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7th Nov '17 12:20:11 AM CassandraLeo
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* The whole genre of HipHop owes its current existence to this trope. Until the late '80s, the genre was dismissed as a passing fad by most music critics, due to its generally shallow/goofy lyrics and repetitive beats. But in 1988, two albums were released that would go on to legitimize hip hop and make it a relevant form of music: ''Music/ItTakesANationOfMillionsToHoldUsBack'' by Music/PublicEnemy and ''Music/StraightOuttaCompton'' by Music/{{NWA}}. The former featured biting political commentary, centered around the oppression of black culture in mainstream America. While the latter contained some of the most genuinely scathing lyrics ever heard in popular music up to that point (it was, in fact, one of the first albums to earn a "Parental Advisory" sticker). In the wake of those two albums, HipHop took on a much more serious and socially conscious tone, much to the delight of both critics and fans. A few years later, the genre of GangstaRap showed the world just how dark and edgy hip hop could be, cultivating in the real life deaths of rappers Music/TupacShakur and Music/TheNotoriousBIG. And then came the sub-genre known as {{Horrorcore}}. GangstaRap turned UpToEleven, with lyrics worthy of DeathMetal.

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* The whole genre of HipHop owes its current existence to this trope. Until the late '80s, the genre was dismissed as a passing fad by most music critics, due to its generally shallow/goofy lyrics and repetitive beats. But in 1988, two albums were released that would go on to legitimize hip hop and make it a relevant form of music: ''Music/ItTakesANationOfMillionsToHoldUsBack'' by Music/PublicEnemy and ''Music/StraightOuttaCompton'' by Music/{{NWA}}. The former featured biting political commentary, centered around the oppression of black culture in mainstream America. While the latter contained some of the most genuinely scathing lyrics ever heard in popular music up to that point (it was, in fact, one of the first albums to earn a "Parental Advisory" sticker). In the wake of those two albums, HipHop took on a much more serious and socially conscious tone, much to the delight of both critics and fans. A few years later, the genre of GangstaRap showed the world just how dark and edgy hip hop could be, cultivating in the real life deaths of rappers Music/TupacShakur and Music/TheNotoriousBIG. And then came the sub-genre known as {{Horrorcore}}. GangstaRap turned UpToEleven, with lyrics worthy of DeathMetal. Then there's industrial hip-hop, typified by acts like [[Music/{{Dalek}} dälek]], Music/DeathGrips, and Music/{{Clipping}}, which is simply way more abrasive than anything that had qualified as hip-hop before the 2000s.
1st Nov '17 8:13:02 PM bt8257
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* The entire genre of HipHop owes its current existence to this trope. Until the late '80s, the genre was dismissed as a passing fad by most music critics, due to its generally shallow/goofy lyrics and repetitive beats. But in 1988, two albums were released that would go on to legitimize hip hop and make it a relevant form of music: ''Music/ItTakesANationOfMillionsToHoldUsBack'' by Music/PublicEnemy and ''Music/StraightOuttaCompton'' by Music/{{NWA}}. The former featured biting political commentary, centered around the oppression of black culture in mainstream America. While the latter contained some of the most genuinely scathing lyrics ever heard in popular music up to that point (it was, in fact, one of the first albums to earn a "Parental Advisory" sticker). In the wake of those two albums, HipHop took on a much more serious and socially conscious tone, much to the delight of both critics and fans. A few years later, the genre of GangstaRap showed the world just how dark and edgy hip hop could be, cultivating in the real life deaths of rappers Music/TupacShakur and Music/TheNotoriousBIG. And then came the sub-genre known as {{Horrorcore}}. GangstaRap turned UpToEleven, with lyrics worthy of DeathMetal.

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* The entire whole genre of HipHop owes its current existence to this trope. Until the late '80s, the genre was dismissed as a passing fad by most music critics, due to its generally shallow/goofy lyrics and repetitive beats. But in 1988, two albums were released that would go on to legitimize hip hop and make it a relevant form of music: ''Music/ItTakesANationOfMillionsToHoldUsBack'' by Music/PublicEnemy and ''Music/StraightOuttaCompton'' by Music/{{NWA}}. The former featured biting political commentary, centered around the oppression of black culture in mainstream America. While the latter contained some of the most genuinely scathing lyrics ever heard in popular music up to that point (it was, in fact, one of the first albums to earn a "Parental Advisory" sticker). In the wake of those two albums, HipHop took on a much more serious and socially conscious tone, much to the delight of both critics and fans. A few years later, the genre of GangstaRap showed the world just how dark and edgy hip hop could be, cultivating in the real life deaths of rappers Music/TupacShakur and Music/TheNotoriousBIG. And then came the sub-genre known as {{Horrorcore}}. GangstaRap turned UpToEleven, with lyrics worthy of DeathMetal.



* Believe it or not, Music/{{Pantera}} started out as a mere GlamRock act, with their debut ''Metal Magic'' not quite living up to its title and a vocalist that sounded straight out of Music/{{Foreigner}} or Music/{{Loverboy}}, along with family-friendly lyrics that sounded straight out of a 1950s teenager's locker. Their following records ''Projects in the Jungle'' and ''I am the Night'', however, were each progressively more HeavyMetal influenced, and their once-squeaky clean singer had gotten noticeably harsher and started showing impressive falsettos, while the lyrics began delving into HotterAndSexier SexDrugsAndRockAndRoll territory, {{Fantasy}} themes, horror and {{Angst}}y subject matter (one song even deals with [[DrivenToSuicide suicide]]).

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* Believe it or not, Music/{{Pantera}} started out as a mere GlamRock act, with their debut ''Metal Magic'' not quite living up to its title and a vocalist that sounded straight out of Music/{{Foreigner}} or Music/{{Loverboy}}, along with family-friendly lyrics that sounded straight out of a 1950s teenager's locker. Their following records ''Projects in the Jungle'' and ''I am Am the Night'', however, were each progressively more HeavyMetal influenced, and their once-squeaky clean singer had gotten noticeably harsher and started showing impressive falsettos, while the lyrics began delving into HotterAndSexier SexDrugsAndRockAndRoll territory, {{Fantasy}} themes, horror and {{Angst}}y subject matter (one song even deals with [[DrivenToSuicide suicide]]).
19th Oct '17 3:33:43 PM bt8257
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* For Music/ATribeCalledQuest, the change was very gradual, starting from ''Music/TheLowEndTheory'''s more laid-back tone, more earthy soundscape, and slightly more realistic lyrics to ''Midnight Maurader'''s more confrontational and serious tones, ''Beats, Rhymes, and Life'' finally topped this off with plenty of swearing, dark beats, and realistic situations. It also watered-down its playful, surreal sound. Music/DeLaSoul also went through this, except its transition was MUCH more sudden.

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* For Music/ATribeCalledQuest, the change was very gradual, starting from ''Music/TheLowEndTheory'''s more laid-back tone, more earthy soundscape, and slightly more realistic lyrics to ''Midnight Maurader'''s the more confrontational and serious tones, tones of ''Midnight Maurader''. ''Beats, Rhymes, and Life'' finally topped this off with plenty of swearing, dark beats, and realistic situations. It also watered-down its playful, surreal sound. Music/DeLaSoul also went through this, except its transition was MUCH more sudden.



* ''Third/Sister Lovers'' by Music/BigStar. It was recorded at a time when Alex Chilton was tired of getting fucked around with by various record companies, and boy, does it show. It carries on the messy sonic sprawl of ''Radio City'', but with more bleaker lyrics.

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* ''Third/Sister Lovers'' by Music/BigStar. It was recorded at a time when Alex Chilton was tired of getting fucked around with by various record companies, and boy, does it show. It carries on the messy sonic sprawl of ''Radio City'', but with more bleaker lyrics.
19th Oct '17 3:31:59 PM bt8257
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* For Music/ATribeCalledQuest, the change was very gradual, starting from ''Music/TheLowEndTheory'''s more laid-back tone, more earthy soundscape, and slightly more realistic lyrics to Midnight Maurader's more confrontational and serious tones, Beats, Rhymes, And Life finally topped this off with plenty of swearing, dark beats, and realistic situations. It also watered-down its playful, surreal sound.
** Music/DeLaSoul also went through this, except its transition was MUCH more sudden.

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* For Music/ATribeCalledQuest, the change was very gradual, starting from ''Music/TheLowEndTheory'''s more laid-back tone, more earthy soundscape, and slightly more realistic lyrics to Midnight Maurader's ''Midnight Maurader'''s more confrontational and serious tones, Beats, ''Beats, Rhymes, And Life and Life'' finally topped this off with plenty of swearing, dark beats, and realistic situations. It also watered-down its playful, surreal sound.
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sound. Music/DeLaSoul also went through this, except its transition was MUCH more sudden.



** Frankly, the last thirty years of HeavyMetal could be summed up as a sort of DarkerAndEdgier LensmanArmsRace.

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** Frankly, the last thirty 30 years of HeavyMetal could be summed up as a sort of DarkerAndEdgier LensmanArmsRace.



* ''Music/{{Lemonade}}'' is ''Music/{{Beyonce}}'''s darkest work yet. The album is entirely based around AdultFear: what to do when your partner cheats on you, how to move on and the lasting effects it can have in a marriage. The songs go further and show this is a problem to have also happened to her mother and grandmother. The album has also been praised for it's exploration of black feminism and womanhood.

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* ''Music/{{Lemonade}}'' is ''Music/{{Beyonce}}'''s darkest work yet. The album is entirely based around AdultFear: what to do when your partner cheats on you, how to move on and the lasting effects it can have in a marriage. The songs go further and show this is a problem to have also happened to her mother and grandmother. The album has also been praised for it's its exploration of black feminism and womanhood.
21st Sep '17 1:24:32 AM bt8257
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* Music/ManicStreetPreachers started off with a double album ''Generation Terrorists'', which had a political glam-punk sound inspired by Music/GunsNRoses. Their second album, ''Gold Against the Soul'', was more introspective compared to the first, while retaining the glam of their debut. Richey Edwards, one of the band's songwriters, began to lose control and go on a downward spiral, resulting in the increasingly dark nature of his lyrics. This culminated with the grim, pessimistic atmosphere in the band's third album, ''The Holy Bible''. Just as the band was about to tour stateside to promote their third album, Richey disappeared (he would later be presumed dead). The band, reforming as a trio, recorded music that was LighterAndSofter, even though the band would occasionally release darker albums such as ''Know Your Enemy'' and ''Journal for Plague Lovers'' (which contained the last of Richey's lyrics).

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* Music/ManicStreetPreachers started off with a double album album, ''Generation Terrorists'', which had a political glam-punk sound inspired by Music/GunsNRoses. Their second album, ''Gold Against the Soul'', was more introspective compared to the first, while retaining the glam of their debut. Richey Edwards, one of the band's songwriters, began to lose control and go on a downward spiral, resulting in the increasingly dark nature of his lyrics. This culminated with the grim, pessimistic atmosphere in the band's third album, ''The Holy Bible''. Just as the band was about to tour stateside to promote their third album, Richey disappeared (he would later be presumed dead). The band, reforming as a trio, recorded music that was LighterAndSofter, even though the band would occasionally release darker albums such as ''Know Your Enemy'' and ''Journal for Plague Lovers'' (which contained the last of Richey's lyrics).



** Many hold that if you compare her to other teen pop stars, she's dark and edgy. Others contend that, in comparison to many other genres and groups, she's not that much different from any other popstar despite a different packaging.

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** Many hold that if you compare her to other teen pop stars, she's dark and edgy. Others contend that, in comparison to many other genres and groups, she's not that much different from any other popstar pop star despite a different packaging.



** ''Th1rt3en'' took them back in a more radio-friendly direction, which was further expanded on with ''Super Collider''.

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** ''Th1rt3en'' ''[=Th1rt3en=]'' took them back in a more radio-friendly direction, which was further expanded on with ''Super Collider''.
20th Sep '17 3:28:33 PM bt8257
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* The entire genre of HipHop owes its current existence to this trope. Until the late-80's, the genre was dismissed as a passing fad by most music critics, due to its generally shallow/goofy lyrics and repetitive beats. But then, in 1988, two albums were released that would go on to legitimize hip hop and make it a relevant form of music: ''Music/ItTakesANationOfMillionsToHoldUsBack'' by Music/PublicEnemy and ''Music/StraightOuttaCompton'' by Music/{{NWA}}. The former featured biting political commentary, centered around the oppression of black culture in mainstream America. While the latter contained some of the most genuinely scathing lyrics ever heard in popular music up to that point (it was, in fact, one of the first albums to earn a "Parental Advisory" sticker). In the wake of those two albums, HipHop took on a much more serious and socially conscious tone, much to the delight of both critics and fans. A few years later, the genre of GangstaRap showed the world just how dark and edgy hip hop could be, cultivating in the real life deaths of rappers Music/TupacShakur and Music/TheNotoriousBIG. And then came the sub-genre known as {{Horrorcore}}. GangstaRap turned UpToEleven, with lyrics worthy of DeathMetal.
* For Music/ATribeCalledQuest, the change was very gradual, starting from ''Music/TheLowEndTheory'''s more laid-back tone, more earthy soundscape, and slightly more realistic lyrics to Midnight Maurader's more confrontational and serious tones, Beats, Rhymes, And Life finally topped this off with excessive swearing, Dark beats, and realistic situations. It also watered-down its playful, surreal sound.

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* The entire genre of HipHop owes its current existence to this trope. Until the late-80's, late '80s, the genre was dismissed as a passing fad by most music critics, due to its generally shallow/goofy lyrics and repetitive beats. But then, in 1988, two albums were released that would go on to legitimize hip hop and make it a relevant form of music: ''Music/ItTakesANationOfMillionsToHoldUsBack'' by Music/PublicEnemy and ''Music/StraightOuttaCompton'' by Music/{{NWA}}. The former featured biting political commentary, centered around the oppression of black culture in mainstream America. While the latter contained some of the most genuinely scathing lyrics ever heard in popular music up to that point (it was, in fact, one of the first albums to earn a "Parental Advisory" sticker). In the wake of those two albums, HipHop took on a much more serious and socially conscious tone, much to the delight of both critics and fans. A few years later, the genre of GangstaRap showed the world just how dark and edgy hip hop could be, cultivating in the real life deaths of rappers Music/TupacShakur and Music/TheNotoriousBIG. And then came the sub-genre known as {{Horrorcore}}. GangstaRap turned UpToEleven, with lyrics worthy of DeathMetal.
* For Music/ATribeCalledQuest, the change was very gradual, starting from ''Music/TheLowEndTheory'''s more laid-back tone, more earthy soundscape, and slightly more realistic lyrics to Midnight Maurader's more confrontational and serious tones, Beats, Rhymes, And Life finally topped this off with excessive plenty of swearing, Dark dark beats, and realistic situations. It also watered-down its playful, surreal sound.



* Music/LanaDelRey's album "Ultraviolence" was particularly well-received because of its darker and edgier themes and more personal content. Among other things, the album deals with abusive relationships, drug use, and prostitution.

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* Music/LanaDelRey's album "Ultraviolence" ''Ultraviolence'' was particularly well-received because of its darker and edgier themes and more personal content. Among other things, the album deals with abusive relationships, drug use, and prostitution.



** Then they managed to go from Darker And Edgier after three albums, to even more, MUCH MORE, with the release of their eighth album "The Great Southern Trendkill", which dealt with the afforded-mentioned subject matter relating to suicide, drugs, the end of the world by a massive flood, the media and many more topics along with Anselmo AND Seth Putnam from Music/AnalCunt himself sounding like both are ready to go "[[ContinuityNod fucking hostile]]"

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** Then they managed to go from Darker And and Edgier after three albums, to even more, MUCH MORE, with the release of their eighth album "The Great Southern Trendkill", which dealt with the afforded-mentioned subject matter relating to suicide, drugs, the end of the world by a massive flood, the media and many more topics along with Anselmo AND Seth Putnam from Music/AnalCunt himself sounding like both are ready to go "[[ContinuityNod fucking hostile]]"



* Progressive metal band Music/DreamTheater subtly evolved in this direction; in terms of lyrics, the band started to explore slightly darker themes over time, and the occasional curse word started popping up, but this change has been mostly for the better, as their softer songs don't really portray the technical brilliance of the instrumentalists: vocals such as "The smile of dawn/Arrived early May/She carried a gift from her home/The night shed a tear/To tell her of fear and of sorrow and pain, she'll never outgrow" (from 1992's ''Images and Words'') stand in stark contrast to guitar riffs and drumming which wouldn't be out of place in a Music/{{Metallica}} song. The vocals also got darker over time, due to James' vocal injury and an increasing presence of Mike Portnoy's backing vocals. As well, their music has gotten heavier over time, with an increased use of seven-string guitars.

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* Progressive metal {{Progressive metal}} band Music/DreamTheater subtly evolved in this direction; in terms of lyrics, the band started to explore slightly darker themes over time, and the occasional curse word started popping up, but this change has been mostly for the better, as their softer songs don't really portray the technical brilliance of the instrumentalists: vocals such as "The smile of dawn/Arrived early May/She carried a gift from her home/The night shed a tear/To tell her of fear and of sorrow and pain, she'll never outgrow" (from 1992's ''Images and Words'') stand in stark contrast to guitar riffs and drumming which wouldn't be out of place in a Music/{{Metallica}} song. The vocals also got darker over time, due to James' vocal injury and an increasing presence of Mike Portnoy's backing vocals. As well, their music has gotten heavier over time, with an increased use of seven-string guitars.



* Music/NeilYoung's ''Music/RustNeverSleeps'' album is an example, as Young responded to the death of Music/ElvisPresley, the rise of PunkRock, and his own [[CreatorBreakdown fears of becoming culturally irrelevant]] by turning his soft-ish folk rock into nihilist hard rock with heavy distorted guitars, in a postmodern stage show with giant amps, roadies dressed like Jawas, and decaying film footage from Woodstock. It ''worked'' - the album received widespread popular and critical acclaim, and has been cited as one of the earliest examples of what would become {{Grunge}} music.

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* Music/NeilYoung's ''Music/RustNeverSleeps'' album is an example, as Young responded to the death of Music/ElvisPresley, the rise of PunkRock, and his own [[CreatorBreakdown fears of becoming culturally irrelevant]] by turning his soft-ish folk rock into nihilist hard rock with heavy distorted guitars, in a postmodern stage show with giant amps, roadies dressed like Jawas, and decaying film footage from Woodstock. It ''worked'' - worked; the album received widespread popular and critical acclaim, and has been cited as one of the earliest examples of what would become became {{Grunge}} music.



* Music/TheBeatles went this direction with ''Music/TheWhiteAlbum''. Though light, silly songs remained ("Back In The U.S.S.R", "Obi-La-Di, Obi-La-Da", "Birthday") many songs on the album were quite dark, such as "Julia", about the death of John Lennon's mother, "Blackbird", about racism, and especially "Revolution 9", a nightmarish sound collage.

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* Music/TheBeatles went this direction with ''Music/TheWhiteAlbum''. Though light, silly songs remained ("Back In The in the U.S.S.R", "Obi-La-Di, Obi-La-Da", "Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da", "Birthday") many songs on the album were quite dark, such as "Julia", about the death of John Lennon's mother, "Blackbird", about racism, and especially "Revolution 9", a nightmarish sound collage.



* The musical history of Music/PinkFloyd seems to have been one long slide from the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHRE5dyDKTA spacey, exploratory psychedelia]] of Music/SydBarrett, down into Roger Waters' descent into dark cynicism with ''Music/TheDarkSideOfTheMoon'' and ''Music/TheWall''. Waters' post-Pink Floyd solo work continues the trend.
* Compare the album "The Cheerful Insanity of Giles, Giles and Fripp" to anything that Music/KingCrimson's done, ever. The first King Crimson lineup ''was'' Giles, Giles and Fripp, plus Greg Lake and [=Ian McDonald=].
** Similarly, compare the album "From Genesis to Revelation" by Genesis to the track "The Knife", which was from the very next album.

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* The musical history of Music/PinkFloyd seems to have been one long slide from the [[http://www.[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHRE5dyDKTA spacey, exploratory psychedelia]] of Music/SydBarrett, down into Roger Waters' descent into dark cynicism with ''Music/TheDarkSideOfTheMoon'' and ''Music/TheWall''. Waters' post-Pink Floyd solo work continues the trend.
* Compare the album "The ''The Cheerful Insanity of Giles, Giles and Fripp" Fripp'' to anything that Music/KingCrimson's done, ever. The first King Crimson lineup ''was'' Giles, Giles and Fripp, plus Greg Lake and [=Ian McDonald=].
** Similarly, compare the album "From ''From Genesis to Revelation" Revelation'' by Genesis to the track "The Knife", which was from the very next album.



** Also compare "The Aerosol Grey Machine" with any of Music/VanDerGraafGenerator's subsequent output.

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** Also compare "The ''The Aerosol Grey Machine" Machine'' with any of Music/VanDerGraafGenerator's subsequent output.



* Winger was originally known for being a standard glam act with a pretty-boy frontman and musicians that were far above the rest of the pack, but their overly poppy leanings made them among the most frequent targets of ire from the anti-glam crowd, which wasn't helped by the ''relentless'' mockery they received on ''WesternAnimation/BeavisAndButthead''. 1993's ''Pull'' answered these criticisms with a shockingly dark and mature album that emphasized their technical ability while completely eliminating the poppiness of their earlier material. Unfortunately, it was too little, too late, and the album went unnoticed until the mid-00's glam revival.

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* Winger was originally known for being a standard glam act with a pretty-boy frontman front-man and musicians that were far above the rest of the pack, but their overly poppy leanings made them among the most frequent targets of ire from the anti-glam crowd, which wasn't helped by the ''relentless'' mockery they received on ''WesternAnimation/BeavisAndButthead''. 1993's ''Pull'' answered these criticisms with a shockingly dark and dark, mature album that emphasized their technical ability while completely eliminating the poppiness of their earlier material. Unfortunately, it was too little, too late, and the album went unnoticed until the mid-00's glam revival.



** And jazz musicians don't do this "occasionally" so much as ''constantly.'' Most of the standard repertoire that is required knowledge for jazz musicians is songs lifted from Broadway musicals of the '20s, '30s, and '40s. For example, of the six songs on Music/MilesDavis's 1956 ''Relaxin' With the Miles Davis Quintet,'' four are from musical theater or film ("If I Were a Bell," "You're My Everything," "I Could Write a Book," "It Could Happen to You").

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** And jazz musicians don't do this "occasionally" so much as ''constantly.'' ''constantly''. Most of the standard repertoire that is required knowledge for jazz musicians is songs lifted from Broadway musicals of the '20s, '30s, and '40s. For example, of the six songs on Music/MilesDavis's 1956 ''Relaxin' With the Miles Davis Quintet,'' Quintet'', four are from musical theater or film ("If I Were a Bell," "You're My Everything," "I Could Write a Book," "It Could Happen to You").



* Happened naturally to Music/MichaelJackson in the mid-90s. His 1991 album ''Music/{{Dangerous}}'' was, like his previous albums, a mix of standard pop and uplifting songs. His next album, ''Music/HistoryPastPresentAndFutureBookI'' (1995), came out following his 1993 child molestation allegations and ''it shows''. The album is filled with dark songs that exude paranoia and anger, dealing with topics like betrayal, media scrutiny, loneliness, and ''a song about a child dying from neglect''. It also has more swearing than any other Michael Jackson album, including the only instance of the word "fuck." Even the '''sole''' love song on the album, the R. Kelly-penned "You Are Not Alone", is a little bit of a downer because it is about separated lovers. Jackson's 2001 album ''Music/{{Invincible}}'' would retain some of the darker influences from this period though it would also be a bit of a return to form, with more upbeat, love/life-affirming songs compared to ''[=HIStory=]''.

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* Happened naturally to Music/MichaelJackson in the mid-90s. His 1991 album ''Music/{{Dangerous}}'' was, like his previous albums, a mix of standard pop and uplifting songs. His next album, ''Music/HistoryPastPresentAndFutureBookI'' (1995), came out following his 1993 child molestation allegations and ''it shows''. The album is filled with dark songs that exude paranoia and anger, dealing with topics like betrayal, media scrutiny, loneliness, and ''a song about a child dying from neglect''. It also has more swearing than any other Michael Jackson album, including the only instance of the word "fuck." "fuck". Even the '''sole''' love song on the album, the R. Kelly-penned "You Are Not Alone", is a little bit of a downer because it is about separated lovers. Jackson's 2001 album ''Music/{{Invincible}}'' would retain some of the darker influences from this period though it would also be a bit of a return to form, with more upbeat, love/life-affirming songs compared to ''[=HIStory=]''.



* Music/ManicStreetPreachers started off with a double album ''Generation Terrorists'', which had a political glam-punk sound inspired by Music/GunsNRoses. Their second album, ''Gold Against the Soul'', was more introspective compared to the first, while retaining the glam of their debut. Richey James Edwards, one of the band's songwriters, began to lose control and go on a downward spiral, resulting in the increasingly dark nature of his lyrics. This culminated with the grim, pessimistic atmosphere in the band's third album, ''The Holy Bible''. Just as the band was about to tour stateside to promote their third album, Richey disappeared (he would later be presumed dead). The band, reforming as a trio, recorded music that was LighterAndSofter, even though the band would occasionally release darker albums such as ''Know Your Enemy'' and ''Journal For Plague Lovers'' (which contained the last of Richey's lyrics).

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* Music/ManicStreetPreachers started off with a double album ''Generation Terrorists'', which had a political glam-punk sound inspired by Music/GunsNRoses. Their second album, ''Gold Against the Soul'', was more introspective compared to the first, while retaining the glam of their debut. Richey James Edwards, one of the band's songwriters, began to lose control and go on a downward spiral, resulting in the increasingly dark nature of his lyrics. This culminated with the grim, pessimistic atmosphere in the band's third album, ''The Holy Bible''. Just as the band was about to tour stateside to promote their third album, Richey disappeared (he would later be presumed dead). The band, reforming as a trio, recorded music that was LighterAndSofter, even though the band would occasionally release darker albums such as ''Know Your Enemy'' and ''Journal For for Plague Lovers'' (which contained the last of Richey's lyrics).



* Music/{{Gorillaz}} pulls a not-so subtle variation in their story canon, which started out as a zany and [[DarkComedy darkly humorous]] setup but got noticeably darker in the second and third phases. Party animal [[{{Jerkass}} Murdoc]] shifted sharply into a violent psychopath with the Music/PlasticBeach arc, (though this may be justified as an already twisted man being driven to desperate measures by greed.) In accordance, his [[VitriolicBestBuds relationship]] with 2D has changed in portrayal from [[AmusingInjuries comedic bullying]] to [[BreakTheCutie pretty abusive]], though it could always have come off this way [[FridgeHorror if you thought about it.]]
** And ironically, their musical style has become [[LightIsNotGood brighter and more polished,]] though certainly no softer in theme.

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* Music/{{Gorillaz}} pulls a not-so subtle not-so-subtle variation in their story canon, which started out as a zany and [[DarkComedy darkly humorous]] setup but got noticeably darker in the second and third phases. Party animal [[{{Jerkass}} Murdoc]] shifted sharply into a violent psychopath with the Music/PlasticBeach ''Music/PlasticBeach'' arc, (though this may be justified as an already twisted man being driven to desperate measures by greed.) In accordance, his [[VitriolicBestBuds relationship]] with 2D has changed in portrayal from [[AmusingInjuries comedic bullying]] to [[BreakTheCutie pretty abusive]], though it could always have come off this way [[FridgeHorror if you thought about it.]]
** And ironically, their musical style has become [[LightIsNotGood brighter and more polished,]] polished]], though certainly no softer in theme.



** The band's sophomore album ''Music/RideTheLightning'' is quite a bit darker than their debut "Kill 'Em All", shedding most of the youthfulness and camp of its predecessor in favor of songs centering around death and fate.
** "...And Justice for All" is arguably the darkest and most serious album Metallica has ever made, shedding pretty much all of the youthful rebellion of their first three records in favor of songs addressing serious topics like The Cold War ("Blackened"), spousal abuse ("Harvester Of Sorrow" - which is probably the darkest song the band has ever written), dementia ("Frayed Ends of Sanity"), and the death of bassist Cliff Burton ("To Live Is To Die").
** While the band certainly went in a LighterAndSofter direction with their music during the 1990s, "[=ReLoad=]" was decidedly darker and more sinister-sounding than the comparably upbeat "Black Album" and "Load".
** And in the 2000s, the band returned to the darkness of their 1980s material with "St. Anger" and "Death Magnetic".

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** The band's sophomore album ''Music/RideTheLightning'' is quite a bit darker than their debut "Kill ''Kill 'Em All", All'', shedding most of the youthfulness and camp of its predecessor in favor of songs centering around death and fate.
** "...''...And Justice for All" All'' is arguably the darkest and most serious album Metallica has ever made, shedding pretty much all of the youthful rebellion of their first three records in favor of songs addressing serious topics like The Cold War ("Blackened"), spousal abuse ("Harvester Of of Sorrow" - which is probably the darkest song the band has ever written), dementia ("Frayed Ends of Sanity"), and the death of bassist Cliff Burton ("To Live Is To to Die").
** While the band certainly went in a LighterAndSofter direction with their music during the 1990s, "[=ReLoad=]" ''[=ReLoad=]'' was decidedly darker and more sinister-sounding than the comparably upbeat "Black Album" ''Metallica'' and "Load".
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** And in the 2000s, the band returned to the darkness of their 1980s material with "St. Anger" ''St. Anger'' and "Death Magnetic".''Death Magnetic''.



* Music/{{Anthrax}} played this trope completely straight with ''Persistence Of Time.'' They continued with ''Sound Of White Noise,'' then gradually declined with the remaining three John Bush albums. Their newest album, ''Worship Music'', is an almost complete return to the campiness of the band's eighties albums.

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* Music/{{Anthrax}} played this trope completely straight with ''Persistence Of Time.'' of Time''. They continued with ''Sound Of of White Noise,'' Noise'', then gradually declined with the remaining three John Bush albums. Their newest album, ''Worship Music'', is an almost complete return to the campiness of the band's eighties albums.



* Music/DefLeppard's 1996 album ''Slang'' showcased a more organic, darker musical style and subject matter, fueled by [[CreatorBreakdown personal turmoil]] in the band members' lives, express themselves more honestly and by their willingness to experiment with new sounds and acknowledge the [[TheNineties 1990's]] AlternativeRock movement. It was their first album since their debut ''On Through The Night'' not to be produced by Creator/RobertJohnMuttLange.

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* Music/DefLeppard's 1996 album ''Slang'' showcased a more organic, darker musical style and subject matter, fueled by [[CreatorBreakdown personal turmoil]] in the band members' lives, express themselves more honestly and by their willingness to experiment with new sounds and acknowledge the [[TheNineties 1990's]] AlternativeRock movement. It was their first album since their debut ''On Through The the Night'' not to be produced by Creator/RobertJohnMuttLange.



* Future Perfect's third album, ''After The Fall'', took a darker turn from their first two albums, both instrumentally and lyrically; e.g. "Protect and Survive" is about [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt an impending nuclear strike on Britain]].

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* Future Perfect's third album, ''After The the Fall'', took a darker turn from their first two albums, both instrumentally and lyrically; e.g. "Protect and Survive" is about [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt an impending nuclear strike on Britain]].



* [[Creator/VincentPrice Vincent Price's]] 1977 cover version of light-hearted novelty song ''The Monster Mash'', which had a more sinister melody and also had the sound of a woman screaming near the end.

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* [[Creator/VincentPrice Vincent Price's]] Creator/VincentPrice's 1977 cover version of light-hearted novelty song ''The Monster Mash'', which had a more sinister melody and also had the sound of a woman screaming near the end.



* "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2oY-4TMOI0 Dio vi salvi Regina]]", Corsica's national anthem, is considered one of the saddest national anthems due to its tone and the lyrics. The one of the lines (In un mar di dolore, E d'amarezza) describes Corsica being surrounded by a "sea of pain and bitterness" which refers to the troubled past of the island.

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* "[[http://www."[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2oY-4TMOI0 Dio vi salvi Regina]]", Corsica's national anthem, is considered one of the saddest national anthems due to its tone and the lyrics. The one of the lines (In un mar di dolore, E d'amarezza) describes Corsica being surrounded by a "sea of pain and bitterness" which refers to the troubled past of the island.
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* Music/ATribeCalledQuest, the most well known AlternativeHipHop group suffered from this.
** The change was very gradual, starting from ''Music/TheLowEndTheory'''s more laid-back tone, more earthy soundscape, and slightly more realistic lyrics to Midnight Maurader's more confrontational and serious tones, Beats, Rhymes, And Life finally topped this off with excessive swearing, Dark beats, and realistic situations. It also watered-down its playful, surreal sound.

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* For Music/ATribeCalledQuest, the most well known AlternativeHipHop group suffered from this.
** The
change was very gradual, starting from ''Music/TheLowEndTheory'''s more laid-back tone, more earthy soundscape, and slightly more realistic lyrics to Midnight Maurader's more confrontational and serious tones, Beats, Rhymes, And Life finally topped this off with excessive swearing, Dark beats, and realistic situations. It also watered-down its playful, surreal sound.
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* By [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQbcYlraq_g the songs that have been]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLD3PDI41K8 revealed so far]], Future Perfect's upcoming third album, ''After The Fall'', appears to taking a darker turn from their first two albums, both instrumentally and lyrically; e.g. "Protect and Survive" is about [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt an impending nuclear strike on Britain]].

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* By [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQbcYlraq_g the songs that have been]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLD3PDI41K8 revealed so far]], Future Perfect's upcoming third album, ''After The Fall'', appears to taking took a darker turn from their first two albums, both instrumentally and lyrically; e.g. "Protect and Survive" is about [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt an impending nuclear strike on Britain]].
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* Music/{{Erasure}} went in this direction with ''World Be Gone'' (2017), which has a harder, angstier, almost Music/DepecheMode-esque vibe.
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* The entire genre of HipHop owes its current existence to this trope. Until the late-80's, the genre was dismissed as a passing fad by most music critics, due to its generally shallow/goofy lyrics and repetitive beats. But then, in 1988, two albums were released that would go on to legitimize hip hop as a relevant form of music: ''Music/ItTakesANationOfMillionsToHoldUsBack'' by Music/PublicEnemy and ''Music/StraightOuttaCompton'' by Music/{{NWA}}. The former featured biting political commentary, centered around the oppression of black culture in mainstream America. While the latter contained some of the most genuinely scathing lyrics ever heard in popular music up to that point (it was, in fact, one of the first albums to earn a "Parental Advisory" sticker). In the wake of those two albums, HipHop took on a much more serious and socially conscious tone, much to the delight of both critics and fans. A few years later, the genre of GangstaRap showed the world just how dark and edgy hip hop could be, cultivating in the real life deaths of rappers Music/TupacShakur and Music/TheNotoriousBIG. And then came the sub-genre known as {{Horrorcore}}. GangstaRap turned UpToEleven, with lyrics worthy of DeathMetal.

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* The entire genre of HipHop owes its current existence to this trope. Until the late-80's, the genre was dismissed as a passing fad by most music critics, due to its generally shallow/goofy lyrics and repetitive beats. But then, in 1988, two albums were released that would go on to legitimize hip hop as and make it a relevant form of music: ''Music/ItTakesANationOfMillionsToHoldUsBack'' by Music/PublicEnemy and ''Music/StraightOuttaCompton'' by Music/{{NWA}}. The former featured biting political commentary, centered around the oppression of black culture in mainstream America. While the latter contained some of the most genuinely scathing lyrics ever heard in popular music up to that point (it was, in fact, one of the first albums to earn a "Parental Advisory" sticker). In the wake of those two albums, HipHop took on a much more serious and socially conscious tone, much to the delight of both critics and fans. A few years later, the genre of GangstaRap showed the world just how dark and edgy hip hop could be, cultivating in the real life deaths of rappers Music/TupacShakur and Music/TheNotoriousBIG. And then came the sub-genre known as {{Horrorcore}}. GangstaRap turned UpToEleven, with lyrics worthy of DeathMetal.



* The musical history of Music/PinkFloyd seems to have been one long slide from the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHRE5dyDKTA spacey, exploratory psychedelia]] of Music/SydBarrett, down into Roger Waters' descent into dark, cynical {{Wangst}} with ''Music/TheDarkSideOfTheMoon'' and ''Music/TheWall''. Waters' post-Pink Floyd solo work continues the trend.

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* The musical history of Music/PinkFloyd seems to have been one long slide from the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHRE5dyDKTA spacey, exploratory psychedelia]] of Music/SydBarrett, down into Roger Waters' descent into dark, cynical {{Wangst}} dark cynicism with ''Music/TheDarkSideOfTheMoon'' and ''Music/TheWall''. Waters' post-Pink Floyd solo work continues the trend.



** This is a common theme with progressive bands that have their roots in the flower power 60's psychedelia days, as prog as a whole is generally much more {{serious|Business}}- Music/PinkFloyd being the UrExample.

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** This is a common theme with progressive bands that have their roots in the flower power 60's '60s psychedelia days, as prog as a whole is generally much more {{serious|Business}}- Music/PinkFloyd being the UrExample.



** But can you blame them? Rivers was [[CreatorBreakdown pretty beat up after having multiple surgeries to correct a minor bone deformity that he wrote the entire album with a bitter disposition]]. The entire album is themed around breaking up, it's hard to write upbeat songs about breakups.

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** But can you blame them? Rivers was [[CreatorBreakdown pretty beat up after having multiple surgeries to correct a minor bone deformity that he wrote the entire album with a bitter disposition]]. The entire whole album is themed around breaking up, up; it's hard to write upbeat songs about breakups.



** "...And Justice For All" is arguably the darkest and most serious album Metallica has ever made, shedding pretty much all of the youthful rebellion of their first three records in favor of songs addressing serious topics like The Cold War ("Blackened"), spousal abuse ("Harvester Of Sorrow" - which is probably the darkest song the band has ever written), dementia ("Frayed Ends Of Sanity"), and the death of bassist Cliff Burton ("To Live Is To Die").
** While the band certainly went in a LighterAndSofter direction with their music during the 90's, "[=ReLoad=]" was decidedly darker and more sinister-sounding than the comparably upbeat "Black Album" and "Load."
** And in the 2000's, the band returned to the darkness of their 80's material with "St. Anger" and "Death Magnetic".

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** "...And Justice For for All" is arguably the darkest and most serious album Metallica has ever made, shedding pretty much all of the youthful rebellion of their first three records in favor of songs addressing serious topics like The Cold War ("Blackened"), spousal abuse ("Harvester Of Sorrow" - which is probably the darkest song the band has ever written), dementia ("Frayed Ends Of of Sanity"), and the death of bassist Cliff Burton ("To Live Is To Die").
** While the band certainly went in a LighterAndSofter direction with their music during the 90's, 1990s, "[=ReLoad=]" was decidedly darker and more sinister-sounding than the comparably upbeat "Black Album" and "Load."
"Load".
** And in the 2000's, 2000s, the band returned to the darkness of their 80's 1980s material with "St. Anger" and "Death Magnetic".



* Metal band Music/{{Ill Nino}}'s fifth album ''Dead New World'' featured a much more aggressive sound than their previous works, with more frequent and angry harsh vocals (with the exception of a couple songs), louder production, heavier riffs, darker subject matter, and less Latin influence. And this is from the same band who put out an album 7 years earlier that was basically a slightly harder version of early Music/LinkinPark.

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* Metal band Music/{{Ill Nino}}'s Music/IllNino's fifth album ''Dead New World'' featured a much more aggressive sound than their previous works, with more frequent and angry harsh vocals (with the exception of a couple songs), louder production, heavier riffs, darker subject matter, and less Latin influence. And this is from the same band who put out an album 7 years earlier that was basically a slightly harder version of early Music/LinkinPark.



* [[Music/DefLeppard Def Leppard's]] 1996 album ''Slang'' showcased a more organic, darker musical style and subject matter, fueled by [[CreatorBreakdown personal turmoil]] in the band members' lives, express themselves more honestly and by their willingness to experiment with new sounds and acknowledge the [[TheNineties 1990's]] AlternativeRock movement. It was their first album since their debut ''On Through The Night'' not to be produced by Creator/RobertJohnMuttLange.
* When Music/FaithNoMore were quoted as saying "People are going to hate our new album" prior to the release of Angel Dust in 1992, they were ''not'' mincing words. Fans of the upbeat FunkMetal sound of ''The Real Thing'' were in for a shock to discover their much-anticipated follow-up to be filled with minor chords, DoomMetal riffs, circus and funeral organs, subject matter even more disturbing than before (third world starvation, [[{{Squick}} explicit gay sex]], [[DrugsAreBad drug-induced]] [[AxCrazy psychopathy]], and [[DrivenToSuicide what reads like a deranged man's suicide note]]), and MikePatton exchanging his nerdy [[AlternativeRock alt-rock]] vocals for a combination of gothic crooning and [[HarshVocals over-the-top screams]]. Also greeted with images of a slaughterhouse upon opening the album packaging.

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* [[Music/DefLeppard Def Leppard's]] Music/DefLeppard's 1996 album ''Slang'' showcased a more organic, darker musical style and subject matter, fueled by [[CreatorBreakdown personal turmoil]] in the band members' lives, express themselves more honestly and by their willingness to experiment with new sounds and acknowledge the [[TheNineties 1990's]] AlternativeRock movement. It was their first album since their debut ''On Through The Night'' not to be produced by Creator/RobertJohnMuttLange.
* When Music/FaithNoMore were quoted as saying "People are going to hate our new album" prior to the release of Angel Dust ''Angel Dust'' in 1992, they were ''not'' mincing words. Fans of the upbeat FunkMetal sound of ''The Real Thing'' were in for a shock to discover their much-anticipated follow-up to be filled with minor chords, DoomMetal riffs, circus and funeral organs, subject matter even more disturbing than before (third world starvation, [[{{Squick}} explicit gay sex]], [[DrugsAreBad drug-induced]] [[AxCrazy psychopathy]], and [[DrivenToSuicide what reads like a deranged man's suicide note]]), and MikePatton exchanging his nerdy [[AlternativeRock alt-rock]] vocals for a combination of gothic crooning and [[HarshVocals over-the-top screams]]. Also greeted with images of a slaughterhouse upon opening the album packaging.



* Of all the Seattle [[Main/{{Grunge}} grunge]]-era bands, Music/AliceInChains were this compared to the [[Music/{{Nirvana}} other]] [[Music/PearlJam three]] [[Music/{{Soundgarden}} bands]] from the "Big 4", with a lot of their music arguably qualifying as DoomMetal. But this trope even applies to the band's discography, as they got ''much'' heavier with each release; their predecessors Alice 'n' Chainz were pure GlamRock in the vein of Music/{{Poison}}. The first incarnation of the current Alice in Chains was GlamMetal in the vein of Music/GunsNRoses, and their debut album ''Facelift'' took it even further, with a much heavier sound clearly in HeavyMetal territory, but still very glam. The album that followed, 1992's ''Dirt'', was a far bigger transition, with the music being their first attempts at doom metal and the lyrics focused on war, death, depression and ''especially'' heroin addiction. Their 1995 self titled album took this trope UpToEleven, being easily one of the darkest, most depressing albums ever released into mainstream. The band's latest material, with Wiliam [=DuVall=] having replaced the late Layne Staley on vocals, has still kept the tradition going.
* More generally [[BoyBand Boy bands]], if they last more than a few years, will generally become frustrated with the limited TastesLikeDiabetes material they are spoon fed in their early career and want to pursue a more grown up sound with darker and more introspective lyrics and more aggressive instrumentation, sometimes played by themselves as they strive to prove they have genuine talent.

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* Of all the Seattle [[Main/{{Grunge}} grunge]]-era bands, Music/AliceInChains were this compared to the [[Music/{{Nirvana}} other]] [[Music/PearlJam three]] [[Music/{{Soundgarden}} bands]] from the "Big 4", with a lot of their music arguably qualifying as DoomMetal. But this trope even applies to the band's discography, as they got ''much'' heavier with each release; their predecessors Alice 'n' Chainz were pure GlamRock in the vein of Music/{{Poison}}. The first incarnation of the current Alice in Chains was GlamMetal in the vein of Music/GunsNRoses, and their debut album ''Facelift'' took it even further, with a much heavier sound clearly in HeavyMetal territory, but still very glam. The album that followed, 1992's ''Dirt'', was a far bigger transition, with the music being their first attempts at doom metal and the lyrics focused on war, death, depression depression, and ''especially'' heroin addiction. Their 1995 self titled album took this trope UpToEleven, being easily one of the darkest, most depressing albums ever released into mainstream. The band's latest material, with Wiliam [=DuVall=] having replaced the late Layne Staley on vocals, has still kept the tradition going.
* More generally [[BoyBand Boy bands]], {{boy band}}s, if they last more than a few years, will generally become frustrated with the limited TastesLikeDiabetes material they are spoon fed spoon-fed in their early career and want to pursue a more grown up sound with darker and more introspective lyrics and more aggressive instrumentation, sometimes played by themselves as they strive to prove they have genuine talent.
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