History DeaderThanDisco / LiveActionTV

1st May '16 9:01:26 PM KoopaKid17
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** Game shows that use the rollover/straddling format disappeared around the same time ''Series/ThePriceisRight'' became the last of its kind on daytime television. Up until the late 1980s, many game shows were not contained within its allotted time slot and had to be continued on the next episode. Only a couple of shows attempted this after the 1990s, both short-lived efforts (the final season of the Tom Bergeron-hosted ''Series/TheHollywoodSquares'' and early episodes of ''Series/DealOrNoDeal'').
29th Apr '16 11:55:37 PM TMC6882
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* Throughout its original run, ''Series/{{Scrubs}}'' received critical acclaim, with many critics praising its cast, characters, and humor (especially J.D.'s fantasy sequences). Despite all of the accolades, the show arguably never truly got much respect. First and foremost, despite lasting nine seasons, ''Scrubs'' was never a hugely rated show. The highest it ever ranked in the Nielsens was #14 during its second season. More to the point, ''Scrubs'' for better or for worse, was a very quirky (not just the characters, but some of the stuff they did), niche show (before ultimately devolving into glib, gimmicky self-parody). Unlike other sitcoms where you could expect 20 out of 22 shows to be funny the entire show, ''Scrubs'' more than often dealt with death since it was set in a hospital. Sometimes the death was just death, but, other times it was very sad. This in return perhaps also didn't help its syndication value, as unassumed viewers likely aren't really equipped to be taken on an emotional journey. ''Scrubs'' was also arguably a victim of bad timing. To give you a better idea, ''Scrubs'' premiered amongst an otherwise weak and forgettable freshman sitcom class with ''Series/{{Reba}}'' and ''Series/AccordingToJim'' the big standouts besides ''Scrubs''. ''Scrubs'' also didn't fit in with the NBC shows that were already on the air. During its first two seasons, it aired alongside multi-camera sitcoms like ''Frasier'', and subsequently, ''Friends'' and ''Will & Grace''. After bouncing around the schedule for a few more years (and given the task to support failed NBC shows like ''Series/FatherOfThePride'', ''Committed'', ''{{Series/Joey}}'' and ''Teachers''), ''Scrubs'' finally settled next to ''The Office''. However, by this point (the 2007 WGA Strike didn't help), NBC had seen enough and announced that ''The Office'' and Scrubs would be replaced by ''Celebrity Apprentice''. NBC later announced that they would leave ''Scrubs'' on hiatus for the time being and fill the 89 pm timeslot with various specials and repeats. ABC soon picked it up for its final two seasons (the ninth season saw a quasi-spin-off that focused on students at a med school at the fictional Winston University, rather than interns at a hospital), and it aired after a reality series called ''Homeland Security USA''. That was until it changed time slots again. It finished out its run with its own rerun as a lead-in. So in effect, ''Scrubs'' got the shaft from NBC and ABC in terms of scheduling, and it never had the same time slot for more than season. That more or less taints its legacy by making it seem like an also-ran. Finally, some people for whatever reasons, just don't like Creator/ZachBraff. It could be because his character, JD got more and more goofy and ridiculous (far from just being a quirky guy) which made him less relatable. It is possible however, to both enjoy ''Scrubs'' and dislike his screenwriting (e.g. ''Film/GardenState'').

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* Throughout its original run, ''Series/{{Scrubs}}'' received critical acclaim, with many critics praising its cast, characters, and humor (especially J.D.'s fantasy sequences). Despite all of the accolades, the show arguably never truly got much respect. First and foremost, despite lasting nine seasons, ''Scrubs'' was never a hugely rated show. The highest it ever ranked in the Nielsens was #14 during its second season. More to the point, ''Scrubs'' for better or for worse, was a very quirky (not just the characters, but some of the stuff they did), niche show (before ultimately devolving into glib, gimmicky self-parody). Unlike other sitcoms where you could expect 20 out of 22 shows to be funny the entire show, ''Scrubs'' more than often dealt with death since it was set in a hospital. Sometimes the death was just death, but, other times it was very sad. This in return perhaps also didn't help its syndication value, as unassumed viewers likely aren't really equipped to be taken on an emotional journey. ''Scrubs'' was also arguably a victim of bad timing. To give you a better idea, ''Scrubs'' premiered amongst an otherwise weak and forgettable freshman sitcom class with ''Series/{{Reba}}'' and ''Series/AccordingToJim'' the big standouts besides ''Scrubs''. ''Scrubs'' also didn't fit in with the NBC shows that were already on the air. During its first two seasons, it aired alongside multi-camera sitcoms like ''Frasier'', and subsequently, ''Friends'' and ''Will & Grace''. After bouncing around the schedule for a few more years (and given the task to support failed NBC shows like ''Series/FatherOfThePride'', ''Committed'', ''{{Series/Joey}}'' and ''Teachers''), ''Scrubs'' finally settled next to ''The Office''. However, by this point (the 2007 WGA Strike didn't help), NBC had seen enough and announced that ''The Office'' and Scrubs ''Scrubs'' would be replaced by ''Celebrity Apprentice''. NBC later announced that they would leave ''Scrubs'' on hiatus for the time being and fill the 89 pm timeslot with various specials and repeats. ABC soon picked it up for its final two seasons (the ninth season saw a quasi-spin-off that focused on students at a med school at the fictional Winston University, rather than interns at a hospital), and it aired after a reality series called ''Homeland Security USA''. That was until it changed time slots again. It finished out its run with its own rerun as a lead-in. So in effect, ''Scrubs'' got the shaft from NBC and ABC in terms of scheduling, and it never had the same time slot for more than season. That more or less taints its legacy by making it seem like an also-ran. Finally, some people for whatever reasons, just don't like Creator/ZachBraff. It could be because his character, JD got more and more goofy and ridiculous (far from just being a quirky guy) which made him less relatable. It is possible however, to both enjoy ''Scrubs'' and dislike his screenwriting (e.g. ''Film/GardenState'').
29th Apr '16 9:53:09 AM avon
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* Interstitials, usually locally made vignettes of an educational or edutainment were once shown frequently to fill the excess time after shows or movies that end ten to fifteen minutes before the hour (North American shows usually start on the hour or half hour). They were often animated shorts aimed at children, especially during the SaturdayMorningCartoon era (''SchoolhouseRock'' being an example). They also took the form of editorials and other opinion pieces. On public television, they were often educational shorts (such as Jack Horkheimer's long running ''Star Hustler'', Newton's Apple or Alive From Off Center). These were especially prolific of {{PBS}} and other public television station due to the lack of commercial advertisements. The biggest reason these died is the way local TV changed in the early to mid-'90s and these were no longer in the station's budget to produce and air and were mostly filled in place by more advertisements. Public television stations have replaced interstitials with more bumpers, precaps and promos.

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* Interstitials, usually locally made vignettes of an educational or edutainment were once shown frequently to fill the excess time after shows or movies that end ten to fifteen minutes before the hour (North American shows usually start on the hour or half hour). They were often animated shorts aimed at children, especially during the SaturdayMorningCartoon era (''SchoolhouseRock'' being an example). They also took the form of editorials and other opinion pieces. On public television, along with editorials, they were often educational shorts (such as Jack Horkheimer's long running ''Star Hustler'', Newton's Apple Hustler'' and ''Newton's Apple'' shorts) or Alive artistic in a similar format to ''Alive From Off Center). Center''. These were especially prolific of on {{PBS}} and other public television station due to the lack of commercial advertisements. The biggest reason these died is the way local TV changed in the early to mid-'90s and these were no longer in the station's budget to produce and air and were mostly filled in place by more advertisements. Public television stations have replaced interstitials with more bumpers, precaps and promos.
29th Apr '16 9:48:45 AM avon
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* Interstitials, usually locally made vignettes of an educational nature mostly aimed at children, shown between different shows and time slots, mostly during daytime. The biggest reason these died is the way local TV changed in the early to mid-'90s and these were no longer in the station's budget to produce and air and were mostly filled in place by more advertisements.

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* Interstitials, usually locally made vignettes of an educational nature mostly or edutainment were once shown frequently to fill the excess time after shows or movies that end ten to fifteen minutes before the hour (North American shows usually start on the hour or half hour). They were often animated shorts aimed at children, shown between different shows and time slots, mostly especially during daytime.the SaturdayMorningCartoon era (''SchoolhouseRock'' being an example). They also took the form of editorials and other opinion pieces. On public television, they were often educational shorts (such as Jack Horkheimer's long running ''Star Hustler'', Newton's Apple or Alive From Off Center). These were especially prolific of {{PBS}} and other public television station due to the lack of commercial advertisements. The biggest reason these died is the way local TV changed in the early to mid-'90s and these were no longer in the station's budget to produce and air and were mostly filled in place by more advertisements. Public television stations have replaced interstitials with more bumpers, precaps and promos.
28th Apr '16 10:25:29 PM lizaphile
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Unfortunately, Cosby's reputation was destroyed in late 2014 after [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzB8dTVALQI a recording]] by comedian Hannibal Buress accusing him of rape went viral. Soon after, [[http://gawker.com/cosby-admits-to-calculated-pursuit-of-young-women-in-1718845101 revelations]] poured out (after having been suppressed with hush money since 2000) that he had {{date rape}}d or otherwise sexually harassed a large number of women he'd worked with over the course of his career, many of which involved the use of drugs. America turned on Cosby overnight, with reruns of ''Series/TheCosbyShow'' being immediately blacklisted, honors bearing his name being revoked en masse, and his name and image essentially being erased from pop culture. Nowadays, Cosby is seen as the American Jimmy Savile, a pop culture pariah whose legacy, shows, and image have been [[UnderminedByReality irreparably tainted]]; many people ([[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sq4gVZ4cBc such as]] Amy Schumer) have bemoaned how one of America's best role models had fallen from grace so shamefully.

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Unfortunately, Cosby's reputation was destroyed in late 2014 after [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzB8dTVALQI a recording]] by comedian Hannibal Buress accusing him of rape went viral. Soon after, [[http://gawker.com/cosby-admits-to-calculated-pursuit-of-young-women-in-1718845101 revelations]] poured out (after having been suppressed with hush money since 2000) that he had {{date rape}}d or otherwise sexually harassed a large number of women he'd worked with over the course of his career, many of which involved the use of drugs. America turned on Cosby overnight, with reruns of ''Series/TheCosbyShow'' being immediately blacklisted, honors bearing his name being revoked en masse, and his name and image essentially being erased from pop culture. You can also forget about seeing either ''Picturepages'' or ''WesternAnimation/LittleBill'' anywhere at all outside of the YouTube videos {{Viacom}} hasn't found yet. Nowadays, Cosby is seen as the American Jimmy Savile, a pop culture pariah whose legacy, shows, and image have been [[UnderminedByReality irreparably tainted]]; many people ([[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sq4gVZ4cBc such as]] Amy Schumer) have bemoaned how one of America's best role models had fallen from grace so shamefully.
28th Apr '16 7:20:18 PM lizaphile
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* RealityTV did in the [[PointAndLaughShow trashy tabloid talk shows]] of the '90s, which quickly lost their monopoly on the display of social rejects, miscreants, and degenerates hungry for their 15 minutes of fame. Unlike talk shows, reality shows didn't have the middle man of a host who was ostensibly trying to 'help' them, and had more variety than the basic talk show format. It also didn't help that, around 200304, tabloid talk shows were being accused of recycling the same plots and scenarios over and over again. Today, the only 'Trash TV' hosts still standing are [[Series/TheJerrySpringerShow Jerry Springer]] and [[Series/{{Maury}} Maury Povich]], probably only because their shows are subsidized by the state of Connecticut under a large tax subsidy to Creator/{{NBC}}, and curmudgeonly conservative talker Bill Cunningham, whose show merely exists to fill Creator/TheCW's hour of daytime and is an OldShame to many of their more respected affiliates. Time has also done in the previously worst and most prevalent topic, where UsefulNotes/{{Transgender}} people were often cruelly mocked as either prostitutes or paraded around in the infamous "He or She?" game show-like segments (and referred to in terms that seem downright cruel even with only a decade passing after their prime). Their competitors (Geraldo Rivera, Phil Donahue, Jenny Jones, Ricki Lake, Sally Jessy Raphael, Montel Williams) having all been canceled. Creator/OprahWinfrey, now retired herself, who popularized the 'Trash TV' format, distinguished herself by going "[[BleachedUnderpants upmarket]]" in [[TheNineties the mid-nineties]], during the height of the trend.

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* RealityTV did in the [[PointAndLaughShow trashy tabloid talk shows]] of the '90s, which quickly lost their monopoly on the display of social rejects, miscreants, and degenerates hungry for their 15 minutes of fame. Unlike talk shows, reality shows didn't have the middle man of a host who was ostensibly trying to 'help' them, and had more variety than the basic talk show format. It also didn't help that, around 200304, tabloid talk shows were being accused of recycling the same plots and scenarios over and over again. Today, the only 'Trash TV' hosts still standing are [[Series/TheJerrySpringerShow Jerry Springer]] and [[Series/{{Maury}} Maury Povich]], probably only because their shows are subsidized by the state of Connecticut under a large tax subsidy to Creator/{{NBC}}, and curmudgeonly conservative talker Bill Cunningham, whose show merely exists to fill Creator/TheCW's hour of daytime and is an OldShame to many of their more respected affiliates. Time has also done in the previously worst and most prevalent topic, where UsefulNotes/{{Transgender}} people were often cruelly mocked as either prostitutes or paraded around in the infamous "He or She?" game show-like segments on ''Maury'' (and referred to in terms that seem downright cruel even with only a decade passing after their prime). Their competitors (Geraldo Rivera, Phil Donahue, Jenny Jones, Ricki Lake, Sally Jessy Raphael, Montel Williams) having all been canceled. Creator/OprahWinfrey, now retired herself, who popularized the 'Trash TV' format, distinguished herself by going "[[BleachedUnderpants upmarket]]" in [[TheNineties the mid-nineties]], during the height of the trend.
28th Apr '16 7:19:49 PM lizaphile
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* RealityTV did in the [[PointAndLaughShow trashy tabloid talk shows]] of the '90s, which quickly lost their monopoly on the display of social rejects, miscreants, and degenerates hungry for their 15 minutes of fame. Unlike talk shows, reality shows didn't have the middle man of a host who was ostensibly trying to 'help' them, and had more variety than the basic talk show format. It also didn't help that, around 200304, tabloid talk shows were being accused of recycling the same plots and scenarios over and over again. Today, the only 'Trash TV' hosts still standing are [[Series/TheJerrySpringerShow Jerry Springer]] and [[Series/{{Maury}} Maury Povich]], probably only because their shows are subsidized by the state of Connecticut under a large tax subsidy to Creator/{{NBC}}, and curmudgeonly conservative talker Bill Cunningham, whose show merely exists to fill Creator/TheCW's hour of daytime and is an OldShame to many of their more respected affiliates. Their competitors (Geraldo Rivera, Phil Donahue, Jenny Jones, Ricki Lake, Sally Jessy Raphael, Montel Williams) having all been canceled. Creator/OprahWinfrey, now retired herself, who popularized the 'Trash TV' format, distinguished herself by going "[[BleachedUnderpants upmarket]]" in [[TheNineties the mid-nineties]], during the height of the trend.

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* RealityTV did in the [[PointAndLaughShow trashy tabloid talk shows]] of the '90s, which quickly lost their monopoly on the display of social rejects, miscreants, and degenerates hungry for their 15 minutes of fame. Unlike talk shows, reality shows didn't have the middle man of a host who was ostensibly trying to 'help' them, and had more variety than the basic talk show format. It also didn't help that, around 200304, tabloid talk shows were being accused of recycling the same plots and scenarios over and over again. Today, the only 'Trash TV' hosts still standing are [[Series/TheJerrySpringerShow Jerry Springer]] and [[Series/{{Maury}} Maury Povich]], probably only because their shows are subsidized by the state of Connecticut under a large tax subsidy to Creator/{{NBC}}, and curmudgeonly conservative talker Bill Cunningham, whose show merely exists to fill Creator/TheCW's hour of daytime and is an OldShame to many of their more respected affiliates. Time has also done in the previously worst and most prevalent topic, where UsefulNotes/{{Transgender}} people were often cruelly mocked as either prostitutes or paraded around in the infamous "He or She?" game show-like segments (and referred to in terms that seem downright cruel even with only a decade passing after their prime). Their competitors (Geraldo Rivera, Phil Donahue, Jenny Jones, Ricki Lake, Sally Jessy Raphael, Montel Williams) having all been canceled. Creator/OprahWinfrey, now retired herself, who popularized the 'Trash TV' format, distinguished herself by going "[[BleachedUnderpants upmarket]]" in [[TheNineties the mid-nineties]], during the height of the trend.
26th Apr '16 11:24:35 AM LaptopGuy
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!!Creator/{{Netflix}}
* ''Series/OrangeIsTheNewBlack'' looks to be heading in this direction. When it came out, it boosted Nteflix's reputation, popularized binge-watching and won multiple awards. To say you couldn't escape it in it's prime is an understatement. However, as the show went on towards the third season, it's popularity has declined, with many citing the series began [[Main/BestKnownForTheFanservice over-relying on fan-service]], [[Main/WereStillRelevantDammit began referencing pop culture trends and events more then once]] (which ironically is what killed many of the shows on this list), [[Main/{{Anvilicious}} becoming too on-the-nose about it's politics]] and introducing [[Main/RomanticPlotTumor a love triangle with it's lead]].

** In fact, ScreenRant in their review for one if the later seasons dubbed it "Prison Fanfiction". Others weren't far behind. Also, Netflix has introduced new shows like ''Series/Daredevil2015'', ''Series/JessicaJones'' and ''Series/UnbreakableKimmySchmidt'' which were bigger critical and commercial successes. Netflix's rival Amazon Studios recently also got an unexpected boost when ''Series/MozartInTheJungle'' won two Golden Globes for Best Actor in a Comedy Series and Best Comedy Series. And with shows like ''Series/MrRobot'' and ''Series/{{Vinyl}}'', people are once again watching television in spades. The final nail in the coffin is that since late-2014, the show's rating has dropped to ''two stars'' and hasn't climbed since. [[Main/NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer No really]]. In a way, [[Main/DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything it's decline is eerily similar]] [[Series/{{Weeds}} to the creator's last show]]. Nowadays, while it still wins awards, it's glory days seem to be going fast. [[Main/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement And that's all we'll say on the matter]].
26th Apr '16 10:13:53 AM jabberwocky1996
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** In fact, ScreenRant in their review for one if the later seasons dubbed it "Prison Fanfiction". Others weren't far behind. Also, Netflix has introduced new shows like ''Series/Daredevil2015'', ''Series/JessicaJones'' and ''Series/UnbreakableKimmySchmidt'' which were bigger critical and commercial successes. Netflix's rival Amazon Studios recently also got an unexpected boost when ''Series/MozartInTheJungle'' won two Golden Globes for Best Actor in a Comedy Series and Best Comedy Series. And with shows like ''Series/MrRobot'' and ''Series/{{Vinyl}}'', people are once again watching television in spades. The final nail in the coffin is that since late-2014, the show's rating has dropped to ''two stars'' and hasn't climbed since. [[Main/NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer No really]]. In a way, [[Main/DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything it's decline is eerily similar]] [[Series/{{Weeds}} to the creator's last show]]. Nowadays, while it still wins awards, it's glory days seem to be going fast.

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** In fact, ScreenRant in their review for one if the later seasons dubbed it "Prison Fanfiction". Others weren't far behind. Also, Netflix has introduced new shows like ''Series/Daredevil2015'', ''Series/JessicaJones'' and ''Series/UnbreakableKimmySchmidt'' which were bigger critical and commercial successes. Netflix's rival Amazon Studios recently also got an unexpected boost when ''Series/MozartInTheJungle'' won two Golden Globes for Best Actor in a Comedy Series and Best Comedy Series. And with shows like ''Series/MrRobot'' and ''Series/{{Vinyl}}'', people are once again watching television in spades. The final nail in the coffin is that since late-2014, the show's rating has dropped to ''two stars'' and hasn't climbed since. [[Main/NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer No really]]. In a way, [[Main/DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything it's decline is eerily similar]] [[Series/{{Weeds}} to the creator's last show]]. Nowadays, while it still wins awards, it's glory days seem to be going fast.
fast. [[Main/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement And that's all we'll say on the matter]].



* ''Series/{{Weeds}}'' was not a smash hit but it was a respectable success for Showtime and adored by critics. Not long after it ended, it was completely cast into the shadow of both [[Series/BreakingBad another comedy-drama about a parent going into the drug-selling business to support their family]] and [[Series/OrangeIsTheNewBlack creator Jenji Kohan's next original series]], both of which became mainstream cultural phenomena.

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* ''Series/{{Weeds}}'' was not a smash hit but it was a respectable success for Showtime and adored by critics. Not long after it ended, it was completely cast into the shadow of both [[Series/BreakingBad another comedy-drama about a parent going into the drug-selling business to support their family]] and [[Series/OrangeIsTheNewBlack creator Jenji Kohan's next original series]], both of which became mainstream cultural phenomena.
phenomena, though with the latter it seems to be heading the same direction as shown above.
26th Apr '16 10:10:54 AM jabberwocky1996
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** Nowadays, while it still wins awards, it's glory days seem to be going fast. ScreenRant in their review for one if the later seasons dubbed it "Prison Fanfiction". Others weren't far behind. Also, Netflix has introduced new shows like ''Series/Daredevil2015'', ''Series/JessicaJones'' and ''Series/UnbreakableKimmySchmidt'' which were bigger critical and commercial successes. Netflix's rival Amazon Studios recently also got an unexpected boost when ''Series/MozartInTheJungle'' won two Golden Globes for Best Actor in a Comedy Series and Best Comedy Series. And with shows like ''Series/MrRobot'' and ''Series/{{Vinyl}}'', people are once again watching television in spades.

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** Nowadays, while it still wins awards, it's glory days seem to be going fast. In fact, ScreenRant in their review for one if the later seasons dubbed it "Prison Fanfiction". Others weren't far behind. Also, Netflix has introduced new shows like ''Series/Daredevil2015'', ''Series/JessicaJones'' and ''Series/UnbreakableKimmySchmidt'' which were bigger critical and commercial successes. Netflix's rival Amazon Studios recently also got an unexpected boost when ''Series/MozartInTheJungle'' won two Golden Globes for Best Actor in a Comedy Series and Best Comedy Series. And with shows like ''Series/MrRobot'' and ''Series/{{Vinyl}}'', people are once again watching television in spades. \n The final nail in the coffin is that since late-2014, the show's rating has dropped to ''two stars'' and hasn't climbed since. [[Main/NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer No really]]. In a way, [[Main/DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything it's decline is eerily similar]] [[Series/{{Weeds}} to the creator's last show]]. Nowadays, while it still wins awards, it's glory days seem to be going fast.
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