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!!TV series with their own pages
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* ''DemotedToExtra/GameOfThrones''
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'':
** The show has a terrible habit of promoting recurring characters to the opening titles, but then giving them less to do, or simply giving less to regulars with each passing season. Among them:
*** Jaime "Kingslayer" Lannister appeared in only four episodes of Season 2, but was billed third for all of them. This was due to his being a prisoner of the Starks. Once he was free, he became a dominant character in Seasons 3 and 4.
*** Petyr "Littlefinger" Baelish was a very major part of Season 1, and appropriately billed as a regular for it. He was also billed as a regular for the following seasons, despite appearing in fewer episodes each season.
*** Theon Greyjoy, after being a pretty major part of Seasons 1 and 2, spent all of Season 3 basically just being tortured, and only appeared three times in Season 4.
*** The characters of Varys, Lord Commander Mormont, Ramsay and Gilly are glaring examples of characters added to the opening titles only to appear in fewer episodes than previous seasons when they were just guest stars. They, along with a few others, appeared in fewer episodes than characters who still were credited as guest stars.
** The Dothraki were important enough to have a ConLang in Seasons 1 and 2, but are reduced to the background in Season 3 and are largely invisible in Season 4. In season 5 they vanished entirely.
** In contrast to being a major viewpoint in the books (Robb's storyline is seen entirely from her point of view), Catelyn increasingly becomes a supporting character to Robb's AdaptationExpansion romance with Talisa, particularly in Season 3. This continues post-Season 3: In the books, Catelyn is revived by Beric Dondarrion and becomes the leader of the Brotherhood without Banners as the vengeful Lady Stoneheart, but that entire subplot has been AdaptedOut.
** Tommen and Myrcella were demoted in early seasons (including extended absences after Season 2) but appear to be ascending in later seasons with Tommen recast for Season 4 and Myrcella recast for Season 5.
** The secondary characters of the Kingsguard are mostly rolled into the CompositeCharacter Meryn Trant. Bronn even lampshades this when he refers to one of them as "Ser Whosit of Whocares?"
** Except for Loras and Brienne, Renly's Kingsguard is the same. This is most evident when Brienne is totally unfazed by killing two of them, an act that haunts the doer in the novels. Their names were Emmon Cuy and Robar Royce, incidentally.
** Ser Dontos Hollard plays a much more prominent role in Sansa's storyline in the second and third books than he does in the same period of the series.
** Ygritte's AdaptationExpansion in Season 2 comes at the expense of Qhorin Halfhand.
** In "Blackwater", the extra who acts as Stannis' number two aboard his flagship is credited as Ser Imry Florent, the admiral who led Stannis' fleet into Tyrion's trap in the novels.
** Subverted with Stannis' wife Selyse, who is portrayed by an extra in "The North Remembers" and promptly forgotten, but becomes an actual part of the cast in Season 3.
** House Greyjoy plays a more negligible role in the War of Five Kings, particularly after the Sack of Winterfell. For instance, Robb's first priority in the novels after the Battle of Blackwater was to drive the Greyjoys out of the North rather than to besiege Casterly Rock.
** House Tyrell's importance drops off exponentially in the second half of Season 4. After Margaery's midnight visit to Tommen's bedchamber, the entire family is reduced to background characters for the rest of the season. Loras Tyrell in particular has only a few lines in "The Lion and the Rose" even before that.
24th Mar '17 9:34:17 AM gb00393
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** In contrast to being a major viewpoint in the books, Catelyn increasingly becomes a supporting character to Robb's AdaptationExpansion romance with Talisa, particularly in Season 3.

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** In contrast to being a major viewpoint in the books, books (Robb's storyline is seen entirely from her point of view), Catelyn increasingly becomes a supporting character to Robb's AdaptationExpansion romance with Talisa, particularly in Season 3.3. This continues post-Season 3: In the books, Catelyn is revived by Beric Dondarrion and becomes the leader of the Brotherhood without Banners as the vengeful Lady Stoneheart, but that entire subplot has been AdaptedOut.
19th Feb '17 6:13:04 PM WaggishPony
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* ''Series/TheSuiteLifeOfZackAndCody'' and ''Series/TheSuiteLifeOnDeck'': Maddie and Carey, who were part of the original main cast on the former show, appeared occasionally on the latter show, which switched the main setting from a Bostonian hotel to a high school on a cruise ship, justifying the demotion. Also, possibly a JustifiedTrope with Maddie, given her presumed age (being three years older than the boys) would make her a college student in the first season of ''On Deck''.
12th Jan '17 7:38:42 AM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'' has a terrible habit of promoting recurring characters to the opening titles, but then giving them less to do, or simply giving less to regulars with each passing season. Among them:
** Jaime "Kingslayer" Lannister appeared in only four episodes of Season 2, but was billed third for all of them. This was due to his being a prisoner of the Starks. Once he was free, he became a dominant character in Seasons 3 and 4.
** Petyr "Littlefinger" Baelish was a very major part of Season 1, and appropriately billed as a regular for it. He was also billed as a regular for the following seasons, despite appearing in fewer episodes each season.
** Theon Greyjoy, after being a pretty major part of Seasons 1 and 2, spent all of Season 3 basically just being tortured, and only appeared three times in Season 4.
** The characters of Varys, Lord Commander Mormont, Ramsay and Gilly are glaring examples of characters added to the opening titles only to appear in fewer episodes than previous seasons when they were just guest stars. They, along with a few others, appeared in fewer episodes than characters who still were credited as guest stars.

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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'' ''Series/GameOfThrones'':
** The show
has a terrible habit of promoting recurring characters to the opening titles, but then giving them less to do, or simply giving less to regulars with each passing season. Among them:
** *** Jaime "Kingslayer" Lannister appeared in only four episodes of Season 2, but was billed third for all of them. This was due to his being a prisoner of the Starks. Once he was free, he became a dominant character in Seasons 3 and 4.
** *** Petyr "Littlefinger" Baelish was a very major part of Season 1, and appropriately billed as a regular for it. He was also billed as a regular for the following seasons, despite appearing in fewer episodes each season.
** *** Theon Greyjoy, after being a pretty major part of Seasons 1 and 2, spent all of Season 3 basically just being tortured, and only appeared three times in Season 4.
** *** The characters of Varys, Lord Commander Mormont, Ramsay and Gilly are glaring examples of characters added to the opening titles only to appear in fewer episodes than previous seasons when they were just guest stars. They, along with a few others, appeared in fewer episodes than characters who still were credited as guest stars.stars.
** The Dothraki were important enough to have a ConLang in Seasons 1 and 2, but are reduced to the background in Season 3 and are largely invisible in Season 4. In season 5 they vanished entirely.
** In contrast to being a major viewpoint in the books, Catelyn increasingly becomes a supporting character to Robb's AdaptationExpansion romance with Talisa, particularly in Season 3.
** Tommen and Myrcella were demoted in early seasons (including extended absences after Season 2) but appear to be ascending in later seasons with Tommen recast for Season 4 and Myrcella recast for Season 5.
** The secondary characters of the Kingsguard are mostly rolled into the CompositeCharacter Meryn Trant. Bronn even lampshades this when he refers to one of them as "Ser Whosit of Whocares?"
** Except for Loras and Brienne, Renly's Kingsguard is the same. This is most evident when Brienne is totally unfazed by killing two of them, an act that haunts the doer in the novels. Their names were Emmon Cuy and Robar Royce, incidentally.
** Ser Dontos Hollard plays a much more prominent role in Sansa's storyline in the second and third books than he does in the same period of the series.
** Ygritte's AdaptationExpansion in Season 2 comes at the expense of Qhorin Halfhand.
** In "Blackwater", the extra who acts as Stannis' number two aboard his flagship is credited as Ser Imry Florent, the admiral who led Stannis' fleet into Tyrion's trap in the novels.
** Subverted with Stannis' wife Selyse, who is portrayed by an extra in "The North Remembers" and promptly forgotten, but becomes an actual part of the cast in Season 3.
** House Greyjoy plays a more negligible role in the War of Five Kings, particularly after the Sack of Winterfell. For instance, Robb's first priority in the novels after the Battle of Blackwater was to drive the Greyjoys out of the North rather than to besiege Casterly Rock.
** House Tyrell's importance drops off exponentially in the second half of Season 4. After Margaery's midnight visit to Tommen's bedchamber, the entire family is reduced to background characters for the rest of the season. Loras Tyrell in particular has only a few lines in "The Lion and the Rose" even before that.
9th Oct '16 1:48:18 PM dmcreif
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** Jimmy [=McNulty=] in season four, going from being the defacto star in the first three seasons. The actor playing [=McNulty=] wanted some time off to do film and theater and spend time with his family, this was explained in series by him deciding to leave the Major Crimes Unit after his adversary was killed before he could take him down, becoming a patrolman and mending his ways while he was at it. He got off the bus in season five, though.
** In the fifth season of HBO's , many of the supporting (and even major) characters from the previous seasons appear during several episodes of the series, largely as a reminder that life in Baltimore keeps on going, even when the major plot arcs end. [[spoiler:Roland Prezbylewski, the other three main child characters from season four, Cutty Wise, Nick Sobotka, Major Colvin]] and several others show up in different scenes. More notably, however, various characters who were glimpsed in previous seasons also return, including [[spoiler:Clay Davis' limo driver, several dock workers (who are now homeless) and former members of Avon Barksdale's gang who were prominent in the first and second seasons]].
** Similarly, since the fourth season dealt with the school system, this inevitably led to less focus being spent on the actual police force; which was the forte of Jimmy [=McNulty=] (arguably the show's main character). He's even absent for an episode.

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** Jimmy [=McNulty=] in season four, going from being the defacto star in the first three seasons. The actor playing [=McNulty=] Dominic West wanted some time off to do film and theater and spend time with his family, this was explained in series by him [=McNulty=] deciding to leave the Major Crimes Unit after his adversary was killed before he could take him down, becoming a patrolman and mending his ways while he was at it. He got off the bus in season five, though.
** In the fifth season of HBO's , season, many of the supporting (and even major) characters from the previous seasons appear during several episodes of the series, largely as a reminder that life in Baltimore keeps on going, even when the major plot arcs end. [[spoiler:Roland Roland Prezbylewski, the other three main child characters from season four, Cutty Wise, Nick Sobotka, Major Colvin]] Bunny Colvin and several others show up in different scenes. More notably, however, various characters who were glimpsed in previous seasons also return, including [[spoiler:Clay Clay Davis' limo driver, several dock workers (who are now homeless) and former members of Avon Barksdale's gang who were prominent in the first and second seasons]].
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** Similarly, since the fourth season dealt with the school system, this inevitably led to less focus being spent on the actual police force; which was the forte of Jimmy [=McNulty=] (arguably the show's main character). He's even absent for an episode.force.



** Wee-Bey after he's sent to prison.

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** Wee-Bey after he's sent to prison. He does have some more screentime in season 4 due to one of the plotlines revolving around his son Namond.
14th Aug '16 7:11:47 PM merotoker
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* After Don Knotts' departure from ''Series/TheAndyGriffithShow'' as a regular, his character of Barney Fife was brought back as a guest for at least one episode in each of the remaining seasons.

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* After Don Knotts' Creator/DonKnotts' departure from ''Series/TheAndyGriffithShow'' as a regular, his character of Barney Fife was brought back as a guest for at least one episode in each of the remaining seasons.



* On ''Series/BoyMeetsWorld'' Alan, Amy, and Morgan Matthews are demoted during seasons 6 and 7 when the main characters went to college.

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* On ''Series/BoyMeetsWorld'' ''Series/BoyMeetsWorld''
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Alan, Amy, and Morgan Matthews are demoted during seasons 6 and 7 when the main characters went to college.



* ''Series/GameOfThrones'', has a terrible habit of promoting recurring characters to the opening titles, but then giving them less to do, or simply giving less to regulars with each passing season. Among them:

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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'', ''Series/GameOfThrones'' has a terrible habit of promoting recurring characters to the opening titles, but then giving them less to do, or simply giving less to regulars with each passing season. Among them:



* In ''Series/HouseOfCardsUS'':
** Christina Gallagher has a fairly prominent role as Peter Russo's girlfriend/assistant in Season 1. In Season 2, [[spoiler:she's kept around by becoming Chief of Staff Linda Vasquez's assistant, but with no real arc besides Claire briefly using her to manipulate the First Lady and strain Walker's marriage. After Frank manipulates Linda into resigning, Christina is very quietly transferred out]].
** The head of the Underwoods' Secret Service detail, Edward Meechum, had a subplot in Season 2, is largely reduced to silently escorting people around in Season 3. He is given a little bit more to do in season 4, and then is promptly killed off a third of the way through the season when he's shot by Lucas Goodwin in an assassination attempt on Frank.



* While it was understandable that [[DaChief Captain Deakins]] of ''Series/LawAndOrderCriminalIntent'' was not used as heavily as other Captains/Lieutenants in the ''Franchise/LawAndOrder'' universe (as his actor, Jamey Sheridan, lived on the West Coast while all the scenes were filmed in New York and he eventually left the series due to stress of traveling and health issues), ADA Ron Carver gets this trope pretty badly. Within the first four seasons, he worked alongside Goren and Eames as the competent and by-the-book (if not underused) "Order" side to coincide with the "Law" aspect of the series. However, gradually within season four, namely with the return of Detective Mike Logan, he would share a scene or two with whichever detective team was in that particular episode [[ObstructiveBureaucrat just to inform them of what they legally can't do in a case]] and offer a suspect a deal [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse before being written off the show without a clear reason.]] Even on ThisVeryWiki underneath ''CI's'' character page, both characters' profiles have been mysteriously deleted.
* In the first half of the first season of ''Series/LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit'' Eliot Stabler's four children were regular characters, however after that they became infrequent recurrers showing up about once season. Two of his daughters have not even been seen since the seventh season and between that and the first they had about 3 appearances each. This oldest son (who is the twin of one of the daughters) has remained showing up about once a year and later had ADayInTheLimelight, and his middle daughter had a subplot about her being a bipolar thieving drug addict.
** The entire rest of the supporting cast on SVU has fallen victim to this. Most noticeably are Munch, Fin, and Huang, who used to get entire subplots in every episode and now don't even appear in half of them. Cragen might have a scene or two, and Liz might have a line per episode. Nowhere ''near'' the screentime of Stabler, Benson, and the ADA (Alex, Casey, or whoever the rotating one may be).

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* While it was understandable that [[DaChief Captain Deakins]] of ''Series/LawAndOrderCriminalIntent'' was not used as heavily as other Captains/Lieutenants in the ''Franchise/LawAndOrder'' universe (as his actor, Jamey Sheridan, lived on the West Coast while all the scenes were filmed in New York and he eventually left the series due to stress of traveling and health issues), ADA Ron Carver gets this trope pretty badly. Within the first four seasons, he worked alongside Goren and Eames as the competent and by-the-book (if not underused) "Order" side to coincide with the "Law" aspect of the series. However, gradually within season four, namely with the return of Detective Mike Logan, he would share a scene or two with whichever detective team was in that particular episode [[ObstructiveBureaucrat just to inform them of what they legally can't do in a case]] and offer a suspect a deal [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse before being written off the show without a clear reason.]] Even on ThisVeryWiki [[Wiki/TVTropes This Very Wiki]] underneath ''CI's'' character page, both characters' profiles have been mysteriously deleted.
* ''Series/LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit''
**
In the first half of the first season of ''Series/LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit'' Eliot Stabler's four children were regular characters, however after that they became infrequent recurrers showing up about once season. Two of his daughters have not even been seen since the seventh season and between that and the first they had about 3 appearances each. This oldest son (who is the twin of one of the daughters) has remained showing up about once a year and later had ADayInTheLimelight, and his middle daughter had a subplot about her being a bipolar thieving drug addict.
** The entire rest of the supporting cast on SVU has fallen victim to this. Most noticeably are Munch, Fin, and Huang, who used to get entire subplots in every episode and now don't even appear in half of them. Cragen might have a scene or two, and Liz might have a line per episode. Nowhere ''near'' the screentime of Stabler, Benson, and the ADA (Alex, Casey, or whoever the rotating one may be).



* Happened to Rene David in Season 2 of ''Series/TheLunchroom''. Despite being Will's love interest and the closest thing to a female lead the show had in the first season, she only has a few minors scenes before dissappearing without explanation.

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* Happened to Rene David in Season 2 of ''Series/TheLunchroom''. Despite being Will's love interest and the closest thing to a female lead the show had in the first season, she only has a few minors scenes before dissappearing disappearing without explanation.



* Especially in Season One, ''Series/{{Merlin|2008}}'' had a habit of taking the names of reasonably significant Arthurian characters, like Pellinore, and giving them to random knights, [[RedshirtArmy who were then killed]].

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* ''Series/{{Merlin|2008}}''
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Especially in Season One, ''Series/{{Merlin|2008}}'' the show had a habit of taking the names of reasonably significant Arthurian characters, like Pellinore, and giving them to random knights, [[RedshirtArmy who were then killed]].



** From a ''Series/SuperSentai'' standpoint, the respective [[BigBad Big Bads]] of ''Series/KyoryuSentaiZyuranger'' and ''Series/GoseiSentaiDairanger'', Dai Satan and Shadam, were both reduced to being a simple MonsterOfTheWeek for Rita and Lord Zedd (although Dai Satan's counterpart, Lokar, at least had a slightly significant role, being an integral part of Rita's schemes in two separate two-part episodes).

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** From a ''Series/SuperSentai'' standpoint, the respective [[BigBad Big Bads]] {{Big Bad}}s of ''Series/KyoryuSentaiZyuranger'' and ''Series/GoseiSentaiDairanger'', Dai Satan and Shadam, were both reduced to being a simple MonsterOfTheWeek for Rita and Lord Zedd (although Dai Satan's counterpart, Lokar, at least had a slightly significant role, being an integral part of Rita's schemes in two separate two-part episodes).



* Mindy's best friend Gwen was a series regular at the beginning of ''Series/TheMindyProject'', but only appeared in the occasional episode before being written out entirely. Danny also had incerasingly sporadic appearances throughout season 4.

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* Mindy's best friend Gwen was a series regular at the beginning of ''Series/TheMindyProject'', but only appeared in the occasional episode before being written out entirely. Danny also had incerasingly increasingly sporadic appearances throughout season 4.



** Johnny Fiama and Sal Minella, after 2005. In fact, most characters created for disappeared entirely once the show was cancelled; Johnny, Sal and BreakoutCharacter Pepe are notable for sticking around at all.

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** Johnny Fiama and Sal Minella, after 2005. In fact, most characters created for ''Tonight'' disappeared entirely once the show was cancelled; Johnny, Sal and BreakoutCharacter Pepe are notable for sticking around at all.



* Jimmy Cooper as of season two of ''Series/TheOC''. Tate Donnovan still received an AndStarring in the opening credits, but Jimmy didn't really do anything other than hang out on his boat.

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* Jimmy Cooper as of season two of ''Series/TheOC''. ''Series/TheOC'' Tate Donnovan still received an AndStarring in the opening credits, but Jimmy didn't really do anything other than hang out on his boat.



* Forgetful Jones has not been given any prominent roles on ''Series/SesameStreet'' since 1992, but has made recent nonspeaking background appearances.The character's initial retirement was due out of respect for Hunt's death.

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* Forgetful Jones has not been given any prominent roles on ''Series/SesameStreet'' since 1992, but has made recent nonspeaking background appearances. The character's initial retirement was due out of respect for Hunt's death.



* In ''Series/HouseOfCardsUS'':
** Christina Gallagher has a fairly prominent role as Peter Russo's girlfriend/assistant in Season 1. In Season 2, [[spoiler:she's kept around by becoming Chief of Staff Linda Vasquez's assistant, but with no real arc besides Claire briefly using her to manipulate the First Lady and strain Walker's marriage. After Frank manipulates Linda into resigning, Christina is very quietly transferred out]].
** The head of the Underwoods' Secret Service detail, Edward Meechum, had a subplot in Season 2, is largely reduced to silently escorting people around in Season 3. He is given a little bit more to do in season 4, and then is promptly killed off a third of the way through the season when he's shot by Lucas Goodwin in an assassination attempt on Frank.
30th Jun '16 7:00:18 PM wuggles
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* Mindy's best friend Gwen was a series regular at the beginning of ''Series/TheMindyProject'', but now only appears in the occasional episode.

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* Mindy's best friend Gwen was a series regular at the beginning of ''Series/TheMindyProject'', but now only appears appeared in the occasional episode.episode before being written out entirely. Danny also had incerasingly sporadic appearances throughout season 4.
25th Jun '16 8:03:32 PM Erin582
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* While it was understandable that [[DaChief Captain Deakins]] of ''Series/LawAndOrderCriminalIntent'' was not used as heavily as other Captains/Lieutenants in the ''Franchise/LawAndOrder'' universe (as his actor, Jamey Sheridan, lived on the West Coast while all the scenes were filmed in New York and he eventually left the series due to stress of traveling and health issues), ADA Ron Carver gets this trope pretty badly. Within the first four seasons, he worked alongside Goren and Eames as the competent and by-the-book (if not underused) "Order" side to coincide with the "Law" aspect of the series. However, gradually within season four, namely with the return of Detective Mike Logan, he would share a scene or two with whichever detective team was in that particular episode [[ObstructiveBureaucrat just to inform them of what they legally can't do in a case]] and offer a suspect a deal [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse before being written off the show without a clear reason.]] Even on ThisVeryWiki underneath ''CI's'' character page, both characters' profiles have been mysteriously deleted.
23rd May '16 11:05:52 AM DaibhidC
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** If your familiarity with the Muppets is only with the movies, it comes as a surprise to see what a major character Link was on the Muppet Show proper. After Jim Henson died, however, Link pretty much [[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome disappeared.]]

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** If your familiarity with the Muppets is only with the movies, it comes as a surprise to see what a major character Link Hogthrob was on the Muppet Show proper. After Jim Henson died, however, Link pretty much [[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome disappeared.]]He only had cameos in the films (he has a very brief speaking role in ''Film/TheMuppetsTakeManhattan'', and then is reduced to background character until an equally brief role in ''Film/MuppetsMostWanted'').



** Johnny Fiama and Sal Minella, after 2005.

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** Johnny Fiama and Sal Minella, after 2005. In fact, most characters created for disappeared entirely once the show was cancelled; Johnny, Sal and BreakoutCharacter Pepe are notable for sticking around at all.


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* As ''Series/OnceUponATime'' kept introducing more characters from outside Storybrooke, everyone who wasn't part of the Snow-Charming family started getting reduced to cameos. This gets a LampshadeHanging in season 5: Leroy/Grumpy says the dwarfs will join the quest to Camelot because they're tired of not being involved in things. They proceed to get written completely into the background of the Camelot storyline.
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* In ''Series/HouseOfCardsUS'':
** Christina Gallagher has a fairly prominent role as Peter Russo's girlfriend/assistant in Season 1. In Season 2, [[spoiler:she's kept around by becoming Chief of Staff Linda Vasquez's assistant, but with no real arc besides Claire briefly using her to manipulate the First Lady and strain Walker's marriage. After Frank manipulates Linda into resigning, Christina is very quietly transferred out]].
** The head of the Underwoods' Secret Service detail, Edward Meechum, had a subplot in Season 2, is largely reduced to silently escorting people around in Season 3. He is given a little bit more to do in season 4, and then is promptly killed off a third of the way through the season when he's shot by Lucas Goodwin in an assassination attempt on Frank.
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