History DeaderThanDisco / LiveActionTV

1st Feb '16 11:52:59 AM FromtheWordsofBR
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* ''Series/BarneyAndFriends'' was a gigantic phenomenon across TheNineties among young children worldwide, but it quickly built what is possibly the biggest PeripheryHatedom among most older children and adults. However, the series lost its steam during the TurnOfTheMillennium due to the creation and popularity of other preschool cartoons and series made by, among others, Nickelodeon and Disney Channel, as well as SeasonalRot marked by the addition of a new character (Riff) and it was put on an indefinite hiatus at the end of the decade without any fanfare or any signs of it coming back into production. Most PBS stations and other channels worldwide no longer air the series, and many younger children nowadays probably aren't even aware of its existence. As of 2015, the series is barely a footnote in launching the careers of Music/DemiLovato and Music/SelenaGomez (and a bunch of other lesser-known stars like Kyla Pratt and Madison Pettis), and if ''Barney'' or the song "I Love You" is brought up today, [[SnarkBait it's begging to be made fun of]]. That said, the series is set to be relaunched in 2017, however, it remains to be seen if it can repeat the success it had during the 90s.
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* ''Series/BarneyAndFriends'' was a gigantic phenomenon across TheNineties among young children worldwide, but it quickly built what is possibly the biggest PeripheryHatedom among most older children and adults. However, the series lost its steam during the TurnOfTheMillennium due to the creation and popularity of other preschool cartoons and series made by, among others, Nickelodeon and Disney Channel, as well as SeasonalRot marked by the addition of a new character (Riff) and it was put on an indefinite hiatus at the end of the decade without any fanfare or any signs of it coming back into production. Most PBS stations and other channels worldwide no longer air the series, and many younger children nowadays probably aren't even aware of its existence. As of 2015, the series is barely a footnote in launching the careers of Music/DemiLovato Music/DemiLovato, [[WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse Michaela Dietz]] and Music/SelenaGomez (and a bunch of other lesser-known stars like Kyla Pratt and Madison Pettis), and if ''Barney'' or the song "I Love You" is brought up today, [[SnarkBait it's begging to be made fun of]]. That said, the series is set to be relaunched in 2017, however, it remains to be seen if it can repeat the success it had during the 90s.
29th Jan '16 8:33:42 PM themisterfree
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** Cable game shows pretty much died off in the wake of the big-money move of the early 2000s, as the cable shows didn't have the flash or prize budget of the ''Millionaire'' types. GSN made many a valiant effort in the 2000s, but other than ''Series/{{Lingo}}'' (200207, plus a short-lived revival in 2011), none of them stuck. However, Creator/TheHub has found relative success in this field with ''Series/FamilyGameNight''.
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** Cable game shows pretty much died off in the wake of the big-money move of the early 2000s, as the cable shows didn't have the flash or prize budget of the ''Millionaire'' types. GSN made many a valiant effort in the 2000s, but other than ''Series/{{Lingo}}'' (200207, plus a short-lived revival in 2011), none of them stuck. However, Creator/TheHub has found relative success in this field with ''Series/FamilyGameNight''.''Series/FamilyGameNight'' and afew other shows, but that stopped once the network became Discovery Family.
29th Jan '16 7:01:56 PM GrammarNavi
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** Another factor that likely helped do in reality TV is the fact that, as [[Film/{{Ghostbusters}} Bernie]] [[Series/TheSopranos Brillstein]] once put it, "You can't syndicate this shit." While they can get big ratings for low cost in the short term, they have almost no profitability in the long term. Since there's no real reason to watch most of these shows again after you know who the winner is, the ability to generate profit from [=DVDs=] or {{syndication}} reruns (which people in the industry know is where the ''real'' money is) simply isn't there, and it's taking a spot from a scripted show that could have more long-term profitability.
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** Another factor that likely helped do in reality TV is the fact that, as [[Film/{{Ghostbusters}} Bernie]] [[Series/TheSopranos Brillstein]] once put it, "You can't syndicate this shit." While they can get big ratings for low cost in the short term, they have almost no profitability in the long term. Since there's no real reason to watch most of these shows again after you know who the winner is, the ability to generate profit from [=DVDs=] or {{syndication}} UsefulNotes/{{syndication}} reruns (which people in the industry know is where the ''real'' money is) simply isn't there, and it's taking a spot from a scripted show that could have more long-term profitability.

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It was announced in 2015 that the show would end after its 15th season, and thanks to the notoriously short shelf life of reality TV in general, it's not likely to have any legs in {{syndication}}. Even worse, some more of the recent winners like Nick Fradiani and Caleb Johnson have already fallen into obscurity, with their coronation songs and/or resulting albums flopping hard. As such, it was a massive surprise when Phillip Phillips, winner of the poorly-rated 12th season, snagged a hit album and the highest-selling coronation song in the series' history (carrying a folksy sound instead of being a normal power ballad certainly helped). While dozens of former contestants have gone on to achieve varying levels of success, ''American Idol''[='=]s cultural impact as a television show is pretty much over, and nowadays, it's viewed as a symbol of all the worst elements of the reality TV boom in the '00s.
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It was announced in 2015 that the show would end after its 15th season, and thanks to the notoriously short shelf life of reality TV in general, it's not likely to have any legs in {{syndication}}.UsefulNotes/{{syndication}}. Even worse, some more of the recent winners like Nick Fradiani and Caleb Johnson have already fallen into obscurity, with their coronation songs and/or resulting albums flopping hard. As such, it was a massive surprise when Phillip Phillips, winner of the poorly-rated 12th season, snagged a hit album and the highest-selling coronation song in the series' history (carrying a folksy sound instead of being a normal power ballad certainly helped). While dozens of former contestants have gone on to achieve varying levels of success, ''American Idol''[='=]s cultural impact as a television show is pretty much over, and nowadays, it's viewed as a symbol of all the worst elements of the reality TV boom in the '00s.
29th Jan '16 4:51:13 PM TheRedRedKroovy
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Unfortunately, Cosby's reputation was destroyed in late 2014 after [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzB8dTVALQI a recording]] by comedian Hannibal Buress accusing him of rape went viral. Soon after, [[http://gawker.com/cosby-admits-to-calculated-pursuit-of-young-women-in-1718845101 revelations]] poured out (after having been suppressed with hush money for over a decade) that he had {{date rape}}d or otherwise sexually harassed a large number of women he'd worked with over the course of his career, many of which involved the use of drugs. America turned on Cosby overnight, with reruns of ''Series/TheCosbyShow'' being immediately blacklisted, honors bearing his name being revoked en masse, and his name and image essentially being erased from pop culture. Nowadays, Cosby is seen as the American Jimmy Savile, a pop culture pariah whose legacy, shows, and image have been [[UnderminedByReality irreparably tainted]], as [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sq4gVZ4cBc bemoaned]] by Amy Schumer.
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Unfortunately, Cosby's reputation was destroyed in late 2014 after [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzB8dTVALQI a recording]] by comedian Hannibal Buress accusing him of rape went viral. Soon after, [[http://gawker.com/cosby-admits-to-calculated-pursuit-of-young-women-in-1718845101 revelations]] poured out (after having been suppressed with hush money for over a decade) since 2000) that he had {{date rape}}d or otherwise sexually harassed a large number of women he'd worked with over the course of his career, many of which involved the use of drugs. America turned on Cosby overnight, with reruns of ''Series/TheCosbyShow'' being immediately blacklisted, honors bearing his name being revoked en masse, and his name and image essentially being erased from pop culture. Nowadays, Cosby is seen as the American Jimmy Savile, a pop culture pariah whose legacy, shows, and image have been [[UnderminedByReality irreparably tainted]], as [[https://www.tainted]]; many people ([[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sq4gVZ4cBc bemoaned]] by such as]] Amy Schumer.Schumer) have bemoaned how one of America's best role models had fallen from grace so shamefully.
29th Jan '16 4:44:06 PM TheRedRedKroovy
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* Comedian Creator/BillCosby, for much of his life, was seen as a TV hero. For starters, he was viewed as "America's Dad" thanks to his family-friendly sitcoms and comedy specials, as well as his outside charity work. But more importantly, he was the first African American television star to successfully depict a middle-class black family free from [[MinorityShowGhetto the racial stereotypes and wackiness of so many prior African American shows]], and he became known just as much for his activism in the black community as he was for his work in television.\\\ Unfortunately, Cosby's reputation was destroyed in late 2014 after a recording by comedian Hannibal Buress accusing him of rape went viral. Soon after, [[http://gawker.com/cosby-admits-to-calculated-pursuit-of-young-women-in-1718845101 revelations]] poured out (after having been suppressed with hush money for over a decade) that he had {{date rape}}d or otherwise sexually harassed a large number of women he'd worked with over the course of his career, many of which involved the use of drugs. America turned on Cosby overnight, with reruns of ''Series/TheCosbyShow'' being immediately blacklisted, honors bearing his name being revoked en masse, and his name and image essentially being erased from pop culture. Nowadays, Cosby is seen as the American Jimmy Savile, a pop culture pariah whose legacy, shows, and image have been [[UnderminedByReality irreparably tainted]], as [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sq4gVZ4cBc bemoaned]] by Amy Schumer.
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* Comedian Creator/BillCosby, for much of his life, was seen as a TV hero. one of the most legendary and beloved figures in American television. For starters, he was viewed enjoyed a reputation as "America's Dad" thanks to his family-friendly sitcoms and comedy specials, as well as his outside charity work. But more importantly, he was the first African American television star to successfully depict a middle-class black family free from [[MinorityShowGhetto the racial stereotypes and wackiness of so many prior African American shows]], and he became known just as much for his activism in the black community and [[MoralGuardians his criticism]] of violence in the media (especially in HipHop) as he was for his work in television.\\\ Unfortunately, Cosby's reputation was destroyed in late 2014 after [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzB8dTVALQI a recording recording]] by comedian Hannibal Buress accusing him of rape went viral. Soon after, [[http://gawker.com/cosby-admits-to-calculated-pursuit-of-young-women-in-1718845101 revelations]] poured out (after having been suppressed with hush money for over a decade) that he had {{date rape}}d or otherwise sexually harassed a large number of women he'd worked with over the course of his career, many of which involved the use of drugs. America turned on Cosby overnight, with reruns of ''Series/TheCosbyShow'' being immediately blacklisted, honors bearing his name being revoked en masse, and his name and image essentially being erased from pop culture. Nowadays, Cosby is seen as the American Jimmy Savile, a pop culture pariah whose legacy, shows, and image have been [[UnderminedByReality irreparably tainted]], as [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sq4gVZ4cBc bemoaned]] by Amy Schumer.
21st Jan '16 5:27:19 PM TheFuzzinator
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Even though the series named the Chris Carter Effect, it doesn't fit the trope itself: even with the derided later seasons, it remained popular in syndication and on netflix, and hasn't really been presented in real life media or in fiction as something someone should be ashamed to have watched. As mentioned in the discussion page, both page and the film entry really need cleaning up, as a number of examples shouldn't actually be here. There's a difference between something falling into obscurity and something that, like disco, later comes to be actively reviled.
* There's a reason why ''Series/TheXFiles'' is the {{Trope Namer|s}} for TheChrisCarterEffect. The memory of its excellent early years was badly sullied not long after [[Film/TheXFilesFightTheFuture the movie]] came out, its ill-received final three seasons leading up to an embarrassing and frustrating case of NoEnding that, to many fans, showed that the writers had no clue what they were doing and were making things up as they went along. What die hard fans were left had their interest killed by a [[SoOkayItsAverage ho-hum]] [[Film/TheXFilesIWantToBelieve movie]] released in 2008. While the show's legacy can [[NoughtiesDramaSeries still be readily seen]], and there remained enough fans to get it a continuation in the form of [[ComicBook/TheXFilesSeason10 a "season 10" comic book]] and an upcoming [[PostscriptSeason revival]] in 2016, the most celebrated episodes nowadays are the stand-alone MonsterOfTheWeek episodes, whereas the MythArc, which had once been among the chief draws, is now viewed as where the show fell apart. ** However, the announcement of a six-installment miniseries, to be aired in January 2016, proved that there are still a lot of fans to be found in the woodwork (the day it was announced, [=#TheXFiles=] and [=#XFilesRevival=] became some of the top trending hashtags on Twitter). The early seasons also consistently draw new fans, most of whom were too young to watch the show during its run; blogging sites like Tumblr have many, who write "fresh" reviews and hold livebloggings.
21st Jan '16 2:03:08 PM Larkmarn
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Pulling to discussion.
* ''Series/TheDukesOfHazzard'' seems to have fallen victim to this trope. It was still popular and well liked even after it ended in the '80s but after a massive backlash over the Confederate flag in TheNewTens (as described in the [[DeaderThanDisco/RealLife Real Life section]]), the show - which heavily relied on themes of Southern pride - began to fade from public consciousness with reruns and merchandise being blacklisted.
21st Jan '16 2:02:42 PM Larkmarn
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"Almost forgotten" is quite different from Deader Than Disco, especially since the show was never popular in the first place. There certainly doesn't seem to be any backlash or anything, it's just... faded away as short-lived series that were never that popular tend to do.
* ''Series/DontTrustTheBInApartment23'' is almost completely forgotten today, despite it being fairly popular at its time. Even the star of the show, Creator/KrystenRitter, is today much more associated with ''Series/BreakingBad'' (in which she had only a minor part) than ''Don't Trust the B----.''
21st Jan '16 10:25:44 AM hydrix
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* School television was introduced in Belgium in 1962. The idea was to allow for schools to give educational documentaries as so to educate people in Basic and Middle schools. It was popular among the target audience until the rise of the VHS in the 1980's, as the VHS allowed to show the same type of educational content at any time you wanted and because you did not have to juggle in the administration to be able to show a certain educational video to the students.
20th Jan '16 10:34:33 PM Cindylover1969
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NBC [[http://popwatch.ew.com/2014/02/24/heroes-reborn-analysis/ relaunched the series]] in 2015 with a 13-episode MiniSeries called ''HeroesReborn'', but it proved to be more like ''Heroes Stillborn'' and it won't be coming back.
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NBC [[http://popwatch.ew.com/2014/02/24/heroes-reborn-analysis/ relaunched the series]] in 2015 with a 13-episode MiniSeries called ''HeroesReborn'', ''Series/HeroesReborn'', but for a variety of reasons it proved didn't succeed, proving to be more like ''Heroes Stillborn'' and it won't be coming back.Stillborn''.
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