History DarkIsNotEvil / Music

16th Jun '15 11:22:24 PM DavidDelony
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* ChristianMetal in particular is this in the eyes of its fans. Dark music that is usually regarded as a thoroughly secular style doesn't have to be.

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* ChristianMetal in particular is this in the eyes of its fans. Dark music that is usually regarded as a thoroughly secular style doesn't have to be.be.
* Most {{Goth}} music qualifies as well. There's a reason the PerkyGoth trope exists.
1st Jun '15 7:25:50 PM Kalmbach
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* [[PersonWithTheClothing The Man in Black]] himself, JohnnyCash, wore black in tribute to the suffering of others.
30th Mar '15 1:42:13 AM shamgar001
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* In fact, a lot of metal that ''doesn't'' rely on EvilIsCool could be looked at this way, as it tends to employ darker artwork and subject matter but [[MeanCharacterNiceActor the band members themselves are often still perfectly decent people]], or at least are no more likely to be evil than any other type of artist.

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* In fact, a lot of metal that ''doesn't'' rely on EvilIsCool could be looked at this way, as it tends to employ darker artwork and subject matter but [[MeanCharacterNiceActor the band members themselves are often still perfectly decent people]], or at least are no more likely to be evil than any other type of artist.artist.
* ChristianMetal in particular is this in the eyes of its fans. Dark music that is usually regarded as a thoroughly secular style doesn't have to be.
6th Oct '14 12:14:27 PM m8e
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* A good portion of Music/BlackMetal is this, though a good portion says that DarkIsEvil and EvilIsCool.

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* A good portion of Music/BlackMetal BlackMetal is this, though a good portion says that DarkIsEvil and EvilIsCool.
2nd Oct '14 4:10:14 AM 2writeis2life
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* A good portion of Music/BlackMetal is this, though a good portion says that DarkIsEvil and EvilIsCool.

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* A good portion of Music/BlackMetal is this, though a good portion says that DarkIsEvil and EvilIsCool.EvilIsCool.
* In fact, a lot of metal that ''doesn't'' rely on EvilIsCool could be looked at this way, as it tends to employ darker artwork and subject matter but [[MeanCharacterNiceActor the band members themselves are often still perfectly decent people]], or at least are no more likely to be evil than any other type of artist.
25th Aug '14 1:33:17 AM hagagaga
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* The general message of MarilynManson is half this, half LightIsNotGood. Even the original ThemeNaming was about this. The first half of the names was taken from a female sex symbol, and the second half from a convicted murderer. As Marilyn Manson himself said, Marilyn Monroe had bad qualities about her, and Charles Manson has good ones about him (environmentalism, for example). We see only the badness in people we're told are bad, and only the good in people we're told are good. Much of the band's songs and videos highlight these subjects, ranging from the video for Dope Hat's [[UpToEleven even darker]] take on ''Film/WillyWonkaAndTheChocolateFactory'''s boat scene, to Coma White, a song about suicide by OD, to the entire character of Omega (pronounced oh-me-ga) from Mechanical Animals, who is completely white as paper besides for his hair and makeup (and sometimes even his hair is white), but is a dead inside [[ShoutOut rock star]] [[DavidBowie androgynous space alien]]. TheUnseen, Alpha (also called Mar1lyn Man5on due to Manson's obsession with [[ArcNumber 15]]), meanwhile, is a hopeless romantic, who is the other protagonist of the album and sings the emotional songs on it. Manson himself, although dressing in all black most of the time, and covered in tattoos, is an intelligent, DeadpanSnarker who often shows that, despite his shocking image, is actually extremely laid back. His closest love in the world is his pet cat, Lily White, who he considers his child.

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* The general message of MarilynManson is half this, half LightIsNotGood. Even the original ThemeNaming was about this. The first half of the names was taken from a female sex symbol, and the second half from a convicted murderer. As Marilyn Manson himself said, Marilyn Monroe had bad qualities about her, and Charles Manson has good ones about him (environmentalism, for example). We see only the badness in people we're told are bad, and only the good in people we're told are good. Much of the band's songs and videos highlight these subjects, ranging from the video for Dope Hat's [[UpToEleven even darker]] take on ''Film/WillyWonkaAndTheChocolateFactory'''s boat scene, to Coma White, a song about suicide by OD, to the entire character of Omega (pronounced oh-me-ga) from Mechanical Animals, who is completely white as paper besides for his hair and makeup (and sometimes even his hair is white), but is a dead inside [[ShoutOut rock star]] [[DavidBowie androgynous space alien]]. TheUnseen, Alpha (also called Mar1lyn Man5on due to Manson's obsession with [[ArcNumber 15]]), meanwhile, is a hopeless romantic, who is the other protagonist of the album and sings the emotional songs on it. Manson himself, although dressing in all black most of the time, and covered in tattoos, is an intelligent, DeadpanSnarker who often shows that, despite his shocking image, is actually extremely laid back. His closest love in the world is his pet cat, Lily White, who he considers his child.child.
* A good portion of Music/BlackMetal is this, though a good portion says that DarkIsEvil and EvilIsCool.
24th Aug '14 12:28:26 PM Sapphirea2
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* The general message of MarilynManson is half this, half LightIsNotGood. Even the original ThemeNaming was about this. The first half of the names was taken from a female sex symbol, and the second half from a convicted murderer. As Marilyn Manson himself said, Marilyn Monroe had bad qualities about her, and Charles Manson has good ones about him (environmentalism, for example). We see only the badness in people we're told are bad, and only the good in people we're told are good. Much of the band's songs and videos highlight these subjects, ranging from the video for Dope Hat's [[UpToEleven even darker]] take on WillyWonkaAndTheChocolateFactory's boat scene, to Coma White, a song about suicide by OD, to the entire character of Omega (pronounced oh-me-ga) from Mechanical Animals, who is completely white as paper besides for his hair and makeup (and sometimes even his hair is white), but is a dead inside [[ShoutOut rock star]] [[DavidBowie androgynous space alien]]. TheUnseen, Alpha (also called Mar1lyn Man5on due to Manson's obsession with [[ArcNumber 15]]), meanwhile, is a hopeless romantic, who is the other protagonist of the album and sings the emotional songs on it. Manson himself, although dressing in all black most of the time, and covered in tattoos, is an intelligent, DeadpanSnarker who often shows that, despite his shocking image, is actually extremely laid back. His closest love in the world is his pet cat, Lily White, who he considers his child.

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* The general message of MarilynManson is half this, half LightIsNotGood. Even the original ThemeNaming was about this. The first half of the names was taken from a female sex symbol, and the second half from a convicted murderer. As Marilyn Manson himself said, Marilyn Monroe had bad qualities about her, and Charles Manson has good ones about him (environmentalism, for example). We see only the badness in people we're told are bad, and only the good in people we're told are good. Much of the band's songs and videos highlight these subjects, ranging from the video for Dope Hat's [[UpToEleven even darker]] take on WillyWonkaAndTheChocolateFactory's ''Film/WillyWonkaAndTheChocolateFactory'''s boat scene, to Coma White, a song about suicide by OD, to the entire character of Omega (pronounced oh-me-ga) from Mechanical Animals, who is completely white as paper besides for his hair and makeup (and sometimes even his hair is white), but is a dead inside [[ShoutOut rock star]] [[DavidBowie androgynous space alien]]. TheUnseen, Alpha (also called Mar1lyn Man5on due to Manson's obsession with [[ArcNumber 15]]), meanwhile, is a hopeless romantic, who is the other protagonist of the album and sings the emotional songs on it. Manson himself, although dressing in all black most of the time, and covered in tattoos, is an intelligent, DeadpanSnarker who often shows that, despite his shocking image, is actually extremely laid back. His closest love in the world is his pet cat, Lily White, who he considers his child.
15th Aug '14 1:04:41 PM ChaoticNovelist
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* The general message of MarilynManson is half this, half LightIsNotGood. Even the original ThemeNaming was about this. The first half of the names was taken from a female sex symbol, and the second half from a convicted murderer. As Marilyn Manson himself said, Marilyn Monroe had bad qualities about her, and Charles Manson has good ones about him (environmentalism, for example). We see only the badness in people we're told are bad, and only the good in people we're told are good. Much of the band's songs and videos highlight these subjects, ranging from the video for Dope Hat's [[BeyondTheImpossible even darker]] take on WillyWonkaAndTheChocolateFactory's boat scene, to Coma White, a song about suicide by OD, to the entire character of Omega (pronounced oh-me-ga) from Mechanical Animals, who is completely white as paper besides for his hair and makeup (and sometimes even his hair is white), but is a dead inside [[ShoutOut rock star]] [[DavidBowie androgynous space alien]]. TheUnseen, Alpha (also called Mar1lyn Man5on due to Manson's obsession with [[ArcNumber 15]]), meanwhile, is a hopeless romantic, who is the other protagonist of the album and sings the emotional songs on it. Manson himself, although dressing in all black most of the time, and covered in tattoos, is an intelligent, DeadpanSnarker who often shows that, despite his shocking image, is actually extremely laid back. His closest love in the world is his pet cat, Lily White, who he considers his child.

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* The general message of MarilynManson is half this, half LightIsNotGood. Even the original ThemeNaming was about this. The first half of the names was taken from a female sex symbol, and the second half from a convicted murderer. As Marilyn Manson himself said, Marilyn Monroe had bad qualities about her, and Charles Manson has good ones about him (environmentalism, for example). We see only the badness in people we're told are bad, and only the good in people we're told are good. Much of the band's songs and videos highlight these subjects, ranging from the video for Dope Hat's [[BeyondTheImpossible [[UpToEleven even darker]] take on WillyWonkaAndTheChocolateFactory's boat scene, to Coma White, a song about suicide by OD, to the entire character of Omega (pronounced oh-me-ga) from Mechanical Animals, who is completely white as paper besides for his hair and makeup (and sometimes even his hair is white), but is a dead inside [[ShoutOut rock star]] [[DavidBowie androgynous space alien]]. TheUnseen, Alpha (also called Mar1lyn Man5on due to Manson's obsession with [[ArcNumber 15]]), meanwhile, is a hopeless romantic, who is the other protagonist of the album and sings the emotional songs on it. Manson himself, although dressing in all black most of the time, and covered in tattoos, is an intelligent, DeadpanSnarker who often shows that, despite his shocking image, is actually extremely laid back. His closest love in the world is his pet cat, Lily White, who he considers his child.
13th Aug '14 10:16:59 PM Watergirl909
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* The Standells' "Sometimes Good Guys (Don't Wear White)"

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* The Standells' "Sometimes Good Guys (Don't Wear White)"White)"
* The general message of MarilynManson is half this, half LightIsNotGood. Even the original ThemeNaming was about this. The first half of the names was taken from a female sex symbol, and the second half from a convicted murderer. As Marilyn Manson himself said, Marilyn Monroe had bad qualities about her, and Charles Manson has good ones about him (environmentalism, for example). We see only the badness in people we're told are bad, and only the good in people we're told are good. Much of the band's songs and videos highlight these subjects, ranging from the video for Dope Hat's [[BeyondTheImpossible even darker]] take on WillyWonkaAndTheChocolateFactory's boat scene, to Coma White, a song about suicide by OD, to the entire character of Omega (pronounced oh-me-ga) from Mechanical Animals, who is completely white as paper besides for his hair and makeup (and sometimes even his hair is white), but is a dead inside [[ShoutOut rock star]] [[DavidBowie androgynous space alien]]. TheUnseen, Alpha (also called Mar1lyn Man5on due to Manson's obsession with [[ArcNumber 15]]), meanwhile, is a hopeless romantic, who is the other protagonist of the album and sings the emotional songs on it. Manson himself, although dressing in all black most of the time, and covered in tattoos, is an intelligent, DeadpanSnarker who often shows that, despite his shocking image, is actually extremely laid back. His closest love in the world is his pet cat, Lily White, who he considers his child.
23rd Dec '13 3:26:05 PM 313Bluestreak
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* The {{Music/Disturbed}} song "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbGlhVHvBkU 3]]" (which is BasedOnATrueStory) is about three boys [[MiscarriageOfJustice who were falsely accused of murder]] just because they [[{{Goth}} wore dark clothes]]. Also a case of LightIsNotGood.
->''I was a boy who had to live his own way / I never fit into the model they had designed''
->''I chose a path less taken... / I stood with others who had often felt the same''
->''We got stares from passersby / Our dark attire seemed to frighten people away''
->''And when three young boys died / They pointed fingers and entangled us in a lie!''

** This also seems to be the theme of the chorus to "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyctTU_0FiM The Night]]":
->''There can be no better way of knowing / In a world beyond controlling''
->''Are you going to deny the savior / In front of your eyes?''
->''Stare into the night / Power beyond containing''
->''Are you going to remain a slave for / The rest of your life?''
->''Give into the night''

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* The {{Music/Disturbed}} song "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbGlhVHvBkU 3]]" (which is BasedOnATrueStory) is about three boys [[MiscarriageOfJustice who were falsely accused of murder]] just because they [[{{Goth}} wore dark clothes]]. Also a case of LightIsNotGood.
->''I
LightIsNotGood:
-->''I
was a boy who had to live his own way / I never fit into the model they had designed''
->''I
designed''\\
''I
chose a path less taken... / I stood with others who had often felt the same''
->''We
same''\\
''We
got stares from passersby / Our dark attire seemed to frighten people away''
->''And
away''\\
''And
when three young boys died / They pointed fingers and entangled us in a lie!''

** This
lie!''
**This
also seems to be the theme of the chorus to "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyctTU_0FiM The Night]]":
->''There --->''There can be no better way of knowing / In a world beyond controlling''
->''Are
controlling''\\
''Are
you going to deny the savior / In front of your eyes?''
->''Stare
eyes?''\\
''Stare
into the night / Power beyond containing''
->''Are
containing''\\
''Are
you going to remain a slave for / The rest of your life?''
->''Give
life?''\\
''Give
into the night''
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