History DarkIsNotEvil / MythologyAndReligion

22nd Oct '17 11:35:32 AM Carliro
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* Ereshkigal is the ruler of the underworld in ''Myth/MesopotamianMythology'', a place of darkness and dust. However, in ''Literature/InannasDescentToTheNetherworld'' she weeps for the dead and feels sorry about their plights.
7th Jun '17 2:27:23 PM MasterFuzzy
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* In pre-Christian Jewish mythology, Satan himself embodied this trope. The original Satan was not a "fallen angel," but a prosecuting angel. During the Days of Awe and on Yom Kippur (the Day of Repentance), his job was to prove to God that humanity was too sinful to continue to survive, while the humans' job was to acknowledge and repent of all their sins so that God would forgive them. Therefore Satan wasn't actually evil - he was JustDoingMyJob. Although, as time went on, his character became embellished with stories of his deliberately ''tempting'' humans into sin to gather evidence against them, and over time he gained a reputation as a shady business dealer, which eventually got him conflated with the Devil.

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* In pre-Christian Jewish mythology, Satan himself embodied embodies this trope. The original Satan was is not a "fallen angel," but a prosecuting angel. During the Days of Awe and on Yom Kippur (the Day of Repentance), his job was is to prove to God that humanity was is too sinful to continue to survive, while the humans' job was is to acknowledge and repent of all their sins so that God would forgive them. Therefore Satan wasn't isn't actually evil - he was is JustDoingMyJob. Although, as time went on, his character became embellished with stories of his deliberately ''tempting'' humans into sin to gather evidence against them, and over time he gained a reputation as a shady business dealer, which eventually got him conflated with the Devil. Many Jews today still see him as more of a prosecuting attorney in the Divine Court than a bad guy.
6th Jan '17 8:32:02 AM SeptimusHeap
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** Shiva as well: although he's a god of destruction, he's also a god of fertility (this is why his symbol is the distinctly [[FreudWasRight phallic]] ''lingam'' is his symbol. As ''Shiv and the Grasshopper'' (''Literature/TheSecondJungleBook'') says:

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** Shiva as well: although he's a god of destruction, he's also a god of fertility (this is why his symbol is the distinctly [[FreudWasRight phallic]] phallic ''lingam'' is his symbol. As ''Shiv and the Grasshopper'' (''Literature/TheSecondJungleBook'') says:
30th Dec '16 12:55:33 PM elfey
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** The terms Seelie and Unseelie divide the Fey into two sides, one of summer and light, one of winter and darkness. But the Seelie might be pranksters who are happy tormenting people, while the Unseelie may view favorite people as pets to protect from harm.
5th Oct '16 10:02:04 PM PlanetEatingWarlord
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** Chinese superstitions also see bats as symbols of good fortune. (Mainly because the Chinese word for "bat" sounds identical to the Chinese word for "fortune")
** Averted with owls, which are seen by the Chinese as harbingers of death.
24th Aug '16 4:49:59 AM lampshadeortriangle
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* In pre-Christian Jewish mythology, Satan himself embodied this trope. The original Satan was not a "fallen angel," but a prosecuting angel. During the Days of Awe and on Yom Kippur (the Day of Repentance), his job was to prove to God that humanity was too sinful to continue to survive, while the humans' job was to acknowledge and repent of all their sins so that God would forgive them. Therefore Satan wasn't actually evil - he was JustDoingMyJob. Although, as time went on, his character became embellished with stories of his deliberately ''tempting'' humans into sin to gather evidence against them, and over time he gained a reputation as a shady business dealer, which eventually got him conflated with the Devil.
27th Feb '16 7:52:00 AM Ciabella
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** Hades. Even though he is [[EverybodyHatesHades portrayed as a Satan analogue]] nowadays, in the original myths he was described as grim and stern, but not evil. Ancient Greeks were wary him more because of the natural fear of death and unknown, rather than him being particularly malicious. Hades was actually one of the few gods that didn't harm mankind directly, even proving willing to work with people, who ventured into his kingdom demanding something from him. He was also the giver of earthly wealth - both precious stones and metals and seeds. The worst thing he ever did was kidnap Persephone.
*** And even then, he only ever kidnapped one girl, and he immediately married her. Compared to the exploits of his brothers Zeus and Poseidon...

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** Hades. Even though he is [[EverybodyHatesHades portrayed as a Satan analogue]] nowadays, in the original myths he was described as grim and stern, but not evil. Ancient Greeks were wary him more because of the natural fear of death and unknown, rather than him being particularly malicious. Hades was actually one of the few gods that didn't harm mankind directly, even proving willing to work with people, who ventured into his kingdom demanding something from him. He was also the giver of earthly wealth - both precious stones and metals and seeds. The worst thing he ever did was kidnap Persephone.
*** And even then, he only ever kidnapped one girl, and he immediately married her. Compared
Persephone, which is rather insignificant compared to the exploits of his brothers Zeus and Poseidon...brothers.
26th Oct '15 8:14:45 AM Steinman77
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** Even Rakshasa and other demons - who usually ''are'' pretty nasty, it's true - are capable of reforming, or at least working with gods and humans on occasion. What's more, their evil doesn't tend to be anything special compared to human evil. The scale may be grander, but in the end, they're brutish thugs and tyrannical conquerors, not destroyers of worlds or stealers of souls.
7th Sep '15 4:56:16 PM imadmagician
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** Often, it should be noted, due to age and windows not being cleaned. Clean stained glass dims light but does not dull it-one of the major reasons people began to use stained glass was to make churches more aesthetically pleasing. Which arguably makes it an even bigger subversion-darkening ordinary light precisely to make it and the space it fills holier and more beautiful.
*** And now the trope gets inverted again once you realize the above statement implies that "holier" and "more beautiful" is the same as being not evil.

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** Often, it It should be noted, due noted (due to age and the windows not being cleaned. cleaned) that Clean stained glass dims light but does not dull it-one it. One of the major reasons people began to use stained glass was to make churches more aesthetically pleasing. Which arguably makes it an even bigger subversion-darkening pleasing; In other words, they darken ordinary light precisely to make it and the sacred space it fills holier and more beautiful.
*** And now the trope gets inverted again once you realize the above statement implies that "holier" and "more beautiful" is the same as being not evil.
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* Hell, as defined in ''Literature/TheBible'', isn't Satan's base of operations. Rather, it's the place for eternal punishment against all who ever sinned against God,''including'' Satan and his fellow demons. If anything, Hell would be ran by God himself and his angels, not by demons as with the very common misconception of Hell.

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* Hell, as defined in ''Literature/TheBible'', isn't Satan's base of operations. Rather, it's the place for eternal punishment against all who ever sinned against God,''including'' Satan and his fellow demons. If anything, Hell would be ran by God himself and his angels, not by demons as with the very common misconception of Hell.Hell - though it is a Place for Punishment rather than a non-evil being.
17th Jun '15 8:31:52 AM Leguim_Mai
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** Hades. Even though he is [[EverybodyHatesHades portrayed as a Satan analogue]] nowadays, in the original myths he was described as grim and stern, but not evil. Ancient Greeks were wary him more because of the natural fear of death and unknown, rather than him being particularly malicious. Hades was actually one of the few gods that didn't harm mankind directly, even proving willing to work with people, who ventured into his kingdom demanding something from him. He was also the giver of earthly wealth - both precious stones and metals and seeds. The worst thing he ever did was kidnap Persephone.

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** Hades. Even though he is [[EverybodyHatesHades portrayed as a Satan analogue]] nowadays, in the original myths he was described as grim and stern, but not evil. Ancient Greeks were wary him more because of the natural fear of death and unknown, rather than him being particularly malicious. Hades was actually one of the few gods that didn't harm mankind directly, even proving willing to work with people, who ventured into his kingdom demanding something from him. He was also the giver of earthly wealth - both precious stones and metals and seeds. The worst thing he ever did was kidnap Persephone. Persephone.
***And even then, he only ever kidnapped one girl, and he immediately married her. Compared to the exploits of his brothers Zeus and Poseidon...
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