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29th Jul '16 3:33:42 PM lledsmar
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Pulling the plug isn't easy on these once acclaimed and/or successful shows



Pulling the plug isn't easy on these once acclaimed and/or successful shows
29th Jul '16 3:32:20 PM lledsmar
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Pulling the plug isn't easy on these once acclaimed and/or successful shows
29th Jul '16 3:15:29 PM Anddrix
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However, the series [[SeasonalRot started to lose steam near the end of its run]], thanks to SeasonalRot and the ArcFatigue that resulted from it taking nearly a decade to find out how Ted met the titular character but it still had a large fandom. Then came the much [[EsotericHappyEnding maligned]] [[EndingAversion series]] [[CharacterDerailment finale]]. The show quickly went from an example of a smart StoryArc and TheProducerThinksofEverything to an example of “How not to plan an ending way ahead while you’re still developing the story and the characters”. Now many people find rewatching the show after seeing the finale very hard to do because everything that the characters did (particularly Ted, Robin and Barney) is now a ShootTheShaggyDog case. Because of the show's popularity plummeting, a gender-flipped spinoff never got picked by CBS or any other networks and Craig Thomas and Carter Bays have a huge dent in their careers.

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However, the series [[SeasonalRot started to lose steam near the end of its run]], thanks to SeasonalRot and the ArcFatigue that resulted from it taking nearly a decade to find out how Ted met the titular character but it still had a large fandom. Then came the much [[EsotericHappyEnding maligned]] [[EndingAversion series]] [[CharacterDerailment finale]].finale. The show quickly went from an example of a smart StoryArc and TheProducerThinksofEverything to an example of “How not to plan an ending way ahead while you’re still developing the story and the characters”. Now many people find rewatching the show after seeing the finale very hard to do because everything that the characters did (particularly Ted, Robin and Barney) is now a ShootTheShaggyDog case. Because of the show's popularity plummeting, a gender-flipped spinoff never got picked by CBS or any other networks and Craig Thomas and Carter Bays have a huge dent in their careers.
29th Jul '16 3:11:47 PM LaptopGuy
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However, the series [[SeasonalRot started to lose steam near the end of its run]].

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However, the series [[SeasonalRot started to lose steam near the end of its run]].run]], thanks to SeasonalRot and the ArcFatigue that resulted from it taking nearly a decade to find out how Ted met the titular character but it still had a large fandom. Then came the much [[EsotericHappyEnding maligned]] [[EndingAversion series]] [[CharacterDerailment finale]]. The show quickly went from an example of a smart StoryArc and TheProducerThinksofEverything to an example of “How not to plan an ending way ahead while you’re still developing the story and the characters”. Now many people find rewatching the show after seeing the finale very hard to do because everything that the characters did (particularly Ted, Robin and Barney) is now a ShootTheShaggyDog case. Because of the show's popularity plummeting, a gender-flipped spinoff never got picked by CBS or any other networks and Craig Thomas and Carter Bays have a huge dent in their careers.
29th Jul '16 9:51:26 AM BigBertha
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%%* The rom-com ''Series/HowIMetYourMother'' premiered in 2005 to great acclaim from critics and general audiences alike, contributing to pop culture (such as the Bro Code) and bringing Creator/NeilPatrickHarris [[CareerResurrection back into the spotlight]] for the first time since ''Series/DoogieHowserMD''.\\\
However, the series [[SeasonalRot started to lose steam near the end of its run]].
23rd Jul '16 11:13:45 PM TMC6882
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* During its network run, ''Series/MurphyBrown'' was one of the most talked about, critically acclaimed shows on the air. Today, its only syndicated presence is on an Encore pay channel which requires a premium channel price to watch, and first season DVD sales were so poor that the second season was never even released. [[UnintentionalPeriodPiece The show's reliance on topical humor is almost certainly a factor; jokes about Dan Quayle aren't nearly as funny 20 years later.]] It definitely doesn't help that its [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome defining moment]], Murphy's pregnancy and the subsequent feud with Dan Quayle, not only happened relatively early (the show ran for another six seasons after that), but has aged poorly -- it seems [[ValuesDissonance quaint by today's standards]] for Dan Quayle to have [[MoralGuardians made such a big deal]] about a single mother on television. From ''Website/TheOnion'': "[[http://www.theonion.com/articles/nations-weirdest-teenager-buys-season-one-dvd-of-m,21004/ Nation's Weirdest Teenager Buys Season One DVD Of 'Murphy Brown']]" And years later, [[http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,319786,00.html Candice Bergen (Murphy) would admit Dan Quayle]] had a point after all. ''Series/ThirtyRock'' liked to evoke ''Murphy Brown'' as Liz's feminist ideal for how she thinks the world should work -- hence the episode, "Murphy Brown Lied to Us".

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* During its network run, ''Series/MurphyBrown'' was one of the most talked about, critically acclaimed shows on the air. Today, its only syndicated presence is on an Encore pay channel which requires a premium channel price to watch, and first season DVD sales were so poor that the second season was never even released. [[UnintentionalPeriodPiece The show's reliance on topical humor is almost certainly a factor; jokes about Dan Quayle aren't nearly as funny 20 years later.]] It definitely doesn't help that its [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome defining moment]], Murphy's pregnancy and the subsequent feud with Dan Quayle, not only happened relatively early (the show ran for another six seasons after that), but has aged poorly -- it seems [[ValuesDissonance quaint by today's standards]] for Dan Quayle to have [[MoralGuardians made such a big deal]] about a single mother on television. From ''Website/TheOnion'': "[[http://www.theonion.com/articles/nations-weirdest-teenager-buys-season-one-dvd-of-m,21004/ Nation's Weirdest Teenager Buys Season One DVD Of 'Murphy Brown']]" And years later, [[http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,319786,00.html Candice Bergen (Murphy) would admit Dan Quayle]] had a point after all. ''Murphy Brown'' might go the extra mile of being an '''intentional''' period piece, as the newsroom setting almost guaranteed that a large chunk of the show's material would be ruthlessly topical about politics and entertainment. This has been to the show's detriment; with a large chunk of the show's material falling flat without context. It also suffered by being seemingly aimed only at Baby Boomers; not only is the series drenched in protest-era nostalgia, the token senior anchor is treated as an old fuddy-duddy, and the sole Generation Xer in the cast is a complete moron. ''Series/ThirtyRock'' liked to evoke ''Murphy Brown'' as Liz's feminist ideal for how she thinks the world should work -- hence the episode, "Murphy Brown Lied to Us".
22nd Jul '16 10:35:41 PM LaptopGuy
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* ''Series/HowIMetYourMother'' was one of the most popular romantic-comedy TV shows in 2000’s with both critics and viewers and contributed a lot to pop culture (such as the Bro Code). The show lost some steam thanks to SeasonalRot and the ArcFatigue that resulted from it taking nearly a decade to find out how Ted met the titular character but it still had a large fandom. Then came the much [[EsotericHappyEnding maligned]] [[EndingAversion series]] [[CharacterDerailment finale]]. The show quickly went from an example of a smart StoryArc and TheProducerThinksofEverything to an example of “How not to plan an ending way ahead while you’re still developing the story and the characters”. Now many people find rewatching the show after seeing the finale very hard to do because everything that the characters did (particularly Ted, Robin and Barney) is now a ShootTheShaggyDog case. Because of the show's popularity plummeting, a gender-flipped spinoff never got picked by CBS or any other networks and Craig Thomas and Carter Bays have a huge dent in their careers.

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* ''Series/HowIMetYourMother'' was one of the most popular romantic-comedy TV shows in 2000’s with both critics and viewers and contributed a lot to pop culture (such as the Bro Code). The show lost some steam thanks to SeasonalRot and the ArcFatigue that resulted from it taking nearly a decade to find out how Ted met the titular character but it still had a large fandom. Then came the much [[EsotericHappyEnding maligned]] [[EndingAversion series]] [[CharacterDerailment finale]]. The show quickly went from an example of a smart StoryArc and TheProducerThinksofEverything to an example of “How not to plan an ending way ahead while you’re still developing the story and the characters”. Now many people find rewatching the show after seeing the finale very hard to do because everything that the characters did (particularly Ted, Robin and Barney) is now a ShootTheShaggyDog case. Because of the show's popularity plummeting, a gender-flipped spinoff never got picked by CBS or any other networks and Craig Thomas and Carter Bays have a huge dent in their careers.
22nd Jul '16 8:23:30 PM kquinn0830
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* ''Series/HowIMetYourMother'' was one of the most popular romantic-comedy TV shows in 2000’s with both critics and viewers and contributed a lot to pop culture (such as the Bro Code). The show lost some steam thanks to SeasonalRot and the ArcFatigue that resulted from it taking nearly a decade to find out how Ted met the titular character but it still had a large fandom. Then came the much [[EsotericHappyEnding maligned]] [[EndingAversion series]] [[CharacterDerailment finale]]. The show quickly went from an example of a smart StoryArc and TheProducerThinksofEverything to an example of “How not to plan an ending way ahead while you’re still developing the story and the characters”. Now many people find rewatching the show after seeing the finale very hard to do because everything that the characters did (particularly Ted, Robin and Barney) is now a ShootTheShaggyDog case. Because of the show's popularity plummeting, a gender-flipped spinoff never got picked by CBS or any other networks and Craig Thomas and Carter Bays have a huge dent in their careers.
22nd Jul '16 5:32:36 AM Anddrix
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With its growing exposure, the writers attempted to duplicate what was garnering all the praise, [[HypeBacklash at the expense of what made it well-liked in the first place]]. Latter seasons saw more emphasis on [[ShipTease ship teasing]], [[{{Anvilicious}} heavy-handed]] LGBT aesops, and tribute episodes to popular musicians. Problems that were [[FranchiseOriginalSin noticeable, but bearable, in the second season]] grew like a cancer -- characters frequently [[DependingOnTheWriter changed motivations, personalities, and relationships]], plots came out of nowhere and began to [[KudzuPlot pile up too high for the show to handle]], any pretense of realism had disappeared, episodes featured [[WereStillRelevantDammit flash-in-the-pan musical trends]], and the show became the preachy AfterSchoolSpecial it used to mock. The graduation of most of the core cast after Season Three, leading to a storyline split between Lima (now largely populated by new characters [[SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute suspiciously like the old ones]]) and New York City, became a huge BaseBreaker among the show's fanbase. \\\

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With its growing exposure, the writers attempted to duplicate what was garnering all the praise, [[HypeBacklash at the expense of what made it well-liked in the first place]]. Latter seasons saw more emphasis on [[ShipTease ship teasing]], [[{{Anvilicious}} heavy-handed]] LGBT aesops, and tribute episodes to popular musicians. Problems that were [[FranchiseOriginalSin noticeable, but bearable, in the second season]] grew like a cancer -- characters frequently [[DependingOnTheWriter changed motivations, personalities, and relationships]], plots came out of nowhere and began to [[KudzuPlot pile up too high for the show to handle]], any pretense of realism had disappeared, episodes featured [[WereStillRelevantDammit flash-in-the-pan musical trends]], and the show became the preachy AfterSchoolSpecial it used to mock. The graduation of most of the core cast after Season Three, leading to a storyline split between Lima (now largely populated by new characters [[SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute suspiciously like the old ones]]) and New York City, became a huge BaseBreaker divisive among the show's fanbase. \\\
22nd Jul '16 5:20:06 AM lledsmar
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* While it wasn't seen as trend-setting or innovative of a cop show as ''Series/MiamiVice'', ''Series/NashBridges'', none the less, gave Don Johnson another successful starring vehicle. It ran on CBS for six seasons (from 1996-2001) for a total of 122 episodes. It in hindsight, arguably gave Johnson one long, last hurrah as an action hero. As a matter of fact, although ''Nash Bridges'' is rarely cited as one of the best shows of its era, it left a surprising legacy in terms of the TV writers (i.e. Carlton Cuse, Shawn Ryan, Glen Mazzara, and Jed Seidel, who would later work on ''Series/{{Lost}}'', ''Series/TheShield'', ''Series/TheWalkingDead'',''Series/GilmoreGirls'' and ''Series/VeronicaMars'' respectively) who cut their teeth breaking stories and writing dialogue for Don Johnson. Despite still getting fair ratings in its sixth and ultimately last season, ''Nash Bridges'' was canceled because of rising production cost (which was about $2 million per episode) and Don Johnson (who was also one of the producers) simply being ready to move on. To date, only the first three seasons has officially been released on DVD. As of September 2014, these releases have been discontinued and are now out of print. ''Nash Briges'' in hindsight, was arguably a victim of bad timing. When it debuted in 1996, CBS was hungry for hits, but not so hungry that it ventured far beyond its reputation for family-friendly heartwarmers and cozy crime stories, both aimed at older audiences. Pre-''Series/{{CSI}}'' (which debuted around the same time as ''Nash Bridges'' entered its final season), CBS loaded up on shows like ''Series/DiagnosisMurder'' and ''Series/WalkerTexasRanger'', which emphasized colorful characters and uncomplicated plots.

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* While it wasn't seen as trend-setting or innovative of a cop show as ''Series/MiamiVice'', ''Series/NashBridges'', none the less, gave Don Johnson another successful starring vehicle. It ran on CBS for six seasons (from 1996-2001) for a total of 122 episodes. It in hindsight, arguably gave Johnson one long, last hurrah as an action hero. As a matter of fact, although ''Nash Bridges'' is rarely cited as one of the best shows of its era, it left a surprising legacy in terms of the TV writers (i.e. Carlton Cuse, Shawn Ryan, Glen Mazzara, and Jed Seidel, who would later work on ''Series/{{Lost}}'', ''Series/TheShield'', ''Series/TheWalkingDead'',''Series/GilmoreGirls'' ''Series/TheWalkingDead'', ''Series/GilmoreGirls'' and ''Series/VeronicaMars'' respectively) who cut their teeth breaking stories and writing dialogue for Don Johnson. Despite still getting fair ratings in its sixth and ultimately last season, ''Nash Bridges'' was canceled because of rising production cost (which was about $2 million per episode) and Don Johnson (who was also one of the producers) simply being ready to move on. To date, only the first three seasons has officially been released on DVD. As of September 2014, these releases have been discontinued and are now out of print. ''Nash Briges'' in hindsight, was arguably a victim of bad timing. When it debuted in 1996, CBS was hungry for hits, but not so hungry that it ventured far beyond its reputation for family-friendly heartwarmers and cozy crime stories, both aimed at older audiences. Pre-''Series/{{CSI}}'' (which debuted around the same time as ''Nash Bridges'' entered its final season), CBS loaded up on shows like ''Series/DiagnosisMurder'' and ''Series/WalkerTexasRanger'', which emphasized colorful characters and uncomplicated plots.
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