History DarkerAndEdgier / VideoGames

25th Apr '16 1:42:28 AM erforce
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* ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaLordsOfShadow'' is easily one of the darkest entries in the ''VideoGame/{{Castlevania}} series, given the level of {{Gorn}}, bucketloads of BlackAndGreyMorality, and the exceptionally CrapsackWorld setting.

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* ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaLordsOfShadow'' is easily one of the darkest entries in the ''VideoGame/{{Castlevania}} ''Franchise/{{Castlevania}} series, given the level of {{Gorn}}, bucketloads of BlackAndGreyMorality, and the exceptionally CrapsackWorld setting.
22nd Apr '16 2:50:36 PM Josef5678
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** ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyTactics'' is unusually dark and cynical by Final Fantasy standards. The setting and tone of the story is much less fantastical and much more gritty than most games in the series, with much more blood and on-screen death, a lot of moral ambiguity due to the political nature of the plot, and the most chilling and frightening [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations]] in the series as antagonists.

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** ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyTactics'' is unusually dark and cynical cynical, even by Final Fantasy ''Final Fantasy'' standards. The setting and tone of the story is much less fantastical and much more gritty than most games in the series, with much more blood and on-screen death, a lot of moral ambiguity due to the political nature of the plot, and the most chilling and frightening [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations]] in the series as antagonists.
22nd Apr '16 10:36:04 AM pinkdalek
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** ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyV'' is often considered LighterAndSofter due to its goofy sense of humour, but the story puts more of an emphasis on characters having realistic and ambiguous emotional reactions to things that happen to them when compared to its prequels. Instead of scenes where the characters accidentally destroy a village and immediately declare their defection from their kingdom, we get scenes like Bartz returning to his hometown and finding it slightly alienating (and rage-driving to express his grief when it gets destroyed); instead of scenes where character die, are wept over and then [[ForgottenFallenFriend forgotten]], we get scenes like the bereaved Krile showing little superficial grief but acting awkwardly at a party.
** In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI'', there are hints at unethical experimentation towards a sentient race by TheEmpire, the amnesiac main character, when knocked out, experiences [[FlashbackNightmare a particularly horrifying recollection]] about her being outfitted with a slave crown in a manner that is implied to be unwilling on her part, then being forced to torch fifty of the imperial troops alive, and the war speech made by the Emperor. In addition, the main villain, a psychotic jester named Kefka Palazzo manages to gleefully poison a civilization's water supply and was implied to have wiped out said civilization in what is essentially an act of Genocide, with the Empire also suffering losses from the same poison as well, and then proceeds to stab the Emperor in the back and cause the world to be significantly ruined, remaining this way throughout the second act, and it is implied that the world's condition is slowly getting worse, with the main bad guy (now a god) murdering various people with his Light of Judgement, even orphaning various people, and then trying to destroy the planet.

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** ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyV'' is often considered LighterAndSofter due to its goofy sense of humour, but ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI'' opens with a crashing organ riff and thunderbolts while the story puts more of an emphasis on characters having realistic and ambiguous emotional reactions to things OpeningScroll informs us that happen to them when compared to its prequels. Instead of scenes where the characters accidentally destroy a village and immediately declare their defection from their kingdom, we get scenes like Bartz returning to his hometown and finding it slightly alienating (and rage-driving to express his grief when it gets destroyed); instead of scenes where character die, are wept over and then [[ForgottenFallenFriend forgotten]], we get scenes like the bereaved Krile showing little superficial grief but acting awkwardly at a party.
** In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI'', there are hints at unethical experimentation towards
magic has died. TheEmpire has been experimenting on a sentient race by TheEmpire, the race, and at one point we're shown them ''literally'' being used up and thrown away. The amnesiac main character, when knocked out, experiences [[FlashbackNightmare a particularly horrifying recollection]] about her being outfitted with a slave crown in a manner that is implied to be unwilling on her part, then being enslaved and forced to torch fifty of the imperial troops alive, and the war speech made by the Emperor. In addition, the main villain, a psychotic jester named Kefka Palazzo manages to gleefully poison a civilization's water supply and was implied to have wiped out said civilization in what is essentially an act of Genocide, with the Empire also suffering losses from the same poison as well, and then proceeds to stab the Emperor in the back and cause the world to be significantly ruined, remaining this way throughout the second act, and it is implied that the world's condition is slowly getting worse, with the main bad guy (now a god) murdering various burn people with his Light of Judgement, even orphaning various people, alive. Previous lead villains in ''Final Fantasy'' games were shown using dark magic, killing individuals, torching towns and then trying to destroy end existence - the planet.lead villain of ''VI'', Kefka, is depicted as a slaver, imperialist and war criminal before gaining godlike power, after which he miserably potshots towns for want of something to do.
** ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' is even darker than ''VI'', combining the grittier tone of ''VI'' with Tetsuya Nomura's 'edgier' designs and a grungy dystopian {{Cyberpunk}} setting. The main cast go from being [[LaResistance rebels]], a ''Final Fantasy'' archetype used in ''II'' and ''VI'', to being explicitly identified as terrorists whose hopes of changing the political situation come across as naive. One faction of villains are [[CorruptCorporateExecutive evil capitalists]], and the other villain is a {{Gaslighting}} undead madman with the ability to [[MindControl possess people]] and a desire to [[DrivenToMadness drive the main character mad]]. The heroes are a complete DysfunctionJunction and the possibility is seriously floated that saving the world might involve killing all of humanity.
** ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyTactics'' is unusually dark and cynical by Final Fantasy standards. The setting and tone of the story is much less fantastical and much more gritty than most games in the series, with much more blood and on-screen death, a lot of moral ambiguity due to the political nature of the plot, and the most chilling and frightening [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations]] in the series as antagonists.



** The ending for ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII'' was averted, as it was a ''BittersweetEnding''. [[spoiler: Lightning, Snow, Hope, and Sazh are freed from their crystal stasis and their L'cie brands are gone, Serah and Dajh are freed from their crystal stasis as well and they have a big happy reunion. However, Fang and Vanille are still trapped in crystal, holding up Cocoon. The only consolation for this is that you know they still have each other.]]
** For 13-2, it was true with the ending. [[spoiler: Serah is dead, her sister is TakenForGranite, the villain's TimeCrash plan pulled through, Valhalla consumes the living world, the Goddess of Valhalla is dead, and the villain got off scot-free. It was a real DownerEnding.]]
** ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyTactics'' was unusually dark and cynical by Final Fantasy standards. The setting and tone of the story is much less fantastical and much more gritty than most games in the series, with much more blood and on-screen death, a lot of moral ambiguity due to the political nature of the plot, and the most chilling and frightening [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations]] in the series as antagonists.
22nd Apr '16 9:54:53 AM pinkdalek
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** [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyI The first game in the series]] was an optimistic journey of destined heroes out to save the world. [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyII The second game in the series]] ''starts off'' with its heroes getting ''slaughtered'' by {{The Empire}}'s {{Elite Mook}}s and losing one of their members, which is only an omen of the AnyoneCanDie nature of the plot.
** ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyV'' is often considered LighterAndSofter due to its goofy sense of humour, but the story puts more of an emphasis on characters having realistic and ambiguous emotional reactions to things that happen to them when compared to its prequels. Instead of scenes where the characters accidentally destroy a village and immediately declare their defection from their kingdom, we get scenes like Bartz returning to his hometown and finding it slightly alienating (and rage-driving to express his grief when it gets destroyed); instead of scenes where character die, are wept over and then [[ForgottenFallenFriend forgotten]], we get scenes like the bereaved Krile showing little superficial grief but acting awkwardly at a party.
** In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI'', there are hints at unethical experimentation towards a sentient race by TheEmpire, the amnesiac main character, when knocked out, experiences [[FlashbackNightmare a particularly horrifying recollection]] about her being outfitted with a slave crown in a manner that is implied to be unwilling on her part, then being forced to torch fifty of the imperial troops alive, and the war speech made by the Emperor. In addition, the main villain, a psychotic jester named Kefka Palazzo manages to gleefully poison a civilization's water supply and was implied to have wiped out said civilization in what is essentially an act of Genocide, with the Empire also suffering losses from the same poison as well, and then proceeds to stab the Emperor in the back and cause the world to be significantly ruined, remaining this way throughout the second act, and it is implied that the world's condition is slowly getting worse, with the main bad guy (now a god) murdering various people with his Light of Judgement, even orphaning various people, and then trying to destroy the planet.



** [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyI The first game in the series]] was an optimistic journey of destined heroes out to save the world. [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyII The second game in the series]] ''starts off'' with its heroes getting ''slaughtered'' by {{The Empire}}'s {{Elite Mook}}s and losing one of their members, which is only an omen of the AnyoneCanDie nature of the plot.
** In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI'', there are hints at unethical experimentation towards a sentient race by TheEmpire, the amnesiac main character, when knocked out, experiences [[FlashbackNightmare a particularly horrifying recollection]] about her being outfitted with a slave crown in a manner that is implied to be unwilling on her part, then being forced to torch fifty of the imperial troops alive, and the war speech made by the Emperor. In addition, the main villain, a psychotic jester named Kefka Palazzo manages to gleefully poison a civilization's water supply and was implied to have wiped out said civilization in what is essentially an act of Genocide, with the Empire also suffering losses from the same poison as well, and then proceeds to stab the Emperor in the back and cause the world to be significantly ruined, remaining this way throughout the second act, and it is implied that the world's condition is slowly getting worse, with the main bad guy (now a god) murdering various people with his Light of Judgement, even orphaning various people, and then trying to destroy the planet.
21st Apr '16 1:26:00 PM erforce
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* The original ''VideoGame/DoubleDragon'' was already a gritty game to begin with, but the arcade version of ''Double Dragon II: The Revenge'' attempted to up the ante by [[SuddenSequelDeathSyndrome killing off the girl from the first game]], changing the objective from [[SaveThePrincess rescuing her]] to [[StuffedInTheFridge avenging her death.]] All the returning enemy characters were redesigned to look more punkish (Linda the female {{mook}} for example, was given a mohawk and a chain whip) and the new bosses includes a masked wrestler who leaves behind his mask when he dies and an AndreTheGiant-lookalike with Film/{{Terminator}}-esque sunglasses whose stature dwarfs Abobo from the original game.

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* The original ''VideoGame/DoubleDragon'' was already a gritty game to begin with, but the arcade version of ''Double Dragon II: The Revenge'' attempted to up the ante by [[SuddenSequelDeathSyndrome killing off the girl from the first game]], changing the objective from [[SaveThePrincess rescuing her]] to [[StuffedInTheFridge avenging her death.]] All the returning enemy characters were redesigned to look more punkish (Linda the female {{mook}} for example, was given a mohawk and a chain whip) and the new bosses includes a masked wrestler who leaves behind his mask when he dies and an AndreTheGiant-lookalike with Film/{{Terminator}}-esque Franchise/{{Terminator}}-esque sunglasses whose stature dwarfs Abobo from the original game.
11th Apr '16 8:09:14 PM MyFinalEdits
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* ''VideoGame/DonkeyKongCountry2DiddysKongQuest'' was dark in comparison to the original ''VideoGame/DonkeyKongCountry''. The Kremlings are pirates and are carrying weapons like cannons and cutlasses around, Donkey Kong has been kidnapped, and in comparison to the friendly jungles and temples of the original island, you're fighting on the home turf of the Kremlings this time, an island full of swamps, sunken ships, ghost-infested structures, and a castle. The game in general also has a darker and more foreboding visual and audio aesthetic.

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* ''VideoGame/DonkeyKongCountry2DiddysKongQuest'' was is dark in comparison to the original ''VideoGame/DonkeyKongCountry''. The Kremlings are pirates and are carrying weapons like cannons and cutlasses around, Donkey Kong has been kidnapped, and in comparison to the friendly jungles and temples of the original island, you're fighting on the home turf of the Kremlings this time, an island full of swamps, sunken ships, ghost-infested structures, and a castle. The game in general also has a darker and more foreboding visual and audio aesthetic.



* ''VideoGame/HyruleTotalWar''. It's the colourful and cheerful world of Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda but not as you know it. A VideoGame/MedievalIITotalWar mod, H:TW features mass warfare, actual blood, FantasticRacism, and the possible slaughter of characters from the official games. WordOfGod says a darker Zelda game that he could actually take seriously again was one of his motivations for making the mod.

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* ''VideoGame/HyruleTotalWar''. It's the colourful and cheerful world of Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda ''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda'' but not as you know it. A VideoGame/MedievalIITotalWar ''VideoGame/MedievalIITotalWar'' mod, H:TW features mass warfare, actual blood, FantasticRacism, and the possible slaughter of characters from the official games. WordOfGod says a darker Zelda game that he could actually take seriously again was one of his motivations for making the mod.
11th Apr '16 2:51:59 PM Josef5678
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%%* ''VideoGame/DonkeyKongCountry 2'' was subtly darker than the previous.

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%%* ''VideoGame/DonkeyKongCountry 2'' * ''VideoGame/DonkeyKongCountry2DiddysKongQuest'' was subtly dark in comparison to the original ''VideoGame/DonkeyKongCountry''. The Kremlings are pirates and are carrying weapons like cannons and cutlasses around, Donkey Kong has been kidnapped, and in comparison to the friendly jungles and temples of the original island, you're fighting on the home turf of the Kremlings this time, an island full of swamps, sunken ships, ghost-infested structures, and a castle. The game in general also has a darker than the previous.and more foreboding visual and audio aesthetic.



%%* ''VideoGame/{{Doom}} 3'' is this compared to its predecessors. [[WhoForgotTheLights Especially ''darker'']].

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%%* ''VideoGame/{{Doom}} 3'' * Compared to the original ''VideoGame/{{Doom}}'', ''VideoGame/{{Doom 3}}'' is this compared to its predecessors. definitely darker in the [[WhoForgotTheLights Especially ''darker'']].literal sense]], but it also includes a storyline and several PDAs one can find to expand on how [[{{Pun}} Hellish]] UAC became. It also introduces a lot more Survival Horror elements and contains jump scares, and makes combat a bit slower.



%%* ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaLordsOfShadow'' is extremely dark and cynical for ''Franchise/{{Castlevania}}'' series. For better or for worse.

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%%* * ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaLordsOfShadow'' is extremely dark easily one of the darkest entries in the ''VideoGame/{{Castlevania}} series, given the level of {{Gorn}}, bucketloads of BlackAndGreyMorality, and cynical for ''Franchise/{{Castlevania}}'' series. For better or for worse.the exceptionally CrapsackWorld setting.



* ''VideoGame/PandoraFirstContact'' is this to VideoGame/SidMeiersAlphaCentauri. SMAC's "good" factions included the [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure humanitarian]] [[UnitedNationsIsASuperpower UN Peacekeepers]], the [[BewareTheNiceOnes peace-loving]] [[GreenThumb Gaians]], and the [[CoolPeopleRebelAgainstAuthority anarchistic]] [[PlayfulHacker Data Angels]], competing against the [[AxCrazy brutal and war-mongering]] [[TheSpartanWay Spartan Federation]], the [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill ruthless and authoritarian]] [[DirtyCommunists Human Hive]] and the [[TheFundamentalist fundamentalist]] [[ChurchMilitant Lord's Believers]]. ''Pandora'' has no such counterparts to the first three, and the counterparts to the latter three factions are outright evil: case in point, while the Lord's Believers have strongly Christian undertones and the occasional JerkassHasAPoint moment to make them somewhat sympathetic, their counterparts in ''Pandora'' - the Divine Ascension - are described as "the worst parts of Scientology, North Korea and Facebook" and their leader is a hypocritical cult leader who only formed her cult to amass power and blackmail material only to develop a genuine AGodAmI complex due to surviving an attempt on her life.

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* ''VideoGame/PandoraFirstContact'' is this to VideoGame/SidMeiersAlphaCentauri.''VideoGame/SidMeiersAlphaCentauri''. SMAC's "good" factions included the [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure humanitarian]] [[UnitedNationsIsASuperpower UN Peacekeepers]], the [[BewareTheNiceOnes peace-loving]] [[GreenThumb Gaians]], and the [[CoolPeopleRebelAgainstAuthority anarchistic]] [[PlayfulHacker Data Angels]], competing against the [[AxCrazy brutal and war-mongering]] [[TheSpartanWay Spartan Federation]], the [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill ruthless and authoritarian]] [[DirtyCommunists Human Hive]] and the [[TheFundamentalist fundamentalist]] [[ChurchMilitant Lord's Believers]]. ''Pandora'' has no such counterparts to the first three, and the counterparts to the latter three factions are outright evil: case in point, while the Lord's Believers have strongly Christian undertones and the occasional JerkassHasAPoint moment to make them somewhat sympathetic, their counterparts in ''Pandora'' - the Divine Ascension - are described as "the worst parts of Scientology, North Korea and Facebook" and their leader is a hypocritical cult leader who only formed her cult to amass power and blackmail material only to develop a genuine AGodAmI complex due to surviving an attempt on her life.
11th Apr '16 4:03:13 AM thatmadork
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* ''VideoGame/PandoraFirstContact'' is this to VideoGame/SidMeiersAlphaCentauri. SMAC's "good" factions included the [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure humanitarian]] [[UnitedNationsIsASuperpower UN Peacekeepers]], the [[BewareTheNiceOnes peace-loving]] [[GreenThumb Gaians]], and the [[CoolPeopleRebelAgainstAuthority anarchistic]] [[PlayfulHacker Data Angels]], competing against the [[AxCrazy brutal and war-mongering]] [[TheSpartanWay Spartan Federation]], the [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill ruthless and authoritarian]] [[DirtyCommunists Human Hive]] and the [[TheFundamentalist fundamentalist]] [[ChurchMilitant Lord's Believers]]. ''Pandora'' has no such counterparts to the first three, and the counterparts to the latter three factions are outright evil: case in point, while the Lord's Believers have strongly Christian undertones and the occasional JerkassHasAPoint moment to make them somewhat sympathetic, their counterparts in ''Pandora'' - the Divine Ascension - are described as "the worst parts of Scientology, North Korea and Facebook" and their leader is a hypocritical cult leader who only formed her cult to amass power and blackmail material only to develop a genuine AGodAmI complex due to surviving an attempt on her life.
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* ''VideoGame/HyruleTotalWar''. It's the colourful and cheerful world of Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda but not as you know it. A VideoGame/MedievalIITotalWar mod, H:TW features mass warfare, actual blood, FantasticRacism, and the possible slaughter of characters from the official games. WordOfGod says a darker Zelda game that he could actually take seriously again was one of his motivations for making the mod.
19th Mar '16 7:41:44 PM Josef5678
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** ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSpiritTracks Spirit Tracks]]'' is this to ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaPhantomHourglass Phantom Hourglass]]'', which is reflected in that it's one of the only two ''Zelda'' games in the Toon Link style to not receive a regular E rating, but rather E10+ (the other game being the HD remake of ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker Wind Waker]]''). The antagonist is a twisted, corrupt politician who is actually a demon in disguise, and the story features one of the shortest, but creepiest plot points of ''Twilight Princess'' as framework for a huge junk of the story: [[spoiler: Princess Zelda's empty body being possessed by a male SealedEvilInACan.]]

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** ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSpiritTracks Spirit Tracks]]'' is this to ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaPhantomHourglass Phantom Hourglass]]'', which is reflected in that it's one of the only two ''Zelda'' games in the Toon Link style to not receive a regular E rating, but rather E10+ (the other game being the HD remake of ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker Wind Waker]]''). The antagonist is a twisted, corrupt politician who is actually a demon in disguise, and the story features one of the shortest, but creepiest plot points of ''Twilight Princess'' as framework for a huge junk chunk of the story: [[spoiler: Princess Zelda's empty body being possessed by a male SealedEvilInACan.]]
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