History DeaderThanDisco / AnimeAndManga

24th Sep '16 4:30:45 PM AnotherDuck
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* Sites like Crunchyroll and Funimation seem to have {{fansubs}} heading this way, as they can offer subbed versions of shows on the other side of the Pacific as soon as they hit the airwaves in Japan. On the other hand, some fansubbers feel they do a better job than the "official" subbers.
** They are also still popular with the [=BitTorrent=] crowd due to their accessibility.
24th Sep '16 3:38:28 PM HighCrate
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** It doesn't help that the Japanese online slang equivalent for this trope, "Owacon[[note]]Short for "Owatta Contents", with "Owatta" meaning "finished" or "ended"[[/note]]," came out during the InternetBackdraft that ensued in 2ch after each episode was released and has stuck on since.



* This led to Creator/Clamp being this in general. Back then, Clamp was praised as one of the greatest Mangaka due to the works of the ''Manga/CardCaptorSakura'', ''Manga/{{xxxHolic}}'', the aforementioned ''Manga/TsubasaReservoirChronicle'', and ''Manga/{{Chobits}}''. However, due to giving their series constant rushed or NoEnding (especially xxxHolic and Tsubasa), few of their mangas went on hiatus on few occasions, and their [[Manga/{{Kobato}} latest]] [[Manga/{{Gate 7}} works]] had less good qualities in comparison to their previous. Now, nobody cares about what they are producing and those who were once a fan of their series (like xxxHolic and Tsubasa) are likely won't bother to look at their sequels.
24th Sep '16 2:30:30 PM Salsh_Loli
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*This led to Creator/Clamp being this in general. Back then, Clamp was praised as one of the greatest Mangaka due to the works of the ''Manga/CardCaptorSakura'', ''Manga/{{xxxHolic}}'', the aforementioned ''Manga/TsubasaReservoirChronicle'', and ''Manga/{{Chobits}}''. However, due to giving their series constant rushed or NoEnding (especially xxxHolic and Tsubasa), few of their mangas went on hiatus on few occasions, and their [[Manga/{{Kobato}} latest]] [[Manga/{{Gate 7}} works]] had less good qualities in comparison to their previous. Now, nobody cares about what they are producing and those who were once a fan of their series (like xxxHolic and Tsubasa) are likely won't bother to look at their sequels.
17th Sep '16 8:02:19 PM Xteme19
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* For the first years of publication, ''{{Manga/Bleach}}'' was a very popular {{Shonen}} action manga series with strong volume sales, a successful anime adaptation, a large amount of presence in the anime and manga fandom, and was one of Shonen Jump's "Big 3" by the English-speaking fandom, along with ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' and ''Manga/{{One Piece}}''. However, the series eventually had a sharp decline in popularity and general opinions of it soured considerably. The anime version was cancelled in 2012, being replaced by the comedic ''Naruto'' spinoff, ''Anime/RockLeesSpringtimeOfYouth''.\\\

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* For the first years of publication, ''{{Manga/Bleach}}'' was a very popular {{Shonen}} supernatural action manga series with strong volume sales, a successful anime adaptation, a large amount of presence in the anime and manga fandom, and was one of Shonen Jump's "Big 3" by the English-speaking fandom, along with ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' and ''Manga/{{One Piece}}''. However, the series eventually had a sharp decline in popularity and general opinions of it soured considerably. The anime version was cancelled in 2012, being replaced by the comedic ''Naruto'' spinoff, ''Anime/RockLeesSpringtimeOfYouth''.\\\
17th Sep '16 1:45:27 PM lledsmar
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* Creator/FourKidsEntertainment was once a powerhouse in importing anime like ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' and ''Anime/YuGiOh''. By censoring and editing these shows for children's television, the company gained a minor {{hatedom}} among anime purists. These translations were commercially successful enough for the company to import and produce more titles like ''Manga/OnePiece'', ''[[Manga/OjamajoDoremi Magical Doremi]]'', ''WesternAnimation/WinxClub'', and ''WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2003''.\\\

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* Creator/FourKidsEntertainment was once a powerhouse in importing anime like ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' and ''Anime/YuGiOh''. By censoring and editing these shows for children's television, the company gained a minor {{hatedom}} among anime purists. These translations were commercially successful enough for the company to import and produce more titles like ''Manga/OnePiece'', ''[[Manga/OjamajoDoremi Magical Doremi]]'', ''WesternAnimation/WinxClub'', ''WesternAnimation/SonicX'' and ''WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2003''.\\\
12th Sep '16 2:33:46 AM Xteme19
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* For the first years of publication, ''{{Manga/Bleach}}'' was a very popular series with strong volume sales, a successful anime and a large amount of presence in the anime and manga fandom. However, the series eventually had a sharp decline in popularity and general opinions of it soured considerably. The anime version was cancelled in 2012, being replaced by the comedic ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' spinoff, ''Anime/RockLeesSpringtimeOfYouth''.\\\

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* For the first years of publication, ''{{Manga/Bleach}}'' was a very popular {{Shonen}} action manga series with strong volume sales, a successful anime and adaptation, a large amount of presence in the anime and manga fandom.fandom, and was one of Shonen Jump's "Big 3" by the English-speaking fandom, along with ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' and ''Manga/{{One Piece}}''. However, the series eventually had a sharp decline in popularity and general opinions of it soured considerably. The anime version was cancelled in 2012, being replaced by the comedic ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' ''Naruto'' spinoff, ''Anime/RockLeesSpringtimeOfYouth''.\\\
11th Sep '16 3:52:43 PM Xteme19
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* For the first years of publication, {{Manga/Bleach}} was a very popular series with strong volume sales, a successful anime and a large amount of presence in the anime and manga fandom. However, the series eventually had a sharp decline in popularity and general opinions of it soured considerably. The anime version was cancelled in 2012, being replaced by the comedic ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' spinoff, ''Anime/RockLeesSpringtimeOfYouth''.\\\

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* For the first years of publication, {{Manga/Bleach}} ''{{Manga/Bleach}}'' was a very popular series with strong volume sales, a successful anime and a large amount of presence in the anime and manga fandom. However, the series eventually had a sharp decline in popularity and general opinions of it soured considerably. The anime version was cancelled in 2012, being replaced by the comedic ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' spinoff, ''Anime/RockLeesSpringtimeOfYouth''.\\\
8th Sep '16 2:24:41 PM AreYouTyler
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* The concept of the DubNameChange has become this, at least when it comes to English dubs. This often goes hand-in-hand with the above-mentioned decline of the CutAndPasteTranslation. Prior to the mid-2000s it was the default to "westernize" characters names even if a ThinlyVeiledDubCountryChange wasn't the intention. With the rise of the internet anime community and more knowledge of the original Japanese versions of anime, fewer and fewer dubs are changing characters names. Even series like ''Anime/{{Beyblade}}'' and ''Franchise/{{YuGiOh}}'' which originally changed characters names have dropped the practice. English dubs changing the characters names is often seen as a sign of a ''{{Macekre}} bad'' dub and aren't as commonly accepted as they used to be. The few series that do this are usually long runners like ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' or are doing it to match their source, like ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' and ''Anime/YokaiWatch''. The ones that don't have those excuses are aimed at a young age bracket such as ''Glitter Force'' (the English dub of ''Anime/SmilePrettyCure'').

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* The concept of the DubNameChange has become this, at least when it comes to English dubs. This often goes hand-in-hand with the above-mentioned decline of the CutAndPasteTranslation. Prior to the mid-2000s it was the default to "westernize" characters names even if a ThinlyVeiledDubCountryChange wasn't the intention. With the rise of the internet anime community and more knowledge of the original Japanese versions of anime, fewer and fewer dubs are changing characters names. Even series like ''Anime/{{Beyblade}}'' and ''Franchise/{{YuGiOh}}'' which originally changed characters names have dropped the practice. English dubs changing the characters names is often seen as a sign of a ''{{Macekre}} bad'' dub and aren't as commonly accepted as they used to be. The few series that do this are usually long runners like ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' or are doing it to match their source, like ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' ''Pokémon'' and ''Anime/YokaiWatch''. The ones that don't have those excuses are aimed at a young age bracket such as ''Glitter Force'' (the English dub of ''Anime/SmilePrettyCure'').
7th Sep '16 12:39:47 PM hamza678
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* The concept of the DubNameChange has become this, at least when it comes to English dubs. This often goes hand-in-hand with the above-mentioned decline of the CutAndPasteTranslation. Prior to the mid-2000s it was the default to "westernize" characters names even if a ThinlyVeiledDubCountryChange wasn't the intention. With the rise of the internet anime community and more knowledge of the original Japanese versions of anime, fewer and fewer dubs are changing characters names. Even series like ''Anime/{{Beyblade}}'' and ''Franchise/{{YuGiOh}}'' which originally changed characters names have dropped the practice. English dubs changing the characters names is often seen as a sign of a ''{{Macekre bad}}'' dub and aren't as commonly accepted as they used to be. The few series that do this are usually long runners like ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' or are doing it to match their source, like ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' and ''Anime/YokaiWatch''. The ones that don't have those excuses are aimed at a young age bracket such as ''Glitter Force'' (the English dub of ''Anime/SmilePrettyCure'').

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* The concept of the DubNameChange has become this, at least when it comes to English dubs. This often goes hand-in-hand with the above-mentioned decline of the CutAndPasteTranslation. Prior to the mid-2000s it was the default to "westernize" characters names even if a ThinlyVeiledDubCountryChange wasn't the intention. With the rise of the internet anime community and more knowledge of the original Japanese versions of anime, fewer and fewer dubs are changing characters names. Even series like ''Anime/{{Beyblade}}'' and ''Franchise/{{YuGiOh}}'' which originally changed characters names have dropped the practice. English dubs changing the characters names is often seen as a sign of a ''{{Macekre bad}}'' ''{{Macekre}} bad'' dub and aren't as commonly accepted as they used to be. The few series that do this are usually long runners like ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' or are doing it to match their source, like ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' and ''Anime/YokaiWatch''. The ones that don't have those excuses are aimed at a young age bracket such as ''Glitter Force'' (the English dub of ''Anime/SmilePrettyCure'').
7th Sep '16 12:39:20 PM hamza678
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* Creator/FourKidsEntertainment was once a powerhouse in importing anime like ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' and ''Anime/YuGiOh''. By censoring and editing these shows for children's television, the company gained a minor hatedom among anime purists. These translations were commercially successful enough for the company to import and produce more titles like ''Manga/OnePiece'', ''[[OjamajoDoremi Magical Doremi]]'', ''WesternAnimation/WinxClub'', and ''WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2003''.\\\

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* Creator/FourKidsEntertainment was once a powerhouse in importing anime like ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' and ''Anime/YuGiOh''. By censoring and editing these shows for children's television, the company gained a minor hatedom {{hatedom}} among anime purists. These translations were commercially successful enough for the company to import and produce more titles like ''Manga/OnePiece'', ''[[OjamajoDoremi ''[[Manga/OjamajoDoremi Magical Doremi]]'', ''WesternAnimation/WinxClub'', and ''WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2003''.\\\



* For the first years of publication, {{Manga/Bleach}} was a very popular series with strong volume sales, a successful anime and a large amount of presence in the anime and manga fandom. However, the series eventually had a sharp decline in popularity and general opinions of it soured counsiderably. This is typically attributed this to the glacial pacing of the story past a certain point, a bad conclusion to a plotline that had been going on for years, and poor use of an overly large cast. The series eventually got axed abruptly, leading to what many consider an unsatisfying and rushed finale with many hanging plot threads, which has only soured opinions on the series further.

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* For the first years of publication, {{Manga/Bleach}} was a very popular series with strong volume sales, a successful anime and a large amount of presence in the anime and manga fandom. However, the series eventually had a sharp decline in popularity and general opinions of it soured counsiderably. considerably. The anime version was cancelled in 2012, being replaced by the comedic ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' spinoff, ''Anime/RockLeesSpringtimeOfYouth''.\\\
This is typically attributed this to the [[ArcFatigue glacial pacing of the story past a certain point, point]], a bad conclusion to a plotline that had been going on for years, and [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters poor use of an overly large cast.cast]]. The series eventually got axed abruptly, leading to what many consider an unsatisfying and rushed finale with many hanging plot threads, which has only soured opinions on the series further.
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