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21st Jun '17 1:58:59 AM Sammettik
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* [=SenorCornholio=]: My personal [=DMoS=] is the {{Retcon}} to the Baby Metroid's transport to the Galactic Federation. It was set up in VideoGame/MetroidIIReturnOfSamus, and made into the catalyst for VideoGame/SuperMetroid's events; Samus took it to the scientists at Ceres Station so they could work on it to help the galaxy, which the scientists there were clearly thankful for. Then Samus leaves, [[ForegoneConclusion Ridley kills everyone there and takes the Metroid, start game]]. Other M's take on this, on the other hand, is that it was "a clear and blatant violation of protocol." Okay, [[FlatWhat what]]? So a decision that could impact millions of lives across the galaxy wasn't even legal because nobody gave her the option to do that? Um...since when? I'd merely facepalm in disgust if it weren't for the ending, where The Colonel ([[NoNameGiven who doesn't have a name, by the way]]) [[UngratefulBastard uses said event as an excuse for Samus to leave.]] You know, it's one thing to [[BadassDecay make a badass character look like a scared little girl,]] but it's quite another to take a large, steaming dump all over the events of VideoGame/SuperMetroid for the sake of your story, especially if it involves victimizing Samus for basically doing her job. If there was any doubt that VideoGame/MetroidOtherM was a bastardization of Samus and the entire ''Metroid'' franchise even ''after'' [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic the motherhood symbolism]], [[{{Chickification}} the Ridley scene]], [[DesignatedHero Adam's]] [[{{Glurge}} sacrifice]], [[PoliceAreUseless the Galactic Federation's idiocy]], [[AntiClimaxBoss the fight against MB]], and [[ShaggyDogStory Samus' overall uselessness to the plot]], then this to me removed all of those doubts.

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* [=SenorCornholio=]: My personal [=DMoS=] is the {{Retcon}} to the Baby Metroid's transport to the Galactic Federation. It was set up in VideoGame/MetroidIIReturnOfSamus, and made into the catalyst for VideoGame/SuperMetroid's events; Samus took it to the scientists at Ceres Station so they could work on it to help the galaxy, which the scientists there were clearly thankful for. Then Samus leaves, [[ForegoneConclusion Ridley kills everyone there and takes the Metroid, start game]]. Other M's take on this, on the other hand, is that it was "a clear and blatant violation of protocol." Okay, [[FlatWhat what]]? So a decision that could impact millions of lives across the galaxy wasn't even legal because nobody gave her the option to do that? Um...since when? I'd merely facepalm in disgust if it weren't for the ending, where The Colonel ([[NoNameGiven who doesn't have a name, by the way]]) [[UngratefulBastard uses said event as an excuse for Samus to leave.]] You know, it's one thing to [[BadassDecay make a badass character look like a scared little girl,]] but it's quite another to take a large, steaming dump all over the events of VideoGame/SuperMetroid for the sake of your story, especially if it involves victimizing Samus for basically doing her job. If there was any doubt that VideoGame/MetroidOtherM was a bastardization of Samus and the entire ''Metroid'' franchise even ''after'' after [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic the motherhood symbolism]], [[{{Chickification}} the Ridley scene]], [[DesignatedHero Adam's]] [[{{Glurge}} sacrifice]], [[PoliceAreUseless the Galactic Federation's idiocy]], [[AntiClimaxBoss the fight against MB]], and [[ShaggyDogStory Samus' overall uselessness to the plot]], then this to me removed all of those doubts.
24th Mar '17 3:16:31 PM SenorCornholio
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* [=Tropers/{{SenorCornholio}}]=: My personal [=DMoS=] is the {{Retcon}} to the Baby Metroid's transport to the Galactic Federation. It was set up in VideoGame/MetroidIIReturnOfSamus, and made into the catalyst for VideoGame/SuperMetroid's events; Samus took it to the scientists at Ceres Station so they could work on it to help the galaxy, which the scientists there were clearly thankful for. Then Samus leaves, [[ForegoneConclusion Ridley kills everyone there and takes the Metroid, start game]]. Other M's take on this, on the other hand, is that it was "a clear and blatant violation of protocol." Okay, [[FlatWhat what]]? So a decision that could impact millions of lives across the galaxy wasn't even legal because nobody gave her the option to do that? Um...since when? I'd merely facepalm in disgust if it weren't for the ending, where The Colonel ([[NoNameGiven who doesn't have a name, by the way]]) [[UngratefulBastard uses said event as an excuse for Samus to leave.]] You know, it's one thing to [[BadassDecay make a badass character look like a scared little girl,]] but it's quite another to take a large, steaming dump all over the events of VideoGame/SuperMetroid for the sake of your story, especially if it involves victimizing Samus for basically doing her job. If there was any doubt that VideoGame/MetroidOtherM was a bastardization of Samus and the entire ''Metroid'' franchise even ''after'' [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic the motherhood symbolism]], [[{{Chickification}} the Ridley scene]], [[DesignatedHero Adam's]] [[{{Glurge}} sacrifice]], [[PoliceAreUseless the Galactic Federation's idiocy]], [[AntiClimaxBoss the fight against MB]], and [[ShaggyDogStory Samus' overall uselessness to the plot]], then this to me removed all of those doubts.

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* [=Tropers/{{SenorCornholio}}]=: [=SenorCornholio=]: My personal [=DMoS=] is the {{Retcon}} to the Baby Metroid's transport to the Galactic Federation. It was set up in VideoGame/MetroidIIReturnOfSamus, and made into the catalyst for VideoGame/SuperMetroid's events; Samus took it to the scientists at Ceres Station so they could work on it to help the galaxy, which the scientists there were clearly thankful for. Then Samus leaves, [[ForegoneConclusion Ridley kills everyone there and takes the Metroid, start game]]. Other M's take on this, on the other hand, is that it was "a clear and blatant violation of protocol." Okay, [[FlatWhat what]]? So a decision that could impact millions of lives across the galaxy wasn't even legal because nobody gave her the option to do that? Um...since when? I'd merely facepalm in disgust if it weren't for the ending, where The Colonel ([[NoNameGiven who doesn't have a name, by the way]]) [[UngratefulBastard uses said event as an excuse for Samus to leave.]] You know, it's one thing to [[BadassDecay make a badass character look like a scared little girl,]] but it's quite another to take a large, steaming dump all over the events of VideoGame/SuperMetroid for the sake of your story, especially if it involves victimizing Samus for basically doing her job. If there was any doubt that VideoGame/MetroidOtherM was a bastardization of Samus and the entire ''Metroid'' franchise even ''after'' [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic the motherhood symbolism]], [[{{Chickification}} the Ridley scene]], [[DesignatedHero Adam's]] [[{{Glurge}} sacrifice]], [[PoliceAreUseless the Galactic Federation's idiocy]], [[AntiClimaxBoss the fight against MB]], and [[ShaggyDogStory Samus' overall uselessness to the plot]], then this to me removed all of those doubts.
24th Mar '17 3:16:12 PM SenorCornholio
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* Tropers/{{SenorCornholio}}: My personal [=DMoS=] is the {{Retcon}} to the Baby Metroid's transport to the Galactic Federation. It was set up in VideoGame/MetroidIIReturnOfSamus, and made into the catalyst for VideoGame/SuperMetroid's events; Samus took it to the scientists at Ceres Station so they could work on it to help the galaxy, which the scientists there were clearly thankful for. Then Samus leaves, [[ForegoneConclusion Ridley kills everyone there and takes the Metroid, start game]]. Other M's take on this, on the other hand, is that it was "a clear and blatant violation of protocol." Okay, [[FlatWhat what]]? So a decision that could impact millions of lives across the galaxy wasn't even legal because nobody gave her the option to do that? Um...since when? I'd merely facepalm in disgust if it weren't for the ending, where The Colonel ([[NoNameGiven who doesn't have a name, by the way]]) [[UngratefulBastard uses said event as an excuse for Samus to leave.]] You know, it's one thing to [[BadassDecay make a badass character look like a scared little girl,]] but it's quite another to take a large, steaming dump all over the events of VideoGame/SuperMetroid for the sake of your story, especially if it involves victimizing Samus for basically doing her job. If there was any doubt that VideoGame/MetroidOtherM was a bastardization of Samus and the entire ''Metroid'' franchise even ''after'' [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic the motherhood symbolism]], [[{{Chickification}} the Ridley scene]], [[DesignatedHero Adam's]] [[{{Glurge}} sacrifice]], [[PoliceAreUseless the Galactic Federation's idiocy]], [[AntiClimaxBoss the fight against MB]], and [[ShaggyDogStory Samus' overall uselessness to the plot]], then this to me removed all of those doubts.

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* Tropers/{{SenorCornholio}}: [=Tropers/{{SenorCornholio}}]=: My personal [=DMoS=] is the {{Retcon}} to the Baby Metroid's transport to the Galactic Federation. It was set up in VideoGame/MetroidIIReturnOfSamus, and made into the catalyst for VideoGame/SuperMetroid's events; Samus took it to the scientists at Ceres Station so they could work on it to help the galaxy, which the scientists there were clearly thankful for. Then Samus leaves, [[ForegoneConclusion Ridley kills everyone there and takes the Metroid, start game]]. Other M's take on this, on the other hand, is that it was "a clear and blatant violation of protocol." Okay, [[FlatWhat what]]? So a decision that could impact millions of lives across the galaxy wasn't even legal because nobody gave her the option to do that? Um...since when? I'd merely facepalm in disgust if it weren't for the ending, where The Colonel ([[NoNameGiven who doesn't have a name, by the way]]) [[UngratefulBastard uses said event as an excuse for Samus to leave.]] You know, it's one thing to [[BadassDecay make a badass character look like a scared little girl,]] but it's quite another to take a large, steaming dump all over the events of VideoGame/SuperMetroid for the sake of your story, especially if it involves victimizing Samus for basically doing her job. If there was any doubt that VideoGame/MetroidOtherM was a bastardization of Samus and the entire ''Metroid'' franchise even ''after'' [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic the motherhood symbolism]], [[{{Chickification}} the Ridley scene]], [[DesignatedHero Adam's]] [[{{Glurge}} sacrifice]], [[PoliceAreUseless the Galactic Federation's idiocy]], [[AntiClimaxBoss the fight against MB]], and [[ShaggyDogStory Samus' overall uselessness to the plot]], then this to me removed all of those doubts.
24th Mar '17 3:15:31 PM SenorCornholio
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* Tropers/{{SenorCornholio}}: My personal [=DMoS=] is the {{Retcon}} to the Baby Metroid's transport to the Galactic Federation. It was set up in VideoGame/MetroidIIReturnOfSamus, and made into the catalyst for VideoGame/SuperMetroid's events; Samus took it to the scientists at Ceres Station so they could work on it to help the galaxy, which the scientists there were clearly thankful for. Then Samus leaves, [[ForegoneConclusion Ridley kills everyone there and takes the Metroid, start game]]. Other M's take on this, on the other hand, is that it was "a clear and blatant violation of protocol." Okay, [[FlatWhat what]]? I'd merely facepalm if it weren't for the ending, where The Colonel ([[NoNameGiven who doesn't have a name, by the way]]) [[UngratefulBastard uses said event as an excuse for Samus to leave.]] You know, it's one thing to [[BadassDecay make a badass character look like a scared little girl,]] but it's quite another to take a large, steaming dump all over the events of VideoGame/SuperMetroid for the sake of your story, especially if it involves victimizing Samus for basically doing her job. If there was any doubt that VideoGame/MetroidOtherM was a bastardization of Samus and the entire ''Metroid'' franchise even ''after'' [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic the motherhood symbolism]], [[{{Chickification}} the Ridley scene]], [[DesignatedHero Adam's]] [[{{Glurge}} sacrifice]], [[PoliceAreUseless the Galactic Federation's idiocy]], [[AntiClimaxBoss the fight against MB]], and [[ShaggyDogStory Samus' overall uselessness to the plot]], then this to me removed all of those doubts.

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* Tropers/{{SenorCornholio}}: My personal [=DMoS=] is the {{Retcon}} to the Baby Metroid's transport to the Galactic Federation. It was set up in VideoGame/MetroidIIReturnOfSamus, and made into the catalyst for VideoGame/SuperMetroid's events; Samus took it to the scientists at Ceres Station so they could work on it to help the galaxy, which the scientists there were clearly thankful for. Then Samus leaves, [[ForegoneConclusion Ridley kills everyone there and takes the Metroid, start game]]. Other M's take on this, on the other hand, is that it was "a clear and blatant violation of protocol." Okay, [[FlatWhat what]]? So a decision that could impact millions of lives across the galaxy wasn't even legal because nobody gave her the option to do that? Um...since when? I'd merely facepalm in disgust if it weren't for the ending, where The Colonel ([[NoNameGiven who doesn't have a name, by the way]]) [[UngratefulBastard uses said event as an excuse for Samus to leave.]] You know, it's one thing to [[BadassDecay make a badass character look like a scared little girl,]] but it's quite another to take a large, steaming dump all over the events of VideoGame/SuperMetroid for the sake of your story, especially if it involves victimizing Samus for basically doing her job. If there was any doubt that VideoGame/MetroidOtherM was a bastardization of Samus and the entire ''Metroid'' franchise even ''after'' [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic the motherhood symbolism]], [[{{Chickification}} the Ridley scene]], [[DesignatedHero Adam's]] [[{{Glurge}} sacrifice]], [[PoliceAreUseless the Galactic Federation's idiocy]], [[AntiClimaxBoss the fight against MB]], and [[ShaggyDogStory Samus' overall uselessness to the plot]], then this to me removed all of those doubts.
19th Mar '17 12:59:24 PM SenorCornholio
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* Tropers/{{SenorCornholio}}: My personal [=DMoS=] is the {{Retcon}} to the Baby Metroid's transport to the Galactic Federation. It was set up in VideoGame/MetroidIIReturnOfSamus, and made into the catalyst for VideoGame/SuperMetroid's events; Samus took it to the scientists at Ceres Station so they could work on it to help the galaxy, which the scientists there were clearly thankful for. Then Samus leaves, [[ForegoneConclusion Ridley kills everyone there and takes the Metroid, start game]]. Other M's take on this, on the other hand, is that it was "a clear and blatant violation of protocol." Okay, [[FlatWhat what]]? I'd merely facepalm if it weren't for the ending, where The Colonel ([[NoNameGiven who doesn't have a name, by the way]]) [[UngratefulBastard uses said event as an excuse for Samus to leave.]] You know, it's one thing to [[BadassDecay make a badass character look like a scared little girl,]] but it's quite another to take a large, steaming dump all over the events of VideoGame/SuperMetroid for the sake of your story, especially if it involves victimizing Samus for basically doing her job. If there was any doubt that VideoGame/MetroidOtherM was a bastardization of Samus and the entire ''Metroid'' franchise even ''after'' [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic the motherhood symbolism]], [[{{Chickification}} the Ridley scene]], [[DesignatedHero Adam's]] [[{{Glurge}} sacrifice]], [[PoliceAreUseless the Galactic Federation's idiocy]], and [[ShaggyDogStory Samus' overall uselessness to the plot]], then this to me removed all of those doubts.

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* Tropers/{{SenorCornholio}}: My personal [=DMoS=] is the {{Retcon}} to the Baby Metroid's transport to the Galactic Federation. It was set up in VideoGame/MetroidIIReturnOfSamus, and made into the catalyst for VideoGame/SuperMetroid's events; Samus took it to the scientists at Ceres Station so they could work on it to help the galaxy, which the scientists there were clearly thankful for. Then Samus leaves, [[ForegoneConclusion Ridley kills everyone there and takes the Metroid, start game]]. Other M's take on this, on the other hand, is that it was "a clear and blatant violation of protocol." Okay, [[FlatWhat what]]? I'd merely facepalm if it weren't for the ending, where The Colonel ([[NoNameGiven who doesn't have a name, by the way]]) [[UngratefulBastard uses said event as an excuse for Samus to leave.]] You know, it's one thing to [[BadassDecay make a badass character look like a scared little girl,]] but it's quite another to take a large, steaming dump all over the events of VideoGame/SuperMetroid for the sake of your story, especially if it involves victimizing Samus for basically doing her job. If there was any doubt that VideoGame/MetroidOtherM was a bastardization of Samus and the entire ''Metroid'' franchise even ''after'' [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic the motherhood symbolism]], [[{{Chickification}} the Ridley scene]], [[DesignatedHero Adam's]] [[{{Glurge}} sacrifice]], [[PoliceAreUseless the Galactic Federation's idiocy]], [[AntiClimaxBoss the fight against MB]], and [[ShaggyDogStory Samus' overall uselessness to the plot]], then this to me removed all of those doubts.
19th Mar '17 12:57:07 PM SenorCornholio
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* Tropers/{{SenorCornholio}}: My personal DMoS is the deal with the Baby Metroid's transport to the Galactic Federation. It was set up in Metroid II, and made into the catalyst for ''Super Metroid'''s events; on top of that, the scientists there were thankful for Samus, and made some discoveries that could help out the galaxy. Other M's take on this is that it was "a clear and blatant violation of protocol." Okay, what? I'd merely facepalm if it weren't for the ending, where The Colonel (who doesn't have a name, by the way) [[UngratefulBastard uses said event as an excuse for Samus to leave.]] You know, it's one thing to [[BadassDecay make a badass character look like a scared little girl,]] but it's quite another to take a large, steaming dump all over the events of ''Super Metroid'' for the sake of your story, especially if it involves victimizing Samus for basically doing her job!

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* Tropers/{{SenorCornholio}}: My personal DMoS [=DMoS=] is the deal with {{Retcon}} to the Baby Metroid's transport to the Galactic Federation. It was set up in Metroid II, VideoGame/MetroidIIReturnOfSamus, and made into the catalyst for ''Super Metroid'''s VideoGame/SuperMetroid's events; Samus took it to the scientists at Ceres Station so they could work on top of that, it to help the galaxy, which the scientists there were clearly thankful for Samus, for. Then Samus leaves, [[ForegoneConclusion Ridley kills everyone there and made some discoveries that could help out takes the galaxy. Metroid, start game]]. Other M's take on this this, on the other hand, is that it was "a clear and blatant violation of protocol." Okay, what? [[FlatWhat what]]? I'd merely facepalm if it weren't for the ending, where The Colonel (who ([[NoNameGiven who doesn't have a name, by the way) way]]) [[UngratefulBastard uses said event as an excuse for Samus to leave.]] You know, it's one thing to [[BadassDecay make a badass character look like a scared little girl,]] but it's quite another to take a large, steaming dump all over the events of ''Super Metroid'' VideoGame/SuperMetroid for the sake of your story, especially if it involves victimizing Samus for basically doing her job!job. If there was any doubt that VideoGame/MetroidOtherM was a bastardization of Samus and the entire ''Metroid'' franchise even ''after'' [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic the motherhood symbolism]], [[{{Chickification}} the Ridley scene]], [[DesignatedHero Adam's]] [[{{Glurge}} sacrifice]], [[PoliceAreUseless the Galactic Federation's idiocy]], and [[ShaggyDogStory Samus' overall uselessness to the plot]], then this to me removed all of those doubts.
9th Aug '16 1:30:22 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* Tropers/IndirectActiveTransport: The flashback explaining the origin of Adam's catchphrase. It can be argued there are worse scenes, individually, but the grand scope is more important. It directly contradicts Fusion, where Samus states anyone else saying "lady" would sound sarcastic but Adam made it sound respectful. Yet Other M shows him saying it with sarcasm and disdain. More, it shows Samus in the military under Adam's command even though the manga already showed this could never have happened the way Other M tells it. Samus was a police officer engaged in {{inter service rivalry}} with the military and one of the few people who was not glad-handing Adam every time he showed up, unafraid to tell him off. Then Samus needlessly beats herself up, it is not her fault her commanding officer is unprofessional. It should not be overlooked that Samus is portrayed as a twerp when she's supposed to be huge and {{shrouded in myth}} either. This scene is the preview for most of Other M's plotting. First, it contradicts what was already established with reckless abandon. While [[BagOfSpilling the very concept]] of Metroid sequels lend themselves to {{plot hole}}s, this is the first time a game [[TheyJustDidntCare so blindly dug such holes]] in ways so hard to [[{{Handwave}} wave over]]. Secondly it starts an annoying trend of Samus beating herself up for small slights, which makes even Fusion and Zero Mission's monologs harder to read afterwards. Self deprecation was forgettable before, now it's a wonder if this folk hero has any self esteem at all. Not that you would know Samus is a living legend if you only played Other M. Which brings us to strike three, Samus is puny and easily bullied when she has been consistently shown to be tall and awe inspiring up until now, even in the manga. This is the bounty hunter widely believed to be a male cyborg? She spends so much time unarmored, has such a faint frame and a visor that exposes her face down to the mouth! That could never happen. This is the warrior people thought could destroy planets? Yet now that she has actually done so she gets less respect than when it was an unfounded rumor? Metroid has other narrative flaws, Other M in particular, but this is where they all became highlighted, where it became impossible to look at the same way again.

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* Tropers/IndirectActiveTransport: The flashback explaining the origin of Adam's catchphrase. It can be argued there are worse scenes, individually, but the grand scope is more important. It directly contradicts Fusion, where Samus states anyone else saying "lady" would sound sarcastic but Adam made it sound respectful. Yet Other M shows him saying it with sarcasm and disdain. More, it shows Samus in the military under Adam's command even though the manga already showed this could never have happened the way Other M tells it. Samus was a police officer engaged in {{inter service rivalry}} with the military and one of the few people who was not glad-handing Adam every time he showed up, unafraid to tell him off. Then Samus needlessly beats herself up, it is not her fault her commanding officer is unprofessional. It should not be overlooked that Samus is portrayed as a twerp when she's supposed to be huge and {{shrouded in myth}} either. This scene is the preview for most of Other M's plotting. First, it contradicts what was already established with reckless abandon. While [[BagOfSpilling the very concept]] of Metroid sequels lend themselves to {{plot hole}}s, this is the first time a game [[TheyJustDidntCare so blindly dug such holes]] holes in ways so hard to [[{{Handwave}} wave over]]. Secondly it starts an annoying trend of Samus beating herself up for small slights, which makes even Fusion and Zero Mission's monologs harder to read afterwards. Self deprecation was forgettable before, now it's a wonder if this folk hero has any self esteem at all. Not that you would know Samus is a living legend if you only played Other M. Which brings us to strike three, Samus is puny and easily bullied when she has been consistently shown to be tall and awe inspiring up until now, even in the manga. This is the bounty hunter widely believed to be a male cyborg? She spends so much time unarmored, has such a faint frame and a visor that exposes her face down to the mouth! That could never happen. This is the warrior people thought could destroy planets? Yet now that she has actually done so she gets less respect than when it was an unfounded rumor? Metroid has other narrative flaws, Other M in particular, but this is where they all became highlighted, where it became impossible to look at the same way again.
15th Jun '16 8:32:08 AM Berrenta
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9th Jun '16 9:16:24 PM Josef5678
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11th Feb '16 8:28:03 PM CerotechOmega
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Despite the raw catharsis gunning down hordes of SpacePirates can provide, Samus has been through enough shit to [[INeedAFreakingDrink warrant a drink or two]]. [[DarthWiki/DethroningMomentOfSuck These]] are the moments you can hardly blame her.
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