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1st Feb '18 9:18:33 AM TheMountainKing
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** This one was simply insulting: Brown portrayed the Spanish health care system as useless and incompetent; in fact, it is ranked 7th in the World by the WHO (for comparison, the USA's is 37th). Although the WHO bases healthcare only out-of-pocket costs and availability while ignoring important factors like quality, efficiency, medical innovation and the taxes required to pay for socialized healthcare, thus making it a rather null study by the WHO.

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** This one was simply insulting: Brown portrayed the Spanish health care system as useless and incompetent; in fact, it is ranked 7th in the World by the WHO (for comparison, the USA's is 37th). Although the WHO bases healthcare only out-of-pocket costs and availability while ignoring important factors like quality, efficiency, medical innovation and the taxes required to pay for socialized healthcare, thus making it a rather null study by the WHO.
20th Jan '18 1:28:25 PM MBG159
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** This is the Vatican were talking about here, they can afford it if they want.
20th Jan '18 2:19:20 AM xoriak
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* Misquoting Robert Oppenheimer as saying "I have become Vishnu, destroyer of worlds". Actual quote: "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." Vishnu is the Preserver; if he were to invoke a Hindu god, Śiva the Destroyer would be more appropriate.''[[AC: [[http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Robert_Oppenheimer Wikiquote on this]]]]''

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* Misquoting Robert Oppenheimer as saying saying, "I have become Vishnu, destroyer of worlds". Actual quote: worlds." While the original line from the ''Literature/BhagavadGita'' ''was'' spoken by Krishna, an avatar of Vishnu, the actual quote was, "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." Vishnu is the Preserver; if he were to invoke a Hindu god, Śiva the Destroyer would be more appropriate.''[[AC: "''[[AC: [[http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Robert_Oppenheimer Wikiquote on this]]]]''
18th Jan '18 11:40:11 AM Skagit
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* Perhaps most baffling is the claim that the Christian ritual of Communion was borrowed from the Aztecs. The Aztecs did have a similar practice, but it it was only done by elites and anyone who's familiar with the Gospels would know that Communion predates the Aztecs by over 1000 years. Besides, there's a ton of art depicting Communion produced before 1492,
27th Dec '17 2:06:41 PM Bissek
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* While there is a World Health Organization, it is nothing like it is portrayed the book. The RL head of the WHO at the time wrote a review of Inferno that boiled down to "I wish I had half the funding and influence that Dan Brown thinks I do."
6th Dec '17 10:56:58 AM Cieloazul
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* What about that ''monk'' from Opus Dei? Opus Dei was specifically founded for people who live "in the world"? (In other words, people who ''aren't'' members of religious orders. An Opus Dei monk would be literally an OxymoronicBeing. They do however have numenaries, i.e. celibate members who outsiders might think are monks. Dan Brown has them mentioned in the book-perhaps he was confused.)

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* What about that ''monk'' from Opus Dei? Opus Dei was specifically founded for people who live "in the world"? (In world", in other words, people who ''aren't'' members of religious orders. An Opus Dei monk would be literally an OxymoronicBeing. They (They do however have numenaries, i.e. numeraries, that is, celibate members who outsiders whose concept might think are look like monks to outsiders, but not literal monks. Oddly, Dan Brown has them mentioned mentions numeraries in the book-perhaps book, meaning he was confused.managed to confuse even a notion that should dispel this very confusion.)



* Brown cites the [[UsefulNotes/{{Gnosticism}} Gospel of Philip]] as saying that Jesus and Mary Magdalene were married. The text actually says no such thing; while it does say Mary Magdalene had special insight into Jesus's teachings and she is referred to as Jesus's 'companion', this is actually a very wide term and it does not necessarily imply a sexual relationship. [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Philip Wikipedia]] The Gnostics were also ''against'' such relationships, advocating celibacy even more than mainstream Christians, to the point of some ''banning'' marriage.

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* Brown cites the [[UsefulNotes/{{Gnosticism}} Gnostic Gospel of Philip]] as saying that Jesus and Mary Magdalene were married. The text actually says no such thing; while it does say Mary Magdalene had special insight into Jesus's teachings and she is referred to as Jesus's 'companion', "companion", this is actually a very wide term and it does not necessarily imply a sexual relationship. [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Philip Wikipedia]] The Interestingly, Gnostics were also extremely ''against'' such relationships, advocating carnal relationships and advocated celibacy even more than mainstream Christians, sometimes to the point extent of some ''banning'' marriage.banning marriage and/or breeding altogether. While Gnostics would have been okay with Jesus having a (non-sexual) romantic relationship, the idea of Jesus producing offspring would have been actually much more offensive to them than it is to Catholicism.
23rd Nov '17 5:39:57 AM Fireblood
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* What about that ''monk'' from Opus Dei? Opus Dei was specifically founded for people who live "in the world"? (In other words, people who ''aren't'' members of religious orders. An Opus Dei monk would be literally a OxymoronicBeing.)

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* What about that ''monk'' from Opus Dei? Opus Dei was specifically founded for people who live "in the world"? (In other words, people who ''aren't'' members of religious orders. An Opus Dei monk would be literally a OxymoronicBeing.an OxymoronicBeing. They do however have numenaries, i.e. celibate members who outsiders might think are monks. Dan Brown has them mentioned in the book-perhaps he was confused.)



* Brown is also responsible for a false meme which has spread throughout popular culture: that the 325 Council of Nicaea "set" the Biblical canon, the books which are considered official scripture (according to Brown, thereby suppressing those Gospels that contained the "truth" about Jesus' descendants yadda yadda yadda). In fact, Nicaea had ''absolutely nothing'' to say about the canon; on the one hand the four Gospels had been agreed upon as the only legitimate ones as early as 175 and the other 23 books were universally recognized by the mid-3rd century.[[note]] In the Latin West; it was another two centuries before the Eastern Church recognized Revelation[[/note]] on the other hand no Council officially decreed the canon as set until that of Trent in 1546 -- ''after Leonardo's death.''
* Brown cites the [[UsefulNotes/{{Gnosticism}} Gospel of Philip]] as saying that Jesus and Mary Magdalene were married. The text actually says no such thing; while it does say Mary Magdalene had special insight into Jesus's teachings and she is referred to as Jesus's 'companion', this is actually a very wide term and it does not necessarily imply a sexual relationship. [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Philip Wikipedia]]

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* Brown is also responsible for a false meme which has spread throughout popular culture: that the 325 Council of Nicaea "set" the Biblical canon, the books which are considered official scripture (according to Brown, thereby suppressing those Gospels that contained the "truth" about Jesus' descendants yadda yadda yadda). In fact, Nicaea had ''absolutely nothing'' to say about the canon; on the one hand the four Gospels had been agreed upon as the only legitimate ones as early as 175 and the other 23 books were universally recognized by the mid-3rd century.[[note]] In [[note]]In the Latin West; it was another two centuries before the Eastern Church recognized Revelation[[/note]] on the other hand no Council officially decreed the canon as set until that of Trent in 1546 -- ''after Leonardo's death.''
* Brown cites the [[UsefulNotes/{{Gnosticism}} Gospel of Philip]] as saying that Jesus and Mary Magdalene were married. The text actually says no such thing; while it does say Mary Magdalene had special insight into Jesus's teachings and she is referred to as Jesus's 'companion', this is actually a very wide term and it does not necessarily imply a sexual relationship. [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Philip Wikipedia]]Wikipedia]] The Gnostics were also ''against'' such relationships, advocating celibacy even more than mainstream Christians, to the point of some ''banning'' marriage.



* Teabing and Langdon explain that English is the preferred mode of communication by the Priory of Sion as it is the "Lingua Pura", the pure tongue, the only European language unadulterated by the Papist Latin. While there really is no European language that was not influenced by Latin to some degree, the choice of English is ''particularly'' stupid. While it is a Germanic language (as opposed to Latin, which is in, and the origin of most of, the Romance language family), it has borrowed heavily from French (a Latin-derived language) due to the Norman Conquest, and later from Latin directly during the Renaissance. There is really no reason for the Priory to communicate in English when there are so many other languages that fit the criteria better like Russian, Turkish, Arabic, Hebrew, or Greek (all of which Renaissance scholars, but obviously not Brown, were very familiar with, particularly Arabic,[[note]]from the thriving Italian trade with the Middle East[[/note]] Hebrew,[[note]]from Biblical study[[/note]] and most especially Greek[[note]]from Biblical and Classical studies[[/note]]). '''The Real History Behind the Da Vinci Code'''

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* Teabing and Langdon explain that English is the preferred mode of communication by the Priory of Sion as it is the "Lingua Pura", the pure tongue, the only European language unadulterated by the Papist Latin. While there really is no European language that was not influenced by Latin to some degree, the choice of English is ''particularly'' stupid. While it is a Germanic language (as opposed to Latin, which is in, and the origin of most of, the Romance language family), it has borrowed heavily from French (a Latin-derived language) due to the Norman Conquest, and later from Latin directly during the Renaissance. There is really no reason for the Priory to communicate in English when there are so many other languages that fit the criteria better like Russian, Turkish, Arabic, Hebrew, or Greek (all of which Renaissance scholars, but obviously not Brown, were very familiar with, particularly Arabic,[[note]]from Arabic,[[note]]From the thriving Italian trade with the Middle East[[/note]] Hebrew,[[note]]from Hebrew,[[note]]From Biblical study[[/note]] and most especially Greek[[note]]from Greek[[note]]From Biblical and Classical studies[[/note]]). '''The Real History Behind the Da Vinci Code'''



* According to the book the Dead Sea Scrolls contain Christian gospel. In reality, they were created by the Essenes sect of Jews and don't contain any gospels. ''[[AC: [[http://oi.uchicago.edu/pdf/jerusalem_origin_dss.pdf University of Chicago]]]]''
* Brown describes a nefarious Vatican conspiracy to hide the truth of the Dead Sea Scrolls from the world. This would be quite a feat, since the Dead Sea Scrolls have never been under the control of the Vatican in the first place.

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* According to the book the Dead Sea Scrolls contain Christian gospel.gospels. In reality, they were created by the Essenes sect of Jews and don't contain any gospels. ''[[AC: [[http://oi.uchicago.edu/pdf/jerusalem_origin_dss.pdf University of Chicago]]]]''
* Brown describes a nefarious Vatican conspiracy to hide the truth of the Dead Sea Scrolls from the world. This would be quite a feat, since the Dead Sea Scrolls have never been under the control of the Vatican in the first place.place (and were published with no opposition from them whatever).
17th Nov '17 11:33:29 AM RA0808
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* NASA sets up a huge camp in Ellesmere Island and does all its business unhindered. Not only is Ellesmere Island part of Canada, who would presumably also want to take part in this, they already have a base there: [[AC:[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CFS_Alert Canadian Forces Station Alert (Wikipedia)]]]].
** Not to mention that CFS Alert is a '''military signals intelligence intercept facility''' run jointly by the Canadian military's intelligence division and CSEC (the Canadian equivalent of the NSA) [[AC:[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_Security_Establishment_Canada#Signal_intelligence Wikipedia]]]] [[spoiler:so chances are they would have at least noticed a strange radio transmission, like the one made by the murdered geologist]].

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* NASA sets up a huge camp in Ellesmere Island and does all its business unhindered. Not only is Ellesmere Island part of Canada, who would presumably also want to take part in this, they already have but the Canadian military maintains a permanent base there: [[AC:[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CFS_Alert Canadian Forces Station Alert (Wikipedia)]]]].
** Not to mention that CFS Alert is a '''military signals intelligence intercept facility''' run jointly by the Canadian military's intelligence division and CSEC the Communications Security Establishment (the Canadian equivalent of the NSA) [[AC:[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_Security_Establishment_Canada#Signal_intelligence org/wiki/Communications_Security_Establishment#Signal_intelligence Wikipedia]]]] [[spoiler:so chances are they would have at least noticed a strange radio transmission, like the one made by the murdered geologist]].
16th Nov '17 12:07:25 AM Lucinator
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** This is the Vatican were talking about here, they can afford it if they want.
7th Nov '17 3:14:37 PM Cieloazul
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* Brown claims that Rosslyn Chapel has the same layout as the Temple of Solomon. According to real experts: "Rosslyn Chapel bears no more resemblance to Solomon's or Herod's Temple than a house brick does to a paperback book." '''''[[AC:Rosslyn and the Grail]]'''''
* No, Leonardo da Vinci was not "flamboyantly homosexual". No law-abiding citizen was 'flamboyantly' anything besides heterosexual due to the laws of the time. Also, the standard of acceptable casualty between genders has fluctuated greatly over the centuries, and the terms "homosexual" and "heterosexual" themselves only date to the last century or so. The terms, and almost certainly their standards, would be alien to Leonardo. Leonardo ''was'' accused of sodomy as a young man in 1476. However, he was ''acquitted''. His writings in later life indicate that if anything, he was asexual and was simply uninterested in either sex. ''[[AC:The Da Vinci Hoax]]''
* UsefulNotes/TheKnightsTemplar mainly maintained territory in the Levant, and became an exceptionally wealthy early banking service. Their degrees of literary knowledge and education varied greatly, and their history makes it extremely improbable that they passed down ''any'' kind of geometry from Egyptians or the like. ''[[AC:The Knights Templar: A New History., p.2]]''

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* Brown claims that Rosslyn Chapel has the same layout as the Temple of Solomon. According to real experts: "Rosslyn Chapel bears no more resemblance to Solomon's or Herod's Temple than a house brick does to a paperback book." '''''[[AC:Rosslyn and the Grail]]'''''
* No, Leonardo da Vinci was not "flamboyantly homosexual". No law-abiding citizen was 'flamboyantly' anything besides heterosexual due to the laws of the time. Also, the standard of acceptable casualty between genders has fluctuated greatly over the centuries, and the terms "homosexual" and "heterosexual" themselves only date to the last century or so. The terms, and almost certainly their standards, would be alien to Leonardo. Leonardo ''was'' accused of sodomy as a young man in 1476. However, 1476, but he was ''acquitted''. acquitted. His writings in later life indicate that that, if anything, he was asexual and was thus simply uninterested in either sex. ''[[AC:The Da Vinci Hoax]]''
* UsefulNotes/TheKnightsTemplar mainly maintained territory in the Levant, and became an exceptionally wealthy early banking service. Their degrees of literary knowledge and education varied greatly, and going from basically illiterate to shockingly cultured, but in any case their history makes it extremely improbable that they passed down ''any'' kind of geometry from Egyptians or the like. ''[[AC:The Knights Templar: A New History., p.2]]''



* What about that ''monk'' from Opus Dei? Opus Dei was specifically founded for people who live "in the world"? (In other words, people who ''aren't'' members of religious orders.)

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* What about that ''monk'' from Opus Dei? Opus Dei was specifically founded for people who live "in the world"? (In other words, people who ''aren't'' members of religious orders. An Opus Dei monk would be literally a OxymoronicBeing.)



* Brown is also responsible for a false meme which has spread throughout popular culture: that the Council of Nicaea "set" the Biblical canon, the books which are considered official scripture (according to Brown, thereby suppressing those Gospels that contained the "truth" about Jesus' descendants yadda yadda yadda). In fact, Nicaea had ''absolutely nothing'' to say about the canon; on the one hand the four Gospels had been agreed upon as the only legitimate ones as early as 175 and the other 23 books were universally recognized by the mid-3rd century.[[note]] In the Latin West; it was another two centuries before the Eastern Church recognized Revelation[[/note]] on the other hand no Council officially decreed the canon as set until that of Trent in 1546 -- ''after Leonardo's death.''
* Brown cites the [[UsefulNotes/{{Gnosticism}} Gospel of Philip]] as saying that Jesus and Mary Magdalene were married. The text actually says no such thing; while it does say Mary Magdalene had special insight into Jesus's teachings, she is only referred to as Jesus's 'companion'. [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Philip Wikipedia]]

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* Brown is also responsible for a false meme which has spread throughout popular culture: that the 325 Council of Nicaea "set" the Biblical canon, the books which are considered official scripture (according to Brown, thereby suppressing those Gospels that contained the "truth" about Jesus' descendants yadda yadda yadda). In fact, Nicaea had ''absolutely nothing'' to say about the canon; on the one hand the four Gospels had been agreed upon as the only legitimate ones as early as 175 and the other 23 books were universally recognized by the mid-3rd century.[[note]] In the Latin West; it was another two centuries before the Eastern Church recognized Revelation[[/note]] on the other hand no Council officially decreed the canon as set until that of Trent in 1546 -- ''after Leonardo's death.''
* Brown cites the [[UsefulNotes/{{Gnosticism}} Gospel of Philip]] as saying that Jesus and Mary Magdalene were married. The text actually says no such thing; while it does say Mary Magdalene had special insight into Jesus's teachings, teachings and she is only referred to as Jesus's 'companion'.'companion', this is actually a very wide term and it does not necessarily imply a sexual relationship. [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Philip Wikipedia]]



* Brown describes a nefarious Vatican conspiracy to hide the truth of the Dead Sea Scrolls from the world. This would be quite a feat, since the Dead Sea Scrolls have never been under the control of the Vatican.
* Brown insists that the Priory of Sion, the secret society whose Grand Masters supposedly include Leonardo, Isaac Newton and Victor Hugo, is "...a European society founded in 1099, a real organization". In actual fact, it was founded by a French con man in 1956. ''[[AC: [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priory_of_Sion Wikipedia]]]]''

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* Brown describes a nefarious Vatican conspiracy to hide the truth of the Dead Sea Scrolls from the world. This would be quite a feat, since the Dead Sea Scrolls have never been under the control of the Vatican.
Vatican in the first place.
* Brown insists that the Priory of Sion, the secret society whose Grand Masters supposedly include Leonardo, Isaac Newton and Victor Hugo, is "...a European society founded in 1099, a real organization". In actual fact, Nowadays it's pretty much proved that it was founded by a French con man in 1956. ''[[AC: [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priory_of_Sion Wikipedia]]]]''
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