History Creator / JoeQuesada

6th Jul '16 12:12:03 PM JamesAustin
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* FlipFlopOfGod: Joe Quesada was adamant that the mainstream Marvel Universe would never crossover with the Ultimate Marvel Universe, and is on record saying that the idea would be creatively bankrupt. Fast-forward to 2012, where Marvel launched a heavily-publicized crossover between Peter Parker, the mainstream universe Spider-Man, and Miles Morales, the new Ultimate Spider-Man. This was largely done to celebrate Spider-Man's 50th anniversary, as well as cash-in on the success of the ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan'' movie. The two worlds would be merged after ''ComicBook/SecretWars2015''.

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* FlipFlopOfGod: [[invoked]] Joe Quesada was adamant that the mainstream Marvel Universe would never crossover with the Ultimate Marvel Universe, and is on record saying that the idea would be creatively bankrupt. Fast-forward to 2012, where Marvel launched a heavily-publicized crossover between Peter Parker, the mainstream universe Spider-Man, and Miles Morales, the new Ultimate Spider-Man. This was largely done to celebrate Spider-Man's 50th anniversary, as well as cash-in on the success of the ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan'' movie. The two worlds would be merged after ''ComicBook/SecretWars2015''.
6th Jul '16 11:54:07 AM JamesAustin
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Editor-in-Chief at Creator/MarvelComics between 2000 and 2011, and a very polarising figure indeed. Started off as an artist, probably best known for his work on ComicBook/{{Daredevil}}. He took the editor job in 2000 and, while comic sales have risen since he took over, they are still a shadow of the sales in the UsefulNotes/SilverAge through the 1980s. He was the longest-serving Marvel editor-in-chief other than Stan Lee, and is the first artist to attain that position.

Currently holds the position of Marvel's Chief Creative Officer, tasked to "ensure that all portrayals of Marvel's characters and stories remain true to the essence of Marvel history."[[note]][[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment Suffice to say,]] this is one of the most controversial figures Marvel has ever seen.[[/note]]

Is part of an interesting ProductionPosse with Kevin Smith. He was the artist for Kevin Smith's Daredevil comic, did the intro to Mallrats, and actually appeared in Chasing Amy and Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. He also was a guest on Smith's Fatman on Batman podcast.

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Joseph "Joe" Quesada (born December 1, 1962) is an American comic book editor, writer and artist, who was the Editor-in-Chief at Creator/MarvelComics between 2000 and 2011, and a very polarising figure indeed. Started off as an artist, probably best known for his work on ComicBook/{{Daredevil}}. He took the editor job in 2000 and, while comic sales have risen since he took over, they are still a shadow of the sales in the UsefulNotes/SilverAge UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks through the 1980s. He was the longest-serving Marvel editor-in-chief other than Stan Lee, and is the first artist to attain that position.

Currently holds the position of Marvel's Chief Creative Officer, tasked to "ensure that all portrayals of Marvel's characters and stories remain true to the essence of Marvel history."[[note]][[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment Suffice "[[note]]Suffice to say,]] say, this is one of the most controversial figures Marvel has ever seen.[[/note]]

Is part of an interesting ProductionPosse with Kevin Smith. He was the artist for Kevin Smith's Daredevil ''Daredevil'' comic, did the intro to Mallrats, ''Mallrats'', and actually appeared in Chasing Amy ''Film/ChasingAmy'' and Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. ''Film/JayAndSilentBobStrikeBack''. He also was a guest on Smith's Fatman ''Fatman on Batman Batman'' podcast.



* [[ExecutiveMeddling Changing]] the Sins Past story arc of ComicBook/JMSSpiderMan to replace Peter Parker with Norman Osborn as the father of Gwen Stacy's children, as that would make Spider-Man [[NotAllowedToGrowUp appear too old]].

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* [[ExecutiveMeddling Changing]] [[invoked]] the Sins Past story arc of ComicBook/JMSSpiderMan to replace Peter Parker with Norman Osborn as the father of Gwen Stacy's children, as that would make Spider-Man [[NotAllowedToGrowUp appear too old]].



* He and Creator/BrianMichaelBendis had [[ComicBook/TheAvengers The Wasp]] killed off, again claiming that her now widowed husband, Hank Pym, is now "more interesting" without her.

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* He and Creator/BrianMichaelBendis had [[ComicBook/TheAvengers The Wasp]] ComicBook/TheWasp killed off, again claiming that her now widowed husband, Hank Pym, is now "more interesting" without her.



* ExecutiveMeddling: Writers of the X-Men had difficulty bringing fan favorites BackFromTheDead due to the "whoever is dead stays dead" policy, though that mandate probably kept them from killing characters willy nilly as well. Though JMS was part of the planning process, he fought with him over the execution of ''Spider-Man: One More Day'' to the point that JMS wanted his name removed.
* FlipFlopOFGod: Joe Quesada was adamant that the mainstream Marvel Universe would never crossover with the Ultimate Marvel Universe, and is on record saying that the idea would be creatively bankrupt. Fast-forward to 2012, where Marvel launched a heavily-publicized crossover between Peter Parker, the mainstream universe Spider-Man, and Miles Morales, the new Ultimate Spider-Man. This was largely done to celebrate Spider-Man's 50th anniversary, as well as cash-in on the success of the The Amazing Spider-Man movie. The two worlds will be merged after Secret Wars 2015.
* GlowingEyesofDoom: When he draws Daredevil's face in shadow, he still puts in two reddish slits where his eyes would be. Mephisto's eyes glow as well. Also a case of RedEyesTakeWarning

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* ExecutiveMeddling: [[invoked]] Writers of the X-Men had difficulty bringing fan favorites BackFromTheDead due to the "whoever is dead stays dead" policy, though that mandate probably kept them from killing characters willy nilly as well. Though JMS was part of the planning process, he fought with him over the execution of ''Spider-Man: One More Day'' to the point that JMS wanted his name removed.
* FlipFlopOFGod: FlipFlopOfGod: Joe Quesada was adamant that the mainstream Marvel Universe would never crossover with the Ultimate Marvel Universe, and is on record saying that the idea would be creatively bankrupt. Fast-forward to 2012, where Marvel launched a heavily-publicized crossover between Peter Parker, the mainstream universe Spider-Man, and Miles Morales, the new Ultimate Spider-Man. This was largely done to celebrate Spider-Man's 50th anniversary, as well as cash-in on the success of the The Amazing Spider-Man ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan'' movie. The two worlds will would be merged after Secret Wars 2015.
''ComicBook/SecretWars2015''.
* GlowingEyesofDoom: GlowingEyesOfDoom: When he draws Daredevil's face in shadow, he still puts in two reddish slits where his eyes would be. Mephisto's eyes glow as well. Also a case of RedEyesTakeWarningRedEyesTakeWarning.



* OneOfUs: Obviously a comic book fan.
* RedAndBlackAndEvilAllOver: Inverted with Daredevil, who looks sinister and terrifying but is a hero. %%Mephisto on the other hand... [context needed]
* RunningGag: Did we finish that last crossover? Good start another one. Fans have noticed that characters tend to have their marriages ended. Also, while the stated intention is to explore storylines where they are single, the characters tend to get paired with another love interest not long after.
* RunningTheAsylum: Joe is one of the many comics executives that like bringing back elements of the comics from when he was a kid by trying to undo the past 20 years of comics that current fans enjoy.
* ShrugOfGod: Quesada infamously responded to questions and objections about how ''OMD''[='=]s magical retcon works or how it would affect past and future continuity with "It's magic! We don't have to explain it!"
* SmokingIsNotCool: Had Wolverine drop his smoking habit to avert SmokingIsCool
* StuffedInTheFridge: Superheroes having their wives killed or erased from history makes them 'more interesting'.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: When J. Michael Straczynski ''first'' thought up what ended up as the ridiculously controversial Sins Past storyline (which revealed that Gwen Stacy had had a child with Norman Osborn, he planned for Peter Parker to be the father, but Quesada felt that this would [[NotAllowedToGrowUp age the character too much]]. JMS also originally planned a very different version of One More Day, in which many events in Peter's life were changed by his helping Harry Osborn through his drug addiction. This would result in Norman Osborn never returning to being the Green Goblin, Gwen Stacy never dying, Harry and MJ never breaking up, and, in effect, Peter never marrying MJ. This was rejected for being too much of a RetCon: While it might have made for a better story than OMD, it also would've COMPLETELY ERASED the last 35 years of Mervel continuity (and well over 95% of Spider-Man continuity), effectively a Crisis on Infinite Earths-style reboot, replacing the entire Marvel Universe with an alternate timeline.

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* OneOfUs: [[invoked]] Obviously a comic book fan.
* RedAndBlackAndEvilAllOver: Inverted with Daredevil, who looks sinister and terrifying but is a hero. %%Mephisto Mephisto, on the other hand... [context needed]
hand, is a straight example: he looks like a devil, and yes, he's basically the equivalent of ''the Devil himself'' in the Marvel Universe.
* RunningGag: Did we finish that last crossover? Good Good, start another one. Fans have noticed that characters tend to have their marriages ended. Also, while the stated intention is to explore storylines where they are single, the characters tend to get paired with another love interest not long after.
* RunningTheAsylum: [[invoked]] Joe is one of the many comics executives that like bringing back elements of the comics from when he was a kid by trying to undo the past 20 years of comics that current fans enjoy.
* ShrugOfGod: [[invoked]] Quesada infamously responded to questions and objections about how ''OMD''[='=]s magical retcon works or how it would affect past and future continuity with "It's magic! We don't have to explain it!"
* SmokingIsNotCool: Had Wolverine drop his smoking habit to avert SmokingIsCool
SmokingIsCool.
* StuffedInTheFridge: StuffedIntoTheFridge: Superheroes having their wives killed or erased from history makes them 'more interesting'.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: [[invoked]] When J. Michael Straczynski ''first'' thought up what ended up as the ridiculously controversial Sins Past storyline (which revealed that Gwen Stacy had had a child with Norman Osborn, he planned for Peter Parker to be the father, but Quesada felt that this would [[NotAllowedToGrowUp age the character too much]]. JMS also originally planned a very different version of One More Day, in which many events in Peter's life were changed by his helping Harry Osborn through his drug addiction. This would result in Norman Osborn never returning to being the Green Goblin, Gwen Stacy never dying, Harry and MJ never breaking up, and, in effect, Peter never marrying MJ. This was rejected for being too much of a RetCon: While it might have made for a better story than OMD, it also would've COMPLETELY ERASED the last 35 years of Mervel continuity (and well over 95% of Spider-Man continuity), effectively a Crisis on Infinite Earths-style reboot, replacing the entire Marvel Universe with an alternate timeline.
25th May '16 12:27:04 AM Malachi108
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: When J. Michael Straczynski ''first'' thought up what ended up as the ridiculously controversial Sins Past storyline (which revealed that Gwen Stacy had had a child with Norman Osborn, he planned for Peter Parker to be the father, but Quesada felt that this would [[NotAllowedToGrowUp age the character too much]]. JMS also originally planned a very different version of One More Day, in which many events in Peter's life were changed by his helping Harry Osborn through his drug addiction. This would result in Norman Osborn never returning to being the Green Goblin, Gwen Stacy never dying, Harry and MJ never breaking up, and, in effect, Peter never marrying MJ. This was rejected for being too much of a RetCon: While it might have made for a better story than OMD, it also would've COMPLETELY ERASED the last 35 years of Mervel continuity (and well over 95% of Spider-Man continuity), effectively a Crisis on Infinite Earths-style reboot, replacing the entire Marvel Universe with an alternate timeline. And now we have Secret Wars 2015 anyways.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: When J. Michael Straczynski ''first'' thought up what ended up as the ridiculously controversial Sins Past storyline (which revealed that Gwen Stacy had had a child with Norman Osborn, he planned for Peter Parker to be the father, but Quesada felt that this would [[NotAllowedToGrowUp age the character too much]]. JMS also originally planned a very different version of One More Day, in which many events in Peter's life were changed by his helping Harry Osborn through his drug addiction. This would result in Norman Osborn never returning to being the Green Goblin, Gwen Stacy never dying, Harry and MJ never breaking up, and, in effect, Peter never marrying MJ. This was rejected for being too much of a RetCon: While it might have made for a better story than OMD, it also would've COMPLETELY ERASED the last 35 years of Mervel continuity (and well over 95% of Spider-Man continuity), effectively a Crisis on Infinite Earths-style reboot, replacing the entire Marvel Universe with an alternate timeline. And now we have Secret Wars 2015 anyways.
8th Mar '16 8:25:57 PM themystery
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* Backstory Horror: In his often forgotten mini-series Daredevil: Father we find out that the man Matt lost his sight saving was actually an abusive drunk who molested his own daughter...seriously.

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* Backstory Horror: {{Backstory Horror}}: In his often forgotten mini-series Daredevil: Father we find out that the man Matt lost his sight saving was actually an abusive drunk who molested his own daughter...seriously.
8th Mar '16 8:25:02 PM themystery
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8th Mar '16 8:14:59 PM themystery
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* Backstory Horror: In his often forgotten mini-series Daredevil: Father we find out that the man Matt lost his sight saving was actually an abusive drunk who molested his own daughter...seriously.
18th Oct '15 10:56:59 PM Anicomicgeek
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* CrisisCrossover: While Quesada was EIC, the main Marvel books had Avengers Disassembled, which lead to House of M (Which also continued into Messiah Complex, Messiah War, and Second Coming for the X-Men books), Civil War, World War Hulk, Secret Invasion which lead into Dark Reign and then Siege. Meanwhile, Marvel Cosmic had Annihilation (happening at the same time as the Civil War on Earth), followed by a sequel called Annihilation: Conquest. War of Kings spun out into Marvel Cosmic from Secret Invasion (fitting, considering the Skrull are space villains), and the fallout from THAT finally finishes with The Thanos Imperative. In the AlternateUniverse ComicBook/UltimateMarvel there was Ultimatum.

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* TheCameo: Has appeared in some of the Franchise/ViewAskewniverse films. The StarterVillain in the Daredevil movie is named after him.
* CrisisCrossover: While Quesada was EIC, the main Marvel books had Avengers Disassembled, ''Avengers Disassembled'', which lead to House ''House of M M'' (Which also continued into Messiah Complex, Messiah War, ''Messiah Complex'', ''Messiah War'', and Second Coming ''Second Coming'' for the X-Men books), Civil War, World ''Civil War'', ''World War Hulk, Secret Invasion Hulk'', ''Secret Invasion'' which lead into Dark Reign ''Dark Reign'' and then Siege. ''Siege''. Meanwhile, Marvel Cosmic had Annihilation ''Annihilation'' (happening at the same time as the Civil War on Earth), followed by a sequel called Annihilation: Conquest. War ''Annihilation: Conquest''. ''War of Kings Kings'' spun out into Marvel Cosmic from Secret Invasion ''Secret Invasion'' (fitting, considering the Skrull are space villains), and the fallout from THAT finally finishes with The ''The Thanos Imperative. Imperative''. In the AlternateUniverse ComicBook/UltimateMarvel there was Ultimatum.''Ultimatum''.
* TheDarkAgeofComicBooks: Quesada started out at Valiant in the early Nineties. Before he became a major player for Marvel, he helped update Golden Age hero The Ray and co-created Azrael (who would become Batman during Knightfall) at DC.



* ExecutiveMeddling: Writers of the X-Men had difficulty bringing fan favorites BackFromTheDead due to the "whoever is dead stays dead" policy, though that mandate probably kept them from killing characters willy nilly as well. Though JMS was part of the planning process, he fought with him over the execution of Spiderman: One More Day to the point that JMS wanted his name removed.

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* ExecutiveMeddling: Writers of the X-Men had difficulty bringing fan favorites BackFromTheDead due to the "whoever is dead stays dead" policy, though that mandate probably kept them from killing characters willy nilly as well. Though JMS was part of the planning process, he fought with him over the execution of Spiderman: ''Spider-Man: One More Day Day'' to the point that JMS wanted his name removed.



* ShrugOfGod: Quesada infamously responded to questions and objections about how OMD's magical retcon works or how it would affect past and future continuity with "It's magic! We don't have to explain it!"

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* ShrugOfGod: Quesada infamously responded to questions and objections about how OMD's ''OMD''[='=]s magical retcon works or how it would affect past and future continuity with "It's magic! We don't have to explain it!"



* TheCameo: Has appeared in some of the Franchise/ViewAskewniverse films. The StarterVillain in the Daredevil movie is named after him.
* TheDarkAgeofComicBooks: Quesada started out at Valiant in the early Nineties. Before he became a major player for Marvel, he helped update Golden Age hero The Ray and co-created Azrael (who would become Batman during Knightfall) at DC.
24th Sep '15 4:15:32 PM jenkind1
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* [[ExecutiveMeddling Changing]] the Sins Past story arc of ComicBook/JMSSpiderMan to replace Peter Parker with Norman Osborn as the father of Gwen Stacy's children, as that would make Spider-Man appear too old.

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* [[ExecutiveMeddling Changing]] the Sins Past story arc of ComicBook/JMSSpiderMan to replace Peter Parker with Norman Osborn as the father of Gwen Stacy's children, as that would make Spider-Man [[NotAllowedToGrowUp appear too old.old]].
19th Sep '15 5:21:52 PM MagBas
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* NeverLiveItDown: Quesada was in general considered a massive improvement over his predecessor Bob Harras, who had infamously exacerbated Marvel's legendary mismanagement in the '90s. Then he mandated One More Day to be done, which unfortunately may have overshadowed his artistic, editorial, and economic accomplishments.
19th Sep '15 5:20:20 PM MagBas
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* FandomBerserkButton: Sins Past, One More Day, and One Moment In Time are very controversial Spider-Man story arcs that were not very well-received by the Spidey fandom, to the point of spawning a vocal Hatedom for Joe and to some extent JMS.
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