History Determinator / Anime

1st Feb '16 9:55:03 PM Willbyr
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* ''VinlandSaga'': Thorfinn will do ''whatever'' is required to earn a duel with Askeladd, even if it's down right suicidal.
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* ''VinlandSaga'': ''Manga/VinlandSaga'': Thorfinn will do ''whatever'' is required to earn a duel with Askeladd, even if it's down right suicidal.
1st Feb '16 9:13:05 PM Willbyr
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* ''{{Blame}}'': Killy. Broken arm? Use the other one. Three-fourths of your body incinerated? Grow a new one. Half of your skull blown off? Just shoot back. Seriously, there is nothing that can stop this killing machine. Now add in the fact that his quest takes 3,000 years to complete, during which he does not complain or quit ''once''. Furthermore, he ''walks'' through the majority of TheCity. The City is roughly a light-year across. * ''BusouRenkin'' not only [[JustifiedTrope justifies]] this behavior in its protagonist Kazuki, it uses it as a major plot point. [[spoiler:The kakugane serving as Kazuki's heart is a highly dangerous, modified version, which has given Kazuki energy-draining abilities and is slowly turning him into a monster.]]
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* ''{{Blame}}'': ''Manga/{{Blame}}'': Killy. Broken arm? Use the other one. Three-fourths of your body incinerated? Grow a new one. Half of your skull blown off? Just shoot back. Seriously, there is nothing that can stop this killing machine. Now add in the fact that his quest takes 3,000 years to complete, during which he does not complain or quit ''once''. Furthermore, he ''walks'' through the majority of TheCity. The City is roughly a light-year across. * ''BusouRenkin'' ''Manga/BusouRenkin'' not only [[JustifiedTrope justifies]] this behavior in its protagonist Kazuki, it uses it as a major plot point. [[spoiler:The kakugane serving as Kazuki's heart is a highly dangerous, modified version, which has given Kazuki energy-draining abilities and is slowly turning him into a monster.]]

* ''ChronoCrusade'': Rosette Christopher, in the manga. She'll do ''anything'' to get her brother back, going as far as making a DealWithTheDevil that would ultimately cost her much of her life to do so. She even [[spoiler:comes BackFromTheDead]], almost entirely by sheer force of will.
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* ''ChronoCrusade'': ''Manga/ChronoCrusade'': Rosette Christopher, in the manga. She'll do ''anything'' to get her brother back, going as far as making a DealWithTheDevil that would ultimately cost her much of her life to do so. She even [[spoiler:comes BackFromTheDead]], almost entirely by sheer force of will.

** Amuro of the original ''MobileSuitGundam'' certainly qualifies, especially in later entries. He's the one UC protagonist to keep returning to the battlefield, war after war, even when it's not required of him, and even though he's suffered a great deal psychologically. He's had a few moments where the stress of battle has gotten to be too much, but he always comes back eventually. The first thing he does after coming out of a TenMinuteRetirement in ''MobileSuitZetaGundam'' is fly a plane into an enemy mobile suit during the middle of a battle. In fact, [[spoiler:his final act in the UC continuity is to ''push an entire asteroid out of Earth's orbit.'']] His resolve prompts even Char to call him crazy... [[spoiler:''but it works.'']]
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** Amuro of the original ''MobileSuitGundam'' ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam'' certainly qualifies, especially in later entries. He's the one UC protagonist to keep returning to the battlefield, war after war, even when it's not required of him, and even though he's suffered a great deal psychologically. He's had a few moments where the stress of battle has gotten to be too much, but he always comes back eventually. The first thing he does after coming out of a TenMinuteRetirement in ''MobileSuitZetaGundam'' is fly a plane into an enemy mobile suit during the middle of a battle. In fact, [[spoiler:his final act in the UC continuity is to ''push an entire asteroid out of Earth's orbit.'']] His resolve prompts even Char to call him crazy... [[spoiler:''but it works.'']]
30th Jan '16 9:26:18 PM KirbyHead
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** Amuro of the original ''MobileSuitGundam'' certainly qualifies, especially in later entries. He's the one UC protagonist to keep returning to the battlefield, war after war, even when it's not required of him, and even though he's suffered a great deal psychologically. He's had a few moments where the stress of battle has gotten to be too much, but he always comes back eventually. The first thing he does after coming out of a TenMinuteRetirement in ''MobileSuitZetaGundam'' is fly a plane into an enemy mobile suit during the middle of a battle. In fact, [[spoiler:his final act in the UC continuity is to ''push an entire asteroid out of Earth's orbit.'']] His resolve prompts even Char to call him crazy... [[spoiler:''but it works.'']]
22nd Jan '16 9:10:07 PM Adept
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* ''SlamDunk'': Most (if not all) of the teams, but in particular the main protagonist Sakuragi Hanamichi, who helps will his team to victory against all odds and a nigh-invincible opponent, [[spoiler: despite crippling pain from a potentially career-ending back injury]].
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* ''SlamDunk'': ''Manga/SlamDunk'': Most (if not all) of the teams, but in particular the main protagonist Sakuragi Hanamichi, who helps will his team to victory against all odds and a nigh-invincible opponent, [[spoiler: despite crippling pain from a potentially career-ending back injury]].

* ''SpecialA'': [[DisproportionateRetribution Because Hikari lost a wrestling match against Kei as a kid]], she's attempting to beat Kei at ''anything'', and will stop at nothing to achieve that.
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* ''SpecialA'': ''Manga/SpecialA'': [[DisproportionateRetribution Because Hikari lost a wrestling match against Kei as a kid]], she's attempting to beat Kei at ''anything'', and will stop at nothing to achieve that.
21st Jan '16 10:53:03 PM darksoul4242
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** Gemini Saga, Capricorn Shura and Aquarius Camus: In the Hades Chapter: Sanctuary, they go as ''[[FakeDefector Hades Spectres]]'' through the 12 temples course. They get out from the Gemini Kanon's [[PlatonicCave illusion at the Gemini Temple]], they survive Virgo Shaka's [[FantasticNuke Tenma Kofuku]] at Cancer Temple. Then at the Virgo Temple while they get to kill Shaka they get their ass kicked and lost 4 of their 5 primary senses. After that they receive Leo Airoria Lightning Plasma and Scorpio Milo Scarlet Needle. They still pull a full fledged [[DangerousForbiddenTechnique Athena Exclamation]]. And they just won't give up. Their mission: get to Athena to tell her the whereabouts of her cloth.
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** Gemini Saga, Capricorn Shura and Aquarius Camus: In the Hades Chapter: Sanctuary, they go as ''[[FakeDefector Hades Spectres]]'' through the 12 temples course. They get out from the Gemini Kanon's [[PlatonicCave illusion at the Gemini Temple]], they survive Virgo Shaka's [[FantasticNuke Tenma Kofuku]] at Cancer Temple. Then at the Virgo Temple while they get to kill Shaka they get their ass kicked and lost 4 of their 5 primary senses. After that they receive Leo Airoria Aioria's Lightning Plasma and Scorpio Milo Milo's Scarlet Needle. They still pull a full fledged [[DangerousForbiddenTechnique Athena Exclamation]]. And they just won't give up. Their mission: get to Athena to tell her the whereabouts of her cloth.

*** [[ImplacableMan Radamanthys of Wyvern]], who takes this to [[UpToEleven ridiculous levels.]] Relying on his UndyingLoyalty to Hades (and Hades alone), he lives through: all the attacks of [[ToThePain Scarlet Needle]], being burned alive from the inside, ripping his own heart out, all the strength of [[spoiler: Leo Regulus]]], Regulus' [[spoiler:[[CombinationAttack Athena Exclamation]]]], Regulus' [[spoiler:''Zodiac Exclamation'', which has the power of all TWELVE GOLD SAINTS]], and Regulus [[spoiler:[[TorsoWithAView punching a hole through his chest]]]]. What finally kills him is[[spoiler: [[HalfTheManHeUsedToBe being split in half]] by Alone]]... But not before he [[spoiler: destroys Athena's picture, restoring her power and turning the tide of the Holy War.]] If this wasn't enough to earn him his {{Determinator}} status, the fact that, after doing all that, he still was [[spoiler:alive enough to save [[WomanInBlack Pandora]] from Alone's attack and teleport her away from the Lost Canvas probably does it.]]
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*** [[ImplacableMan Radamanthys of Wyvern]], who takes this to [[UpToEleven ridiculous levels.]] Relying on his UndyingLoyalty to Hades (and Hades alone), he lives through: all the attacks of [[ToThePain Scarlet Needle]], being burned alive from the inside, ripping his own heart out, all the strength of [[spoiler: Leo Regulus]]], Regulus' [[spoiler:[[CombinationAttack Athena Exclamation]]]], Regulus' [[spoiler:''Zodiac Exclamation'', Clamation'', which has the power of all TWELVE GOLD SAINTS]], and Regulus [[spoiler:[[TorsoWithAView punching a hole through his chest]]]]. What finally kills him is[[spoiler: [[HalfTheManHeUsedToBe being split in half]] by Alone]]... But not before he [[spoiler: destroys Athena's picture, restoring her power and turning the tide of the Holy War.]] If this wasn't enough to earn him his {{Determinator}} status, the fact that, after doing all that, he still was [[spoiler:alive enough to save [[WomanInBlack Pandora]] from Alone's attack and teleport her away from the Lost Canvas probably does it.]]
21st Jan '16 10:49:37 PM darksoul4242
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** Asuka downright refuses quitting. She shot a MacrossMissileMassacre on Zeruel--that it shrugged off--, and when it cut her mecha's arms off, she tried lunging at it. She stated she preffered dying rather returning in defeat when Arael was [[spoiler:mindraping her]]. She fought the nine [[spoiler:Mass-Production models]] and she nearly won. And when they [[spoiler:plucked her right eye out, pinned her on the ground with their spears and her HumongousMecha was out of power]] she still was trying goading her EVA into a Berserker rage. She tried to battle until the very end.
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** Asuka downright refuses quitting. She shot a MacrossMissileMassacre on Zeruel--that it shrugged off--, and when it cut her mecha's arms off, she tried lunging at it. She stated she preffered dying rather returning in defeat when Arael was [[spoiler:mindraping her]]. She fought the nine [[spoiler:Mass-Production models]] and she nearly won. And when they [[spoiler:plucked her right eye out, pinned her on the ground with their spears and her HumongousMecha was out of power]] she still was trying goading to goad her EVA into a Berserker rage. She tried to battle until the very end.
21st Jan '16 10:48:33 PM darksoul4242
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** Then there's Rakan, who takes this to absurd levels. Nothing short of [[spoiler: ''[[RealityWarper erasing him from existance]]'' will stop him, and even then, he puts up one ''hell'' of a fight.]] Even after that, he [[spoiler: ''willed himself back'' just to give his student one important information that he must absolutly must know, and also gives some parting words to everyone]] ** Ayaka shows that being a determinator doesn't require combat when she [[spoiler: lived to the age of 115 through sheer willpower, [[IWillWaitForYou just so she could see Asuna when she woke up from her 100 year long sleep]]. [[TearJerker Sadly, this was as long as she could hold on, and Asuna overslept by 30 years]].]]
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** Then there's Rakan, who takes this to absurd levels. Nothing short of [[spoiler: ''[[RealityWarper erasing him from existance]]'' existence]]'' will stop him, and even then, he puts up one ''hell'' of a fight.]] Even after that, he [[spoiler: ''willed himself back'' just to give his student one important information that he must absolutly absolutely must know, and also gives some parting words to everyone]] everyone.]] ** Ayaka shows that being a determinator {{Determinator}} doesn't require combat when she [[spoiler: lived to the age of 115 through sheer willpower, [[IWillWaitForYou just so she could see Asuna when she woke up from her 100 year long sleep]]. [[TearJerker Sadly, this was as long as she could hold on, and Asuna overslept by 30 years]].]]
21st Jan '16 7:41:58 PM darksoul4242
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** And let's not forget Gally/Alita herself. She's quite the dogged survivor and determined fighter -she has even survived [[spoiler: war on Mars, being sentenced to dying in outer space two hundred years before the events of ''Gunnm'', nearly getting mashed and thrown to the garbage on Chief Bigot's order, being blown apart by Desty Nova, and, depending on whether you're reading ''Last Order'' or the ending of the first ''Gunnm'', fusing with the Ladder or being entirely destroyed at the nano-level while looking for the fata morgana]]. On top of all the more 'regular' fighting and danger, which include the destruction of several of her cyborg bodies. And let's not forget that * just* achieving the Panzer Kunst and the whole training around it is a feat in itself.
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** And let's not forget Gally/Alita herself. She's quite the dogged survivor and determined fighter -she has even survived [[spoiler: war on Mars, being sentenced to dying in outer space two hundred years before the events of ''Gunnm'', nearly getting mashed and thrown to the garbage on Chief Bigot's order, being blown apart by Desty Nova, and, depending on whether you're reading ''Last Order'' or the ending of the first ''Gunnm'', fusing with the Ladder or being entirely destroyed at the nano-level while looking for the fata morgana]]. On top of all the more 'regular' fighting and danger, which include the destruction of several of her cyborg bodies. And let's not forget that * just* *just* achieving the Panzer Kunst and the whole training around it is a feat in itself.
21st Jan '16 7:39:25 PM darksoul4242
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**** [[spoiler: And even that is not enough. After his defeat against Naruto and returning to his old self after a talk with Naruto, Kakashi and Minato, [[VillainOverride Black Zetsu possesses him and forces him to revive Madara]], and then makes Obito fight against Kakashi and Minato while slowly and painfully dying, [[DarkestHour while Madara extracts the Kyuubi from Naruto, stabs Sasuke in the heart, and becomes the Jubi Jinchuriki.]] What does Obito do? He overpowers Black Zetsu and uses him as life support, then proceeds to [[ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice shove his hand into Madara's chest]] and absorb some of the chakra. He then, along with Kakasi, uses both his Sharingan teleport both Naruto, Sakura, and himself to the space-time dimension, where he gives Naruto the chakra and thereby effectively saves his life. This guy is, unarguably, THE Determinator of the manga.]]
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**** [[spoiler: And even that is not enough. After his defeat against Naruto and returning to his old self after a talk with Naruto, Kakashi and Minato, [[VillainOverride Black Zetsu possesses him and forces him to revive Madara]], and then makes Obito fight against Kakashi and Minato while slowly and painfully dying, [[DarkestHour while Madara extracts the Kyuubi from Naruto, stabs Sasuke in the heart, and becomes the Jubi Jinchuriki.]] What does Obito do? He overpowers Black Zetsu and uses him as life support, then proceeds to [[ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice shove his hand into Madara's chest]] and absorb some of the chakra. He then, along with Kakasi, Kakashi, uses both his Sharingan to teleport both Naruto, Sakura, and himself to the space-time dimension, where he gives Naruto the chakra and thereby effectively saves his life. This guy is, unarguably, THE Determinator of the manga.]]
21st Jan '16 7:35:00 PM darksoul4242
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*** His saga as a villain proves this beyond a shadow of a doubt. No matter what any of the z-fighters throw at him, he simply refuses to stay down. He gets knocked around by Goku's Kaio-ken, knocked into the sky with the Kamehameha-- overwhelming his own attack-- and the most powerful move in the anime, the Spirit Bomb. He had his tail cut off, reverting himself from his Oozaru form after expending the energy needed to create the power ball letting him turn into it. And then he fought Gohan in HIS Oozaru form and ''beat it''. No matter what happened, he just kept going. Even when he was finally defeated, he didn't stop moving. He crawled to his spaceship to flee so he could heal up and fight another day. *** Vegeta then one-ups in the next saga by wasting all his energy in an attack on Freeza, taking a subsequent [[NoHoldsBarredBeatDown beating from Freeza]], and then after coming within an inch of his life, mocking Freeza after Goku's arrival, which prompts Freeza to blow a hole directly through his heart, and then wills himself to live long enough to explain to Goku about what Freeza did to their home planet, prompting Freeza to [[LampshadeHanging Lampshade]] the fact that he's still talking even though he's been blasted through the heart in both the dub and original, and making everyone realize that he isn't ''quite'' the monstrous bastard they originally thought he was after crying and begging Goku to finish off Freeza so that he will never turn anyone else into someone like himself.
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*** His saga as a villain proves this beyond a shadow of a doubt. No matter what any of the z-fighters Z-Fighters throw at him, he simply refuses to stay down. He gets knocked around by Goku's Kaio-ken, knocked into the sky with the Kamehameha-- overwhelming his own attack-- and the most powerful move in the anime, the Spirit Bomb. He had his tail cut off, reverting himself from his Oozaru form after expending the energy needed to create the power ball letting him turn into it. And then he fought Gohan in HIS Oozaru form and ''beat it''. No matter what happened, he just kept going. Even when he was finally defeated, he didn't stop moving. He crawled to his spaceship to flee so he could heal up and fight another day. *** Vegeta then one-ups this in the next saga by wasting all his energy in an attack on Freeza, taking a subsequent [[NoHoldsBarredBeatDown beating from Freeza]], and then after coming within an inch of his life, mocking Freeza after Goku's arrival, which prompts Freeza to blow a hole directly through his heart, and then wills himself to live long enough to explain to Goku about what Freeza did to their home planet, prompting Freeza to [[LampshadeHanging Lampshade]] the fact that he's still talking even though he's been blasted through the heart in both the dub and original, and making everyone realize that he isn't ''quite'' the monstrous bastard they originally thought he was after crying and begging Goku to finish off Freeza so that he will never turn anyone else into someone like himself.

** Every last Z Senshi during the [[KameHameHadoken Kamehameha]] [[BeamOWar struggle]] between Gohan and Cell, in the anime. By this point, even Piccolo is completely outclassed in terms of power, but he and the by-this-point-barely-relevant human warriors just keep blasting Cell from the sidelines, not caring what happens to them if they can do something to help Gohan.
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** Every last Z Senshi Z-Fighter during the [[KameHameHadoken Kamehameha]] [[BeamOWar struggle]] between Gohan and Cell, in the anime. By this point, even Piccolo is completely outclassed in terms of power, but he and the by-this-point-barely-relevant human warriors just keep blasting Cell from the sidelines, not caring what happens to them if they can do something to help Gohan.

** Let's not forgot Fat Buu once he made his HeelFaceTurn. He gets beating into pudding by his evil half Kid Buu, but he just kept going despite being so badly outmatch. When Vegeta was being held down by Kid Buu, Fat Buu used his remaining strength to tackle him so Mr. Satan could save Vegeta, allowing Goku to throw his Spirit Bomb. ** Freeza pretty much typifies this trope. Let's see, he engaged in a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown with Goku after he went & [[BerserkButton killed his best friend,]] prompting Goku to turn [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge SSJ]], and then he was in a losing battle with Goku, so he decided to [[PlanetKiller blow up the planet they were on]] to win. At this point, he's out of energy & [[BloodFromTheMouth badly injured]]. So, he decides to play a deadly version of double-kienzan Frisbee with his opponent...which [[HoistByHisOwnPetard backfired spectacularly.]] On the verge of death from being vivisected, he finally breaks down & starts begging. Goku of course gives him his own energy out of [[strike:spite]] mercy. Guess what he does with it? ''Promptly tries to shoot Goku in the back''. This finally provokes Goku to blast him into oblivion...or so we're led to think. About a year later in canon, we not only find that he's managed to survive planet Namek EXPLODING, ''he got stronger'', & he's come back for more. Understandably, everyone was quite shocked that he had survived, considering that about two thirds of his organic body was destroyed, even some parts of his ''head''. The anime also shows that he was keep talking in space, despite being unconsciouness, before he was found by his father.
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** Let's not forgot Fat Buu once he made his HeelFaceTurn. He gets beating beaten into pudding by his evil half Kid Buu, but he just kept going despite being so badly outmatch.outmatched. When Vegeta was being held down by Kid Buu, Fat Buu used his remaining strength to tackle him so Mr. Satan could save Vegeta, allowing Goku to throw his Spirit Bomb. ** Freeza pretty much typifies exemplifies this trope. Let's see, he engaged in a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown with Goku after he went & and [[BerserkButton killed his best friend,]] prompting Goku to turn [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge SSJ]], and then he was in a losing battle with Goku, so he decided to [[PlanetKiller blow up the planet they were on]] to win. At this point, he's out of energy & and [[BloodFromTheMouth badly injured]]. So, he decides to play a deadly version of double-kienzan Frisbee with his opponent...which [[HoistByHisOwnPetard backfired spectacularly.]] On the verge of death from being vivisected, he finally breaks down & starts begging. Goku of course gives him his own energy out of [[strike:spite]] mercy. Guess what he does with it? ''Promptly tries to shoot Goku in the back''. This finally provokes Goku to blast him into oblivion...or so we're led to think. About a year later in canon, we not only find that he's managed to survive planet Namek EXPLODING, ''he got stronger'', & and he's come back for more. Understandably, everyone was quite shocked that he had survived, considering that about two thirds of his organic body was destroyed, even some parts of his ''head''. The anime also shows that he was keep still talking in space, despite being unconsciouness, unconscious and near death, before he was found by his father.

** Videl. When she wants to do something, she does not give up. Ever. Even when it's clear that she has no chance of accomplishing the task at hand. Her fight with Spopovich at the World Martial Arts Tournament is the best example of this one could give. After it became clear that she wasn't going to win, people kept telling her to give up. It took Spopovich's partner telling him to stop torturing her because they had more important things to be doing to finally end the match by him kicking her out of the ring. After a certain point, he was just torturing her and she wasn't moving on her own anymore, but, given the opportunity to stand up again, she would've surely continued attacking the guy.
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** Videl. When she wants to do something, she does not give up. Ever. Even when it's clear that she has no chance of accomplishing the task at hand. Her fight with Spopovich at the World Martial Arts Tournament is the best example of this one could give. After it became clear that she wasn't going to win, people kept telling her to give up. It took Spopovich's partner telling him to stop torturing her because they had more important things to be doing do, to finally end the match by him kicking her out of the ring. After a certain point, he was just torturing her and she wasn't moving on her own anymore, but, given the opportunity to stand up again, she would've surely continued attacking the guy.
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