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26th Sep '16 12:14:07 PM Animeking1108
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* Animeking1108: ''LightNovel/Durarara'' is a great series, but the episode going into Izumii and Aoba's backstory rubbed me the wrong way. We get a flashback where after Izumii's room was on fire, we see his father yelling at him and then breaking his nose. We then learn that Aoba set it up just to get back at Izumii [[DisproportionateRetribution for hitting him]]. Apparently, the Light Novel showed Izumii's abuse in more detail, but in the anime, it was only mentioned. Keep in mind, at this point, Izumii's worst crime was being a BigBrotherBully, which [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotHeinous is just jerkass behavior at worst and not uncommon in society]]. This was before he [[spoiler: broke Saki's legs]] and [[spoiler: threatened to rape Earthworm]], but were still supposed to take Aoba's side because Izumii was a dick to him. Hell, if anything, [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Aoba subjecting Izumii to child abuse is probably]] [[StartOfDarkness why he turned into such a violent sociopath in the first place]].

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* Animeking1108: ''LightNovel/Durarara'' ''LightNovel/{{Durarara}}'' is a great series, but the episode going into Izumii and Aoba's backstory rubbed me the wrong way. We get a flashback where after Izumii's room was on fire, we see his father yelling at him and then breaking his nose. We then learn that Aoba set it up just to get back at Izumii [[DisproportionateRetribution for hitting him]]. Apparently, the Light Novel showed Izumii's abuse in more detail, but in the anime, it was only mentioned. Keep in mind, at this point, Izumii's worst crime was being a BigBrotherBully, which [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotHeinous is just jerkass behavior at worst and not uncommon in society]]. This was before he [[spoiler: broke Saki's legs]] and [[spoiler: threatened to rape Earthworm]], but were still supposed to take Aoba's side because Izumii was a dick to him. Hell, if anything, [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Aoba subjecting Izumii to child abuse is probably]] [[StartOfDarkness why he turned into such a violent sociopath in the first place]].
26th Sep '16 12:12:33 PM Animeking1108
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* NonoRobot: ''Anime/Danganronpa3'' ended up being an immense disappointment, mainly because it directly contradicts ''VideoGame/Danganronpa2'': in DG2, it is [[https://i.imgur.com/07r5cn0.jpg explicitly said]] that [[spoiler:the students fell one by one into despair because of Junko's manipulations, who exploited their weaknesses.]] In the anime proper? [[spoiler:Blunt force brainwashing thanks to a video]]. Such a cheap plot device leaves a bad aftertaste, and this {{retcon}} taints Danganronpa2's characters, making them just [[spoiler:tragic victims of brainwashing instead of true Remnants of Despair who followed Junko out of their twisted vision of love for her. The different kind of corruption weakens the characters and the story overall, and also weakens the main antagonist, who in Danganronpa 1 and 2 was a master of [[BreakThemByTalking Breaking Lectures]].]].

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* NonoRobot: ''Anime/Danganronpa3'' ended up being an immense disappointment, mainly because it directly contradicts ''VideoGame/Danganronpa2'': in DG2, it is [[https://i.imgur.com/07r5cn0.jpg explicitly said]] that [[spoiler:the students fell one by one into despair because of Junko's manipulations, who exploited their weaknesses.]] In the anime proper? [[spoiler:Blunt force brainwashing thanks to a video]]. Such a cheap plot device leaves a bad aftertaste, and this {{retcon}} taints Danganronpa2's characters, making them just [[spoiler:tragic victims of brainwashing instead of true Remnants of Despair who followed Junko out of their twisted vision of love for her. The different kind of corruption weakens the characters and the story overall, and also weakens the main antagonist, who in Danganronpa 1 and 2 was a master of [[BreakThemByTalking Breaking Lectures]].]].]].
* Animeking1108: ''LightNovel/Durarara'' is a great series, but the episode going into Izumii and Aoba's backstory rubbed me the wrong way. We get a flashback where after Izumii's room was on fire, we see his father yelling at him and then breaking his nose. We then learn that Aoba set it up just to get back at Izumii [[DisproportionateRetribution for hitting him]]. Apparently, the Light Novel showed Izumii's abuse in more detail, but in the anime, it was only mentioned. Keep in mind, at this point, Izumii's worst crime was being a BigBrotherBully, which [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotHeinous is just jerkass behavior at worst and not uncommon in society]]. This was before he [[spoiler: broke Saki's legs]] and [[spoiler: threatened to rape Earthworm]], but were still supposed to take Aoba's side because Izumii was a dick to him. Hell, if anything, [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Aoba subjecting Izumii to child abuse is probably]] [[StartOfDarkness why he turned into such a violent sociopath in the first place]].
17th Sep '16 2:32:17 AM NonoRobot
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* NonoRobot: ''Anime/Danganronpa3'' ended up being an immense disappointment, mainly because it directly contradicts ''VideoGame/Danganronpa2'': in DG2, it is [[https://i.imgur.com/07r5cn0.jpg explicitly said]] that [[spoiler:the students fell one by one into despair because of Junko's manipulations, who exploited their weaknesses.]] In the anime proper? [[spoiler:Blunt force brainwashing thanks to a video]]. Such a cheap plot device leaves a bad aftertaste, and this {{retcon}} taints Danganronpa2's characters, making them just [[spoiler:tragic victims of brainwashing instead of true Remnants of Despair who followed Junko out of their twisted vision of love for her. The different kind of corruption weakens the characters and the story overall]].

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* NonoRobot: ''Anime/Danganronpa3'' ended up being an immense disappointment, mainly because it directly contradicts ''VideoGame/Danganronpa2'': in DG2, it is [[https://i.imgur.com/07r5cn0.jpg explicitly said]] that [[spoiler:the students fell one by one into despair because of Junko's manipulations, who exploited their weaknesses.]] In the anime proper? [[spoiler:Blunt force brainwashing thanks to a video]]. Such a cheap plot device leaves a bad aftertaste, and this {{retcon}} taints Danganronpa2's characters, making them just [[spoiler:tragic victims of brainwashing instead of true Remnants of Despair who followed Junko out of their twisted vision of love for her. The different kind of corruption weakens the characters and the story overall]].overall, and also weakens the main antagonist, who in Danganronpa 1 and 2 was a master of [[BreakThemByTalking Breaking Lectures]].]].
16th Sep '16 2:43:52 PM NonoRobot
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* Animeking1108: I honestly envy fans of ''Manga/TheSevenDeadlySins'' that can put up with [[DesignatedHero Meliodas's]] [[AllMenArePerverts behavior]]. I immediately dropped the series when he groped Elizabeth [[DudeShesLikeInAComa while she was unconscious]], and throughout the episode, [[KarmaHoudini nobody calls him out on it]]. Much to my disappointment, throughout the series, Meliodas barely gets a slap on the wrist for it, and to add insult to injury, Elizabeth falls for him. At least whenever characters like [[Manga/YuYuHakusho Yusuke Urameshi]] sexually harass their love interests, they get punched in the face for it.

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* Animeking1108: I honestly envy fans of ''Manga/TheSevenDeadlySins'' that can put up with [[DesignatedHero Meliodas's]] [[AllMenArePerverts behavior]]. I immediately dropped the series when he groped Elizabeth [[DudeShesLikeInAComa while she was unconscious]], and throughout the episode, [[KarmaHoudini nobody calls him out on it]]. Much to my disappointment, throughout the series, Meliodas barely gets a slap on the wrist for it, and to add insult to injury, Elizabeth falls for him. At least whenever characters like [[Manga/YuYuHakusho Yusuke Urameshi]] sexually harass their love interests, they get punched in the face for it.it.
* NonoRobot: ''Anime/Danganronpa3'' ended up being an immense disappointment, mainly because it directly contradicts ''VideoGame/Danganronpa2'': in DG2, it is [[https://i.imgur.com/07r5cn0.jpg explicitly said]] that [[spoiler:the students fell one by one into despair because of Junko's manipulations, who exploited their weaknesses.]] In the anime proper? [[spoiler:Blunt force brainwashing thanks to a video]]. Such a cheap plot device leaves a bad aftertaste, and this {{retcon}} taints Danganronpa2's characters, making them just [[spoiler:tragic victims of brainwashing instead of true Remnants of Despair who followed Junko out of their twisted vision of love for her. The different kind of corruption weakens the characters and the story overall]].
9th Sep '16 3:03:50 PM Animeking1108
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* Riley1sCool: I'm not huge on it when shows go DarkerAndEdgier. And as one of the few fans of the anime of Manga/BlackButler's season 2, I felt fairly screwed over when it was declared non-canon, as TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot. However, the kicker here is that they quickly adapt the "Book of Circus", a ten-episode arc focused on adapting the manga as faithfully as possible, with no mention of any of the anime's previous original events, which ended with [[spoiler: Ciel going LaughingMad and [[MoralEventHorizon murdering a bunch of children]]]], which, of course, is entirely inconsequential to the next storyline for manga faithfulness. What the hell? Why can't these people just make a story and stick with it?

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* Riley1sCool: I'm not huge on it when shows go DarkerAndEdgier. And as one of the few fans of the anime of Manga/BlackButler's season 2, I felt fairly screwed over when it was declared non-canon, as TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot. However, the kicker here is that they quickly adapt the "Book of Circus", a ten-episode arc focused on adapting the manga as faithfully as possible, with no mention of any of the anime's previous original events, which ended with [[spoiler: Ciel going LaughingMad and [[MoralEventHorizon murdering a bunch of children]]]], which, of course, is entirely inconsequential to the next storyline for manga faithfulness. What the hell? Why can't these people just make a story and stick with it?it?
* Animeking1108: I honestly envy fans of ''Manga/TheSevenDeadlySins'' that can put up with [[DesignatedHero Meliodas's]] [[AllMenArePerverts behavior]]. I immediately dropped the series when he groped Elizabeth [[DudeShesLikeInAComa while she was unconscious]], and throughout the episode, [[KarmaHoudini nobody calls him out on it]]. Much to my disappointment, throughout the series, Meliodas barely gets a slap on the wrist for it, and to add insult to injury, Elizabeth falls for him. At least whenever characters like [[Manga/YuYuHakusho Yusuke Urameshi]] sexually harass their love interests, they get punched in the face for it.
15th Aug '16 1:22:27 PM Animeking1108
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* Animeking1108: ''Manga/BlueExorcist'' for the same reason. After the second episode established Satan as an AxeCrazy sociopath, they reveal that [[spoiler: he and Rin and Yukio’s mother, Yuri, mutually loved each other]]. This is problematic for a few reasons, but the biggest one is that this plot twist, along with the filler in this '''one season, 25 episode anime,''' gives the viewer a hint that A1 Studios was [[WritingByTheSeatOfYourPants making things up as they went along]].
4th Aug '16 3:29:00 PM MagBas
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* bisonx: ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikers''. I really hated episode 17 of the anime. In what is quite possibly one of the series' [[DarkestHour darkest moments]], it just has the bad guys [[CurbStompBattle brutally curbstomping]] the heroes repeatedly, attacking and destroying Riot Force 6's HQ and the site of the press conference, kidnapping Ginga and Vivio, and in the case of Ginga, almost getting killed in the process. So in short, the good guys had just got their asses kicked. The episode [[DownerEnding ended]] [[ShootTheShaggyDog with]] [[BigBad Dr. Jail Scaglietti]] [[EvilLaugh laughing triumphantly]] in the face of the heroes. I also didn't like the climax of the series either, when the StormingTheCastle moment had [[TheHero Nanoha]] go after [[TheDragon Quattro]] and [[TheLancer Fate]] go after [[BigBad Dr. Scaglietti]] when it should have been the other way around. I personally think it should have had Dr. Scaglietti kidnap Vivio and have Nanoha go after Dr. Scaglietti, not have Quattro kidnap Vivio and have Nanoha go after her instead. And the worst part? Nanoha and Fate don't even kill Dr. Scaglietti and Quattro in spite of what they did back in episode 17. They just capture and imprison them. All because of Nanoha's stupid "[[DefeatMeansFriendship befriending]]" qualities. It was episode 17 of ''[=StrikerS=]'' and the climax of the anime that [[RageQuit finally made me quit the Nanoha franchise for good]].

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* bisonx: ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikers''. I really hated episode 17 of the anime. In what is quite possibly one of the series' [[DarkestHour darkest moments]], it just has the bad guys [[CurbStompBattle brutally curbstomping]] the heroes repeatedly, attacking and destroying Riot Force 6's HQ and the site of the press conference, kidnapping Ginga and Vivio, and in the case of Ginga, almost getting killed in the process. So in short, the good guys had just got their asses kicked. The episode [[DownerEnding ended]] [[ShootTheShaggyDog with]] [[BigBad Dr. Jail Scaglietti]] [[EvilLaugh laughing triumphantly]] in the face of the heroes. I also didn't like the climax of the series either, when the StormingTheCastle moment had [[TheHero Nanoha]] go after [[TheDragon Quattro]] and [[TheLancer Fate]] go after [[BigBad Dr. Scaglietti]] when it should have been the other way around. I personally think it should have had Dr. Scaglietti kidnap Vivio and have Nanoha go after Dr. Scaglietti, not have Quattro kidnap Vivio and have Nanoha go after her instead. And the worst part? Nanoha and Fate don't even kill Dr. Scaglietti and Quattro in spite of what they did back in episode 17. They just capture and imprison them. All because of Nanoha's stupid "[[DefeatMeansFriendship befriending]]" qualities. It was episode 17 of ''[=StrikerS=]'' and the climax of the anime that [[RageQuit finally made me quit the Nanoha franchise for good]].
23rd Jul '16 12:35:00 AM Riley1sCool
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* PokeNirvash: Normally, I'm not one to hate on anime, even if they're technically not all that good, but ''{{Oreimo}}'' episode 11 was definitely my least favorite, because of the whole scene in Kyosuke's room near the end of the first act. You'd think my problem with it would stem from Kirino being a bitch towards her older brother, as per usual. But that's not the case here. The reason that scene drew my ire was because of how Kyosuke responded to the situation. Or rather, how he didn't respond. If my little sister opened an eroge on her laptop and then placed it on my bedroom desk in an attempt to make my cute childhood friend hate me forever, my first response to it would be to close the effing laptop. So much drama could've been avoided if Kyosuke just closed his laptop, which is a more effective means of hiding scandalous imagery than covering up the screen with your person or even pressing the escape key. Hell, shutting the damn thing down would've been equally satisfactory. But no, he just had to spaz out over the presence of Kirino's PC and the eroge displayed on it instead of using common sense.

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* PokeNirvash: Normally, I'm not one to hate on anime, even if they're technically not all that good, but ''{{Oreimo}}'' episode 11 was definitely my least favorite, because of the whole scene in Kyosuke's room near the end of the first act. You'd think my problem with it would stem from Kirino being a bitch towards her older brother, as per usual. But that's not the case here. The reason that scene drew my ire was because of how Kyosuke responded to the situation. Or rather, how he didn't respond. If my little sister opened an eroge on her laptop and then placed it on my bedroom desk in an attempt to make my cute childhood friend hate me forever, my first response to it would be to close the effing laptop. So much drama could've been avoided if Kyosuke just closed his laptop, which is a more effective means of hiding scandalous imagery than covering up the screen with your person or even pressing the escape key. Hell, shutting the damn thing down would've been equally satisfactory. But no, he just had to spaz out over the presence of Kirino's PC and the eroge displayed on it instead of using common sense.sense.
* Riley1sCool: I'm not huge on it when shows go DarkerAndEdgier. And as one of the few fans of the anime of Manga/BlackButler's season 2, I felt fairly screwed over when it was declared non-canon, as TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot. However, the kicker here is that they quickly adapt the "Book of Circus", a ten-episode arc focused on adapting the manga as faithfully as possible, with no mention of any of the anime's previous original events, which ended with [[spoiler: Ciel going LaughingMad and [[MoralEventHorizon murdering a bunch of children]]]], which, of course, is entirely inconsequential to the next storyline for manga faithfulness. What the hell? Why can't these people just make a story and stick with it?
14th Jul '16 12:59:02 PM Willbyr
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* Tropers/AustinDR: In the second season of ''SquidGirl'', there was the third episode in which Alex (Sanae's dog) gets jealous of Squid Girl, and bites her on the leg [[DisproportionateRetribution just because Sanae showed more affection towards Ika Musume rather than him]]. Sanae then comes up with the solution to have Ika walk Alex. After going through a lot of trials and tribulations, you could say that they formed a respect for each other; only to have that respect go completely out the window when Sanae [[WhatAnIdiot still shows more affection towards Ika and not seeming to remember that that was the reason for his animosity towards Ika in the first place]]. So at the end, he bites Squid Girl on the leg again, and StatusQuoIsGod. The first part of the episode could've worked had Sanae also given Alex a hug, but no, she just has to completely ignore him for Squid Girl, even though it's blatant that Squid Girl dislikes her.

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* Tropers/AustinDR: In the second season of ''SquidGirl'', ''Manga/ShinryakuIkaMusume'', there was the third episode in which Alex (Sanae's dog) gets jealous of Squid Girl, and bites her on the leg [[DisproportionateRetribution just because Sanae showed more affection towards Ika Musume rather than him]]. Sanae then comes up with the solution to have Ika walk Alex. After going through a lot of trials and tribulations, you could say that they formed a respect for each other; only to have that respect go completely out the window when Sanae [[WhatAnIdiot still shows more affection towards Ika and not seeming to remember that that was the reason for his animosity towards Ika in the first place]]. So at the end, he bites Squid Girl on the leg again, and StatusQuoIsGod. The first part of the episode could've worked had Sanae also given Alex a hug, but no, she just has to completely ignore him for Squid Girl, even though it's blatant that Squid Girl dislikes her.
24th Jun '16 1:55:04 AM Aasivar
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* DiscoGlacier: Episode 8 of ''Anime/GirlsUndPanzer'' titled "Against Pravda!", in which [[IdiotBall Oarai ignores Miho's carefully thought-out strategy]] [[LeeroyJenkins in favor of a last-minute idea to rush their opponent]], Prava, [[BullyingADragon despite Prava having more and stronger tanks than them]]. Their recklessness leads to them [[spoiler:following a decoy into Prava's trap]], despite Oarai themselves having used this tactic before and thus should've known better. This is especially cringe-worthy considering that the fate of [[spoiler:Oarai Girls' Academy]] rested on this one battle, and that both the Student Council and Kawashima knew about this; why would they support such a risky tactic if it was going to [[spoiler:needlessly jeopardize their school]]? Despite this, the episode's not all bad: the Prava girls are interesting characters, and their [[AwesomeMusic musical number]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=preEB840TXs is kickass]].

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* DiscoGlacier: Episode 8 of ''Anime/GirlsUndPanzer'' titled "Against Pravda!", in which [[IdiotBall Oarai ignores Miho's carefully thought-out strategy]] [[LeeroyJenkins in favor of a last-minute idea to rush their opponent]], Prava, Pravda, [[BullyingADragon despite Prava Pravda having more and stronger tanks than them]]. Their recklessness leads to them [[spoiler:following a decoy into Prava's Pravda's trap]], despite Oarai themselves having used this tactic before and thus should've known better. This is especially cringe-worthy considering that the fate of [[spoiler:Oarai Girls' Academy]] rested on this one battle, and that both the Student Council and Kawashima knew about this; why would they support such a risky tactic if it was going to [[spoiler:needlessly jeopardize their school]]? Despite this, the episode's not all bad: the Prava Pravda girls are interesting characters, and their [[AwesomeMusic musical number]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=preEB840TXs is kickass]].
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