History DeaderThanDisco / WesternAnimation

14th Dec '16 5:57:55 PM nombretomado
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[[WesternAnimation These cartoons]] used to be quite popular in their heyday, but [[DeaderThanDisco these days their original fans and the general public have turned against them.]]
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* Ethnic and gender stereotypes or caricatures (along with cartoon violence) were very prevalent in old cartoons made in TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation. However, starting in 1968, these were increasingly censored in TV re-airings or the cartoons were banned altogether, like the Censored Eleven - first to go were gags about Black people, then one by one jokes about Japanese, Native Americans, and Mexicans received informal bans. Today, the only cartoons that still use ethnic jokes, albeit under a satirical hood, are adult cartoon series.
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* Believe it or not, ''WesternAnimation/JohnnyTest'' was actually fairly popular during its first few years having a higher budget and completely different production team, not to mention Creator/KidsWB having a hand in its production (alongside the Canadian network Creator/{{Teletoon}}), probably helped. When Teletoon and Creator/CookieJarEntertainment took on the sole responsibility of production after Kids WB died out in 2008 (Creator/WarnerBros still owns the character trademarks), the show's quality began to drop severely and it's now one of the most hated cartoons ''of all time''. Even the early seasons are viewed as not much better in hindsight. Not helping was the fact that it continued production well into 2014, mainly because of [[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_content CanCon policies]] forcing Canadian animation to be constantly churned out (the show's ratings were abysmal). The series ended with little fanfare after TV producer David Straiton filed a lawsuit against series creator Scott Fellows for not crediting him as a co-creator for ''Johnny Test''. It's very telling that its season boxsets are sold solely in ''grocery store bargain bins'', and even Creator/CartoonNetwork (who got the American broadcast rights from Creator/TheCW after the demise of Kids WB) seems to despise it as almost all of their promotions for it reek of OurProductSucks. It's even believed that the whole show was a SpringtimeForHitler ploy GoneHorriblyWrong. Today, other than a few projects from Creator/JamesArnoldTaylor (who voiced the title character), and a few {{Take That}}s here and there, it's almost never discussed.
* [[WesternAnimation/ScoobyDooAndScrappyDoo Scrappy-Doo]] is an example of a character fitting this trope. In 1979, he was credited with preventing Scooby-Doo's cancellation, and was loved by children. As a result, the show focused on him even more in the 1980s, annoying older fans. He now came off as a SmallAnnoyingCreature, not appealing to the younger fans and alienating older ones. He is now one of the most loathed characters in Western Animation, to the point of being the TropeNamer to this wiki's [[TheScrappy term for hated characters]], being listed as one of the worst TV moments in the book ''Literature/WhatWereTheyThinkingThe100DumbestEventsInTelevisionHistory'' (at #7), and being the BigBad of the [[Film/ScoobyDoo 2002 live action movie]]. Few modern incarnations of Scooby Doo even acknowledge him, and the times they do, [[TakeThatScrappy it's NEVER with kindness]].
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* {{Discussed}} in ''WesternAnimation/GIJoeARealAmericanHero'', which actually used the line "Deader than Disco" in one of the episodes.
-->'''Cobra Commander:''' As of now, your little project is deader than disco!
* In one episode of ''WesternAnimation/{{Rugrats}}'' (which provides the page quote for the trope), Angelica asks her aunt Didi what disco is. Didi just says that disco is never coming back.
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[[WesternAnimation These cartoons]] used to be quite popular in their heyday, but [[DeaderThanDisco these days their original fans and the general public have turned against them.]]
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[[folder:Genres & trends]]
* Ethnic and gender stereotypes or caricatures (along with cartoon violence) were very prevalent in old cartoons made in TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation. However, starting in 1968, these were increasingly censored in TV re-airings or the cartoons were banned altogether, like the Censored Eleven - first to go were gags about Black people, then one by one jokes about Japanese, Native Americans, and Mexicans received informal bans. Today, the only cartoons that still use ethnic jokes, albeit under a satirical hood, are adult cartoon series.
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[[folder:Cartoons]]
* Believe it or not, ''WesternAnimation/JohnnyTest'' was actually fairly popular during its first few years having a higher budget and completely different production team, not to mention Creator/KidsWB having a hand in its production (alongside the Canadian network Creator/{{Teletoon}}), probably helped. When Teletoon and Creator/CookieJarEntertainment took on the sole responsibility of production after Kids WB died out in 2008 (Creator/WarnerBros still owns the character trademarks), the show's quality began to drop severely and it's now one of the most hated cartoons ''of all time''. Even the early seasons are viewed as not much better in hindsight. Not helping was the fact that it continued production well into 2014, mainly because of [[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_content CanCon policies]] forcing Canadian animation to be constantly churned out (the show's ratings were abysmal). The series ended with little fanfare after TV producer David Straiton filed a lawsuit against series creator Scott Fellows for not crediting him as a co-creator for ''Johnny Test''. It's very telling that its season boxsets are sold solely in ''grocery store bargain bins'', and even Creator/CartoonNetwork (who got the American broadcast rights from Creator/TheCW after the demise of Kids WB) seems to despise it as almost all of their promotions for it reek of OurProductSucks. It's even believed that the whole show was a SpringtimeForHitler ploy GoneHorriblyWrong. Today, other than a few projects from Creator/JamesArnoldTaylor (who voiced the title character), and a few {{Take That}}s here and there, it's almost never discussed.
* [[WesternAnimation/ScoobyDooAndScrappyDoo Scrappy-Doo]] is an example of a character fitting this trope. In 1979, he was credited with preventing Scooby-Doo's cancellation, and was loved by children. As a result, the show focused on him even more in the 1980s, annoying older fans. He now came off as a SmallAnnoyingCreature, not appealing to the younger fans and alienating older ones. He is now one of the most loathed characters in Western Animation, to the point of being the TropeNamer to this wiki's [[TheScrappy term for hated characters]], being listed as one of the worst TV moments in the book ''Literature/WhatWereTheyThinkingThe100DumbestEventsInTelevisionHistory'' (at #7), and being the BigBad of the [[Film/ScoobyDoo 2002 live action movie]]. Few modern incarnations of Scooby Doo even acknowledge him, and the times they do, [[TakeThatScrappy it's NEVER with kindness]].
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* {{Discussed}} in ''WesternAnimation/GIJoeARealAmericanHero'', which actually used the line "Deader than Disco" in one of the episodes.
-->'''Cobra Commander:''' As of now, your little project is deader than disco!
* In one episode of ''WesternAnimation/{{Rugrats}}'' (which provides the page quote for the trope), Angelica asks her aunt Didi what disco is. Didi just says that disco is never coming back.
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5th Dec '16 12:41:57 PM twilicorn
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* Believe it or not, ''WesternAnimation/JohnnyTest'' was actually fairly popular during its first few years having a higher budget and completely different production team, not to mention Creator/KidsWB having a hand in its production (alongside the Canadian network Creator/{{Teletoon}}), probably helped. When Teletoon and Creator/CookieJarEntertainment took on the sole responsibility of production after Kids WB died out in 2008 (Creator/WarnerBros still owns the character trademarks), the show's quality began to drop severely and it's now one of the most hated cartoons ''of all time''. Even the early seasons are viewed as not much better in hindsight. Not helping was the fact that it continued production well into 2014, mainly because of a Canadian law forcing Canadian animation to be constantly churned out[[note]]due to "[[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_content Canadian content]]" policies, to promote Canadian culture [[/note]] (the show's ratings are abysmal). The series ended with little fanfare after TV producer David Straiton filed a lawsuit against series creator Scott Fellows for not crediting him as a co-creator for ''Johnny Test''. It's very telling that its season boxsets are sold solely in ''grocery store bargain bins'', and even Creator/CartoonNetwork (who got the American broadcast rights from Creator/TheCW after the demise of Kids WB) seems to despise it as almost all of their promotions for it reek of OurProductSucks. It's even believed that the whole show was a SpringtimeForHitler ploy GoneHorriblyWrong. Today, other than a few projects from Creator/JamesArnoldTaylor (who voiced the title character), and a few {{Take That}}s here and there, it's almost never discussed.

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* Believe it or not, ''WesternAnimation/JohnnyTest'' was actually fairly popular during its first few years having a higher budget and completely different production team, not to mention Creator/KidsWB having a hand in its production (alongside the Canadian network Creator/{{Teletoon}}), probably helped. When Teletoon and Creator/CookieJarEntertainment took on the sole responsibility of production after Kids WB died out in 2008 (Creator/WarnerBros still owns the character trademarks), the show's quality began to drop severely and it's now one of the most hated cartoons ''of all time''. Even the early seasons are viewed as not much better in hindsight. Not helping was the fact that it continued production well into 2014, mainly because of a Canadian law forcing Canadian animation to be constantly churned out[[note]]due to "[[https://en.[[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_content CanCon policies]] forcing Canadian content]]" policies, animation to promote Canadian culture [[/note]] be constantly churned out (the show's ratings are were abysmal). The series ended with little fanfare after TV producer David Straiton filed a lawsuit against series creator Scott Fellows for not crediting him as a co-creator for ''Johnny Test''. It's very telling that its season boxsets are sold solely in ''grocery store bargain bins'', and even Creator/CartoonNetwork (who got the American broadcast rights from Creator/TheCW after the demise of Kids WB) seems to despise it as almost all of their promotions for it reek of OurProductSucks. It's even believed that the whole show was a SpringtimeForHitler ploy GoneHorriblyWrong. Today, other than a few projects from Creator/JamesArnoldTaylor (who voiced the title character), and a few {{Take That}}s here and there, it's almost never discussed.
4th Dec '16 6:13:06 PM HighCrate
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* Not too long ago, it was extremely popular for animation companies to outsource voice acting to Canadian studios. While Toronto and Montreal were used somewhat in the 1980s, it really took off in the 1990s when people were contacting Vancouver studios for shows from both sides of the Pacific. Guys like Creator/ScottMcNeil and Creator/BrianDrummond became well known to {{anime}} fans, and whenever Creator/DicEntertainment did a show, chances are it was recorded in Canada. This even led to hybrid casts of Canadian-American talent. Times have changed, however. These shows had a reputation for having a limited pool of actors. The unions improved and the recession hit, removing the main reason people used these guys, and tainting them as poor man's voice actors. Canadian animation entered a DorkAge (spearheaded by ''WesternAnimation/JohnnyTest''), further tainting their reputation. The final nail in the coffin was Creator/CookieJarEntertainment (now part of Creator/DHXMedia), which absorbed [=DiC=] in 2008 and decided to limit their shows' casts to [[OnlySoManyCanadianActors Canadian talent]]. While it ''may'' be making a comeback (with Creator/DreamworksAnimation outsourcing the cast of ''WesternAnimation/{{Dinotrux}}'' there in 2015), nowadays chances are if the actors are Canadian, the show is Canadian, and very few are as popular as American [=VAs=], and most of the ones that are moved.[[note]] Creator/TaraStrong nee Charendoff, Creator/CreeSummer (Franks), and Creator/MauriceLaMarche worked in Toronto around the 80's and 90's. Creator/ErinFitzgerald had a couple roles here and there before she went to LA. Creator/DavidSobolov was in WesternAnimation/BeastWars. Creator/DavidKaye made a name of himself with Creator/TheOceanGroup. Jason Gray-Stanford did voices in Vancouver before moving to focus on live action.[[/note]]. Case in point, Creator/TrevorDevall, despite having an impressive resume, is better remembered as [[WesternAnimation/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy Rocket Raccoon]], and that was after he moved.
* [[GrossoutShow Grossout cartoons]] were absolutely '''huge''' in the early-mid '90s. At a time when the more saccharine cartoons of the previous decade were starting to phase out, the surprise success of shows like ''WesternAnimation/TheRenAndStimpyShow'' and ''WesternAnimation/BeavisAndButthead'' had networks scrambling to get their own piece of the pie. This led to a large amount of [[FollowTheLeader similar shows]]. In fact, it was hard to think of a major channel that aired cartoons that didn't have at ''least'' one show of this variety. As the decade wrapped up, however, and some of these shows ended, the appearance of newer cartoons of this ilk became much rarer. When Creator/JohnKricfalusi tried his hand at two new shows in the millennium (''Ren And Stimpy Adult Party Cartoon'' and ''WesternAnimation/TheRippingFriends''), they were rather big duds and soon cancelled. Although some modern cartoons have the gross-out element intact (such as ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'', to the dismay of fans), it's doubtful that this genre will be as heavily popular as it was years back.
* Children's cartoons that are based on R-rated film properties. TheEighties and TheNineties had several of them: ''Film/PoliceAcademy''[[labelnote:see note]]only the first film was rated R; the second film was rated PG-13 and the rest were rated PG[[/labelnote]], ''Franchise/{{Rambo}}'' (''WesternAnimation/RamboTheForceOfFreedom''), ''Franchise/{{Highlander}}'' (''[[WesternAnimation/HighlanderTheAnimatedSeries The Animated Series]]''), ''Franchise/{{Robocop}}'' (''WesternAnimation/RoboCopTheAnimatedSeries''), ''Film/TheToxicAvenger'' (''WesternAnimation/ToxicCrusaders''), and ''Franchise/ConanTheBarbarian'' (''WesternAnimation/ConanTheAdventurer'') all had heavily watered-down and sanitized children's animated versions. [[AudienceAlienatingPremise This will not gain them viewers with the audience old enough to see the film versions, and children will only get too confused about why they aren't allowed to see the films on which these cartoons are based.]]
* {{Limited animation}} on TV and film. Once a revolutionary (and less expensive) reaction to the Disneyfication of animation in TheForties and TheFifties thanks to efforts by {{UPA}} and pioneering use of Creator/HannaBarbera's output, is now this for causing the AnimationAgeGhetto from TheSeventies onwards to the point of {{parody}}.
* Animated sexploitation films (outside of early Creator/RalphBakshi's) were once popular in TheSeventies, but from TheEighties afterwards are DTD thanks to better and smarter adult fare like ''WesternAnimation/SausageParty'' and the Oscar-nominated ''WesternAnimation/{{Anomalisa}}''.
* The infamous glut of DirectToVideo {{sequel|itis}}s from 1994 to 2007 (particularly those that plagued the Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon and the works of Creator/DonBluth) is now all but dead. While they were never without a PeripheryHatedom due to their lower writing and production values, they were nonetheless very successful with their target audience. Inevitably, their status as SnarkBait grew (even ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' [[JustForFun/AladdinIVJafarMayNeedGlasses took a potshot at them]]), and before long they gave their producers a reputation as [[MoneyDearBoy heartless money-grubbers]] content to milk their {{Cash Cow Franchise}}s dry and release cheap crap meant only to babysit a FleetingDemographic, until JohnLasseter personally put an end to any future {{Disney}} DTV Sequels. (There was a SpiritualSuccessor in the form of the ''Franchise/DisneyFairies'' spinoff movies, which eventually petered out after five films as the line's popularity began to wane.) The other major sequel franchise, ''WesternAnimation/TheLandBeforeTime'', lasted until [[ThirteenIsUnlucky the thirteenth installment]], ''the Wisdom of Friends'', [[FranchiseKiller which was so poorly recieved that]] [[EveryoneHasStandards even little kids were disappointed by it]]. Surprisingly, the series would try again [[SequelGap nine years later]] with ''Journey of the Brave'', to a near universal reaction of "They're making ''another one?!''" Only the less popular movies, like ''WesternAnimation/AlphaAndOmega'' and ''WesternAnimation/OpenSeason'', are still sending their sequels straight to DVD. Considering that [[HeardItAMillionTimes making fun of crappy DTV sequels has become tiresome in of itself]], a true revival of the practice seems unlikely, and for good reason.
* Motion-capture animated films. Once successful thanks to Creator/RobertZemeckis's ''WesternAnimation/ThePolarExpress'' and ''WesternAnimation/{{Beowulf|2007}}'', are now this due to UncannyValley features alongside the failure of ''WesternAnimation/MarsNeedsMoms''.



* [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Pij-SxZLeM A Greek Tragedy]], a little known yet acclaimed 1986 Belgian toon about three scantily clad Ancient Greek statues, won an Oscar for Best Animated Short Film...... over another acclaimed (and at the time revolutionary) film made by a then-unknown computer company named Creator/{{Pixar}}. ''A Greek Tragedy'' is now considered as the worst animated winner of all time and is mainly remembered as [[AwardSnub "the movie that took Luxo Jr's Oscar"]].



* ''WesternAnimation/DrawnTogether'' has largely faded from the public consciousness. When the show debuted, it was successful with many enjoying its [[AllAdultAnimationIsSouthPark shock comedy]] and concept of different characters from various animation genres living together as housemates. However, as the series progressed, many fans became rather annoyed that the characters became even bigger assholes (e.g., Clara was turned from a sweet if [[InnocentBigot unintentionally racist]] princess into a KnightTemplar religious bigot), while the humor was either [[DudeNotFunny excessively crude]] or [[NauseaFuel too gross to be enjoyed]]. It really didn't help matters that the polarizing [[CreatorsPet Captain Hero]] [[SpotlightStealingSquad began taking up more screen time]] since the middle of Season 2. Throw in [[ScrewedByTheNetwork constantly changing timeslots]] for season 3 along with a divisive GrandFinale movie, and the series is more or less dead. By now, former fans have moved onto other series while DT currently lingers in obscurity.



* Back in the 90's, ''WesternAnimation/CaptainPlanetAndThePlaneteers'' was a big hit, praised for its environmental messages and groundbreaking ([[FairForItsDay at the time]]) episodes (with topics such as [=AIDS=] and overpopulation). It had an AllStarCast, [[TheOtherDarrin even the replacements were prolific.]] Nowadays, [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff unless you're Brazilian or Australian]], it's mainly criticized for an over-reliance on stereotypes (it doesn't help that ''[[FakeNationality all of the main cast were actually Americans]]''), lack of imagination in its powers (especially in the wake of ''WesterAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender''), and [[{{Anvilicious}} those very]] [[SocietyMarchesOn same messages]]. Whenever it's brought up, it's usually to mock it (to the point where most people are more aware of [[Webvideo/TheNostalgiaCritic Bargrav's version of Ma-Ti]] than Creator/ScottMenville's. ''[[LargeHam PUSSY!]]'') and many of those "groundbreaking episodes" have in hindsight since been criticized for having UnfortunateImplications galore.
* The ''WesternAnimation/SuperMarioBros'' cartoons were huge hits when they first came out. It was quite possibly the most famous adaption at the time, and its target audience ate it up, which may come as a surprise to people who only know about it through the endless {{Youtube Poop}}s and [[MemeticMutation internet memes]] it spawned. One episode of ''Super Mario Bros 3'' even guest starred Music/MilliVanilli [[DeaderThanDisco/{{Music}} only a few weeks before they were exposed for lip syncing]]. Nowadays they're generally known for a few things: the aforementioned poops and memes, most of which have gotten old, starring Creator/CaptainLouAlbano and Danny Welk as the title characters ([[TheOtherDarrin at first]]), featuring Creator/TaraStrong and Creator/TabithaStGermain [[RetroactiveRecognition before they were well known]], and for being a show everyone makes fun of.



* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' also parodied this trope
** Gabbo in "Krusty Gets Kancelled". When he debuted, he was popular enough to bury Krusty in the ratings and drove him to cancellation. Not even Bart's attempt to destroy Gabbo's reputation by broadcasting his obscene remarks about the children of Springfield worked. After the big success of Krusty's comeback special, Gabbo was quickly forgotten. It didn't help that Krusty managed to get many A-List celebrities while Gabbo could only get Ray J. Johnson.
** "Bart vs. Australia" discussed [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff the American fascination with Australian culture]] in TheEighties, including such works as ''Film/CrocodileDundee'', and YahooSerious' films such as ''Film/YoungEinstein'', the latter prompting Lisa to say, "I know those words, but that sign makes no sense."
* ''WesternAnimation/TheBoondocks'' episode "Return of the King" saw this happen to MartinLutherKingJr InAWorld where he was rendered comatose rather than killed, and woke up in post-9/11 America. When he insisted that the Muslim people be seen as fellow human beings, not enemies to be annihilated, he became reviled by all but a few instantly. He did manage to regain favor by [[ReasonYouSuckSpeech expressing his disappointment in the black community in a sequel to his "I Have a Dream" speech]], but by then he was so disillusioned that [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere he retired from activism and moved to Canada]].
11th Nov '16 4:16:48 PM Kelothan
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* The infamous glut of DirectToVideo {{sequel|itis}}s from 1994 to 2007 (particularly those that plagued the Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon and the works of Creator/DonBluth) is now all but dead. While they were never without a PeripheryHatedom due to their lower writing and production values, they were nonetheless very successful with their target audience. Inevitably, their status as SnarkBait grew (even ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' [[JustForFun/AladdinIVJafarMayNeedGlasses took a potshot at them]]), and before long they gave their producers a reputation as [[MoneyDearBoy heartless money-grubbers]] content to milk their {{Cash Cow Franchise}}s dry and release cheap crap meant only to babysit a FleetingDemographic, until JohnLasseter personally put an end to any future {{Disney}} DTV Sequels. (There was a SpiritualSuccessor in the form of the ''Franchise/DisneyFairies'' spinoff movies, which eventually petered out after five films as the line's popularity began to wane.) The other major sequel franchise, ''WesternAnimation/TheLandBeforeTime'', lasted until [[ThirteenIsUnlucky the thirteenth installment]], ''the Wisdom of Friends'', [[FranchiseKiller which was so poorly recieved that]] [[EveryoneHasStandards even little kids were disappointed by it]]. Surprisingly, the series would try again [[SequelGap nine years later]] with ''Journey of the Brave'', to a near universal reaction of "They're making ''another one?!'' Only the more forgettable movies, like ''WesternAnimation/AlphaAndOmega'' and ''WesternAnimation/AlphaAndOmega'', are still sending their sequels straight to DVD. Considering that [[HeardItAMillionTimes making fun of crappy DTV sequels has become tiresome in of itself]], a true revival of the practice seems unlikely, and for good reason.

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* The infamous glut of DirectToVideo {{sequel|itis}}s from 1994 to 2007 (particularly those that plagued the Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon and the works of Creator/DonBluth) is now all but dead. While they were never without a PeripheryHatedom due to their lower writing and production values, they were nonetheless very successful with their target audience. Inevitably, their status as SnarkBait grew (even ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' [[JustForFun/AladdinIVJafarMayNeedGlasses took a potshot at them]]), and before long they gave their producers a reputation as [[MoneyDearBoy heartless money-grubbers]] content to milk their {{Cash Cow Franchise}}s dry and release cheap crap meant only to babysit a FleetingDemographic, until JohnLasseter personally put an end to any future {{Disney}} DTV Sequels. (There was a SpiritualSuccessor in the form of the ''Franchise/DisneyFairies'' spinoff movies, which eventually petered out after five films as the line's popularity began to wane.) The other major sequel franchise, ''WesternAnimation/TheLandBeforeTime'', lasted until [[ThirteenIsUnlucky the thirteenth installment]], ''the Wisdom of Friends'', [[FranchiseKiller which was so poorly recieved that]] [[EveryoneHasStandards even little kids were disappointed by it]]. Surprisingly, the series would try again [[SequelGap nine years later]] with ''Journey of the Brave'', to a near universal reaction of "They're making ''another one?!'' one?!''" Only the more forgettable less popular movies, like ''WesternAnimation/AlphaAndOmega'' and ''WesternAnimation/AlphaAndOmega'', ''WesternAnimation/OpenSeason'', are still sending their sequels straight to DVD. Considering that [[HeardItAMillionTimes making fun of crappy DTV sequels has become tiresome in of itself]], a true revival of the practice seems unlikely, and for good reason.
11th Nov '16 1:04:26 AM AreYouTyler
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* The infamous glut of DirectToVideo {{sequel|itis}}s from 1994 to 2007 (particularly those that plagued the Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon and the works of Creator/DonBluth) is now all but dead. While they were never without a PeripheryHatedom due to their lower writing and production values, they were nonetheless very successful with their target audience. Inevitably, their status as SnarkBait grew (even ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' [[JustForFun/AladdinIVJafarMayNeedGlasses took a potshot at them]]), and before long they gave their producers a reputation as [[MoneyDearBoy heartless money-grubbers]] content to milk their {{Cash Cow Franchise}}s dry and release cheap crap meant only to babysit a FleetingDemographic, until JohnLasseter personally put an end to any future {{Disney}} DTV Sequels. (There was a SpiritualSuccessor in the form of the ''Franchise/DisneyFairies'' spinoff movies, which eventually petered out after five films as the line's popularity began to wane.) The other major sequel franchise, ''WesternAnimation/TheLandBeforeTime'', lasted until [[ThirteenIsUnlucky the thirteenth installment]], ''the Wisdom of Friends'', [[FranchiseKiller which was so poorly recieved that]] [[EveryoneHasStandards even little kids were disappointed by it]]. Surprisingly, the series would try again [[SequelGap nine years later]] with ''Journey of the Brave'', to a near universal reaction of "They're making ''another one?!''" Considering that [[HeardItAMillionTimes making fun of crappy DTV sequels has become tiresome in of itself]], a true revival of the practice seems unlikely, and for good reason.

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* The infamous glut of DirectToVideo {{sequel|itis}}s from 1994 to 2007 (particularly those that plagued the Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon and the works of Creator/DonBluth) is now all but dead. While they were never without a PeripheryHatedom due to their lower writing and production values, they were nonetheless very successful with their target audience. Inevitably, their status as SnarkBait grew (even ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' [[JustForFun/AladdinIVJafarMayNeedGlasses took a potshot at them]]), and before long they gave their producers a reputation as [[MoneyDearBoy heartless money-grubbers]] content to milk their {{Cash Cow Franchise}}s dry and release cheap crap meant only to babysit a FleetingDemographic, until JohnLasseter personally put an end to any future {{Disney}} DTV Sequels. (There was a SpiritualSuccessor in the form of the ''Franchise/DisneyFairies'' spinoff movies, which eventually petered out after five films as the line's popularity began to wane.) The other major sequel franchise, ''WesternAnimation/TheLandBeforeTime'', lasted until [[ThirteenIsUnlucky the thirteenth installment]], ''the Wisdom of Friends'', [[FranchiseKiller which was so poorly recieved that]] [[EveryoneHasStandards even little kids were disappointed by it]]. Surprisingly, the series would try again [[SequelGap nine years later]] with ''Journey of the Brave'', to a near universal reaction of "They're making ''another one?!''" one?!'' Only the more forgettable movies, like ''WesternAnimation/AlphaAndOmega'' and ''WesternAnimation/AlphaAndOmega'', are still sending their sequels straight to DVD. Considering that [[HeardItAMillionTimes making fun of crappy DTV sequels has become tiresome in of itself]], a true revival of the practice seems unlikely, and for good reason.
10th Nov '16 5:56:54 AM Prinzenick
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* The infamous glut of DirectToVideo {{sequel|itis}}s from 1994 to 2007 (particularly those that plagued the Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon and the works of Creator/DonBluth) is now all but dead. While they were never without a PeripheryHatedom due to their lower writing and production values, they were nonetheless very successful with their target audience. Inevitably, their status as SnarkBait grew (even ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' [[JustForFun/AladdinIVJafarMayNeedGlasses took a potshot at them]]), and before long they gave their producers a reputation as [[MoneyDearBoy heartless money-grubbers]] content to milk their {{Cash Cow Franchise}}s dry and release cheap crap meant only to babysit a FleetingDemographic, until JohnLasseter personally put an end to any future {{Disney}} DTV Sequels. (There was a SpiritualSuccessor the ''Franchise/DisneyFairies'' movies, which eventually petered out after five movies as the line's popularity began to wane.) The other major sequel franchise, ''WesternAnimation/TheLandBeforeTime'', lasted until [[ThirteenIsUnlucky the thirteenth installment]], ''the Wisdom of Friends'', [[FranchiseKiller which was so poorly recieved that]] [[EveryoneHasStandards even little kids were disappointed by it]]. Surprisingly, the series would try again [[SequelGap nine years later]] with ''Journey of the Brave'', to a near universal reaction of "They're making ''another one?!''" Considering that [[HeardItAMillionTimes making fun of crappy DTV sequels has become tiresome in of itself]], a true revival of the practice seems unlikely, and for good reason.

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* The infamous glut of DirectToVideo {{sequel|itis}}s from 1994 to 2007 (particularly those that plagued the Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon and the works of Creator/DonBluth) is now all but dead. While they were never without a PeripheryHatedom due to their lower writing and production values, they were nonetheless very successful with their target audience. Inevitably, their status as SnarkBait grew (even ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' [[JustForFun/AladdinIVJafarMayNeedGlasses took a potshot at them]]), and before long they gave their producers a reputation as [[MoneyDearBoy heartless money-grubbers]] content to milk their {{Cash Cow Franchise}}s dry and release cheap crap meant only to babysit a FleetingDemographic, until JohnLasseter personally put an end to any future {{Disney}} DTV Sequels. (There was a SpiritualSuccessor in the form of the ''Franchise/DisneyFairies'' spinoff movies, which eventually petered out after five movies films as the line's popularity began to wane.) The other major sequel franchise, ''WesternAnimation/TheLandBeforeTime'', lasted until [[ThirteenIsUnlucky the thirteenth installment]], ''the Wisdom of Friends'', [[FranchiseKiller which was so poorly recieved that]] [[EveryoneHasStandards even little kids were disappointed by it]]. Surprisingly, the series would try again [[SequelGap nine years later]] with ''Journey of the Brave'', to a near universal reaction of "They're making ''another one?!''" Considering that [[HeardItAMillionTimes making fun of crappy DTV sequels has become tiresome in of itself]], a true revival of the practice seems unlikely, and for good reason.
9th Nov '16 6:20:38 AM Kelothan
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* The infamous glut of DirectToVideo {{sequel|itis}}s from 1994 to 2007 (particularly those that plagued the Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon and the works of Creator/DonBluth) is now all but dead. While they were never without a PeripheryHatedom due to their lower writing and production values, they were nonetheless very successful with their target audience. Inevitably, their status as SnarkBait grew (even ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' [[JustForFun/AladdinIVJafarMayNeedGlasses took a potshot at them]]), and before long they gave their producers a reputation as [[MoneyDearBoy heartless money-grubbers]] content to milk their {{Cash Cow Franchise}}s dry and release cheap crap meant only to babysit a FleetingDemographic, until JohnLasseter personally put an end to any future {{Disney}} DTV Sequels. (There was a SpiritualSuccessor the ''Franchise/DisneyFairies'' movies, which eventually petered out after five movies as the line's popularity began to wane.) The other major sequel franchise, ''WesternAnimation/TheLandBeforeTime'', lasted until [[ThirteenIsUnlucky the thirteenth installment]], ''the Wisdom of Friends'', [[FranchiseKiller which was so lousy that]] [[EveryoneHasStandards even little kids were disappointed by it]]. Surprisingly, the series would try again [[SequelGap nine years later]] with ''Journey of the Brave'', to a near universal reaction of "They're making ''another one?!''" Considering that [[HeardItAMillionTimes making fun of crappy DTV sequels has become tiresome in of itself]], a true revival of the practice seems unlikely, and for good reason.

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* The infamous glut of DirectToVideo {{sequel|itis}}s from 1994 to 2007 (particularly those that plagued the Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon and the works of Creator/DonBluth) is now all but dead. While they were never without a PeripheryHatedom due to their lower writing and production values, they were nonetheless very successful with their target audience. Inevitably, their status as SnarkBait grew (even ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' [[JustForFun/AladdinIVJafarMayNeedGlasses took a potshot at them]]), and before long they gave their producers a reputation as [[MoneyDearBoy heartless money-grubbers]] content to milk their {{Cash Cow Franchise}}s dry and release cheap crap meant only to babysit a FleetingDemographic, until JohnLasseter personally put an end to any future {{Disney}} DTV Sequels. (There was a SpiritualSuccessor the ''Franchise/DisneyFairies'' movies, which eventually petered out after five movies as the line's popularity began to wane.) The other major sequel franchise, ''WesternAnimation/TheLandBeforeTime'', lasted until [[ThirteenIsUnlucky the thirteenth installment]], ''the Wisdom of Friends'', [[FranchiseKiller which was so lousy poorly recieved that]] [[EveryoneHasStandards even little kids were disappointed by it]]. Surprisingly, the series would try again [[SequelGap nine years later]] with ''Journey of the Brave'', to a near universal reaction of "They're making ''another one?!''" Considering that [[HeardItAMillionTimes making fun of crappy DTV sequels has become tiresome in of itself]], a true revival of the practice seems unlikely, and for good reason.
8th Nov '16 7:19:05 PM Noah1
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* Ethnic and gender stereotypes or caricatures (along with cartoon violence) were very prevalent in old cartoons made in TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation. However, starting in 1968, these were increasingly censored in TV re-airings or the cartoons were banned altogether, like the Censored Eleven first to go were gags about Black people, then one by one jokes about Japanese, Native Americans, and Mexicans received informal bans. Today, the only cartoons that still use ethnic jokes, albeit under a satirical hood, are adult cartoon series.
* Not too long ago, it was extremely popular for animation companies to outsource voice acting to Canadian studios. While Toronto and Montreal were used somewhat in the 1980s, it really took off in the 1990s when people were contacting Vancouver studios for shows from both sides of the Pacific. Guys like Creator/ScottMcNeil and Creator/BrianDrummond became well known to anime fans, and whenever Creator/DicEntertainment did a show, chances are it was recorded in Canada. This even led to hybrid casts of Canadian-American talent. Times have changed, however. These shows had a reputation for having a limited pool of actors. The unions improved and the recession hit, removing the main reason people used these guys, and tainting them as poor man's voice actors. Canadian animation entered a DorkAge (spearheaded by ''WesternAnimation/JohnnyTest''), further tainting their reputation. The final nail in the coffin was Creator/CookieJarEntertainment (now part of Creator/DHXMedia), which absorbed [=DiC=] in 2008 and decided to limit their shows' casts to [[OnlySoManyCanadianActors Canadian talent]]. While it ''may'' be making a comeback (with Creator/DreamworksAnimation outsourcing the cast of ''WesternAnimation/{{Dinotrux}}'' there in 2015), nowadays chances are if the actors are Canadian, the show is Canadian, and very few are as popular as American [=VAs=], and most of the ones that are moved.[[note]] Creator/TaraStrong nee Charendoff, Creator/CreeSummer (Franks), and Creator/MauriceLaMarche worked in Toronto around the 80's and 90's. Creator/ErinFitzgerald had a couple roles here and there before she went to LA. Creator/DavidSobolov was in WesternAnimation/BeastWars. Creator/DavidKaye made a name of himself with Creator/TheOceanGroup. Jason Gray-Stanford did voices in Vancouver before moving to focus on live action.[[/note]]. Case in point, Creator/TrevorDevall, despite having an impressive resume, is better remembered as [[WesternAnimation/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy Rocket Raccoon]], and that was after he moved.

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* Ethnic and gender stereotypes or caricatures (along with cartoon violence) were very prevalent in old cartoons made in TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation. However, starting in 1968, these were increasingly censored in TV re-airings or the cartoons were banned altogether, like the Censored Eleven - first to go were gags about Black people, then one by one jokes about Japanese, Native Americans, and Mexicans received informal bans. Today, the only cartoons that still use ethnic jokes, albeit under a satirical hood, are adult cartoon series.
* Not too long ago, it was extremely popular for animation companies to outsource voice acting to Canadian studios. While Toronto and Montreal were used somewhat in the 1980s, it really took off in the 1990s when people were contacting Vancouver studios for shows from both sides of the Pacific. Guys like Creator/ScottMcNeil and Creator/BrianDrummond became well known to anime {{anime}} fans, and whenever Creator/DicEntertainment did a show, chances are it was recorded in Canada. This even led to hybrid casts of Canadian-American talent. Times have changed, however. These shows had a reputation for having a limited pool of actors. The unions improved and the recession hit, removing the main reason people used these guys, and tainting them as poor man's voice actors. Canadian animation entered a DorkAge (spearheaded by ''WesternAnimation/JohnnyTest''), further tainting their reputation. The final nail in the coffin was Creator/CookieJarEntertainment (now part of Creator/DHXMedia), which absorbed [=DiC=] in 2008 and decided to limit their shows' casts to [[OnlySoManyCanadianActors Canadian talent]]. While it ''may'' be making a comeback (with Creator/DreamworksAnimation outsourcing the cast of ''WesternAnimation/{{Dinotrux}}'' there in 2015), nowadays chances are if the actors are Canadian, the show is Canadian, and very few are as popular as American [=VAs=], and most of the ones that are moved.[[note]] Creator/TaraStrong nee Charendoff, Creator/CreeSummer (Franks), and Creator/MauriceLaMarche worked in Toronto around the 80's and 90's. Creator/ErinFitzgerald had a couple roles here and there before she went to LA. Creator/DavidSobolov was in WesternAnimation/BeastWars. Creator/DavidKaye made a name of himself with Creator/TheOceanGroup. Jason Gray-Stanford did voices in Vancouver before moving to focus on live action.[[/note]]. Case in point, Creator/TrevorDevall, despite having an impressive resume, is better remembered as [[WesternAnimation/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy Rocket Raccoon]], and that was after he moved.



* The DirectToVideo {{sequel|itis}}, particularly those that plagued the Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon and the works of Creator/DonBluth, are now all but dead. While they were never without a PeripheryHatedom, they were nonetheless very successful with their target audience. Inevitably, their status as SnarkBait grew (even ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' [[JustForFun/AladdinIVJafarMayNeedGlasses took a potshot at them]]), and before long they gave their producers a reputation as heartless money-grubbers content to milk their {{Cash Cow Franchise}}s dry to release cheap crap meant only to distract a FleetingDemographic, until JohnLasseter personally put an end to any future {{Disney}} DTV Sequels. (The only exception since then has been the ''Franchise/DisneyFairies'' line, which eventually petered out after five movies as the line's popularity began to wane.) The other major sequel franchise, ''WesternAnimation/TheLandBeforeTime'', lasted until [[ThirteenIsUnlucky the thirteenth installment]], ''the Wisdom of Friends'', [[FranchiseKiller which was so lousy that]] [[EveryoneHasStandards even little kids were disappointed by it]]. Surprisingly, the series would try again [[SequelGap nine years later]] with ''Journey of the Brave'', to a near universal reaction of "They're making another one?!" Considering that [[HeardItAMillionTimes making fun of crappy DTV sequels has gotten tiresome in of itself]], a true revival of the practice seems unlikely, and for good reason.

to:

* The infamous glut of DirectToVideo {{sequel|itis}}, particularly {{sequel|itis}}s from 1994 to 2007 (particularly those that plagued the Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon and the works of Creator/DonBluth, are Creator/DonBluth) is now all but dead. While they were never without a PeripheryHatedom, PeripheryHatedom due to their lower writing and production values, they were nonetheless very successful with their target audience. Inevitably, their status as SnarkBait grew (even ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' [[JustForFun/AladdinIVJafarMayNeedGlasses took a potshot at them]]), and before long they gave their producers a reputation as [[MoneyDearBoy heartless money-grubbers money-grubbers]] content to milk their {{Cash Cow Franchise}}s dry to and release cheap crap meant only to distract babysit a FleetingDemographic, until JohnLasseter personally put an end to any future {{Disney}} DTV Sequels. (The only exception since then has been (There was a SpiritualSuccessor the ''Franchise/DisneyFairies'' line, movies, which eventually petered out after five movies as the line's popularity began to wane.) The other major sequel franchise, ''WesternAnimation/TheLandBeforeTime'', lasted until [[ThirteenIsUnlucky the thirteenth installment]], ''the Wisdom of Friends'', [[FranchiseKiller which was so lousy that]] [[EveryoneHasStandards even little kids were disappointed by it]]. Surprisingly, the series would try again [[SequelGap nine years later]] with ''Journey of the Brave'', to a near universal reaction of "They're making another one?!" ''another one?!''" Considering that [[HeardItAMillionTimes making fun of crappy DTV sequels has gotten become tiresome in of itself]], a true revival of the practice seems unlikely, and for good reason.
7th Nov '16 7:05:20 PM BackgroundGuy
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* ''WesternAnimation/LittleBill'' is now deader than disco after series creator Creator/BillCosby was charged with multiple rape accusations. This was enough for Creator/NickJr to pull the series from reruns.
4th Nov '16 11:33:36 PM Kelothan
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* The ''WesternAnimation/SuperMarioBros'' cartoons were huge hits when they first came out. It was quite possibly the most famous adaption at the time, and its target audience ate it up, which may come as a surprise to people who only know about it through the endless {{Youtube Poop}}s and [[MemeticMutation internet memes]] it spawned. One episode of ''Super Mario Bros 3'' even guest starred Music/MilliVanilli [[DeaderThanDisco/{{Music}} only a few weeks before they were exposed for lip syncing]]. Nowadays they're generally known for a few things: the aforementioned poops and memes, most of which have gotten old, starring Creator/CaptainLouAlbano and Danny Welk as the title characters ([[TheOtherDarrin at first]]), featuring Creator/TaraStrong and Creator/TabithaStGermain [[RetroactiveRecognition before they were well known]], and for being a dumb show everyone make fun of.

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* The ''WesternAnimation/SuperMarioBros'' cartoons were huge hits when they first came out. It was quite possibly the most famous adaption at the time, and its target audience ate it up, which may come as a surprise to people who only know about it through the endless {{Youtube Poop}}s and [[MemeticMutation internet memes]] it spawned. One episode of ''Super Mario Bros 3'' even guest starred Music/MilliVanilli [[DeaderThanDisco/{{Music}} only a few weeks before they were exposed for lip syncing]]. Nowadays they're generally known for a few things: the aforementioned poops and memes, most of which have gotten old, starring Creator/CaptainLouAlbano and Danny Welk as the title characters ([[TheOtherDarrin at first]]), featuring Creator/TaraStrong and Creator/TabithaStGermain [[RetroactiveRecognition before they were well known]], and for being a dumb show everyone make makes fun of.
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