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17th Feb '17 2:05:37 PM SniperJ
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* ComicBook/MilesMorales has become infamous for being Bendis' creator's pet. Despite being an new, amateur kid hero, he has the tendency to beat everyone when written by Bendis (which is all the time), including his far more experienced predecessor Peter Parker from the main universe. The worst example was probably Miles defeating the uber powerful EldritchAbomination Blackheart, ''just after this one had taken out all the other heroes''.

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* ComicBook/MilesMorales has become infamous for being Bendis' creator's pet. Despite being an new, amateur kid hero, he has the tendency to beat everyone when written by Bendis (which is all the time), including his far more experienced predecessor Peter Parker from the main universe. The worst example was probably Miles defeating the uber powerful EldritchAbomination Blackheart, ''just after this one had taken out all the other heroes''.
heroes''. This also applies to other characters Bendis creates; both [[ComicBook/XMen Goldballs]] and [[ComicBook/IronMan Riri Williams]] have been pushed heavily outside their own comics and [[CharacterShilling disproportionately praised by other characters]].
29th Jan '17 1:26:39 PM Acomicfan1
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* Mary Jane Watson of the ''Franchise/SpiderMan'' comics is an ''inversion'': Most of the fans like her and want stories featuring her, while creators (''especially'' Creator/JoeQuesada) hate her and are willing to ruin the franchise to get rid of her. This ''might'' be because they were [[RunningTheAsylum readers when they were young]], when MJ became the target of DieForOurShip from Gwen fans following Gwen's death, and MJ and Peter's marriage became a divisive move. As MJ went through massive amounts of character development and became a much more beloved character, a combination of lazy writers using her in uncreative ways during ''ComicBook/TheCloneSaga'' and old hatred of her and/or the marriage led to people like Quesada gaining control over the writing.



* Slott does it again with Morlun. In his original appearance in ''The Other'', Morlun was a very unpopular character. He was a textbook GenericDoomsdayVillain that got repeatedly shilled as Spider-Man's greatest enemy ever, he didn't seem to fit in Spidey's rogues gallery, he got killed off twice and it didn't stick, and he featured in a story arc that mostly existed to introduce basically-unneeded retcons. Slott had a talent for taking lame old characters and [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap refurbishing them into properly-liked ones]], so he decided to try his hand at Morlun, introducing his family, the Inheritors, and making him and them the primary villains of ''ComicBook/SpiderVerse''. However, the reinvention was a complete failure; not only was Morlun still a GenericDoomsdayVillain, but so was everyone else in his family, and consequently, it felt like about 80% of the comic was devoted to Morlun and the other Inheritors hunting down alternate Spider-Men and [[CListFodder murdering them.]] On top of that, though he doesn't achieve his goals, he does survive the series, which suggests that he'll be back soon enough (against the wishes of just about everyone).
13th Jan '17 1:35:30 AM FuzzyBarbarian
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** Harper Row. She was created because of the post-ComicBook/New52 veto on Cassandra Cain and Stephanie Brown, but since they've come back she's been shilled as basically better than either of them as well as the 'uber Robin'. This includes things like being more determined than Steph (who's famously the biggest {{Determinator}} in the franchise in terms of never quitting despite horrible odds) and central to every part of Cass' character development to the point where her whole motivation is now based on Harper. We're frequently told how great she is without any evidence and nobody ever calls her out on any of her frequent {{Jerkass}}-ness. And she's also an uber tech genius that surpasses Tim Drake (''the'' tech guy in the Bat-fam) somehow despite debuting with basic skills based on electronics. Oh, and she becomes an InstantExpert and is able to pull of advanced acrobatics and fighting despite barely being trained. Even in ''ComicBook/DetectiveComicsRebirth'', a series that's basically the Batman {{Ensemble DarkHorse}}s in a team book, Harper got more focus than Cassandra Cain for the first two story arcs, and Harper's ''not even in the main cast''.

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** Harper Row. She was created because of the post-ComicBook/New52 veto on Cassandra Cain and Stephanie Brown, but since they've come back she's been shilled as basically better than either of them as well as the 'uber Robin'. This includes things like being more determined than Steph (who's famously the biggest {{Determinator}} in the franchise in terms of never quitting despite horrible odds) and central to every part of Cass' character development to the point where her whole motivation is now based on Harper. We're frequently told how great she is without any evidence and nobody ever calls her out on any of her frequent {{Jerkass}}-ness. And she's also an uber tech genius that surpasses Tim Drake (''the'' tech guy in the Bat-fam) somehow despite debuting with basic skills based on electronics. Oh, and she becomes an InstantExpert and is able to pull of advanced acrobatics and fighting despite barely being trained. Even in ''ComicBook/DetectiveComicsRebirth'', a series that's basically the Batman {{Ensemble DarkHorse}}s Darkhorse}}s in a team book, Harper got more focus than Cassandra Cain for the first two story arcs, and Harper's ''not even in the main cast''.
13th Jan '17 1:35:14 AM FuzzyBarbarian
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** Harper Row. She was created because of the post-ComicBook/New52 veto on Cassandra Cain and Stephanie Brown, but since they've come back she's been shilled as basically better than either of them as well as the 'uber Robin'. This includes things like being more determined than Steph (who's famously the biggest {{Determinator}} in the franchise in terms of never quitting despite horrible odds) and central to every part of Cass' character development to the point where her whole motivation is now based on Harper. We're frequently told how great she is without any evidence and nobody ever calls her out on any of her frequent {{Jerkass}}-ness. And she's also an uber tech genius that surpasses Tim Drake (''the'' tech guy in the Bat-fam) somehow despite debuting with basic skills based on electronics. Oh, and she becomes an InstantExpert and is able to pull of advanced acrobatics and fighting despite barely being trained. Even in ComicBook/DetectiveComicsRebirth'', a series that's basically the Batman EnsembleDarkHorse|s in a team book, Harper got more focus than Cassandra Cain for the first two story arcs, and Harper's ''not even in the main cast''.

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** Harper Row. She was created because of the post-ComicBook/New52 veto on Cassandra Cain and Stephanie Brown, but since they've come back she's been shilled as basically better than either of them as well as the 'uber Robin'. This includes things like being more determined than Steph (who's famously the biggest {{Determinator}} in the franchise in terms of never quitting despite horrible odds) and central to every part of Cass' character development to the point where her whole motivation is now based on Harper. We're frequently told how great she is without any evidence and nobody ever calls her out on any of her frequent {{Jerkass}}-ness. And she's also an uber tech genius that surpasses Tim Drake (''the'' tech guy in the Bat-fam) somehow despite debuting with basic skills based on electronics. Oh, and she becomes an InstantExpert and is able to pull of advanced acrobatics and fighting despite barely being trained. Even in ComicBook/DetectiveComicsRebirth'', ''ComicBook/DetectiveComicsRebirth'', a series that's basically the Batman EnsembleDarkHorse|s {{Ensemble DarkHorse}}s in a team book, Harper got more focus than Cassandra Cain for the first two story arcs, and Harper's ''not even in the main cast''.
13th Jan '17 1:34:39 AM FuzzyBarbarian
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** Harper Row. She was created because of the post-ComicBook/New52 veto on Cassandra Cain and Stephanie Brown, but since they've come back she's been shilled as basically better than either of them as well as the 'uber Robin'. This includes things like being more determined than Steph (who's famously the biggest {{Determinator}} in the franchise in terms of never quitting despite horrible odds) and central to every part of Cass' character development to the point where her whole motivation is now based on Harper. We're frequently told how great she is without any evidence and nobody ever calls her out on any of her frequent {{Jerkass}}-ness. And she's also an uber tech genius that surpasses Tim Drake (''the'' tech guy in the Bat-fam) somehow despite debuting with basic skills based on electronics. Oh, and she becomes an InstantExpert and is able to pull of advanced acrobatics and fighting despite barely being trained.
*** There's also the amount of focus she gets. ''ComicBook/BatmanEternal'' and ''CmicBook/BatmanAndRobinEternal'' were both advertised to feature the return of Stephanie Brown and Cassandra Cain, respectively (the second was also about the Robins). While they do get their origins and appear, Harper also gets ''extensive'' focus, even overshadowing the two in many people's eyes. It's basically advertising that your comic will feature the return of a fan-favourite character... and it does, but more heavily features your own original character that people don't like.

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** Harper Row. She was created because of the post-ComicBook/New52 veto on Cassandra Cain and Stephanie Brown, but since they've come back she's been shilled as basically better than either of them as well as the 'uber Robin'. This includes things like being more determined than Steph (who's famously the biggest {{Determinator}} in the franchise in terms of never quitting despite horrible odds) and central to every part of Cass' character development to the point where her whole motivation is now based on Harper. We're frequently told how great she is without any evidence and nobody ever calls her out on any of her frequent {{Jerkass}}-ness. And she's also an uber tech genius that surpasses Tim Drake (''the'' tech guy in the Bat-fam) somehow despite debuting with basic skills based on electronics. Oh, and she becomes an InstantExpert and is able to pull of advanced acrobatics and fighting despite barely being trained.
trained. Even in ComicBook/DetectiveComicsRebirth'', a series that's basically the Batman EnsembleDarkHorse|s in a team book, Harper got more focus than Cassandra Cain for the first two story arcs, and Harper's ''not even in the main cast''.
*** There's also the amount of focus she gets. ''ComicBook/BatmanEternal'' and ''CmicBook/BatmanAndRobinEternal'' ''ComicBook/BatmanAndRobinEternal'' were both advertised to feature the return of Stephanie Brown and Cassandra Cain, respectively (the second was also about the Robins). While they do get their origins and appear, Harper also gets ''extensive'' focus, even overshadowing the two in many people's eyes. It's basically advertising that your comic will feature the return of a fan-favourite character... and it does, but more heavily features your own original character that people don't like.
6th Jan '17 5:15:24 PM NubianSatyress
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* Creator/DwayneMcDuffie had Franchise/GreenLantern John Stewart, though this was largely part of self-fulfilling prophecy; a lot of fans didn't like Stewart for the way he leapfrogged Kyle Rayner (previously established in the animated canon) and longtime comic GL Hal Jordan to be the ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueUnlimited'' Green Lantern. This led to [=McDuffie=] (a black creator who was quite vocal on what he felt was racism within the TV and comic industry, and who had inherited Stewart on the cartoon from the previous showrunner) making some comments equating [[EverythingIsRacist hatred of Stewart as racism]], which led to the widespread notion that Stewart was [=McDuffie=]'s pet character. Fast forward a couple of years when [=McDuffie=] took over the ''Justice League of America'' comic and he was told to use John instead of Hal as the Justice League of America's Green Lantern on orders from above (partly because Hal was being given [[ComicBook/JusticeLeagueCryForJustice HIS JLA TEAM!]]). Sadly for [=McDuffie=], [[FanDumb fandom took the change badly]], not helped in the least by the fact that Hal's JLA spin-off was delayed and reduced to a mini-series when it became apparent that James Robinson's artist was never going to get the book done on time. This lead to Hal returning to the title until his book was ready, followed by John's reinstatement just long enough for him to be bounced again and replaced with Hal until he was quickly replaced with Jade when they needed a book to focus on her ''ComicBook/BrightestDay'' storyline. The entire process was made progressively worse and worse by ExecutiveMeddling, in case you couldn't tell. And when [=McDuffie=] had the ''gall'' to describe this and the other creative difficulties on his forum (without assigning blame or complaining), DC [[ShootTheMessenger responded by firing him]].

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* Creator/DwayneMcDuffie had Franchise/GreenLantern John Stewart, though this was largely part of self-fulfilling prophecy; a lot of fans didn't like Stewart for the way he leapfrogged Kyle Rayner (previously established in the animated canon) and longtime comic GL Hal Jordan to be the ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueUnlimited'' Green Lantern. This led to [=McDuffie=] (a black creator who was quite vocal on what he felt was racism within the TV and comic industry, and who had inherited Stewart on the cartoon from the previous showrunner) making some comments equating [[EverythingIsRacist hatred of Stewart as racism]], racism, which led to the widespread notion that Stewart was [=McDuffie=]'s pet character. Fast forward a couple of years when [=McDuffie=] took over the ''Justice League of America'' comic and he was told to use John instead of Hal as the Justice League of America's Green Lantern on orders from above (partly because Hal was being given [[ComicBook/JusticeLeagueCryForJustice HIS JLA TEAM!]]). Sadly for [=McDuffie=], [[FanDumb fandom took the change badly]], not helped in the least by the fact that Hal's JLA spin-off was delayed and reduced to a mini-series when it became apparent that James Robinson's artist was never going to get the book done on time. This lead to Hal returning to the title until his book was ready, followed by John's reinstatement just long enough for him to be bounced again and replaced with Hal until he was quickly replaced with Jade when they needed a book to focus on her ''ComicBook/BrightestDay'' storyline. The entire process was made progressively worse and worse by ExecutiveMeddling, in case you couldn't tell. And when [=McDuffie=] had the ''gall'' to describe this and the other creative difficulties on his forum (without assigning blame or complaining), DC [[ShootTheMessenger responded by firing him]].
12th Dec '16 5:01:35 AM Tron80
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* ''ComicBook/TheFlash'' has Barry Allen, the second Flash. Barry pulled a HeroicSacrifice in ''ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths'' (a crossover from the 1980s) and this led to his sidekick, Wally West, taking up the mantle of the Flash. Wally quickly became a fan favourite and eventually universally accepted as the Flash, and was also featured in the DCAU. Fast forward to the late 2000s, and people who grew up with Barry are RunningTheAsylum, including Creator/GeoffJohns, who has actually said that Barry is a favourite character. So, of course, Barry returns, usurps Wally (who by that point had been the Flash for over ''20 years'') as the protagonist of the ''Flash'' ongoing, and is shilled as the best Flash, to the point where it is said that, since his death, crime has gone up massively. This is despite the fact that Wally is clearly established as being faster than Barry. ''Then'', ''Flashpoint'' happens, and Wally is rebooted out of existence, along with his wife and children, and Barry is established as being the only Flash. All this despite pretty much nobody wanting Barry back.

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* ''ComicBook/TheFlash'' ''Franchise/TheFlash'' has Barry Allen, the second Flash. Barry pulled a HeroicSacrifice in ''ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths'' (a crossover from the 1980s) and this led to his sidekick, Wally West, taking up the mantle of the Flash. Wally quickly became a fan favourite and eventually universally accepted as the Flash, and was also featured in the DCAU. Fast forward to the late 2000s, and people who grew up with Barry are RunningTheAsylum, including Creator/GeoffJohns, who has actually said that Barry is a favourite character. So, of course, Barry returns, usurps Wally (who by that point had been the Flash for over ''20 years'') as the protagonist of the ''Flash'' ongoing, and is shilled as the best Flash, to the point where it is said that, since his death, crime has gone up massively. This is despite the fact that Wally is clearly established as being faster than Barry. ''Then'', ''Flashpoint'' happens, and Wally is rebooted out of existence, along with his wife and children, and Barry is established as being the only Flash. All this despite pretty much nobody wanting Barry back.



* ComicBook/{{Supergirl}} suffered from this hard in the mid-2000s. Basically, for nearly twenty years, the "Superman's cousin" version of the character had been unused, with various other characters filling the mantle (more than a few of which came out as [[ReplacementScrappy Replacement Scrappies).]] Suddenly, in the pages of ''ComicBook/SupermanBatman'', DC debuted a character with the same origin as the classic Kara Zor-El, and went on to firmly sweep any traces of replacement Supergirls [[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome under the rug.]] However, the new Supergirl turned out to be a massive JerkAss with a spoiled, entitled attitude and a nearly-{{Stripperific}} outfit, who would go on to beat up a lot of more likeable characters (mostly heroes) [[LetsYouAndHimFight for reasons that seemed to mostly consist]] of "show off how awesome Supergirl is." Nonetheless, Superman gave her carte blanche to run around using his insignia, and she was often described as being [[CharacterShilling even stronger than him]] (a fact so nonsensical it was later retconned). She appeared in every book from ''ComicBook/JusticeLeague'' to ''ComicBook/TeenTitans'' to ''ComicBook/LegionOfSuperheroes'' to her own ongoing series, and never seemed to fit in any of them, giving the impression that DC had no idea what to do with her. It would later come out that the editorial staff loved Kara Zor-El, and wanted her to keep being in comics, but fans of the original squeaky-clean Kara disapproved of [[DarkerAndEdgier the new one's attitude]], while fans of the replacement Supergirls (particularly the fairly well-characterized Linda Danvers) didn't get why this jerk had taken the spotlight. By the time of the ComicBook/{{New 52}}, though she'd straightened herself out a bit and DC had stopped shoving her everywhere, the Post-Crisis Kara Zor-El was considerably less popular than ComicBook/PowerGirl, her own alternate universe counterpart.
13th Nov '16 12:38:11 PM nombretomado
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* Creator/DwayneMcDuffie had Franchise/GreenLantern John Stewart, though this was largely part of self-fulfilling prophecy; a lot of fans didn't like Stewart for the way he leapfrogged Kyle Rayner (previously established in the animated canon) and longtime comic GL Hal Jordan to be the ''JusticeLeagueUnlimited'' Green Lantern. This led to [=McDuffie=] (a black creator who was quite vocal on what he felt was racism within the TV and comic industry, and who had inherited Stewart on the cartoon from the previous showrunner) making some comments equating [[EverythingIsRacist hatred of Stewart as racism]], which led to the widespread notion that Stewart was [=McDuffie=]'s pet character. Fast forward a couple of years when [=McDuffie=] took over the ''Justice League of America'' comic and he was told to use John instead of Hal as the Justice League of America's Green Lantern on orders from above (partly because Hal was being given [[ComicBook/JusticeLeagueCryForJustice HIS JLA TEAM!]]). Sadly for [=McDuffie=], [[FanDumb fandom took the change badly]], not helped in the least by the fact that Hal's JLA spin-off was delayed and reduced to a mini-series when it became apparent that James Robinson's artist was never going to get the book done on time. This lead to Hal returning to the title until his book was ready, followed by John's reinstatement just long enough for him to be bounced again and replaced with Hal until he was quickly replaced with Jade when they needed a book to focus on her ''ComicBook/BrightestDay'' storyline. The entire process was made progressively worse and worse by ExecutiveMeddling, in case you couldn't tell. And when [=McDuffie=] had the ''gall'' to describe this and the other creative difficulties on his forum (without assigning blame or complaining), DC [[ShootTheMessenger responded by firing him]].

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* Creator/DwayneMcDuffie had Franchise/GreenLantern John Stewart, though this was largely part of self-fulfilling prophecy; a lot of fans didn't like Stewart for the way he leapfrogged Kyle Rayner (previously established in the animated canon) and longtime comic GL Hal Jordan to be the ''JusticeLeagueUnlimited'' ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueUnlimited'' Green Lantern. This led to [=McDuffie=] (a black creator who was quite vocal on what he felt was racism within the TV and comic industry, and who had inherited Stewart on the cartoon from the previous showrunner) making some comments equating [[EverythingIsRacist hatred of Stewart as racism]], which led to the widespread notion that Stewart was [=McDuffie=]'s pet character. Fast forward a couple of years when [=McDuffie=] took over the ''Justice League of America'' comic and he was told to use John instead of Hal as the Justice League of America's Green Lantern on orders from above (partly because Hal was being given [[ComicBook/JusticeLeagueCryForJustice HIS JLA TEAM!]]). Sadly for [=McDuffie=], [[FanDumb fandom took the change badly]], not helped in the least by the fact that Hal's JLA spin-off was delayed and reduced to a mini-series when it became apparent that James Robinson's artist was never going to get the book done on time. This lead to Hal returning to the title until his book was ready, followed by John's reinstatement just long enough for him to be bounced again and replaced with Hal until he was quickly replaced with Jade when they needed a book to focus on her ''ComicBook/BrightestDay'' storyline. The entire process was made progressively worse and worse by ExecutiveMeddling, in case you couldn't tell. And when [=McDuffie=] had the ''gall'' to describe this and the other creative difficulties on his forum (without assigning blame or complaining), DC [[ShootTheMessenger responded by firing him]].
8th Nov '16 4:40:21 PM dlchen145
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** Cammi is another one - while nobody denies she is an experienced survivalist and {{Badass}}, she is also set up as an unquestionable team leader in the second arc and other characters, including those who actually are experienced leaders (Nico Minoru, Reptil), follow her without a question and even ask what they should do in situations which they should be better suited to handle in the first place. And worst of all, she keeps this position despite making stupid decisions and when Cullen finally calls her on it, it's treated as him having an emotional breakdown, not [[StrawmanHasAPoint pointing out how an horribly incompetent leader she is]].

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** Cammi is another one - while nobody denies she is an experienced survivalist and {{Badass}}, badass, she is also set up as an unquestionable team leader in the second arc and other characters, including those who actually are experienced leaders (Nico Minoru, Reptil), follow her without a question and even ask what they should do in situations which they should be better suited to handle in the first place. And worst of all, she keeps this position despite making stupid decisions and when Cullen finally calls her on it, it's treated as him having an emotional breakdown, not [[StrawmanHasAPoint pointing out how an horribly incompetent leader she is]].



* Drift from IDW's ''[[ComicBook/TheTransformersIDW Transformers]]'' comic hit this status before he even debuted because the promotion of the character was so obnoxious. He was hyped up at conventions as "The [[WolverinePublicity Wolverine]] of ''Transformers,''" which struck many fans as odd because Grimlock has a lock on that role. Drift has a Weeaboo vibe thanks to the rising sun motif and GratuitousJapanese on his car mode, as well as being described as a "drift-racing Transformer" created because he filled a niche no other character could (never mind the LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters in Transformers and the fact that at least one drift racer already existed). He boasts ImplausibleFencingPowers, an annoying arrogant smirk that ''never goes away,'' and copious shilling from fan-favorite Kup. He debuted alongside the Wreckers, a group of well-loved {{badass}}es, with no explanation except that everyone thinks he's so awesome. There are even instances of characters asking where he is when he's off screen. Oh, and did we mention that he's some sort of mysterious wild card who is not really an Autobot but is trusted by Kup and company anyway? Essentially, he's a heavily promoted character who is cool because the comic tells us he's cool and lets him curb stomp scary Insecticon drones (while wearing ''that Primus-damned smirk'') and impress the actually likable characters. The similarity to ''TheSimpsons'' parody of Creator's Pets has led Transformers fans to start a meme of quoting "The Itchy & Scratchy & [[ShooOutTheNewGuy Poochie]] Show" in reference to Drift, hoping desperately that his home planet needs him and that he dies on the way back.

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* Drift from IDW's ''[[ComicBook/TheTransformersIDW Transformers]]'' comic hit this status before he even debuted because the promotion of the character was so obnoxious. He was hyped up at conventions as "The [[WolverinePublicity Wolverine]] of ''Transformers,''" which struck many fans as odd because Grimlock has a lock on that role. Drift has a Weeaboo vibe thanks to the rising sun motif and GratuitousJapanese on his car mode, as well as being described as a "drift-racing Transformer" created because he filled a niche no other character could (never mind the LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters in Transformers and the fact that at least one drift racer already existed). He boasts ImplausibleFencingPowers, an annoying arrogant smirk that ''never goes away,'' and copious shilling from fan-favorite Kup. He debuted alongside the Wreckers, a group of well-loved {{badass}}es, badasses, with no explanation except that everyone thinks he's so awesome. There are even instances of characters asking where he is when he's off screen. Oh, and did we mention that he's some sort of mysterious wild card who is not really an Autobot but is trusted by Kup and company anyway? Essentially, he's a heavily promoted character who is cool because the comic tells us he's cool and lets him curb stomp scary Insecticon drones (while wearing ''that Primus-damned smirk'') and impress the actually likable characters. The similarity to ''TheSimpsons'' parody of Creator's Pets has led Transformers fans to start a meme of quoting "The Itchy & Scratchy & [[ShooOutTheNewGuy Poochie]] Show" in reference to Drift, hoping desperately that his home planet needs him and that he dies on the way back.
24th Sep '16 11:45:04 AM Dere
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* ComicBook/MilesMorales has become infamous for being Bendis' creator's pet. Despite being an new, amateur kid hero, he has the tendency to beat everyone when written by Bendis (which is all the time), including his far more experienced predecessor Peter Parker from the main universe. The worst example was probably Miles defeating the uber powerful EldritchAbomination Darkheart, ''just after this one had taken out all the other heroes''.

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* ComicBook/MilesMorales has become infamous for being Bendis' creator's pet. Despite being an new, amateur kid hero, he has the tendency to beat everyone when written by Bendis (which is all the time), including his far more experienced predecessor Peter Parker from the main universe. The worst example was probably Miles defeating the uber powerful EldritchAbomination Darkheart, Blackheart, ''just after this one had taken out all the other heroes''.
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