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8th Apr '18 1:54:17 PM Walecs
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* {{NTroper}}: The Donald Duck Brazilian comic story known as "''Na Marca do Pênalti''", which roughly translates itself to "On Penalty's Edge", AKA [[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons The Boys of Bummer]] taken to the most ridiculous extreme possible. To elaborate, a soccer team sponsored by Scrooge is facing a team sponsored by Rockerduck. Winner earns the respective sponsors the rights to business during the next World Cup in Germany and the transmission rights. Donald is playing for Scrooge's team and has to shoot a penalty as everyone else is injured in one way or another, no matter how ridiculous the injury is (headache and calluses, for one). Donald has to shoot, despite telling he's a terrible shooter. The DrillSergeantNasty coach tells Donald to stop wussing out and score, and that if they lose, it's Donald's fault. Then, Donald trips and loses the penalty, and what follows is one of the most disgusting KickTheDog moments Duckburg could offer. Everyone in the team starts blaming Donald and insulting him, telling he should have let someone else shoot, despite everyone cowardly backing out earlier in the game, not letting Donald ride the Team Bus back home, Scrooge calling Donald ingrate and telling him he'll work to repay all the money he'd have earned in Germany, taxists refusing to let Donald in, passerbys saying they want Donald's head. Then, when Donald tries seeking Daisy for comfort, Daisy cusses him out for having the nerve to visit her after his defeat ruined her party and then ditches him for Gladstone again, and for extra measure, Gladstone tells Donald "You're here too? Why don't you go home?". And finally, when Donald makes it home, the Beagle Boys empty Donald's house as compensation for them losing a bet they made on his team. Not even the reveal it was just Donald's daydream and the following daydream of how nice things would go for him if he scores, ending with Donald not being afraid of anything and just going for the shoot is enough to make up for this utterly ridiculous first act.

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* {{NTroper}}: The Donald Duck Brazilian Italian comic story known as "''Na Marca do Pênalti''", "Paperino e il rigore decisivo", which roughly translates itself to "On Penalty's Edge", "Donald and the decisive penalty", AKA [[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons The Boys of Bummer]] taken to the most ridiculous extreme possible. To elaborate, a soccer team sponsored by Scrooge is facing a team sponsored by Rockerduck. Winner earns the respective sponsors the rights to business during the next World Cup in Germany and the transmission rights. Donald is playing for Scrooge's team and has to shoot a penalty as everyone else is injured in one way or another, no matter how ridiculous the injury is (headache and calluses, for one). Donald has to shoot, despite telling he's a terrible shooter. The DrillSergeantNasty coach tells Donald to stop wussing out and score, and that if they lose, it's Donald's fault. Then, Donald trips and loses the penalty, and what follows is one of the most disgusting KickTheDog moments Duckburg could offer. Everyone in the team starts blaming Donald and insulting him, telling he should have let someone else shoot, despite everyone cowardly backing out earlier in the game, not letting Donald ride the Team Bus back home, Scrooge calling Donald ingrate and telling him he'll work to repay all the money he'd have earned in Germany, taxists refusing to let Donald in, passerbys saying they want Donald's head. Then, when Donald tries seeking Daisy for comfort, Daisy cusses him out for having the nerve to visit her after his defeat ruined her party and then ditches him for Gladstone again, and for extra measure, Gladstone tells Donald "You're here too? Why don't you go home?". And finally, when Donald makes it home, the Beagle Boys empty Donald's house as compensation for them losing a bet they made on his team. Not even the reveal it was just Donald's daydream and the following daydream of how nice things would go for him if he scores, ending with Donald not being afraid of anything and just going for the shoot is enough to make up for this utterly ridiculous first act.
23rd Feb '18 10:21:08 PM BigJimbo
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** Tropers/BigJimbo: Removing my former entry for something worse: "Paperino e i Gamberi in Salmì". It seems OK, but the ending is not funny at all. It ends with Scrooge's brother Gedeon giving Huey, Dewey and Louie a parody of the "Pulitzer" prize. Then, he gives it to Donald because they're too young. Good so far. But the ''final'' panel shows the three running Donald out of town town and saying "[[YoureNotMyFather You're not our uncle]]... you're a medal snatcher!" (that's right, three kids who are commonly portrayed as intelligent, caring persons resort to disowning their own uncle over '''a medal''' of all things) when he didn't steal it from them ([[SarcasmMode Because Donald being given a badge that was initially for them before Gedeon realized they're too young]] [[note]]He shouldn't have given them the Pulitzer stand-in to begin with because that would make this crapfest of an ending impossible to happen[[/note]] [[SarcasmMode is totally stealing it from them]]), [[OutOfCharacterMoment which is absolutely unexpected for the three]]. And ''[[NoEnding that's how it ends]]''. We're not shown what they wanted to do to him (even though it's very unlikely because they aren't monsters, ''[[FridgeHorror what would happen if they wanted to kill him?]]''), or if Donald [[KarmaHoudini got back at them]]. Now Donald Duck can be a jerk sometimes (all the characters can) but that one went beyond mean, especially since he gets completely treated like something a dog crapped out by the end for something he's one hundred percent innocent of. Even though I still won't hate them due to still being noble (''WesternAnimation/{{Ducktales}}'' comes to mind) and the rest of the comic being admittedly good, it still pisses me off a lot. Yes, they're kids and yes, that's what kids often do but we're talking about three characters who are often portrayed as intelligent and caring running an adult who, whilst frequently a jerk, has been shown to genuinely love and care for them on a vast multitude of occasions. Case in point: the [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments absolutely nice]] story where they complained to each other about Donald's many flaws only to suddenly realize that no matter if Donald is a big success or not, he still takes care of them, cooks for them, makes sure they're clothed and happy, and on the whole uses a lot more money on them than he does on himself, feel guilt and resolve to start appreciating their uncle a little more in the future. AesopAmnesia much?

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** Tropers/BigJimbo: Removing my former entry for something worse: "Paperino e i Gamberi in Salmì". It seems OK, but the ending is not funny at all. It ends with Scrooge's brother Gedeon giving Huey, Dewey and Louie a parody of the "Pulitzer" prize. Then, he gives it to Donald because they're too young. Good so far. But the ''final'' panel shows the three running Donald out of town town and saying "[[YoureNotMyFather You're not our uncle]]... you're a medal snatcher!" (that's right, three kids who are commonly portrayed as intelligent, caring persons resort to disowning their own uncle over '''a medal''' of all things) when he didn't steal it from them ([[SarcasmMode Because Donald being given a badge that was initially for them before Gedeon realized they're too young]] young so they can get it when they get older]] [[note]]He shouldn't have given them the Pulitzer stand-in to begin with because that would make this crapfest of an ending impossible to happen[[/note]] [[SarcasmMode is totally stealing it from them]]), [[OutOfCharacterMoment which is absolutely unexpected for the three]]. And ''[[NoEnding that's how it ends]]''. We're not shown what they wanted to do to him (even though it's very unlikely because they aren't monsters, ''[[FridgeHorror what would happen if they wanted to kill him?]]''), or if Donald [[KarmaHoudini got back at them]]. Now Donald Duck can be a jerk sometimes (all the characters can) but that one went beyond mean, especially since he gets completely treated like something a dog crapped out by the end for something he's one hundred percent innocent of. Even though I still won't hate them due to still being noble (''WesternAnimation/{{Ducktales}}'' comes to mind) and the rest of the comic being admittedly good, it still pisses me off a lot. Yes, they're kids and yes, that's what kids often do but we're talking about three characters who are often portrayed as intelligent and caring running an adult who, whilst frequently a jerk, has been shown to genuinely love and care for them on a vast multitude of occasions. Case in point: the [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments absolutely nice]] story where they complained to each other about Donald's many flaws only to suddenly realize that no matter if Donald is a big success or not, he still takes care of them, cooks for them, makes sure they're clothed and happy, and on the whole uses a lot more money on them than he does on himself, feel guilt and resolve to start appreciating their uncle a little more in the future. AesopAmnesia much?much? However, Donald is also unlikeable in here (he mocks his nephews). The result: [[FanonDiscontinuity excluding Disney comics from canon and counting them as an alternate universe where the characters]] are '''[[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy all]]''' raging {{Jerkass}}es.



* Tropers/BigJimbo: I have only one complaint of the ComicBook/MickeyMouse comics, specifically the one where Mickey wants to play chess, but nobody lets him do that. You thought that the trend of characters being tremendous [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkasses]] for no other reason than to screw other characters only happens in the ''ComicBooks/DisneyDucksComicUniverse''? Wrong. I'm proving that it crept in this comic. Well, in one part of the comic, Mickey calls Minnie on the phone. What's the answer? [[OutOfCharacterMoment Minnie yelling at him calling her.]] Yes, you heard me right. Sweet, innocent Minnie Mouse is yelling at him. The reason behind this? [[MakesJustAsMuchSenseInContext Mickey had gone to a bear's cave and Minnie thought the bear's growls were his]]. Her response? To shout ''[[TookALevelInJerkass "FIND A BETTER]] [[DudeNotFunny EXCUSE NEXT TIME!"]]'' [[NoIndoorVoice at the top of her lungs]] and hang up on him, ending the conversation right then and there. [[FlatWhat What.]] Why did this comic have to make Minnie so much of a bitch? Did Minnie really have to be [[CharacterDerailment derailed this badly?]] ''Wow''. To make matters worse, [[KarmaHoudini she doesn't receive punishment for this]], giving me a nagging feeling that [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic we're supposed to agree with this act]]. I've never looked at this part since I first read that story.

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* Tropers/BigJimbo: I have only one complaint of many complaints for the ComicBook/MickeyMouse comics, specifically the one where Mickey wants to play chess, but nobody lets him do that. You thought that the trend of characters being tremendous [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkasses]] for no other reason than to screw other characters only happens in the ''ComicBooks/DisneyDucksComicUniverse''? Wrong. I'm proving that it crept in this comic. Well, in one part of the comic, Mickey calls Minnie on the phone. What's the answer? And [[OutOfCharacterMoment Minnie yelling yells at him calling her.her and insults him.]] Yes, you heard me right. Sweet, innocent Minnie Mouse is yelling at him. The reason behind this? And all that just because [[MakesJustAsMuchSenseInContext Mickey had gone to a bear's cave and Minnie thought the bear's growls were his]]. Her response? To shout And obviously, she doesn't believe him and shouts ''[[TookALevelInJerkass "FIND A BETTER]] [[DudeNotFunny EXCUSE NEXT TIME!"]]'' [[NoIndoorVoice at the top of her lungs]] and hang up on him, ending the conversation right then and there. [[FlatWhat What.]] Why did this comic have to make Minnie so much of a bitch? Did Minnie really have to be [[CharacterDerailment derailed this badly?]] ''Wow''. To make matters worse, [[KarmaHoudini she doesn't receive punishment for this]], giving me a nagging feeling that [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic we're supposed to agree with this act]]. I've never looked at this part since I first read that story. This and the ''ComicBooks/DisneyDucksComicUniverse'' DMOS above cement my opinion that Disney comics show one of the worst cases of DarknessInducedAudienceApathy.
11th Jan '18 7:24:26 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Tropers/BigJimbo: Removing my former entry for something worse: "Paperino e i Gamberi in Salmì". It seems OK, but the ending is [[DudeNotFunny not funny at all]].all. It ends with Scrooge's brother Gedeon giving Huey, Dewey and Louie a parody of the "Pulitzer" prize. Then, he gives it to Donald because they're too young. Good so far. But the ''final'' panel shows the three running Donald out of town town and saying "[[YoureNotMyFather You're not our uncle]]... you're a medal snatcher!" (that's right, three kids who are commonly portrayed as intelligent, caring persons resort to disowning their own uncle over '''a medal''' of all things) when he didn't steal it from them ([[SarcasmMode Because Donald being given a badge that was initially for them before Gedeon realized they're too young]] [[note]]He shouldn't have given them the Pulitzer stand-in to begin with because that would make this crapfest of an ending impossible to happen[[/note]] [[SarcasmMode is totally stealing it from them]]), [[OutOfCharacterMoment which is absolutely unexpected for the three]]. And ''[[NoEnding that's how it ends]]''. We're not shown what they wanted to do to him (even though it's very unlikely because they aren't monsters, ''[[FridgeHorror what would happen if they wanted to kill him?]]''), or if Donald [[KarmaHoudini got back at them]]. Now Donald Duck can be a jerk sometimes (all the characters can) but that one went beyond mean, especially since he gets completely treated like something a dog crapped out by the end for something he's one hundred percent innocent of. Even though I still won't hate them due to still being noble (''WesternAnimation/{{Ducktales}}'' comes to mind) and the rest of the comic being admittedly good, it still pisses me off a lot. Yes, they're kids and yes, that's what kids often do but we're talking about three characters who are often portrayed as intelligent and caring running an adult who, whilst frequently a jerk, has been shown to genuinely love and care for them on a vast multitude of occasions. Case in point: the [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments absolutely nice]] story where they complained to each other about Donald's many flaws only to suddenly realize that no matter if Donald is a big success or not, he still takes care of them, cooks for them, makes sure they're clothed and happy, and on the whole uses a lot more money on them than he does on himself, feel guilt and resolve to start appreciating their uncle a little more in the future. AesopAmnesia much?

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** Tropers/BigJimbo: Removing my former entry for something worse: "Paperino e i Gamberi in Salmì". It seems OK, but the ending is [[DudeNotFunny not funny at all]].all. It ends with Scrooge's brother Gedeon giving Huey, Dewey and Louie a parody of the "Pulitzer" prize. Then, he gives it to Donald because they're too young. Good so far. But the ''final'' panel shows the three running Donald out of town town and saying "[[YoureNotMyFather You're not our uncle]]... you're a medal snatcher!" (that's right, three kids who are commonly portrayed as intelligent, caring persons resort to disowning their own uncle over '''a medal''' of all things) when he didn't steal it from them ([[SarcasmMode Because Donald being given a badge that was initially for them before Gedeon realized they're too young]] [[note]]He shouldn't have given them the Pulitzer stand-in to begin with because that would make this crapfest of an ending impossible to happen[[/note]] [[SarcasmMode is totally stealing it from them]]), [[OutOfCharacterMoment which is absolutely unexpected for the three]]. And ''[[NoEnding that's how it ends]]''. We're not shown what they wanted to do to him (even though it's very unlikely because they aren't monsters, ''[[FridgeHorror what would happen if they wanted to kill him?]]''), or if Donald [[KarmaHoudini got back at them]]. Now Donald Duck can be a jerk sometimes (all the characters can) but that one went beyond mean, especially since he gets completely treated like something a dog crapped out by the end for something he's one hundred percent innocent of. Even though I still won't hate them due to still being noble (''WesternAnimation/{{Ducktales}}'' comes to mind) and the rest of the comic being admittedly good, it still pisses me off a lot. Yes, they're kids and yes, that's what kids often do but we're talking about three characters who are often portrayed as intelligent and caring running an adult who, whilst frequently a jerk, has been shown to genuinely love and care for them on a vast multitude of occasions. Case in point: the [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments absolutely nice]] story where they complained to each other about Donald's many flaws only to suddenly realize that no matter if Donald is a big success or not, he still takes care of them, cooks for them, makes sure they're clothed and happy, and on the whole uses a lot more money on them than he does on himself, feel guilt and resolve to start appreciating their uncle a little more in the future. AesopAmnesia much?
27th Dec '17 2:52:10 AM BigJimbo
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** Tropers/{{TommyTiger}}: Removing my former entry for something worse: "Paperino e i Gamberi in Salmì". It seems OK, but the ending is [[DudeNotFunny not funny at all]].all. It ends with Scrooge's brother Gedeon giving Huey, Dewey and Louie a parody of the "Pulitzer" prize. Then, he gives it to Donald because they're too young. Good so far. But the ''final'' panel shows the three running Donald out of town town and saying "[[YoureNotMyFather You're not our uncle]]... you're a medal snatcher!" (that's right, three kids who are commonly portrayed as intelligent, caring persons resort to disowning their own uncle over '''a medal''' of all things) when he didn't steal it from them ([[SarcasmMode Because Donald being given a badge that was initially for them before Gedeon realized they're too young]] [[note]]He shouldn't have given them the Pulitzer stand-in to begin with because that would make this crapfest of an ending impossible to happen[[/note]] [[SarcasmMode is totally stealing it from them]]), [[OutOfCharacterMoment which is absolutely unexpected for the three]]. And ''[[NoEnding that's how it ends]]''. We're not shown what they wanted to do to him (even though it's very unlikely because they aren't monsters, ''[[FridgeHorror what would happen if they wanted to kill him?]]''), or if Donald [[KarmaHoudini got back at them]]. Now Donald Duck can be a jerk sometimes (all the characters can) but that one went beyond mean, especially since he gets completely treated like something a dog crapped out by the end for something he's one hundred percent innocent of. Even though I still won't hate them due to still being noble (''WesternAnimation/{{Ducktales}}'' comes to mind) and the rest of the comic being admittedly good, it still pisses me off a lot. Yes, they're kids and yes, that's what kids often do but we're talking about three characters who are often portrayed as intelligent and caring running an adult who, whilst frequently a jerk, has been shown to genuinely love and care for them on a vast multitude of occasions. Case in point: the [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments absolutely nice]] story where they complained to each other about Donald's many flaws only to suddenly realize that no matter if Donald is a big success or not, he still takes care of them, cooks for them, makes sure they're clothed and happy, and on the whole uses a lot more money on them than he does on himself, feel guilt and resolve to start appreciating their uncle a little more in the future. AesopAmnesia much?

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** Tropers/{{TommyTiger}}: Tropers/BigJimbo: Removing my former entry for something worse: "Paperino e i Gamberi in Salmì". It seems OK, but the ending is [[DudeNotFunny not funny at all]].all. It ends with Scrooge's brother Gedeon giving Huey, Dewey and Louie a parody of the "Pulitzer" prize. Then, he gives it to Donald because they're too young. Good so far. But the ''final'' panel shows the three running Donald out of town town and saying "[[YoureNotMyFather You're not our uncle]]... you're a medal snatcher!" (that's right, three kids who are commonly portrayed as intelligent, caring persons resort to disowning their own uncle over '''a medal''' of all things) when he didn't steal it from them ([[SarcasmMode Because Donald being given a badge that was initially for them before Gedeon realized they're too young]] [[note]]He shouldn't have given them the Pulitzer stand-in to begin with because that would make this crapfest of an ending impossible to happen[[/note]] [[SarcasmMode is totally stealing it from them]]), [[OutOfCharacterMoment which is absolutely unexpected for the three]]. And ''[[NoEnding that's how it ends]]''. We're not shown what they wanted to do to him (even though it's very unlikely because they aren't monsters, ''[[FridgeHorror what would happen if they wanted to kill him?]]''), or if Donald [[KarmaHoudini got back at them]]. Now Donald Duck can be a jerk sometimes (all the characters can) but that one went beyond mean, especially since he gets completely treated like something a dog crapped out by the end for something he's one hundred percent innocent of. Even though I still won't hate them due to still being noble (''WesternAnimation/{{Ducktales}}'' comes to mind) and the rest of the comic being admittedly good, it still pisses me off a lot. Yes, they're kids and yes, that's what kids often do but we're talking about three characters who are often portrayed as intelligent and caring running an adult who, whilst frequently a jerk, has been shown to genuinely love and care for them on a vast multitude of occasions. Case in point: the [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments absolutely nice]] story where they complained to each other about Donald's many flaws only to suddenly realize that no matter if Donald is a big success or not, he still takes care of them, cooks for them, makes sure they're clothed and happy, and on the whole uses a lot more money on them than he does on himself, feel guilt and resolve to start appreciating their uncle a little more in the future. AesopAmnesia much?



* Tropers/TommyTiger: I have only one complaint of the ComicBook/MickeyMouse comics, specifically the one where Mickey wants to play chess, but nobody lets him do that. You thought that the trend of characters being tremendous [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkasses]] for no other reason than to screw other characters only happens in the ''ComicBooks/DisneyDucksComicUniverse''? Wrong. I'm proving that it crept in this comic. Well, in one part of the comic, Mickey calls Minnie on the phone. What's the answer? [[OutOfCharacterMoment Minnie yelling at him calling her.]] Yes, you heard me right. Sweet, innocent Minnie Mouse is yelling at him. The reason behind this? [[MakesJustAsMuchSenseInContext Mickey had gone to a bear's cave and Minnie thought the bear's growls were his]]. Her response? To shout ''[[TookALevelInJerkass "FIND A BETTER]] [[DudeNotFunny EXCUSE NEXT TIME!"]]'' [[NoIndoorVoice at the top of her lungs]] and hang up on him, ending the conversation right then and there. [[FlatWhat What.]] Why did this comic have to make Minnie so much of a bitch? Did Minnie really have to be [[CharacterDerailment derailed this badly?]] ''Wow''. To make matters worse, [[KarmaHoudini she doesn't receive punishment for this]], giving me a nagging feeling that [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic we're supposed to agree with this act]]. I've never looked at this part since I first read that story.

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* Tropers/TommyTiger: Tropers/BigJimbo: I have only one complaint of the ComicBook/MickeyMouse comics, specifically the one where Mickey wants to play chess, but nobody lets him do that. You thought that the trend of characters being tremendous [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkasses]] for no other reason than to screw other characters only happens in the ''ComicBooks/DisneyDucksComicUniverse''? Wrong. I'm proving that it crept in this comic. Well, in one part of the comic, Mickey calls Minnie on the phone. What's the answer? [[OutOfCharacterMoment Minnie yelling at him calling her.]] Yes, you heard me right. Sweet, innocent Minnie Mouse is yelling at him. The reason behind this? [[MakesJustAsMuchSenseInContext Mickey had gone to a bear's cave and Minnie thought the bear's growls were his]]. Her response? To shout ''[[TookALevelInJerkass "FIND A BETTER]] [[DudeNotFunny EXCUSE NEXT TIME!"]]'' [[NoIndoorVoice at the top of her lungs]] and hang up on him, ending the conversation right then and there. [[FlatWhat What.]] Why did this comic have to make Minnie so much of a bitch? Did Minnie really have to be [[CharacterDerailment derailed this badly?]] ''Wow''. To make matters worse, [[KarmaHoudini she doesn't receive punishment for this]], giving me a nagging feeling that [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic we're supposed to agree with this act]]. I've never looked at this part since I first read that story.
27th Dec '17 12:25:04 AM SenorCornholio
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* ''ComicBook/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDW'':
** Tropers/{{KoopaKid17}}: The ''My Little Pony'' comics are somewhat faithful to [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic the cartoons]], even if both tend to ruin heartwarming endings with MoodWhiplash. "Don't You Forget About Us" (Issue 38 to 39) has the worst of such moments, focusing on [[ThoseTwoGuys Snips and Snails]] who become lost in the woods with the Cutie Mark Crusaders, Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon. The two colts save Sweetie Belle from being [[BearsAreBadNews mauled by a bear]] and they help pull Apple Bloom and Diamond Tiara to safety when they're about to fall off a cliff. Later on, they bemoan their roles as the dunces of Ponyville and confess that they have feelings, too. I'm not afraid to admit that Snips and Snails deserve more respect in the fandom and the comic did a great job addressing it. But what happens in the end after the foals are rescued? Snails tells the Cutie Mark Crusaders that he and Snips [[UngratefulBastard won't hang out with them]] and the Crusaders think they deserve their cutie marks [[SurroundedByIdiots just for surviving with the two colts]]. Character development down the drain. If they can make Diamond Tiara be friends with the Cutie Mark Crusaders, why not Snips and Snails? The colts proved to the fillies that they were NotSoDifferent but StatusQuoIsGod stepped in, and the ending felt like a punch in the gut. What a waste.
** Tropers/{{Peridonyx}}: "Chaos Theory" (#48-50) is actually pretty good for the first two issues... which only makes its cheap, lazy conclusion all the sadder. First, the {{Asspull}} {{Reveal}} that the Elements can just be removed from the Tree whenever, thus reducing all these past few years of the Rainbow Power to a ShaggyDogStory. Next, the Elements (i.e., the highest on the SuperWeight scale) themselves get a double {{Worf Effect}} -- first by Accord somehow managing to DiabolusExMachina them against the heroes [[note]]He may be the SplitPersonality of Discord (i.e., Equestria's WorldsStrongestMan ex-villain), but even he could do little more than hide the Elements at best.[[/note]], then by Starlight (i.e., a default Unicorn; not even an Alicorn, Draconequus, OneWingedAngel, etc.) somehow managing to DeflectorShield herself from them. And ultimately, she becomes a blatant SpotlightStealingSquad [[note]]Fluttershy being Discord's MoralityPet? Pointless. Twilight and Luna's BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind to free Discord? Pointless. Celestia's introspection? Pointless.[[/note]], then rather-predictably invokes TalkingTheMonsterToDeath to finally get Discord back. What a insult to countless fans... and a NotHelpingYourCase for Starlight's BaseBreakingCharacter status.
*** Tropers/{{Godzillawolf}}: This is not helped by the fact that the worfing of the Elements is done in such a way as to render the Arc's entire moral a BrokenAesop. The story talks so much about how Accord's absolute order is just as bad as Discord's absolute chaos was, and how harmony isn't absolute order, but rather a mix of chaos and order. In fact, it's this very poin' that makes Accord willingly transform back into Discord. And yet the justification for the Elements not working on Accord is he's "absolute order", implying that absolute order ''is'' harmony as far as the Elements are concerned.
** [=SenorCornholio=]: I'm incredibly surprised that no one has mentioned the [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDWHolidays2014 2014 holiday special]] yet. The premise is that someone calling herself "Anon-a-Miss" goes around, posting embarrassing stuff about the Humane 5 sans Sunset Shimmer and, naturally, they come to the conclusion that Sunset may have something to do with it. So do they talk about it like rational adults? Haha, no. Instead, they decide to take the "realistic" approach and [[WithFriendsLikeThese angrily lambaste Sunset, sending her into a depression]]. [[SarcasmMode Great friendship there, by the way; Twilight made the right decision entrusting Sunset with you!]] So does Sunset try and make things right, somehow? [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot Nope]]; instead, the actual Anon-a-Miss reveals herself to be the Cutie Mark Crusaders, as [[DisproportionateRetribution Apple Bloom was jealous of how much time Applejack spent with Sunset over her]]. The other two aren't even justified. And the Humane 5 just... [[EasilyForgiven simply forgive them]]. Yep; they're willing to turn on Sunset over something she didn't do, but when the real culprit comes up they're all "Oh okay, that's perfectly fine!" This actually made me hate ''every'' human present not named Sunset Shimmer because of these actions, at least in the comics, because of this sheer [[{{Jerkass}} jerkassery]] and [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocrisy]]. From that day on, [[FanonDiscontinuity I stopped counting the comics as canon]] (the only exceptions being the villains' backstory comics until proven otherwise) and only checked in on them once in a while to see what they were up to. And as the above entries show, I made the right choice, and I'm happy this is mere supplementary material ([[DethroningMoment/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic the show itself already has enough of these entries as is]]).
27th Dec '17 12:21:31 AM SenorCornholio
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* ''ComicBook/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDW'':
** Tropers/{{KoopaKid17}}: The ''My Little Pony'' comics are somewhat faithful to [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic the cartoons]], even if both tend to ruin heartwarming endings with MoodWhiplash. "Don't You Forget About Us" (Issue 38 to 39) has the worst of such moments, focusing on [[ThoseTwoGuys Snips and Snails]] who become lost in the woods with the Cutie Mark Crusaders, Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon. The two colts save Sweetie Belle from being [[BearsAreBadNews mauled by a bear]] and they help pull Apple Bloom and Diamond Tiara to safety when they're about to fall off a cliff. Later on, they bemoan their roles as the dunces of Ponyville and confess that they have feelings, too. I'm not afraid to admit that Snips and Snails deserve more respect in the fandom and the comic did a great job addressing it. But what happens in the end after the foals are rescued? Snails tells the Cutie Mark Crusaders that he and Snips [[UngratefulBastard won't hang out with them]] and the Crusaders think they deserve their cutie marks [[SurroundedByIdiots just for surviving with the two colts]]. Character development down the drain. If they can make Diamond Tiara be friends with the Cutie Mark Crusaders, why not Snips and Snails? The colts proved to the fillies that they were NotSoDifferent but StatusQuoIsGod stepped in, and the ending felt like a punch in the gut. What a waste.
** Tropers/{{Peridonyx}}: "Chaos Theory" (#48-50) is actually pretty good for the first two issues... which only makes its cheap, lazy conclusion all the sadder. First, the {{Asspull}} {{Reveal}} that the Elements can just be removed from the Tree whenever, thus reducing all these past few years of the Rainbow Power to a ShaggyDogStory. Next, the Elements (i.e., the highest on the SuperWeight scale) themselves get a double {{Worf Effect}} -- first by Accord somehow managing to DiabolusExMachina them against the heroes [[note]]He may be the SplitPersonality of Discord (i.e., Equestria's WorldsStrongestMan ex-villain), but even he could do little more than hide the Elements at best.[[/note]], then by Starlight (i.e., a default Unicorn; not even an Alicorn, Draconequus, OneWingedAngel, etc.) somehow managing to DeflectorShield herself from them. And ultimately, she becomes a blatant SpotlightStealingSquad [[note]]Fluttershy being Discord's MoralityPet? Pointless. Twilight and Luna's BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind to free Discord? Pointless. Celestia's introspection? Pointless.[[/note]], then rather-predictably invokes TalkingTheMonsterToDeath to finally get Discord back. What a insult to countless fans... and a NotHelpingYourCase for Starlight's BaseBreakingCharacter status.
*** Tropers/{{Godzillawolf}}: This is not helped by the fact that the worfing of the Elements is done in such a way as to render the Arc's entire moral a BrokenAesop. The story talks so much about how Accord's absolute order is just as bad as Discord's absolute chaos was, and how harmony isn't absolute order, but rather a mix of chaos and order. In fact, it's this very poin' that makes Accord willingly transform back into Discord. And yet the justification for the Elements not working on Accord is he's "absolute order", implying that absolute order ''is'' harmony as far as the Elements are concerned.
** [=SenorCornholio=]: I'm incredibly surprised that no one has mentioned the [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDWHolidays2014 2014 holiday special]] yet. The premise is that someone calling herself "Anon-a-Miss" goes around, posting embarrassing stuff about the Humane 5 sans Sunset Shimmer and, naturally, they come to the conclusion that Sunset may have something to do with it. So do they talk about it like rational adults? Haha, no. Instead, they decide to take the "realistic" approach and [[WithFriendsLikeThese angrily lambaste Sunset, sending her into a depression]]. [[SarcasmMode Great friendship there, by the way; Twilight made the right decision entrusting Sunset with you!]] So does Sunset try and make things right, somehow? [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot Nope]]; instead, the actual Anon-a-Miss reveals herself to be the Cutie Mark Crusaders, as [[DisproportionateRetribution Apple Bloom was jealous of how much time Applejack spent with Sunset over her]]. The other two aren't even justified. And the Humane 5 just... [[EasilyForgiven simply forgive them]]. Yep; they're willing to turn on Sunset over something she didn't do, but when the real culprit comes up they're all "Oh okay, that's perfectly fine!" This actually made me hate ''every'' human present not named Sunset Shimmer because of these actions, at least in the comics, because of this sheer [[{{Jerkass}} jerkassery]] and [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocrisy]]. From that day on, [[FanonDiscontinuity I stopped counting the comics as canon]] (the only exceptions being the villains' backstory comics until proven otherwise) and only checked in on them once in a while to see what they were up to. And as the above entries show, I made the right choice, and I'm happy this is mere supplementary material ([[DethroningMoment/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic the show itself already has enough of these entries as is]]).
14th Dec '17 2:32:23 PM Anddrix
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* Tropers/{{Samadhir}}: Due to the rather [[LoveItOrHateIt polarizing]] nature of Creator/GarthEnnis' magnum opus ''ComicBook/{{Preacher}}'', most readers seem to have at least one moment or issue in it that they consider the [[DarthWiki/DethroningMomentOfSuck dethroning]] one. For me, its the spin-off story ''Tall in the Saddle'', about Custer and Tulip's early days as carjackers, and their attempt to stop a ring of horse thieves from kidnapping young horses and selling their meat to restaurants in Europe. The story isn't interesting, tells us nothing new or meaningful about the characters, and towards the end simply feels like an excuse for Ennis to indulge in his taste for shock value, with 2 consecutive pages devoted to images of horses being graphically slaughtered and cut up, [[MadeofPlasticine a guy's eyeball popping out of his head after a kick to the jaw and someone's head bursting apart when being kicked by a horse]]. It ends with Custer taking the leader of the ring, a ridiculously over-the-top stereotypical Frenchman named [[FamousNamedForeigner Napoleon Vichy]], out into the desert and hanging him from a tree, where we get a loving close-up of him [[NoDeadBodyPoops pissing and shitting himself]] [[{{Squick}} after having asphyxiated]].

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* Tropers/{{Samadhir}}: Due to the rather [[LoveItOrHateIt polarizing]] polarizing nature of Creator/GarthEnnis' magnum opus ''ComicBook/{{Preacher}}'', most readers seem to have at least one moment or issue in it that they consider the [[DarthWiki/DethroningMomentOfSuck dethroning]] one. For me, its the spin-off story ''Tall in the Saddle'', about Custer and Tulip's early days as carjackers, and their attempt to stop a ring of horse thieves from kidnapping young horses and selling their meat to restaurants in Europe. The story isn't interesting, tells us nothing new or meaningful about the characters, and towards the end simply feels like an excuse for Ennis to indulge in his taste for shock value, with 2 consecutive pages devoted to images of horses being graphically slaughtered and cut up, [[MadeofPlasticine a guy's eyeball popping out of his head after a kick to the jaw and someone's head bursting apart when being kicked by a horse]]. It ends with Custer taking the leader of the ring, a ridiculously over-the-top stereotypical Frenchman named [[FamousNamedForeigner Napoleon Vichy]], out into the desert and hanging him from a tree, where we get a loving close-up of him [[NoDeadBodyPoops pissing and shitting himself]] [[{{Squick}} after having asphyxiated]].
4th Dec '17 9:50:12 AM KoopaKid17
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* Tropers/{{KoopaKid17}}: The ''ComicBook/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDW'' comic is a somewhat faithful adaptation of [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic the cartoon it's based on]]. However, the comic has recently started ruining heartwarming moments with MoodWhiplash like the cartoon. The ending to "Don't You Forget About Us" (Issue 38 to 39) has the worst of such moments, focusing on [[ThoseTwoGuys Snips and Snails]] who become lost in the woods with the Cutie Mark Crusaders, Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon. The two colts save Sweetie Belle from being [[BearsAreBadNews mauled by a bear]] and they help pull Apple Bloom and Diamond Tiara to safety when they're about to fall off a cliff. Later on, they bemoan their roles as the dunces of Ponyville and confess that they have feelings, too. I'm not afraid to admit that Snips and Snails deserve more respect in the fandom and the comic did a great job addressing it. But what happens in the end after the foals are rescued? Snails tells the Cutie Mark Crusaders that he and Snips [[UngratefulBastard won't hang out with them]] and the Crusaders think they deserve their cutie marks [[SurroundedByIdiots just for surviving with the two colts]]. Character development down the drain. If they can make Diamond Tiara be friends with the Cutie Mark Crusaders, why not Snips and Snails? The colts proved to the fillies that they were NotSoDifferent but StatusQuoIsGod stepped in, and the ending felt like a punch in the gut. What a waste.

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Tropers/{{KoopaKid17}}: The ''ComicBook/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDW'' comic is a ''My Little Pony'' comics are somewhat faithful adaptation of to [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic the cartoon it's based on]]. However, the comic has recently started ruining cartoons]], even if both tend to ruin heartwarming moments endings with MoodWhiplash like the cartoon. The ending to MoodWhiplash. "Don't You Forget About Us" (Issue 38 to 39) has the worst of such moments, focusing on [[ThoseTwoGuys Snips and Snails]] who become lost in the woods with the Cutie Mark Crusaders, Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon. The two colts save Sweetie Belle from being [[BearsAreBadNews mauled by a bear]] and they help pull Apple Bloom and Diamond Tiara to safety when they're about to fall off a cliff. Later on, they bemoan their roles as the dunces of Ponyville and confess that they have feelings, too. I'm not afraid to admit that Snips and Snails deserve more respect in the fandom and the comic did a great job addressing it. But what happens in the end after the foals are rescued? Snails tells the Cutie Mark Crusaders that he and Snips [[UngratefulBastard won't hang out with them]] and the Crusaders think they deserve their cutie marks [[SurroundedByIdiots just for surviving with the two colts]]. Character development down the drain. If they can make Diamond Tiara be friends with the Cutie Mark Crusaders, why not Snips and Snails? The colts proved to the fillies that they were NotSoDifferent but StatusQuoIsGod stepped in, and the ending felt like a punch in the gut. What a waste.



** Tropers/{{Godzillawolf}}: This is not helped by the fact that the worfing of the Elements is done in such a way as to render the Arc's entire moral a BrokenAesop. The story talks so much about how Accord's absolute order is just as bad as Discord's absolute chaos was, and how harmony isn't absolute order, but rather a mix of chaos and order. In fact, it's this very poin' that makes Accord willingly transform back into Discord. And yet the justification for the Elements not working on Accord is he's "absolute order", implying that absolute order ''is'' harmony as far as the Elements are concerned.

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** *** Tropers/{{Godzillawolf}}: This is not helped by the fact that the worfing of the Elements is done in such a way as to render the Arc's entire moral a BrokenAesop. The story talks so much about how Accord's absolute order is just as bad as Discord's absolute chaos was, and how harmony isn't absolute order, but rather a mix of chaos and order. In fact, it's this very poin' that makes Accord willingly transform back into Discord. And yet the justification for the Elements not working on Accord is he's "absolute order", implying that absolute order ''is'' harmony as far as the Elements are concerned.
28th Nov '17 7:04:08 PM SenorCornholio
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25th Nov '17 9:30:05 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Tropers/{{TommyTiger}}: Removing my former entry for something worse: "Paperino e i Gamberi in Salmì". It seems OK, but the ending is [[DudeNotFunny not funny at all]].all. It ends with Scrooge's brother Gedeon giving Huey, Dewey and Louie a parody of the "Pulitzer" prize. Then, he gives it to Donald because they're too young. Good so far. But the ''final'' panel shows the three [[WhatTheHellHero running Donald out of town]] town and saying "[[YoureNotMyFather You're not our uncle]]... you're a medal snatcher!" (that's right, three kids who are commonly portrayed as intelligent, caring persons resort to disowning their own uncle over '''a medal''' of all things) when he didn't steal it from them ([[SarcasmMode Because Donald being given a badge that was initially for them before Gedeon realized they're too young]] [[note]]He shouldn't have given them the Pulitzer stand-in to begin with because that would make this crapfest of an ending impossible to happen[[/note]] [[SarcasmMode is totally stealing it from them]]), [[OutOfCharacterMoment which is absolutely unexpected for the three]]. And ''[[NoEnding that's how it ends]]''. We're not shown what they wanted to do to him (even though it's very unlikely because they aren't monsters, ''[[FridgeHorror what would happen if they wanted to kill him?]]''), or if Donald [[KarmaHoudini got back at them]]. Now Donald Duck can be a jerk sometimes (all the characters can) but that one went beyond mean, especially since he gets completely treated like something a dog crapped out by the end for something he's one hundred percent innocent of. Even though I still won't hate them due to still being noble (''WesternAnimation/{{Ducktales}}'' comes to mind) and the rest of the comic being admittedly good, it still pisses me off a lot. Yes, they're kids and yes, that's what kids often do but we're talking about three characters who are often portrayed as intelligent and caring running an adult who, whilst frequently a jerk, has been shown to genuinely love and care for them on a vast multitude of occasions. Case in point: the [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments absolutely nice]] story where they complained to each other about Donald's many flaws only to suddenly realize that no matter if Donald is a big success or not, he still takes care of them, cooks for them, makes sure they're clothed and happy, and on the whole uses a lot more money on them than he does on himself, feel guilt and resolve to start appreciating their uncle a little more in the future. AesopAmnesia much?

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** Tropers/{{TommyTiger}}: Removing my former entry for something worse: "Paperino e i Gamberi in Salmì". It seems OK, but the ending is [[DudeNotFunny not funny at all]].all. It ends with Scrooge's brother Gedeon giving Huey, Dewey and Louie a parody of the "Pulitzer" prize. Then, he gives it to Donald because they're too young. Good so far. But the ''final'' panel shows the three [[WhatTheHellHero running Donald out of town]] town town and saying "[[YoureNotMyFather You're not our uncle]]... you're a medal snatcher!" (that's right, three kids who are commonly portrayed as intelligent, caring persons resort to disowning their own uncle over '''a medal''' of all things) when he didn't steal it from them ([[SarcasmMode Because Donald being given a badge that was initially for them before Gedeon realized they're too young]] [[note]]He shouldn't have given them the Pulitzer stand-in to begin with because that would make this crapfest of an ending impossible to happen[[/note]] [[SarcasmMode is totally stealing it from them]]), [[OutOfCharacterMoment which is absolutely unexpected for the three]]. And ''[[NoEnding that's how it ends]]''. We're not shown what they wanted to do to him (even though it's very unlikely because they aren't monsters, ''[[FridgeHorror what would happen if they wanted to kill him?]]''), or if Donald [[KarmaHoudini got back at them]]. Now Donald Duck can be a jerk sometimes (all the characters can) but that one went beyond mean, especially since he gets completely treated like something a dog crapped out by the end for something he's one hundred percent innocent of. Even though I still won't hate them due to still being noble (''WesternAnimation/{{Ducktales}}'' comes to mind) and the rest of the comic being admittedly good, it still pisses me off a lot. Yes, they're kids and yes, that's what kids often do but we're talking about three characters who are often portrayed as intelligent and caring running an adult who, whilst frequently a jerk, has been shown to genuinely love and care for them on a vast multitude of occasions. Case in point: the [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments absolutely nice]] story where they complained to each other about Donald's many flaws only to suddenly realize that no matter if Donald is a big success or not, he still takes care of them, cooks for them, makes sure they're clothed and happy, and on the whole uses a lot more money on them than he does on himself, feel guilt and resolve to start appreciating their uncle a little more in the future. AesopAmnesia much?
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