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15th Jun '16 8:35:06 AM Berrenta
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15th May '16 3:32:47 PM crazyrabbits
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* Tropers/{{Crazyrabbits}}: The original ending of the game (that is, the cutscene after defeating Sephiroth), before it was expanded/retconned by ''Anime/FinalFantasyVIIAdventChildren''. After Cloud somehow pulls himself and Tifa up onto a cliff ledge one-handed, we suddenly learn that the Highwind has a heretofore-unmentioned "escape" craft that can eject whenever the ship is badly damaged, Aeris is somehow still "alive" in the Lifestream (and seemingly stops Meteor herself), and it is implied that everyone is dead in TheStinger that occurs 200 years later, save for Red XIII (who's somehow sired a pair of cubs). It would have been a NoEnding at best, had the anime not cleared up most of the lingering questions from the ending.
3rd Apr '16 7:03:58 PM Loekman3
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* One moment per game to a troper, if multiple entries are signed to the same troper the more recent one will be cut.

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* One moment per for each game to a troper, if multiple entries of the same game are signed to the same troper the more recent one will be cut.



[[folder: Final Fantasy VII]]

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[[folder: Final Fantasy VII]]VII and its Compilations]]



[[folder:Final Fantasy XIII]]

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[[folder:Final Fantasy XIII]]XIII and its Compilations]]



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[[folder:Final Fantasy XIII-2]]



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[[folder: Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII]]
28th Mar '16 11:38:21 AM Chimanruler15
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** Chimanruler15: What makes this even worse is that after listening to Barret's backstory, Yuffie outright states that she has no sympathy for Barret. Her reason for it? "He should never have trusted Shinra." Um, okay, and? I get that she has issues with the Shinra, too, but so what? A lot of people trusted Shinra and were screwed over by them. Are you not going to feel any sympathy for them, either? Perhaps Barret isn't the only person she doesn't feel sympathy for, but it just goes to show how much of a bitch she is. If she had a better reason for her lack of sympathy, it wouldn't be as bad.
28th Mar '16 11:20:32 AM Chimanruler15
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[[folder:Final Fantasy XIII]]
* Chimanruler15: ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII''. Hope's bloodlust for Snow throughout the entire thing was somewhat annoying for me, and it was at its worst in the scene where he attempted to kill Snow. Apparently, Hope didn't bother to listen when Lightning, who isn't fond of Snow, either, pointed out to him in an earlier cut-scene that the Sanctum--not Snow--killed his mother. Vanille doesn't even back Snow up prior to this cut-scene even though she also witnessed the event firsthand, and Snow doesn't even try to defend himself by explaining to Hope that (a) Hope's mother willingly volunteered to be in Snow's resistance army and that (b) he was admittedly reluctant to let her join because she was a mother. Yes, Snow doesn't think through his actions, but come on, Hope. You saw that Snow didn't force your mother to fight, and you even saw her get blasted. Humans are not perfect, but I absolutely hate it when characters get blamed for things that are completely out of their control. Maybe if Hope had simply been extremely angry or even violent with Snow as Lightning was (I didn't really like that conflict, either, but at least Lightning apologized for it, and it was nowhere near as bad), I would have less of a problem with it, but no, the writers had to make him go and attempt to kill Snow. Really, Square?
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3rd Dec '15 2:36:42 PM catmuto
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* Tropers/{{Catmuto}}: The repeated {{SenselessSacrifice}}s over the course of the game were pretty bad, but there are multiple ones and I cannot say one is worse than the other. And then I found the real [=DMoS=] in this game for me. It's the big, epic scene against the Giang of Babel, that shows that every single one of those sacrifices was reverted. They were all peachy-okay and no worse for the wear than before. It already made their silly sacrificial scenes come off worse, mocking the concept of sacrifices almost (which is weird, since Square overall seems to like the idea of at least one character sacrificing themselves for the great good in practically every Final Fantasy) and takes all the drama away. The only one who doesn't get 'resurrected' is [[spoiler: Tellah]], of course. A very bad design choice - either let those sacrifices stick or do not make me go through multiple sacrifices (even more than one for a character) to begin with.

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* Tropers/{{Catmuto}}: The repeated {{SenselessSacrifice}}s over the course of the game were pretty bad, but there are multiple ones and I cannot say one is worse than the other. And then I found the real [=DMoS=] in this game for me. It's the big, epic scene against the Giang Giant of Babel, that shows that every single one of those sacrifices was reverted. They were all peachy-okay and no worse for the wear than before. It already made their silly sacrificial scenes come off worse, mocking the concept of sacrifices almost (which is weird, since Square overall seems to like the idea of at least one character sacrificing themselves for the great good in practically every Final Fantasy) and takes all the drama away. The only one who doesn't get 'resurrected' is [[spoiler: Tellah]], of course. A very bad design choice - either let those sacrifices stick or do not make me go through multiple sacrifices (even more than one for a character) to begin with.
3rd Dec '15 2:36:03 PM catmuto
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* Tropers/{{Catmuto}}: The repeated SenselessSacrifices over the course of the game were pretty bad, but there are multiple ones and I cannot say one is worse than the other. And then I found the real [=DMoS=] in this game for me. It's the big, epic scene against the Giang of Babel, that shows that every single one of those sacrifices was reverted. They were all peachy-okay and no worse for the wear than before. It already made their silly sacrificial scenes come off worse, mocking the concept of sacrifices almost (which is weird, since Square overall seems to like the idea of at least one character sacrificing themselves for the great good in practically every Final Fantasy) and takes all the drama away. The only one who doesn't get 'resurrected' is [[spoiler: Tellah]], of course. A very bad design choice - either let those sacrifices stick or do not make me go through multiple sacrifices (even more than one for a character) to begin with.

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* Tropers/{{Catmuto}}: The repeated SenselessSacrifices {{SenselessSacrifice}}s over the course of the game were pretty bad, but there are multiple ones and I cannot say one is worse than the other. And then I found the real [=DMoS=] in this game for me. It's the big, epic scene against the Giang of Babel, that shows that every single one of those sacrifices was reverted. They were all peachy-okay and no worse for the wear than before. It already made their silly sacrificial scenes come off worse, mocking the concept of sacrifices almost (which is weird, since Square overall seems to like the idea of at least one character sacrificing themselves for the great good in practically every Final Fantasy) and takes all the drama away. The only one who doesn't get 'resurrected' is [[spoiler: Tellah]], of course. A very bad design choice - either let those sacrifices stick or do not make me go through multiple sacrifices (even more than one for a character) to begin with.
3rd Dec '15 2:35:40 PM catmuto
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[[folder: Final Fantasy IV]]
* Tropers/{{Catmuto}}: The repeated SenselessSacrifices over the course of the game were pretty bad, but there are multiple ones and I cannot say one is worse than the other. And then I found the real [=DMoS=] in this game for me. It's the big, epic scene against the Giang of Babel, that shows that every single one of those sacrifices was reverted. They were all peachy-okay and no worse for the wear than before. It already made their silly sacrificial scenes come off worse, mocking the concept of sacrifices almost (which is weird, since Square overall seems to like the idea of at least one character sacrificing themselves for the great good in practically every Final Fantasy) and takes all the drama away. The only one who doesn't get 'resurrected' is [[spoiler: Tellah]], of course. A very bad design choice - either let those sacrifices stick or do not make me go through multiple sacrifices (even more than one for a character) to begin with.
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7th Nov '15 10:56:52 AM LucaEarlgrey
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Sadly, the [[RunningGag head-deskingly popular]] ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' series has its share of moments that leave the player going "Square(-Enix), what was ''wrong'' with you?"
20th Oct '15 12:07:38 PM catmuto
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* Tropers/{{Catmuto}}: Now, I personally enjoyed ''[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII XIII]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/LightningReturnsFinalFantasyXIII Lightning Returns]]''. But something that pissed me off so much in this game was the sudden emphasis on a reciprocated love between Noel and Yeul. Recalling back to the [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII2 previous game]], the only time we actually saw the Yeul that Noel knew, it was [[spoiler: in his dream world]]. Call me too cynical, but that is not a time where I would take such a revelation seriously. It was a heavily biased area, for all I know, Noel could have been simply showing the player what he wanted it to be, rather than what it was. And yet, it feels so suddenly out of nowhere, when pretty much every Yeul in the game says that this specific Yeul was in love with Noel, not Caius. It felt shoe-horned in, like [=Square=] wanted to stop people from [[FanPreferredShipping shipping Serah and Noel together]] and had, honestly, no place in the game entirely.

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* Tropers/{{Catmuto}}: Now, I personally enjoyed ''[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII XIII]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/LightningReturnsFinalFantasyXIII Lightning Returns]]''. But something that pissed me off so much in this game was the sudden emphasis on a reciprocated love between Noel and Yeul. Recalling back to the [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII2 previous game]], the only time we actually saw the Yeul that Noel knew, it was [[spoiler: in his dream world]]. Call me too cynical, but that is not a time where I would take such a revelation seriously. It was a heavily biased area, for all I know, Noel could have been simply showing the player what he wanted it to be, rather than what it was. And yet, it feels so suddenly out of nowhere, when pretty much every Yeul in the game says that this specific Yeul was in love with Noel, not Caius. It felt shoe-horned in, like [=Square=] wanted to stop people from [[FanPreferredShipping [[FanPreferredCouple shipping Serah and Noel together]] and had, honestly, no place in the game entirely.
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