Disney has done its best to differentiate between them in their films. This is a very awkward joke that no matter how you look at it it makes the Simpsons writers seem like the actual racists, not Disney.
5th Jan '16 4:59:55 AM Redmane
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* Redmane: "Four Great Women and a Manicure" Overall the episode at parts isn't bad, but it gets ruined the moment Lisa showcases her radfem misandristic side, belittling Marge for caring about her physical appearance ([[RealWomenNeverWearDresses oh the horror]]), and going on a rant about "herp derp men are just scum and women don't need no man evah!!" while massively changing the Snow White for no reason (bc radfems hate Disney I guess), and attributing all types of negative qualities to the male dwarves; while the pretty, perfect female Snow White!Lisa gets all the positive qualities.

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* Redmane: "Four Great Women and a Manicure" Overall the episode at parts isn't bad, but it gets ruined the moment Lisa showcases her radfem misandristic side, belittling Marge for caring about her physical appearance ([[RealWomenNeverWearDresses oh the horror]]), and going on a rant about "herp derp men are just scum and women don't need no man evah!!" while massively changing the Snow White story for no reason (bc radfems hate Disney I guess), guess) with Lisa's new ending "she was saved by a doctor because a competent woman doesn't need a man!". Ugh, usually I'm tolerant of Lisa's liberal quirks and attributing often agree with some of her points but the moment she goes all types of negative qualities to the male dwarves; while the pretty, perfect female Snow White!Lisa gets all the positive qualities.radfem/white guilt/anti-Christian on us is when she's at her worst.



** Redmane: I found the episode passable at times (i mostly liked the Star Trek credits though), but what irked me was a joke in the start of the episode, when the family is arriving at Disneyland. They park in the "Ethnic Princess" spot, with an image of a princess of many different cultures mixed in together. Obviously a jab at the princess line, but here's the problem...Where's the joke? Is having more than one non-white princess bad? Are all cultures interchangeable? Because that's far from the truth. North American, Chinese etc cultures are vastly different and Disney has done its best to differentiate between them in their films. This is a very awkward joke that no matter how you look at it it makes the Simpsons writers seem like the actual racists, not Disney.

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** Redmane: I found the episode passable at times (i mostly liked the Star Trek credits though), credits), but what irked me was a joke in the start of the episode, when the family is arriving at Disneyland. They park in the "Ethnic Princess" spot, with an image of a princess of many different cultures mixed in together. together (a girl wearing a Native American headdress while wearing a kimono and holding a shamrock and a piñata on her hand). Obviously it's a jab at the Disney princess line, but here's the problem...Where's the joke? Is having more than one non-white princess bad? Are all cultures interchangeable? Disney should only have white princesses? Because that's what the joke implies, and it's far from the truth. North Native American, Chinese etc cultures are vastly different and Disney has done its best to differentiate between them in their films. This is a very awkward joke that no matter how you look at it it makes the Simpsons writers seem like the actual racists, not Disney.
5th Jan '16 4:21:45 AM Redmane
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* Redmane: "The Father, the Son and the Holy Guest Star" presents a very negative view of Catholicism. It wouldn't bother me so much if it wasn't for the fact that almost all other religions have been represented positively in the Simpsons, but Catholicism here is presented as the crazy religion of dirt,y poor immigrants which the upper/rich white people shouldn't be invested with. I also don't understand the double standard; since when Lisa turned into a Buddhist, everybody accepted it, but Bart and Homer turning into Catholics was seen as something horrible.

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* Redmane: "The Father, the Son and the Holy Guest Star" presents a very negative view of Catholicism. It wouldn't bother me so much if it wasn't for the fact that almost all other religions have been represented positively in the Simpsons, but Catholicism here is presented as the crazy religion of dirt,y dirty, poor immigrants which the upper/rich upper class/rich white people shouldn't be invested with. I also don't understand the double standard; since when Lisa turned into a Buddhist, everybody accepted it, but Bart and Homer turning into Catholics was seen as something horrible.
27th Dec '15 2:51:04 PM Willbyr
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* Tropers/{{Bananaquit}}: "Saddlesore Galactica". Really, the whole episode, as it seemed cruelly calculated by the writers to [[TakeThat raise the ire of anyone who criticized the show]]. However, I was willing to give it the benefit of the doubt; even though I didnít laugh once during the first two acts. Then comes the third act, where itís revealed that jockeys are really [[DarthWiki/WallBanger Keeblerô-like elves who live in an underground cave beneath a tree. Who perform a horrid musical number]].

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* Tropers/{{Bananaquit}}: "Saddlesore Galactica". Really, the whole episode, as it seemed cruelly calculated by the writers to [[TakeThat raise the ire of anyone who criticized the show]]. However, I was willing to give it the benefit of the doubt; even though I didnít laugh once during the first two acts. Then comes the third act, where itís revealed that jockeys are really [[DarthWiki/WallBanger Keeblerô-like elves who live in an underground cave beneath a tree. Who tree...who perform a horrid musical number]].number.
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