History DethroningMoment / Literature

20th Apr '18 1:29:37 PM SpaceHunterDrakeRedcrest
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** Tropers/SpaceHunterDrakeRedcrest: I really love this series, but ''The Getaway'' was easily the worst in the series, even worse than the already miserable ''The Long Haul''. Easily the worst scene in the book is when Greg finds a spider in the hotel bathroom. He explains that due to a horrifying experience with a spider egg as a child, he's [[WhyDidItHaveToBeSnakes deadly afraid of spiders]]. Fair enough, I'm also arachnophobic. But what happens to the spider just seems like unnecessary animal cruelty. First, Greg drops a glass on it to trap it. Then when it gets free, Greg tries trapping it again with a food cover, [[AnArmAndALeg cutting off one of its legs]]. The spider then starts crazily running around on the ground, because, you know, ''it lost its leg.'' It then crawls over to the toilet seat, so Greg slams the lid shut and the room service guy ([[FridgeLogic who somehow got in the room, in spite of an earlier conversation]]) flushes the spider down the toilet. [[spoiler: Except it doesn't, because Greg's dad finds it and hits it with the bathrobe.]] This isn't BlackComedyAnimalCruelty; this is just animal cruelty. The fact it's a spider doesn't make it better; even if I'm afraid of them, they're still living creatures. It's sad when [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy even arachnids don't survive this story unscathed]].
2nd Apr '18 5:39:59 AM MsCC93
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* Tropers/MsCC93: A moment that infuriated me from the 6th book of ''{{Literature}}/CaptainUnderpants'' (Captain Underpants and the Big Bad Battle of the Bionic Booger Boy Part 1) was when George & Harold started a "Squishy Fad" which involved putting ketchup packs under the toilet seats and it would mess up the clothing of people who sat on the toilet. Because it became so popular, Ms. Ribble decided to prank Mr. Krupp. Mr. Krupp then proceeded to blame George & Harold (I can see why Mr. Krupp would think they did it, considering the pranks the two boys always pull and their reputation as troublemakers). The kicker, however was that Ms. Ribble and the other fourth graders all said that George and Harold weren't responsible for the prank that resulted in the students' (save the 4th graders) clothes. You would think that Mr. Krupp would believe them, considering how the teachers usually never come to George & Harold's defense. Bot no, he stubbornly believes that it's George & Harold even when the evidence is in his face! Then the bratty snitch Melvin Sneedly tattles on them for coming up with the fad, landing the two boys in detention. True George & Harold came up with the fad, but they weren't responsible for everybody messing up their clothes after the pranks. My god this makes me hate Melvin & Mr. Krupp even more.

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* Tropers/MsCC93: A moment that infuriated me from the 6th book of ''{{Literature}}/CaptainUnderpants'' (Captain Underpants and the Big Bad Battle of the Bionic Booger Boy Part 1) was when George & Harold started a "Squishy Fad" which involved putting ketchup packs under the toilet seats and it would mess up the clothing of people who sat on the toilet. Because it became so popular, Ms. Ribble decided to prank Mr. Krupp. Mr. Krupp then proceeded to blame George & Harold (I can see why Mr. Krupp would think they did it, considering the pranks the two boys always pull and their reputation as troublemakers). The kicker, however was that Ms. Ribble and the other fourth graders all said that George and Harold weren't responsible for the prank that resulted in the students' (save the 4th graders) clothes. You would think that Mr. Krupp would believe them, considering how the teachers usually never come to George & Harold's defense. Bot no, he stubbornly believes that it's George & Harold even when the evidence is in his face! Then the bratty snitch Melvin Sneedly tattles on them for coming up with the fad, landing the two boys in detention. True George & Harold came up with the fad, but they weren't responsible for everybody messing up their clothes after the pranks. My god this makes me hate Melvin & Another sad thing is that in book 3, Mr. Krupp even more.went as far as to refuse to punish George and Harold for tricking the lunch ladies into baking cupcakes with vinegar and baking soda without evidence when the lunch ladies complained about the duo's actions. He only punished them because the lunch ladies quit their jobs (the punishment was actually lenient and well deserved ). In this book however, he just dumps his punishment standards out the window. [[NotMeThisTime he just punishes them despite them not playing any pranks]]. This is why I liked Mr. Krupp better in the movie, because he at least gave the boys lenient punishments despite him being a ChildHater.
30th Mar '18 5:28:15 AM MsCC93
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* Tropers/MsCC93: A moment that infuriated me from the 6th book of ''{{Literature}}/CaptainUnderpants'' (Captain Underpants and the Big Bad Battle of the Bionic Booger Boy Part 1) was when George & Harold started a "Squishy Fad" which involved putting ketchup packs under the toilet seats and it would mess up the clothing of people who sat on the toilet. Because it became so popular, Ms. Ribble decided to prank Mr. Krupp. Mr. Krupp then proceeded to blame George & Harold (It's understandable as to why Mr. Krupp would think they did it, considering the pranks the two boys always pull). The kicker, however was that Ms. Ribble and the other fourth graders all said that George and Harold weren't responsible for the prank that resulted in the students' (save the 4th graders) clothes. You would think that Mr. Krupp would believe them, considering how the teachers usually never come to George & Harold's defense. Bot no, he stubbornly believes that it's George & Harold even when the evidence is in his face! Then the bratty snitch Melvin Sneedly tattles on them for coming up with the fad, landing the two boys in detention. True George & Harold came up with the fad, but they weren't responsible for everybody messing up their clothes after the pranks. My god this makes me hate Melvin & Mr. Krupp even more.

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* Tropers/MsCC93: A moment that infuriated me from the 6th book of ''{{Literature}}/CaptainUnderpants'' (Captain Underpants and the Big Bad Battle of the Bionic Booger Boy Part 1) was when George & Harold started a "Squishy Fad" which involved putting ketchup packs under the toilet seats and it would mess up the clothing of people who sat on the toilet. Because it became so popular, Ms. Ribble decided to prank Mr. Krupp. Mr. Krupp then proceeded to blame George & Harold (It's understandable as to (I can see why Mr. Krupp would think they did it, considering the pranks the two boys always pull).pull and their reputation as troublemakers). The kicker, however was that Ms. Ribble and the other fourth graders all said that George and Harold weren't responsible for the prank that resulted in the students' (save the 4th graders) clothes. You would think that Mr. Krupp would believe them, considering how the teachers usually never come to George & Harold's defense. Bot no, he stubbornly believes that it's George & Harold even when the evidence is in his face! Then the bratty snitch Melvin Sneedly tattles on them for coming up with the fad, landing the two boys in detention. True George & Harold came up with the fad, but they weren't responsible for everybody messing up their clothes after the pranks. My god this makes me hate Melvin & Mr. Krupp even more.
11th Mar '18 6:44:53 AM Wildstar93
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** Tropes/{{Wildstar93}}: To me, the bonus scene in ''Shattered Sky'', in Dovewing's point of view once more. Basically, Purdy dies from age-related heart problems, and the Clan mourns for him. That's pretty heartbreaking. But then Bumblestripe comes up and tells Dovewing right up that he wants to get with her, and she can have kits in the near future. This part reeks of three big reasons. First, I thought the whole Dovewing/Tigerheart/Bumblestripe relationship was put to rest in ''Bramblestar's Storm''? Why bring it back up? And second, they bring it back up at a time like this? During a funeral? And third, they try to keep Bumblestripe as this NiceGuy who's getting over the breakup, but having Bumblestripe say this during Purdy's funeral is far from InnocentlyInsensitive. The rest of ''A Vision Of Shadows'' is pretty good, but this bonus scene in an otherwise good book left a rather sour taste in my mouth.

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** Tropes/{{Wildstar93}}: To me, It was formerly the bonus scene in ''Shattered Sky'', in Dovewing's point of view once more. Basically, Purdy dies from age-related heart problems, and Sky'' for me, but I'll go with the Clan mourns for him. That's pretty heartbreaking. But then Bumblestripe comes up and tells Dovewing right up ending of Moth Flight's Vision'', of how the [[BuffySpeak medicine-cats-not-having-kits thing]] came to be. After giving her own kits away to the other Clans, Moth Flight decides that he wants to get with her, and she can no medicine cat should ever have kits in because they distract the near future. medicine cat from their duty. She even makes Acorn Fur, who had wanted to be a mother, give up her dream and take the medicine cat oath. This part reeks is in spite of three big reasons. First, I thought the whole Dovewing/Tigerheart/Bumblestripe relationship was put to rest in ''Bramblestar's Storm''? Why bring it back up? And second, they bring it back up at a time like this? During a funeral? And third, they try to keep Bumblestripe as this NiceGuy who's getting over the breakup, but having Bumblestripe say this during Purdy's funeral is far from InnocentlyInsensitive. The rest of ''A Vision Of Shadows'' is pretty good, but this bonus scene in an otherwise good book left other cats around her who can help her look after the kits and Moth Flight being a rather sour taste in my mouth.first-time mother. Plus, the narration makes it seem like Moth Flight had the best idea when, really, it just makes her idea seem like a bad one and makes her seem like a hypocrite.
5th Mar '18 5:47:05 AM pgj1997
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* {{Tropers/Pgj1997}}: [=PrimaGames=] has had their fair share of blunders when it comes to their strategy guides, but there's one incident I'll never forgive them for. See, when the NES Classic Edition launched, they released a special strategy guide called "Playing with Power: Nintendo NES Classics". The book is a massive throwback to gaming strategy guides at the time, with the page layouts drawing clear inspiration from ''Magazine/NintendoPower''. However, there's one major flaw with this book, and I don't know how anyone didn't manage to catch it. In the section for ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZelda'' there's a section that reads, quote "Here is a complete map of the overworld. It is made up of 128 screens. You have to climb mountains, brave monster-filled forests, cross rivers and lakes, and even a haunted cemetary in order to find all the Triforce fragments and save Zelda". [[https://gameidealist.com/wp-content/uploads/Playing-With-Power-Nintendo-NES-Classics-1.jpg The map isn't there.]] And it certainly doesn't help that [[GuideDangIt the original Zelda is extremely cryptic unless you know it by heart]]. Oh, but it gets worse. Instead of trying to fix the issue, Prima gave everyone who complained about it [[https://www.primagames.com/games/nintendo-nes-classics/pages/legend-zelda-overworld-map this PDF link]] to what was supposed to be there. And, to my knowledge, they never made a second edition of the guide that actually fixes this. We didn't pay 20 bucks to print shit. If we wanted to use the internet for this, we would've done so in the first place (hell, there's [[http://www.nesmaps.com/maps/Zelda/ZeldaOverworldQ1.html one map in particular]] that's much more useful than this). Prima, you guys are actually getting better at making strategy guides, but would it kill you to proof-read your own books before you rush it out?
24th Feb '18 11:20:58 AM WarJay77
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** Tropers/{{WarJay77}}: In my opinion, ''Mapleshade's Vengence.'' She was set up as a very interesting villain in the fourth arc, having been in the Dark Forest longer than the rest of the villains. She was also involved in Crookedstar's backstory and influenced Tigerstar during his own novella. All of this is fine buildup for the first female villain in the series. However, her novella just ruins her for me. In justifying her story by making the rest of [=ThunderClan=] seem like jerks, they effectively made her into what many fans consider to be a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds, with people believing her murderous actions were okay because of what her Clanmates did. This is in addition to the first female villain being evil only because of forbidden romance issues, which is already an overused trope in the series, and contrasts with the male villains who were after power for the sake of power. It just seems like poor writing for what could've been a very interesting character and it highlights the tendencies of the authors to give sad backstories to their villains that only seems to convince readers the villains weren't evil.
30th Jan '18 4:44:57 PM nombretomado
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* MewLettuceRush 2084: An Oral History Of The Great Warming was a book I happened to find on the Kindle store while [[TheLastPoliceman looking for another one]] that I read one day and found surprisingly good, if a bit overly pessimistic. However, there was one part that almost made me give up the book. Towards the end there was a chapter that read as a blatant Author Tract that pretty much [[GodwinsLaw compared American immigration policies to Nazi Germany]] and stated within the book in the 2030s and America First party identical to said Nazi Germany. Although I do agree that there needs to be an overhaulin immigration policy, and the American government isn't exactly the best with said issues, there are many problems with this belief. First of all, as racist as it has been at times, it has never been on the level of Hitler's Germany, so it is absurd to even remotely compare the two. Secondly, do you really think the United States would even allow that kind of party to even be elected? [[CriticalResearchFailure Or allow a profiling program that required Mexicans to wear an identifying patch at all times?]] If that even came close to happening in real life I guarantee you they would be out of office very quickly. Finally, the overall tone of the book was essentially to [[MisplacedNationalism portray Americans or at least the government as Orwellian monsters who were the only people responsible for global warming.]] And it wasn't subtle in the least about this! Maybe it's because I am American myself, and, while I know Americans have fucked up a lot in the past and still have a lot of issues we are not complete monsters for Christ's sake! I managed to finish it and I have to say although it was generally not too bad it does make me reluctant to read it again, or anything else by the author.

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* MewLettuceRush 2084: An Oral History Of The Great Warming was a book I happened to find on the Kindle store while [[TheLastPoliceman looking for another one]] that I read one day and found surprisingly good, if a bit overly pessimistic. However, there was one part that almost made me give up the book. Towards the end there was a chapter that read as a blatant Author Tract that pretty much [[GodwinsLaw compared American immigration policies to Nazi Germany]] and stated within the book in the 2030s and America First party identical to said Nazi Germany. Although I do agree that there needs to be an overhaulin immigration policy, and the American government isn't exactly the best with said issues, there are many problems with this belief. First of all, as racist as it has been at times, it has never been on the level of Hitler's Germany, so it is absurd to even remotely compare the two. Secondly, do you really think the United States would even allow that kind of party to even be elected? [[CriticalResearchFailure Or allow a profiling program that required Mexicans to wear an identifying patch at all times?]] If that even came close to happening in real life I guarantee you they would be out of office very quickly. Finally, the overall tone of the book was essentially to [[MisplacedNationalism [[UsefulNotes/MisplacedNationalism portray Americans or at least the government as Orwellian monsters who were the only people responsible for global warming.]] And it wasn't subtle in the least about this! Maybe it's because I am American myself, and, while I know Americans have fucked up a lot in the past and still have a lot of issues we are not complete monsters for Christ's sake! I managed to finish it and I have to say although it was generally not too bad it does make me reluctant to read it again, or anything else by the author.
25th Dec '17 12:23:49 PM TheOneWhoTropes
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** Tropers/Bronnt: What killed the EU for me was the resolution of the NewJediOrder, and specifically, Zonoma Sekot. It was a quality series, overall, even though it had its weak moments. The greatest thing about it was the titular Jedi Order's quest to better understand the Force, since the Yuuzhan Vong's inability to be sensed was a contradiction in what they believed about it. This exploration led to a great deal of philosophical discussion that I found a welcome addition to the universe. So what's the solution? Not some new enlightened understanding, but the AssPull that the Vong's previous living planet "took the Force" away from them, since it can apparently do that. That reveal came absolutely out of nowhere and retroactively rendered moot a lot of great storytelling.

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** Tropers/Bronnt: What killed the EU for me was the resolution of the NewJediOrder, ''Literature/NewJediOrder'', and specifically, Zonoma Sekot. It was a quality series, overall, even though it had its weak moments. The greatest thing about it was the titular Jedi Order's quest to better understand the Force, since the Yuuzhan Vong's inability to be sensed was a contradiction in what they believed about it. This exploration led to a great deal of philosophical discussion that I found a welcome addition to the universe. So what's the solution? Not some new enlightened understanding, but the AssPull that the Vong's previous living planet "took the Force" away from them, since it can apparently do that. That reveal came absolutely out of nowhere and retroactively rendered moot a lot of great storytelling.
23rd Dec '17 11:54:35 AM YasminPerry
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** Tropers/YasminPerry: Rourke is an annoying MartyStu in general, but it's hard to get past him blowing up a rival's building & ''getting away with it''.
28th Nov '17 6:58:10 PM SenorCornholio
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