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5th Dec '16 12:38:33 PM twilicorn
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* During its network run, ''Series/MurphyBrown'' was one of the most talked about, critically acclaimed shows on the air. Today, its only syndicated presence is on an Encore pay channel which requires a premium channel price to watch, and first season DVD sales were so poor that the second season was never even released. [[UnintentionalPeriodPiece The show's reliance on topical humor is almost certainly a factor; jokes about Dan Quayle aren't nearly as funny 20 years later.]] It definitely doesn't help that its [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome defining moment]], Murphy's pregnancy and the subsequent feud with Dan Quayle, not only happened relatively early (the show ran for another six seasons after that), but has aged poorly -- it seems [[ValuesDissonance quaint by today's standards]] for Dan Quayle to have [[MoralGuardians made such a big deal]] about a single mother on television. From ''Website/TheOnion'': "[[http://www.theonion.com/articles/nations-weirdest-teenager-buys-season-one-dvd-of-m,21004/ Nation's Weirdest Teenager Buys Season One DVD Of 'Murphy Brown']]"

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* During its network run, ''Series/MurphyBrown'' was one of the most talked about, critically acclaimed shows on the air. Today, its only syndicated presence is on an Encore pay channel which requires a premium channel price to watch, and first season DVD sales were so poor that the second season was never even released. [[UnintentionalPeriodPiece The show's reliance on topical humor is almost certainly a factor; jokes about Dan Quayle aren't nearly as funny 20 years later.]] It definitely doesn't help that its [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome defining moment]], Murphy's pregnancy and the subsequent feud with Dan Quayle, Quayle himself, not only happened relatively early (the show ran for another six seasons after that), but has aged poorly -- it seems [[ValuesDissonance quaint by today's standards]] for Dan Quayle to have [[MoralGuardians made such a big deal]] about a single mother on television. From ''Website/TheOnion'': Its DeaderThanDisco status is so great that ''Website/TheOnion'' even made fun of it with the article "[[http://www.theonion.com/articles/nations-weirdest-teenager-buys-season-one-dvd-of-m,21004/ Nation's Weirdest Teenager Buys Season One DVD Of 'Murphy Brown']]"Brown']]".
25th Nov '16 2:29:35 AM AreYouTyler
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* ''Series/BarneyAndFriends'' was a gigantic phenomenon across TheNineties among young children worldwide, but it quickly built what is possibly the biggest PeripheryHatedom among most older children and adults. However, the series lost its steam during the TurnOfTheMillennium due to the creation and popularity of other preschool cartoons and series made by, among others, Nickelodeon and Disney Channel, as well as SeasonalRot marked by the addition of a new character (Riff) and it was put on an indefinite hiatus at the end of the decade without any fanfare or any signs of it coming back into production. Most PBS stations and other channels worldwide no longer air the series, and many younger children nowadays probably aren't even aware of its existence. Flash forward to the present, and the series is barely a footnote in launching the careers of Music/DemiLovato and Music/SelenaGomez (and a bunch of other lesser-known stars like [[WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse Michaela Dietz]], Kyla Pratt and Madison Pettis), and if ''Barney'' or the song "I Love You" is brought up today, [[SnarkBait it's begging to be made fun of]].

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* ''Series/BarneyAndFriends'' was a gigantic phenomenon across TheNineties among young children worldwide, but it quickly built what is possibly the biggest PeripheryHatedom among most older children and adults. However, the series lost its steam during the TurnOfTheMillennium due to the creation and popularity of other preschool cartoons and series made by, among others, Nickelodeon and Disney Channel, as well as SeasonalRot marked by the addition of a new character (Riff) and it was put on an indefinite hiatus at the end of the decade without any fanfare or any signs of it coming back into production. Most PBS stations and other channels worldwide no longer air the series, and many younger children nowadays probably aren't even aware of its existence. ''Barney'' is set to be rebooted in 2017, but there has been no hype for the reboot at all. Flash forward to the present, and the series is barely a footnote in launching the careers of Music/DemiLovato and Music/SelenaGomez (and a bunch of other lesser-known stars like [[WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse Michaela Dietz]], Kyla Pratt and Madison Pettis), and if ''Barney'' or the song "I Love You" is brought up today, [[SnarkBait it's begging to be made fun of]].
11th Nov '16 4:16:15 PM Scifimaster92
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26th Oct '16 5:28:35 PM lledsmar
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!!Creator/TheWB
* ''Series/SeventhHeaven'' was the [[LongRunners longest-running]] and highest-rated show on TheWB by far (as well as Creator/AaronSpelling's longest-running show), loved by many viewers and providing SnarkBait for many others (it was likely one of the few shows on the network to attract audiences ''outside'' the valued 1849 demographic). Now, the show's reputation and image, along with the cast's dependable residual checks, will be forever tarnished (and possibly, permanently banished from syndicated reruns, with the exception of the very brave Up network) by child molestation allegations against lead actor Stephen Collins.
26th Oct '16 5:25:54 PM lledsmar
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!!Creator/{{HBO}}
* ''1st and Ten'' was one of cable television's (in general) first attempts to lure the lucrative sitcom audience away from the "Big Three" (Creator/{{ABC}}, Creator/{{CBS}}, and Creator/{{NBC}}), by taking advantage of their freedom to include occasional cursing and nudity. It ran for six seasons on HBO for a total of 80 episodes. While the complete series was released on DVD in 2006, the majority of episodes on the "Complete Collection" DVD are the {{bowdlerized}} syndicated versions. To add insult to injury, it's been excluded from the streaming video platform HBO Go. Besides having some dialog and scenes edited for content, syndication versions ran for 22 minutes (as opposed to 30 minutes on HBO), and included a laugh track. While ''1st and Ten'' was novel for its time (while language could nonetheless still be considered 'HBO'ish', it wasn't excessively vulgar) when compared to sitcoms on broadcast network television, it seems rather cheesy (with its pretty awful acting, cliched dialogue, continuity catastrophes, editing errors, and an off-and-on laugh track) in a modern context. The participation of O.J. Simpson most certainly didn't help its long-term legacy.

26th Oct '16 5:22:22 PM lledsmar
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!!Creator/TheWB
* ''Series/SeventhHeaven'' was the [[LongRunners longest-running]] and highest-rated show on TheWB by far (as well as Creator/AaronSpelling's longest-running show), loved by many viewers and providing SnarkBait for many others (it was likely one of the few shows on the network to attract audiences ''outside'' the valued 1849 demographic). Now, the show's reputation and image, along with the cast's dependable residual checks, will be forever tarnished (and possibly, permanently banished from syndicated reruns, with the exception of the very brave Up network) by child molestation allegations against lead actor Stephen Collins.
26th Oct '16 5:11:51 PM lledsmar
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* ''Series/NorthernExposure'' received a total of 57 award nominations during its five-year run and won 27, including the 1992 Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Drama Series, two additional Primetime Emmy Awards, four Creative Arts Emmy Awards, and two Golden Globes. It also ranked among the top 10 viewed by 18- to 49-year-olds when it was part of the CBS' 19921993, and 19931994 schedules. Despite all of this, nowadays, ''Northern Exposure'' is hardly seen (to digitally stream or purchase) or referenced anywhere. While all six seasons have been officially released to DVD, they have caused controversy among the show's fans due to their high prices and the changes to the soundtrack introduced in order to lower their costs. To be more specific, the release of Season 1 did contain the original music, but retailed for $60 due to the cost of music licensing. Subsequent seasons replaced most of the music with generic elevator-style music, resulting in a lower-cost release. With that being said, ''Northern Exposure'' was never (in hindsight) a really influential show in the sense that present-day shows owe their vibe in part to it (for fans of WesternAnimation/TheCritic- ''gotta see moose, gotta see moose''). In essence, quirky fish-out-of-water dramedies like ''Northern Exposure'' are not currently a mainstay on network television (''Series/HartOfDixie'' withstanding). It isn't like the show's creators went on to create other similar shows like, say, David E. Kelley. The most famous or notable writer alum is David Chase, who is usually cited as being "the creator of ''Series/TheSopranos'' before being cited as "a producer of ''Northern Exposure''." Also the show's leads didn't exactly enjoy much success on other major shows (the closest probably being John Corbett via his role on ''Series/SexAndTheCity'') since. ''Northern Exposure'' towards the end was arguably suffering from a serious case of SeasonalRot partially due to the producers simply running out of ideas as well as the abrupt departure of series star, Rob Morrow. It was recently voted to be one the worst shows of all time according to Rolling Stone [[http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news/12-worst-tv-shows-of-all-time-w441775]].

18th Oct '16 7:42:34 AM HighCrate
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* In the mid-late '00s, ''Series/LagunaBeach'' ushered in a reality-themed wave of programming for MTV. A hugely popular reality show about a group of teenagers living in an affluent Orange County, California suburb (the show's {{tagline}} referred to it as "The Real Orange County", a TakeThat towards the hit TeenDrama ''Series/TheOC''), it spawned catchphrases like "so much drama", and was parodied by shows like ''Series/MadTV'' at its peak. It also evolved into a franchise that spawned several spinoffs, including one set a few miles up the coast with a new cast of kids (''Newport Harbor''), one following former lead character Lauren Conrad's post-high school adventures in the Los Angeles fashion industry (''Series/TheHills'', which ran for more than twice as many episodes as its parent show), and a {{spinoff}} focusing on Lauren's co-worker, Whitney Port, who moves to [[BigApplesauce New York]] (''The City'').\\\
Despite the fact that it was initially a huge success, various problems began to work their way into the franchise. Even at its zenith, the shows were treated like GuiltyPleasures, most notably by MTV Canada, which ran a series of "aftershows" that [[StupidStatementDanceMix mocked]] stupid comments from the shows' casts and generally treated them as one big joke. The core casts were seen as vapid and loathsome stereotypes by many, and as they got older and graduated, the pretense of a reality show set in high school no longer worked. MTV got around this through all those spinoffs, but they were meeting diminishing returns -- ''The City'' and ''Newport Harbor'' were cancelled in their second seasons, while a spinoff focusing on another of Lauren's co-workers, Audrina Patridge, never made it past an initial season. Above all, it was obvious to everybody that the shows were all heavily staged and exaggerated for the sake of drama, with ''The Hills''[='=] bizarre GainaxEnding all but confirming it. Eventually, the franchise imploded completely in 2010 and 2011, and nowadays it's viewed as a symbol of the vapidness of youth culture in the '00s and the point of no return in MTV's NetworkDecay.

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* In the mid-late '00s, ''Series/LagunaBeach'' ushered in a reality-themed wave of programming for MTV. A hugely popular reality show about a group of teenagers living in an affluent Orange County, California suburb (the show's {{tagline}} referred to it as "The Real Orange County", a TakeThat towards the hit TeenDrama ''Series/TheOC''), it spawned catchphrases like "so much drama", and was parodied by shows like ''Series/MadTV'' at its peak. It also evolved into a franchise that spawned several spinoffs, including one set a few miles up the coast with a new cast of kids (''Newport Harbor''), one following former lead character Lauren Conrad's post-high school adventures in the Los Angeles fashion industry (''Series/TheHills'', which ran for more than twice as many episodes as its parent show), and a {{spinoff}} focusing on Lauren's co-worker, Whitney Port, who moves to [[BigApplesauce New York]] (''The City'').\\\
Despite the fact that it was initially a huge success, various problems began to work their way into the franchise. Even at its zenith, the shows were treated like GuiltyPleasures, most notably by MTV Canada, which ran a series of "aftershows" that [[StupidStatementDanceMix mocked]] stupid comments from the shows' casts and generally treated them as one big joke. The core casts were seen as vapid and loathsome stereotypes by many, and as they got older and graduated, the pretense of a reality show set in high school no longer worked. MTV got around this through all those spinoffs, but they were meeting diminishing returns -- ''The City'' and ''Newport Harbor'' were cancelled in their second seasons, while a spinoff focusing on another of Lauren's co-workers, Audrina Patridge, never made it past an initial season. Above all, it was obvious to everybody that the shows were all heavily staged and exaggerated for the sake of drama, with ''The Hills''[='=] bizarre GainaxEnding all but confirming it. Eventually, the franchise imploded completely in 2010 and 2011, and nowadays it's viewed as a symbol of the vapidness of youth culture in the '00s and the point of no return in MTV's NetworkDecay.




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* The UrExample for television may be TV personality [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Godfrey Arthur Godfrey]]. Having started in radio in the '30s, he rose to become Creator/{{CBS}}' morning radio host in 1945 and eventually moved on to their young television network, with his shows becoming extraordinarily popular in the late '40s and early '50s. However, viewers turned against him after the "La Rosa incident", which revealed that, [[NiceCharacterMeanActor behind his folksy, friendly, gee-shucks demeanor]], Godfrey was actually a [[SmallNameBigEgo cruel, egotistical taskmaster]]. In 1953, he fired Julius La Rosa, a popular singer on one of his shows, ''on the air'' for ''going to his grandmother's funeral'' instead of taking a dancing class he didn't actually need. The fact that a number of people behind the scenes suspected that [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s75wpdiri8 the real reason]] was because Godfrey felt threatened by La Rosa's rise to stardom in his own right (he was receiving more fan mail than Godfrey was, and had put out two hit records by then) only made the matter worse, as did an interview days later where Godfrey claimed that La Rosa had "no humility" (a charge that many were quick to [[{{Hypocrite}} spin around and tag on Godfrey himself]]) and additional firings over the next several years. While he still had a small number of diehard fans as TheFifties went on, enough to keep his show ''Talent Scouts'' on the air until 1958, afterwards he was relegated to a footnote of early television history, remembered nowadays mainly for loosely inspiring the films ''The Great Man'' and ''Film/AFaceInTheCrowd''.
* During his life, Creator/JimmySavile was an iconic and beloved British TV presenter, hosting ''Series/TopOfThePops'' and ''Jim'll Fix It'' and raising funds for charities and hospitals. Not long after his death in 2011, however, it came out that he had molested and sexually abused hundreds of people (particularly young girls) during his long career. The public turned against him virtually overnight, with many organizations that Savile had been a part of disowning him, signs and plaques bearing his name being vandalized and removed ''en masse'', and his own family taking down and destroying the ornate headstone on his grave out of respect for the victims. His reputation was sealed by an Creator/{{ITV}} documentary in 2012 detailing his crimes, which managed to cause a scandal when it revealed that some in Creator/TheBBC, the UsefulNotes/NationalHealthService, and British law enforcement knew about what he was doing (or at least suspected it) and were complicit in covering it up. Today, he is a reviled figure in Britain, and entire swaths of the ''Top of the Pops'' library are now either off-limits or have those who attended its tapings blurred out to the point of absurdity, as ''any young person'' Savile met in that audience could be or could've been a possible victim.
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18th Oct '16 5:21:02 AM Scifimaster92
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* The UrExample for television may be TV personality [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Godfrey Arthur Godfrey]]. Having started in radio in the '30s, he rose to become Creator/{{CBS}}' morning radio host in 1945 and eventually moved on to their young television network, with his shows becoming extraordinarily popular in the late '40s and early '50s. However, viewers turned against him after the "La Rosa incident", which revealed that, [[NiceCharacterMeanActor behind his folksy, friendly, gee-shucks demeanor]], Godfrey was actually a [[SmallNameBigEgo cruel, egotistical taskmaster]]. In 1953, he fired Julius La Rosa, a popular singer on one of his shows, ''on the air'' for ''going to his grandmother's funeral'' instead of taking a dancing class he didn't actually need. The fact that a number of people behind the scenes suspected that [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s75wpdiri8 the real reason]] was because Godfrey felt threatened by La Rosa's rise to stardom in his own right (he was receiving more fan mail than Godfrey was, and had put out two hit records by then) only made the matter worse, as did an interview days later where Godfrey claimed that La Rosa had "no humility" (a charge that many were quick to [[{{Hypocrite}} spin around and tag on Godfrey himself]]) and additional firings over the next several years. While he still had a small number of diehard fans as TheFifties went on, enough to keep his show ''Talent Scouts'' on the air until 1958, afterwards he was relegated to a footnote of early television history, remembered nowadays mainly for loosely inspiring the films ''The Great Man'' and ''Film/AFaceInTheCrowd''.
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* During his life, Creator/JimmySavile was an iconic and beloved British TV presenter, hosting ''Series/TopOfThePops'' and ''Jim'll Fix It'' and raising funds for charities and hospitals. Not long after his death in 2011, however, it came out that he had molested and sexually abused hundreds of people (particularly young girls) during his long career. The public turned against him virtually overnight, with many organizations that Savile had been a part of disowning him, signs and plaques bearing his name being vandalized and removed ''en masse'', and his own family taking down and destroying the ornate headstone on his grave out of respect for the victims. His reputation was sealed by an Creator/{{ITV}} documentary in 2012 detailing his crimes, which managed to cause a scandal when it revealed that some in Creator/TheBBC, the UsefulNotes/NationalHealthService, and British law enforcement knew about what he was doing (or at least suspected it) and were complicit in covering it up. Today, he is a reviled figure in Britain, and entire swaths of the ''Top of the Pops'' library are now either off-limits or have those who attended its tapings blurred out to the point of absurdity, as ''any young person'' Savile met in that audience could be or could've been a possible victim.


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* During his life, Creator/JimmySavile was an iconic and beloved British TV presenter, hosting ''Series/TopOfThePops'' and ''Jim'll Fix It'' and raising funds for charities and hospitals. Not long after his death in 2011, however, it came out that he had molested and sexually abused hundreds of people (particularly young girls) during his long career. The public turned against him virtually overnight, with many organizations that Savile had been a part of disowning him, signs and plaques bearing his name being vandalized and removed ''en masse'', and his own family taking down and destroying the ornate headstone on his grave out of respect for the victims. His reputation was sealed by an Creator/{{ITV}} documentary in 2012 detailing his crimes, which managed to cause a scandal when it revealed that some in Creator/TheBBC, the UsefulNotes/NationalHealthService, and British law enforcement knew about what he was doing (or at least suspected it) and were complicit in covering it up. Today, he is a reviled figure in Britain, and entire swaths of the ''Top of the Pops'' library are now either off-limits or have those who attended its tapings blurred out to the point of absurdity, as ''any young person'' Savile met in that audience could be or could've been a possible victim.
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