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24th Mar '17 9:46:05 AM AL19
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24th Mar '17 9:45:58 AM AL19
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* Tropers/AL19: I've always hated the Scandal Arc in ''{{Manga/Gintama}}'' ever since I watched it back in late 2011. I get that this was supposed to be a parody of the HaremGenre, but I found none of it to be funny (And considering my already huge dislike for the HaremGenre, this arc didn't help any) - minus the part where Kyubei's face was a censor - and only thought of it as mostly Gintoki TorturePorn (I can accept Gintoki being a ButtMonkey and all, but I felt like the characters in his "harem" took it too far here). But the biggest DMOS for me was at the end of said arc, where [[spoiler: Gintoki finds out he'd been punk'd, and his "friends" all laugh at his recorded reaction (No, I don't know how they were able to record him)]]. Even by ''{{Manga/Gintama}}'' standards, that was exceptionally cruel. And this was supposed to make him stop drinking! [[FridgeLogic I'm sorry, but how would pulling prank on him like that make him stop drinking? I'm pretty sure it would only make him drink more to forget this ordeal.]] In my opinion, this is by far the worst arc in this series.

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* Tropers/AL19: I've always hated the Scandal Arc in ''{{Manga/Gintama}}'' ever since I watched it back in late 2011. I get that this was supposed to be a parody of the HaremGenre, but I found none of it to be funny (And considering my already huge dislike for the HaremGenre, this arc didn't help any) - minus the part where Kyubei's face was a censor - and only thought of it as mostly Gintoki TorturePorn (I can accept Gintoki being a ButtMonkey and all, but I felt like the characters in his "harem" took it too far here). But the biggest DMOS for me was at the end of said arc, where [[spoiler: Gintoki finds out he'd been punk'd, and his "friends" all laugh at his recorded reaction (No, I don't know how they were able to record him)]]. Even by ''{{Manga/Gintama}}'' standards, that was exceptionally cruel. And this was supposed to make him stop drinking! [[FridgeLogic I'm sorry, but how would pulling a prank on him like that make him stop drinking? I'm pretty sure it would only make him drink more to forget this ordeal.]] In my opinion, this is by far the worst arc in this series.
22nd Mar '17 9:32:25 PM Retloclive
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* Retloclive: I've come to really enjoy the ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' series, but one moment that really rubbed me the wrong way was the Midoriya vs. Shinsou match during the "Sports Festival arc". To sum the fight up, Midoriya was on the verge of losing, because he was about to be forced out of the arena ring under the control of Shinsou's brainwash power. However, Midoriya's One for All power kicks in within his mind at the last second to allow Midoriya to hit himself, which broke Shinsou's control over Midoriya since damage to the target ended up being the brainwash power's weakness. For a series that tries real hard to show off how knowledgeable and resourceful Midoriya is when it comes to his character and way of fighting, it was really disappointing that it took quite a blatant {{Asspull}} to help Midoriya get passed a brainwashing power instead of trying to learn how to counter it.

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* Retloclive: I've come to really enjoy the ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' series, but one moment that really rubbed me the wrong way was the Midoriya vs. Shinsou match during the "Sports Festival arc". To sum the fight up, Midoriya was on the verge of losing, because he was about to be forced out of the arena ring under the control of Shinsou's brainwash power. However, Midoriya's One for All power kicks in within his mind at the last second to allow Midoriya to hit himself, which broke Shinsou's control over Midoriya since damage to the target ended up being the brainwash power's weakness. For a series that tries real hard to show off how knowledgeable and resourceful Midoriya is when it comes to his character and way of fighting, it was really disappointing that it took quite a blatant {{Asspull}} to help Midoriya get passed a brainwashing power instead of trying to learn how to counter it.
22nd Mar '17 9:29:02 PM Retloclive
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* Retloclive: I've come to really enjoy the ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' series, but one moment that really rubbed me the wrong way was the Midoriya vs. Shinsou match during the "Sports Festival arc". To sum the fight up, Midoriya was on the verge of losing, because he was about to be forced out of the arena ring under the control of Shinsou's brainwash power. However, Midoriya's One for All power kicks in within his mind at the last second to allow Midoriya to hit himself, which broke Shinsou's control over Midoriya since damage to the target ended up being the brainwash power's weakness. For a series that tries real hard to show off how knowledgeable and resourceful Midoriya is when it comes to his character and way of fighting, it was really disappointing that it took quite a blatant {{Asspull}} to help Midoriya get passed a brainwashing power.

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* Retloclive: I've come to really enjoy the ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' series, but one moment that really rubbed me the wrong way was the Midoriya vs. Shinsou match during the "Sports Festival arc". To sum the fight up, Midoriya was on the verge of losing, because he was about to be forced out of the arena ring under the control of Shinsou's brainwash power. However, Midoriya's One for All power kicks in within his mind at the last second to allow Midoriya to hit himself, which broke Shinsou's control over Midoriya since damage to the target ended up being the brainwash power's weakness. For a series that tries real hard to show off how knowledgeable and resourceful Midoriya is when it comes to his character and way of fighting, it was really disappointing that it took quite a blatant {{Asspull}} to help Midoriya get passed a brainwashing power.power instead of trying to learn how to counter it.
22nd Mar '17 9:28:19 PM Retloclive
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* Retloclive: I've come to really enjoy the ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' series, but one moment that really rubbed me the wrong way was the Midoriya vs. Shinsou match during the "Sports Festival arc". To sum the fight up, Midoriya was on the verge of losing, because he was about to be forced out of the arena ring under the control of Shinsou's brainwash power. However, Midoriya's One for All power kicks in within his mind at the last second to allow Midoriya to hit himself, which broke Shinsou's control over Midoriya since damage to the target ended up being the brainwash power's weakness. For a series that tries real hard to show off how knowledgeable and resourceful Midoriya is when it comes to his character and way of fighting, it was really disappointing that it took a really blatant {{Asspull}} to help Midoriya get passed a brainwashing power.

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* Retloclive: I've come to really enjoy the ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' series, but one moment that really rubbed me the wrong way was the Midoriya vs. Shinsou match during the "Sports Festival arc". To sum the fight up, Midoriya was on the verge of losing, because he was about to be forced out of the arena ring under the control of Shinsou's brainwash power. However, Midoriya's One for All power kicks in within his mind at the last second to allow Midoriya to hit himself, which broke Shinsou's control over Midoriya since damage to the target ended up being the brainwash power's weakness. For a series that tries real hard to show off how knowledgeable and resourceful Midoriya is when it comes to his character and way of fighting, it was really disappointing that it took quite a really blatant {{Asspull}} to help Midoriya get passed a brainwashing power.
22nd Mar '17 9:24:07 PM Retloclive
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* Retloclive: I've come to really enjoy the ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' series, but one moment that really rubbed me the wrong way was the Midoriya vs. Shinsou match during the "Sports Festival arc". To sum the fight up, Midoriya was on the verge of losing, because he was about to be forced out of the arena ring under the control of Shinsou's brainwash power. However, Midoriya's One for All power kicks in within his mind at the last second to allow him to hit himself, which broke Shinsou's control over Midoriya since damage to the target ended up being the brainwash power's weakness. For a series that tries real hard to show off how knowledgeable and resourceful Midoriya is when it comes to his character and way of fighting, it was really disappointing that it took a really blatant {{Asspull}} to help Midoriya get passed a brainwashing power.

to:

* Retloclive: I've come to really enjoy the ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' series, but one moment that really rubbed me the wrong way was the Midoriya vs. Shinsou match during the "Sports Festival arc". To sum the fight up, Midoriya was on the verge of losing, because he was about to be forced out of the arena ring under the control of Shinsou's brainwash power. However, Midoriya's One for All power kicks in within his mind at the last second to allow him Midoriya to hit himself, which broke Shinsou's control over Midoriya since damage to the target ended up being the brainwash power's weakness. For a series that tries real hard to show off how knowledgeable and resourceful Midoriya is when it comes to his character and way of fighting, it was really disappointing that it took a really blatant {{Asspull}} to help Midoriya get passed a brainwashing power.
22nd Mar '17 9:22:36 PM Retloclive
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* Retloclive: What goes down in the God-of-Death arc for ''Manga/AssassinationClassroom'' turned out to be incredibly disappointing given the hype that was being built up. You have the introduction of the villain character for this arc with the potential to allow for the series to enter GrowingTheBeard territory with the E-class students finally entering serious territory, and taking on the world's greatest assassin. The arc even hypes this "god assassin" up perfectly by killing off two other characters that had become [[EnsembleDarkhorse fan favorites]] of the readers. Only... that doesn't turn out to be the case as both assassins turn out alive and well by the end of the arc. The hype regarding the greatest assassin is now all but destroyed, and the only thing remaining amounts to nothing but Karasuma fan-service taking down a so called "God of Death" that failed to actually kill anyone by the end of it all. Such wasted potential.
** Minor edit: even though it was later revealed that [[spoiler: Korosensei was actually the ''true'' God-of-Death]], I still feel the same way regarding the issues I have with this arc.

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* Retloclive: What goes down in the God-of-Death arc for ''Manga/AssassinationClassroom'' turned out to be incredibly disappointing given the hype that was being built up. You have the introduction of the villain character for this arc with the potential to allow for the series to enter GrowingTheBeard territory with the E-class students finally entering serious territory, and taking on the world's greatest assassin. The arc even hypes this "god assassin" up perfectly by killing off two other characters that had become [[EnsembleDarkhorse fan favorites]] of the readers. Only... that doesn't turn out to be the case as both assassins turn out alive and well by the end of the arc. The hype regarding the greatest assassin is now all but destroyed, and the only thing remaining amounts to nothing but Karasuma fan-service taking down a so called "God of Death" that failed to actually kill anyone by the end of it all. Such wasted potential.
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potential. Minor edit: even though it was later revealed that [[spoiler: Korosensei was actually the ''true'' God-of-Death]], I still feel the same way regarding the issues I have with this arc.



* Hyoroemon: LightNovel/ShakuganNoShana is a story of demons (Crimsons) and ghost that make contract with some of said demons (Flame Haze) to enact their revenge. In season 3 the main character merged with big bad to put and end to this thousand years war. MC explain his plan to move Crimsons to alternate realm (Xanadu) where they can live there without feeding on human (‘s life energy). The only ‘problem’ is Flame Haze have spent years of their live just to slay Crimsons and allowing them to move Xanadu would leave them with nothing to do. It is really enraging seeing Flame Haze’s motivation to stop The Organization in 2nd half of season 3 is not to protect human anymore (not that the demons still targeting them), but they are doing it so they don’t lose their purpose: to fight. Everyone from ‘good guy’ team agree on attacking/genociding Crimsons to stop this. And how [[spoiler: the Crimsons doesn’t bother much to fight while getting slaughtered]] make people empathize with the bad guy instead.

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* Hyoroemon: LightNovel/ShakuganNoShana ''LightNovel/ShakuganNoShana'' is a story of demons (Crimsons) and ghost that make contract with some of said demons (Flame Haze) to enact their revenge. In season 3 the main character merged with big bad to put and end to this thousand years war. MC explain his plan to move Crimsons to alternate realm (Xanadu) where they can live there without feeding on human (‘s life energy). The only ‘problem’ is Flame Haze have spent years of their live just to slay Crimsons and allowing them to move Xanadu would leave them with nothing to do. It is really enraging seeing Flame Haze’s motivation to stop The Organization in 2nd half of season 3 is not to protect human anymore (not that the demons still targeting them), but they are doing it so they don’t lose their purpose: to fight. Everyone from ‘good guy’ team agree on attacking/genociding Crimsons to stop this. And how [[spoiler: the Crimsons doesn’t bother much to fight while getting slaughtered]] make people empathize with the bad guy instead.instead.
* Retloclive: I've come to really enjoy the ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' series, but one moment that really rubbed me the wrong way was the Midoriya vs. Shinsou match during the "Sports Festival arc". To sum the fight up, Midoriya was on the verge of losing, because he was about to be forced out of the arena ring under the control of Shinsou's brainwash power. However, Midoriya's One for All power kicks in within his mind at the last second to allow him to hit himself, which broke Shinsou's control over Midoriya since damage to the target ended up being the brainwash power's weakness. For a series that tries real hard to show off how knowledgeable and resourceful Midoriya is when it comes to his character and way of fighting, it was really disappointing that it took a really blatant {{Asspull}} to help Midoriya get passed a brainwashing power.
17th Mar '17 8:11:35 AM Hyoroemon
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* Tropers/HeavensString: LightNovel/ShakuganNoShana is a story of demons (Crimsons) and ghost that make contract with some of said demons (Flame Haze) to enact their revenge. In season 3 the main character merged with big bad to put and end to this thousand years war. MC explain his plan to move Crimsons to alternate realm (Xanadu) where they can live there without feeding on human (‘s life energy). The only ‘problem’ is Flame Haze have spent years of their live just to slay Crimsons and allowing them to move Xanadu would leave them with nothing to do. It is really enraging seeing Flame Haze’s motivation to stop The Organization in 2nd half of season 3 is not to protect human anymore (not that the demons still targeting them), but they are doing it so they don’t lose their purpose: to fight. Everyone from ‘good guy’ team agree on attacking/genociding Crimsons to stop this. And how [[spoiler: the Crimsons doesn’t bother much to fight while getting slaughtered]] make people empathize with the bad guy instead.

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* Tropers/HeavensString: Hyoroemon: LightNovel/ShakuganNoShana is a story of demons (Crimsons) and ghost that make contract with some of said demons (Flame Haze) to enact their revenge. In season 3 the main character merged with big bad to put and end to this thousand years war. MC explain his plan to move Crimsons to alternate realm (Xanadu) where they can live there without feeding on human (‘s life energy). The only ‘problem’ is Flame Haze have spent years of their live just to slay Crimsons and allowing them to move Xanadu would leave them with nothing to do. It is really enraging seeing Flame Haze’s motivation to stop The Organization in 2nd half of season 3 is not to protect human anymore (not that the demons still targeting them), but they are doing it so they don’t lose their purpose: to fight. Everyone from ‘good guy’ team agree on attacking/genociding Crimsons to stop this. And how [[spoiler: the Crimsons doesn’t bother much to fight while getting slaughtered]] make people empathize with the bad guy instead.
17th Mar '17 8:09:59 AM Hyoroemon
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* Tropers/AL19: I've always hated the Scandal Arc in ''{{Manga/Gintama}}'' ever since I watched it back in late 2011. I get that this was supposed to be a parody of the HaremGenre, but I found none of it to be funny (And considering my already huge dislike for the HaremGenre, this arc didn't help any) - minus the part where Kyubei's face was a censor - and only thought of it as mostly Gintoki TorturePorn (I can accept Gintoki being a ButtMonkey and all, but I felt like the characters in his "harem" took it too far here). But the biggest DMOS for me was at the end of said arc, where [[spoiler: Gintoki finds out he'd been punk'd, and his "friends" all laugh at his recorded reaction (No, I don't know how they were able to record him)]]. Even by ''{{Manga/Gintama}}'' standards, that was exceptionally cruel. And this was supposed to make him stop drinking! [[FridgeLogic I'm sorry, but how would pulling prank on him like that make him stop drinking? I'm pretty sure it would only make him drink more to forget this ordeal.]] In my opinion, this is by far the worst arc in this series.

to:

* Tropers/AL19: I've always hated the Scandal Arc in ''{{Manga/Gintama}}'' ever since I watched it back in late 2011. I get that this was supposed to be a parody of the HaremGenre, but I found none of it to be funny (And considering my already huge dislike for the HaremGenre, this arc didn't help any) - minus the part where Kyubei's face was a censor - and only thought of it as mostly Gintoki TorturePorn (I can accept Gintoki being a ButtMonkey and all, but I felt like the characters in his "harem" took it too far here). But the biggest DMOS for me was at the end of said arc, where [[spoiler: Gintoki finds out he'd been punk'd, and his "friends" all laugh at his recorded reaction (No, I don't know how they were able to record him)]]. Even by ''{{Manga/Gintama}}'' standards, that was exceptionally cruel. And this was supposed to make him stop drinking! [[FridgeLogic I'm sorry, but how would pulling prank on him like that make him stop drinking? I'm pretty sure it would only make him drink more to forget this ordeal.]] In my opinion, this is by far the worst arc in this series.series.
* Tropers/HeavensString: LightNovel/ShakuganNoShana is a story of demons (Crimsons) and ghost that make contract with some of said demons (Flame Haze) to enact their revenge. In season 3 the main character merged with big bad to put and end to this thousand years war. MC explain his plan to move Crimsons to alternate realm (Xanadu) where they can live there without feeding on human (‘s life energy). The only ‘problem’ is Flame Haze have spent years of their live just to slay Crimsons and allowing them to move Xanadu would leave them with nothing to do. It is really enraging seeing Flame Haze’s motivation to stop The Organization in 2nd half of season 3 is not to protect human anymore (not that the demons still targeting them), but they are doing it so they don’t lose their purpose: to fight. Everyone from ‘good guy’ team agree on attacking/genociding Crimsons to stop this. And how [[spoiler: the Crimsons doesn’t bother much to fight while getting slaughtered]] make people empathize with the bad guy instead.
17th Mar '17 7:02:01 AM Retloclive
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** Retloclive: It's been very tempting for me to drop this series after TheReveal that Bourbon of the Black Organization [[spoiler:is yet another good guy that has infiltrated the organization]]. It just screams of StrictlyFormula of the author, Gosho, being a one-trick-phony after the previous arcs revealed the exact same result that [[spoiler:Kir and Rye were spies that also infiltrated the Black Organization. However, I was a bit more forgiving to these because Rye had already been ousted from the organization in a {{Flashback}}, and Kir's StoryArc was technically the first in the present time to do the spy reveal]]. But I swear, by the time the series finally ends, I wouldn't be surprised one bit if the mysterious Black Organization BigBad is going to be a good guy as well.

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** Retloclive: It's been very tempting for me to drop this series after TheReveal that Bourbon of the Black Organization [[spoiler:is yet another good guy that has infiltrated the organization]].Black Organization]]. It just screams of StrictlyFormula of the author, Gosho, being a one-trick-phony after the previous arcs revealed the exact same result that [[spoiler:Kir and Rye were spies that also infiltrated the Black Organization. However, I was a bit more forgiving to these because Rye had already been ousted from the organization in a {{Flashback}}, and Kir's StoryArc was technically the first in the present time to do the spy reveal]]. But I swear, by the time the series finally ends, I wouldn't be surprised one bit if the mysterious Black Organization BigBad is going turns out to be a good guy as well.
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