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** @/SesameMalcolm99: Am I the only one bothered by Rainbow Dash deliberately putting a cloud over the CMC and making it rain on them? Like, I know they publicly embarrassed her and stuff, but that just strikes me as [[WouldHurtAChild child abuse]], which not to mention makes Rainbow look horrible.
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** @/SesameMalcolm99: Am I the only one bothered by Rainbow Dash deliberately putting a cloud over the CMC and making it rain on them? Like, I know they publicly embarrassed her and stuff, but that just strikes me as [[WouldHurtAChild child abuse]], which not to mention makes Rainbow look horrible.
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** Tropers/{{MsCC22}}: Rainbow Dash [[MinorInsultMeltdown (while in a harsh way) telling her parents about their childish behavior, reducing them to tears]]. While it was harsh of Dash to do that, you can't help but take her side in this. She is completely right in how her parents are too supportive to the point that they act [[ManChild very immature for their age]]. The thing is, I find Rainbow Dash to [[WackyParentSeriousChild to be more mature than her parents because when she cheers for her friends or others, she doesn't behave in such a way]]. I mean you can deliver a moral regarding loving your parents without ignoring their childish behavior.
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** @/DiscoGlacier: That was [[JerkassBall just plain mean]] of the other characters to [[LockedOutOfTheLoop lock Pinkie Pie out of the loop]], seeing [[HeroicBlueScreenOfDeath the emotional distress it was causing her]]. As much as I’d love a good surprise party, the secret should not be so heavily guarded that it convinces the recipient that they are unwanted. The [[HandWave excuse]] “I’d thought she’d be more excited [about the party]” doesn’t really work, as earlier in the episode, the mane cast looked as if they were fearing for their lives when they were defending the secret from an increasingly enraged Pinkie. Worse, [[NoSympathy all of the blame was put on Pinkie for how she felt]], rather than taking into consideration their adamant secret-keeping drove her to this point; a simple “We’re sorry for how you felt” would have worked just fine. If it had one redeeming trait, it did give Pinkie Pie the CharacterDevelopment she needed, but did so in a heart-wrenchingly frustrating way.

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** @/DiscoGlacier: That was [[JerkassBall just plain mean]] of the other characters to [[LockedOutOfTheLoop lock Pinkie Pie out of the loop]], seeing [[HeroicBlueScreenOfDeath the emotional distress it was causing her]]. As much as I’d I’d love a good surprise party, the secret should not be so heavily guarded that it convinces the recipient that they are unwanted. The [[HandWave excuse]] “I’d thought she’d be more excited [about the party]” doesn’t really work, as earlier in the episode, the mane cast looked as if they were fearing for their lives when they were defending the secret from an increasingly enraged Pinkie. Worse, [[NoSympathy all of the blame was put on Pinkie for how she felt]], rather than taking into consideration their adamant secret-keeping drove her to this point; a simple “We’re “We’re sorry for how you felt” felt” would have worked just fine. If it had one redeeming trait, it did give Pinkie Pie the CharacterDevelopment she needed, but did so in a heart-wrenchingly frustrating way.



** @/{{Hyperion 5}}: What really annoyed me about this episode is the way in which Pinkie Pie literally threw Twilight out of the shop after Twilight turned up offering to help her with the Cakes. Now, fair enough, Twilight was somewhat condescending to Pinkie, but so what? She clearly didn't mean to, and if I was thrown out (metaphorically) by my friends every time I unintentionally insulted them I'd have pretty much no friends. So basically, Twilight shows up, and volunteers to help Pinkie, something which Pinkie clearly needs, and which Twilight didn't have to do if she hadn't wanted to (remember in the first few episodes of Season 1 when she wanted to do as much as she could on her own without anypony else). And Pinkie's response? To blow an unintentional negative comment out of proportion, and kick Twilight out. If you are offered help when you need it, YOU TAKE IT, rather than trying to go it alone and risking disaster. They even could have put in AnAesop about how it's okay to ask for help when you need it (as they did back in Applebuck Season), but no, instead they just made Twilight out to be a jerk, Pinkie out to be irrational, and the whole episode suffered for it.

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** @/{{Hyperion 5}}: What really annoyed me about this episode is the way in which Pinkie Pie literally threw Twilight out of the shop after Twilight turned up offering to help her with the Cakes. Now, fair enough, Twilight was somewhat condescending to Pinkie, but so what? She clearly didn't mean to, and if I was thrown out (metaphorically) by my friends every time I unintentionally insulted them I'd have pretty much no friends. So basically, Twilight shows up, and volunteers to help Pinkie, something which Pinkie clearly needs, and which Twilight didn't have to do if she hadn't wanted to (remember in the first few episodes of Season 1 when she wanted to do as much as she could on her own without anypony else). And Pinkie's response? To blow an unintentional negative comment out of proportion, and kick Twilight out. If you are offered help when you need it, YOU TAKE IT, rather than trying to go it alone and risking disaster. They even could have put in AnAesop a lesson about how it's okay to ask for help when you need it (as they did back in Applebuck Season), but no, instead they just made Twilight out to be a jerk, Pinkie out to be irrational, and the whole episode suffered for it.



** @/{{Lilfut}}: My main issue with Hearth's Warming Eve was the pacing. It seemed very obvious to me that the writers were rushing for [[AnAesop the Aesop]]. In particular, why didn't we get to actually see the peaceful times before the blizzard? Why did they have exactly one summit before deciding to find new frontiers? This was made all the worse by the good elements of the episode -- the [[DeepImmersionGaming Deep Immersion Acting]], the exploring of the {{Verse}}, the SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic... Maybe it was ChristmasRushed?

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** @/{{Lilfut}}: My main issue with Hearth's Warming Eve was the pacing. It seemed very obvious to me that the writers were rushing for [[AnAesop the Aesop]].lesson. In particular, why didn't we get to actually see the peaceful times before the blizzard? Why did they have exactly one summit before deciding to find new frontiers? This was made all the worse by the good elements of the episode -- the [[DeepImmersionGaming Deep Immersion Acting]], the exploring of the {{Verse}}, the SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic... Maybe it was ChristmasRushed?



** @/{{WildKatGirl}}: To me, the [[AnAesop aesop]] of this episode seems a bit confused. On one hand, it seems to be saying 'be proud of your background and where you come from, and don't let people disrespect them' as Spike's pony background is mocked by the dragons. However, this can't be the case, as the entire dragon species is written off as being a bunch of cruel [[{{Jerkass}} jerkasses]], and it is shown Spike should not be proud of being a dragon. On the other hand, it seems to be saying 'your species/family/place you come from doesn't matter at all; you can be anything you want to be despite your background', as Spike is shown that it doesn't matter that he is a dragon, and he can still live as a pony if he prefers. However, this can't be the case either, as again, all dragons apart from Spike are tarred with the same brush, and it is shown that dragons cannot be who they want to be, and must be horrible people unless they completely abandon their species all together. In the end, the moral seems to be 'it doesn't matter who your family is, except it does if you were raised by ponies, as they are the epitome of perfection, while dragons are arseholes. You should defend and protect your pony family from mockery, but not your dragon one, because all dragons bar one (who has abandoned his species) are not worth your love and affection'. Overall, the entire episode comes across as a case of FantasticRacism favouring ponies over dragons. As someone who adores dragons, this treatment upsets me, and seems especially jarring in a programme about friendship and tolerance.

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** @/{{WildKatGirl}}: To me, the [[AnAesop aesop]] lesson of this episode seems a bit confused. On one hand, it seems to be saying 'be proud of your background and where you come from, and don't let people disrespect them' as Spike's pony background is mocked by the dragons. However, this can't be the case, as the entire dragon species is written off as being a bunch of cruel [[{{Jerkass}} jerkasses]], and it is shown Spike should not be proud of being a dragon. On the other hand, it seems to be saying 'your species/family/place you come from doesn't matter at all; you can be anything you want to be despite your background', as Spike is shown that it doesn't matter that he is a dragon, and he can still live as a pony if he prefers. However, this can't be the case either, as again, all dragons apart from Spike are tarred with the same brush, and it is shown that dragons cannot be who they want to be, and must be horrible people unless they completely abandon their species all together. In the end, the moral seems to be 'it doesn't matter who your family is, except it does if you were raised by ponies, as they are the epitome of perfection, while dragons are arseholes. You should defend and protect your pony family from mockery, but not your dragon one, because all dragons bar one (who has abandoned his species) are not worth your love and affection'. Overall, the entire episode comes across as a case of FantasticRacism favouring ponies over dragons. As someone who adores dragons, this treatment upsets me, and seems especially jarring in a programme about friendship and tolerance.
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** Tropers/{{KoopaKid17}} While Rarity is my favorite of the Mane Six, her pre-CharacterDevelopment in Season 1 was cringe-worthy. This is best exemplified in "Dragonshy" with her failed attempt to lure the dragon out of the cave. Rarity enters the cave and starts flirting with the dragon, encouraging him to get out there and show off his scales. For a moment, it looks like [[HopeSpot Rarity is going to be the hero]] but as she is doing this, we find out just why she is in the dragon's den in the first place. She clearly wants the [[DragonHoard dragon's treasures]] [[ItsAllAboutMe all to herself and tries some of it on to impress the dragon. Of course, her greed causes her downfall when she foolishly tells the dragon that she will [[BerserkButton guard his hoard while he's gone]]. If that isn't bad enough, after she gets chased out of the cave, Rarity curses that she was this close to [[SkewedPriorities obtaining the treasures]]. She then gets a [[NiceJobBreakingItHero well-deserved talking to by Twilight Sparkle]] but she [[AngstWhatAngst shrugs that off as well]]. All this from the Element of Generosity, no less. Thankfully, she wasn't this bad in later seasons.

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** Tropers/{{KoopaKid17}} While Rarity is my favorite of the Mane Six, her pre-CharacterDevelopment in Season 1 was cringe-worthy. This is best exemplified in "Dragonshy" with her failed attempt to lure the dragon out of the cave. Rarity enters the cave and starts flirting with the dragon, encouraging him to get out there and show off his scales. For a moment, it looks like [[HopeSpot Rarity is going to be the hero]] but as she is doing this, we find out just why she is in the dragon's den in the first place. She clearly wants the [[DragonHoard dragon's treasures]] [[ItsAllAboutMe all to herself and tries some of it on to impress the dragon.dragon]]. Of course, her greed causes her downfall when she foolishly tells the dragon that she will [[BerserkButton guard his hoard while he's gone]]. If that isn't bad enough, after she gets chased out of the cave, Rarity curses that she was this close to [[SkewedPriorities obtaining the treasures]]. She then gets a [[NiceJobBreakingItHero well-deserved talking to by Twilight Sparkle]] but she [[AngstWhatAngst shrugs that off as well]]. All this from the Element of Generosity, no less. Thankfully, she wasn't this bad in later seasons.
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** Tropers/{{KoopaKid17}} While Rarity is my favorite of the Mane Six, her failed attempt to lure the dragon out of the cave was rock-bottom not just for her but for the entire show. Rarity enters the cave and starts flirting with the dragon, encouraging him to get out there and show off his scales. For a moment, it looks like [[HopeSpot Rarity is going to be the hero]] but as she is doing this, we find out just why she is in the dragon's den in the first place. She clearly wants the [[DragonHoard dragon's treasures]] [[ItsAllAboutMe all to herself]] and even [[TooDumbToLive tries some of it on to impress the dragon]]. Of course, her greed causes her downfall when she foolishly tells the dragon that she will [[BerserkButton guard his hoard while he's gone]]. If that wasn't bad enough, after she gets chased out of the cave, Rarity curses that she was this close to [[SkewedPriorities obtaining the treasures]]. She then gets a [[NiceJobBreakingItHero well-deserved talking to by Twilight Sparkle]] but even [[AngstWhatAngst shrugs that off as well]]. All this from the Element of Generosity, no less.

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** Tropers/{{KoopaKid17}} While Rarity is my favorite of the Mane Six, her pre-CharacterDevelopment in Season 1 was cringe-worthy. This is best exemplified in "Dragonshy" with her failed attempt to lure the dragon out of the cave was rock-bottom not just for her but for the entire show.cave. Rarity enters the cave and starts flirting with the dragon, encouraging him to get out there and show off his scales. For a moment, it looks like [[HopeSpot Rarity is going to be the hero]] but as she is doing this, we find out just why she is in the dragon's den in the first place. She clearly wants the [[DragonHoard dragon's treasures]] [[ItsAllAboutMe all to herself]] herself and even [[TooDumbToLive tries some of it on to impress the dragon]].dragon. Of course, her greed causes her downfall when she foolishly tells the dragon that she will [[BerserkButton guard his hoard while he's gone]]. If that wasn't isn't bad enough, after she gets chased out of the cave, Rarity curses that she was this close to [[SkewedPriorities obtaining the treasures]]. She then gets a [[NiceJobBreakingItHero well-deserved talking to by Twilight Sparkle]] but even she [[AngstWhatAngst shrugs that off as well]]. All this from the Element of Generosity, no less. Thankfully, she wasn't this bad in later seasons.

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