History DethroningMoment / DoctorWho

30th Aug '16 7:26:22 PM PaulA
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While the Doctor has gone through many adventures in time and space, being [[LongRunner the longest running Science-Fiction show ever created]] means that there's bound to be [[DarthWiki/DethroningMomentOfSuck some moments]] that people want erased from history.

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While the Doctor has gone through many adventures in time and space, being [[LongRunner the longest running Science-Fiction show ever created]] created means that there's bound to be [[DarthWiki/DethroningMomentOfSuck some moments]] that people want erased from history.
18th Aug '16 1:54:46 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* @/romanatorX: Almost everything about "Fear Her" was an embarrassment to the series, from the bad acting to the idiot balls. I would nominate the childish aesop about "Love conquers all" to be the episode's nadir, but no. The ultimate low point for the entire franchise is the drawing of Chloe's abusive dad being turned back to life. So how do they defeat him? Chloe and her mother... sing him away. Yes, you heard that right. They sing a living being away. That is so childish that it is actually insulting to the millions of fans who practically begged the BBC to bring back ''Series/DoctorWho'' for so many years. And even if it wasn't prodding to the youngest demographic, you could tell that the writers, when coming up for an ending to this episode, [[TheyJustDidntCare threw their hands up in the air and said "We don't give a damn!"]] Give me the charm (mediocre special effects, SoBadItsGood acting) of the old series over this childish excuse of a ''Series/DoctorWho'' episode any day.

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* @/romanatorX: Almost everything about "Fear Her" was an embarrassment to the series, from the bad acting to the idiot balls. I would nominate the childish aesop about "Love conquers all" to be the episode's nadir, but no. The ultimate low point for the entire franchise is the drawing of Chloe's abusive dad being turned back to life. So how do they defeat him? Chloe and her mother... sing him away. Yes, you heard that right. They sing a living being away. That is so childish that it is actually insulting to the millions of fans who practically begged the BBC to bring back ''Series/DoctorWho'' for so many years. And even if it wasn't prodding to the youngest demographic, you could tell that the writers, when coming up for an ending to this episode, [[TheyJustDidntCare threw their hands up in the air and said "We don't give a damn!"]] damn!" Give me the charm (mediocre special effects, SoBadItsGood acting) of the old series over this childish excuse of a ''Series/DoctorWho'' episode any day.
13th Aug '16 10:24:06 PM Midna
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* @/{{Metz77}}: Peri in general is a dethroning character, but her absolute worst moment is in her debut episode, "Planet of Fire", when Nicola Bryant, struggling to make her American accent sound even '' slightly'' convincing, attempts to be defiant at the Master with the line "I'm Perpugilliam Brown and I can shout just as loud as you can." Instead of sounding defiant and confident, it comes out shakier than a bobblehead in an earthquake.

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* @/{{Metz77}}: Peri in general is a dethroning character, but her absolute worst moment is in her debut episode, "Planet of Fire", when Nicola Bryant, struggling to make her American accent sound even '' slightly'' slightly convincing, attempts to be defiant at the Master with the line "I'm Perpugilliam Brown and I can shout just as loud as you can." Instead of sounding defiant and confident, it comes out shakier than a bobblehead in an earthquake.



** @/{{zoop}}: I never even made it to the end of the episode. First, I have a pet peeve about the Time Lords' "universal translation" sometimes working and sometimes not. It's all right if there's an explanation for it failing, like in The Satan Pit, but here it just... randomly fails. Second, the Doctor runs off, abandoning Clara on an alien planet for no reason whatsoever. But the final blow was when the Doctor was discussing the planet's religious beliefs. Clara asks him if it's true and he brushes it off with a ''very'' dismissive "Well, it's a nice story." Thank-you, Doctor, for dismissing every major religion in the world. Yeah, it's a nice story... which happens to be true for the people who believe in it. If you don't understand why I'm upset then imagine this: Suppose Neil Degrasse Tyson were to tell the Pope about the big bang. When he's done, the Pope just chuckles and says, "Well, that's a nice story." I think you can see where I'm coming from. I turned it off at that point.

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** @/{{zoop}}: I never even made it to the end of the episode. First, I have a pet peeve about the Time Lords' "universal translation" sometimes working and sometimes not. It's all right if there's an explanation for it failing, like in The Satan Pit, but here it just... randomly fails. Second, the Doctor runs off, abandoning Clara on an alien planet for no reason whatsoever. But the final blow was when the Doctor was discussing the planet's religious beliefs. Clara asks him if it's true and he brushes it off with a ''very'' very dismissive "Well, it's a nice story." Thank-you, Doctor, for dismissing every major religion in the world. Yeah, it's a nice story... which happens to be true for the people who believe in it. If you don't understand why I'm upset then imagine this: Suppose Neil Degrasse Tyson were to tell the Pope about the big bang. When he's done, the Pope just chuckles and says, "Well, that's a nice story." I think you can see where I'm coming from. I turned it off at that point.



** Noraneko: "Do you think I care for you so little that betraying me would make a difference?" Except she was legitimately about to destroy access to his TARDIS (aka, his ''wife'') and after she did so she claimed that she'd do it again in a heartbeat. Some have pointed out that it's something that a father would say to a daughter, but they're not father and child; Clara is supposed to be his best friend. If they actually had a fight rather than a scolding that lasted for thirty seconds, I could have dealt with it, but the whole thing is resolved after a few seconds and then they go on like it didn't happen... And this is ''after'' an entire episode of Clara being wishy-washy on whether or not she wanted to stay with the Doctor after he gave her an equally hard time. I have no idea how Clara became ''more'' selfish as the series went on but this took the cake for me and the betrayal quote just annoyed me, and as mentioned above it's more or less turning a manic and capricious Doctor into a doormat so that we know just how important Clara is.

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** Noraneko: "Do you think I care for you so little that betraying me would make a difference?" Except she was legitimately about to destroy access to his TARDIS (aka, his ''wife'') wife) and after she did so she claimed that she'd do it again in a heartbeat. Some have pointed out that it's something that a father would say to a daughter, but they're not father and child; Clara is supposed to be his best friend. If they actually had a fight rather than a scolding that lasted for thirty seconds, I could have dealt with it, but the whole thing is resolved after a few seconds and then they go on like it didn't happen... And this is ''after'' after an entire episode of Clara being wishy-washy on whether or not she wanted to stay with the Doctor after he gave her an equally hard time. I have no idea how Clara became ''more'' more selfish as the series went on but this took the cake for me and the betrayal quote just annoyed me, and as mentioned above it's more or less turning a manic and capricious Doctor into a doormat so that we know just how important Clara is.



** @/{{timotaka}}: Most people might consider this a trivially small thing, but it managed to piss me the right off: A (white) male Time Lord regenerates into a (black) female. This itself is not so bad, but then the first thing she says is she's "back to normal" and how bad it was to be a man. Imagine the situation reversed: A female Time Lord regenerates into a male and his first words are, "Ooh, being a man is much better. Now I can keep my emotions in check and think clearly for a change!" Way to be stupid ''and'' insult half of everybody!

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** @/{{timotaka}}: Most people might consider this a trivially small thing, but it managed to piss me the right off: A (white) male Time Lord regenerates into a (black) female. This itself is not so bad, but then the first thing she says is she's "back to normal" and how bad it was to be a man. Imagine the situation reversed: A female Time Lord regenerates into a male and his first words are, "Ooh, being a man is much better. Now I can keep my emotions in check and think clearly for a change!" Way to be stupid ''and'' and insult half of everybody!
15th Jun '16 8:16:31 AM Berrenta
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23rd May '16 9:33:38 AM SorPepita
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* @/{{LahmacunKebab}}: "Day of the Moon". Wait, so genetically engineered priests from the future have been secretly controlling humanity since prehistory just because they wanted space suits? Needlessly complicated doesn't even begin to cover it.

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* @/{{LahmacunKebab}}: [=SorPepita=]: "Day of the Moon". Wait, so genetically engineered priests from the future have been secretly controlling humanity since from prehistory to 1969 just because they wanted space suits? (Seriously, that was the only reason they had for doing it). Needlessly complicated doesn't even begin to cover it.it; in fact, I consider it to be one of the most ridiculous [[GambitRoulette Gambit Roulettes]] in the history of fiction.
21st Mar '16 8:59:16 AM timotaka
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** @/{{timotaka}}: Most people might consider this a trivially small thing, but it managed to piss me the right off: A (white) male Time Lord regenerates into a (black) female. This itself is not so bad, but then the first thing she says is she's "back to normal" and how bad it was to be a man. Imagine the situation reversed: A female Time Lord regenerates into a male and his first words are, "Ooh, being a man is much better. Now I can keep my emotions in check and think clearly for a change!" Way to be stupid ''and'' insult half of everybody!
19th Feb '16 1:11:47 PM Deadpan29
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**@/{{Deadpan29}}: Concurring with this one. I could not get my suspension of disbelief over the many physics-failures regarding the moon and eggs in general. Then Clara makes a decision that the writers degree to be virtuous, but looks to me like the morally wrong choice based solely on what information was available to her. And then the Doctor turns out to have been playing a sick mind-game based off of some warped misunderstanding of human interaction. For that matter, the whole season was kind of rough as the writers all seemed off balance and ham-fisted with the new Doctor.
9th Feb '16 7:46:50 AM MrThorfan64
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* @/{{MrThorfan64}}: I was doing "Journey To The Center Of The Tardis" and hope someone will put it back but I am now going to add "Tooth and Claw". The behaviour of Rose, the [[DesignatedHero "perfect companion"]]. People are getting torn to pieces by a werewolf. And what does Rose do? She keeps trying to win a stupid bet with the Doctor that she can get Victoria to say she isn't amused. [[FlatWhat What]]. This isn't the time Rose! Her and 10 come across as unbearable here, seeming to [[NightmareFetishist enjoy the horrible stuff]] that's going on. It's not surprising Victoria banishes, from her perspective, these terrible people. Rose and 10 are thought by many as the best TARDIS team but this episode demonstrates what jerks they are. Thank Eru and Dionysus Rose left at the end of the Series. That was when 10's era became better.

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* @/{{MrThorfan64}}: I was doing "Journey To The Center Of The Tardis" and hope someone will put it back but I am now going to add "Tooth and Claw". The behaviour of Rose, the [[DesignatedHero "perfect companion"]]. People are getting torn to pieces by a werewolf. And what does Rose do? She keeps trying to win a stupid bet with the Doctor that she can get Victoria to say she isn't amused. [[FlatWhat What]]. This isn't the time Rose! Her and 10 come across as unbearable here, seeming to [[NightmareFetishist enjoy the horrible stuff]] that's going on. on, when if they had any decency they would be appreciating this is not the time to be light-hearted. It's not surprising Victoria banishes, from her perspective, these terrible people. people who can't act serious even at the most horrific moments. Rose and 10 are thought by many as the best TARDIS team but this episode demonstrates what jerks they are. Thank Eru and Dionysus Rose left at the end of the Series. That was are when together, and I certainly feel 10's era became better.better when Rose left.
12th Jan '16 2:28:57 PM KennethMorgan
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** @/{{KennethMorgan}}: The biggest problem with "Hell Bent" is that it's not a resolution to the mystery of the Hybrid. It's not the Doctor's long-awaited return to Gallifrey. It's not the Doctor confronting those who helped cause Clara's death, and then tormented him for billions of years. In the end, the episode turns out to actually be nothing more than a BackdoorPilot for a potential SpinOff, "The Adventures of Clara and Me". A tremendous buildup, followed by a lousy payoff.
6th Jan '16 4:43:55 AM Tiggerific
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** @/{{Tiggerific}}: The episode had so much potential to be awesome, and it was simply wasted. Gallifrey, Rassilon, an angry Doctor, the Hybrid mystery, Ashildr's return, the sisterhood... How could you go wrong with that? Instead they made everything about Clara again, spat in the face of her genuinely tearful death scene and trampled on the moral she was supposed to learn (don't take risks) by sending her off in her own TARDIS, thus turning her into a Doctor pretender. Not to mention they wiped the Doctor's memory of her, taking away his right to grieve. Added to that, Rassilon was sent away in the first ten minutes, Ashildr was given practically nothing to do and they hinted that the Doctor might indeed be a HalfHumanHybrid.
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