History Creator / JimShooter

25th Dec '15 5:59:23 PM nombretomado
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Shooter began his career at the age of 13 (!) after a script for ''Comicbook/{{Legion Of Super-Heroes}}'' he sent to Creator/DCComics was accepted. His run helped to modernize the series, bringing it out of its SilverAge status, most notably by causing the death of Ferro Lad, the first Legionnaire to be KilledOffForReal.

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Shooter began his career at the age of 13 (!) after a script for ''Comicbook/{{Legion Of Super-Heroes}}'' he sent to Creator/DCComics was accepted. His run helped to modernize the series, bringing it out of its SilverAge [[UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]] status, most notably by causing the death of Ferro Lad, the first Legionnaire to be KilledOffForReal.
31st May '15 3:03:53 AM moloch
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* Pushing for stronger characterization and consistent continuity.

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* Pushing for stronger characterization and consistent continuity.
continuity. His time as Marvel EIC is actually ''stunning'' in how consistent the continuity was kept across such a wide selection of books.
31st May '15 3:01:26 AM moloch
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* Starting the whole CrisisCrossover fad with the ComicBook/SecretWars series (in which The Beyonder, an [[TheOmnipotent omnipotent]] being, tried ToBecomeHuman) which he wrote himself. This was done in part to compete with DC's announced earlier but still gestating ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths.

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* Starting the whole CrisisCrossover fad with the two ComicBook/SecretWars series (in which The Beyonder, an [[TheOmnipotent omnipotent]] being, first [[LetsYouAndHimFight makes everybody fight]], then tried ToBecomeHuman) which he wrote himself. This The first was a roaring success. Secret Wars II... wasn't. The first was done in part to compete with DC's announced earlier earlier, but still gestating ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths.gestating, ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths, and is considered the very first "event" CrisisCrossover.



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15th May '15 8:55:55 PM KingClark
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* [[ExecutiveMeddling Ordering]] the death of Jean Grey at the end of ComicBook/TheDarkPhoenixSaga on ComicBook/XMen since he felt the character's murder of billions of alien beings (even though done while insane) needed to be properly punished (while Creator/ChrisClaremont wrote the story, that was not the ending he had intended for it.) Although highly controversial at the time, this was later generally accepted as an appropriate ending and a classic storyline.
* Starting the whole CrisisCrossover fad with the ComicBook/SecretWars series (in which The Beyonder, an [[TheOmnipotent omnipotent]] being, tried ToBecomeHuman) which he wrote himself; (in part to compete with DC's announced earlier but still gestating ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths)

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* [[ExecutiveMeddling Ordering]] the death of Jean Grey at the end of ComicBook/TheDarkPhoenixSaga on ComicBook/XMen since he felt the character's murder of billions of alien beings (even though done while insane) needed to be properly punished (while Creator/ChrisClaremont wrote the story, that was not the ending he had intended for it.) it). Although highly controversial at the time, this was later generally accepted as an appropriate ending and a classic storyline.
* Starting the whole CrisisCrossover fad with the ComicBook/SecretWars series (in which The Beyonder, an [[TheOmnipotent omnipotent]] being, tried ToBecomeHuman) which he wrote himself; (in himself. This was done in part to compete with DC's announced earlier but still gestating ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths)ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths.
14th Apr '15 5:48:10 PM nombretomado
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5th Dec '14 7:42:05 PM Mullon
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He eventually went to work for Creator/MarvelComics, writing among other things ''ComicBook/TheAvengers''. One of his most notable stories there was "ComicBook/TheKorvacSaga" in which a supervillain gains cosmic powers but decides to use them for the good of the universe; however, an attack by The Avengers (who were not aware of his motives) ruined his plans, leading him to commit suicide, a unusual DownerEnding for such stories at the time. (And the famous rewrite of ''Avengers #200'', which intended to tie off Ms. Marvel's arc but instead generated decades of stories dealing with the fallout.)

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He eventually went to work for Creator/MarvelComics, writing among other things ''ComicBook/TheAvengers''. One of his most notable stories there was "ComicBook/TheKorvacSaga" in which a supervillain gains cosmic powers but decides to use them for the good of the universe; however, an attack by The Avengers (who were not aware of his motives) ruined his plans, leading him to commit suicide, a unusual DownerEnding for such stories at the time. (And the famous rewrite of ''Avengers #200'', which intended to tie off Ms. Marvel's arc but instead generated decades of stories dealing with the fallout.)
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* Signing off on the story for Avengers #200, where ComicBook/MsMarvel is impregnated by Immortus' laser beam, gives birth to a clone of that supervillain who rapidly ages to an adult named Marcus, falls in love with Marcus who admits to using more science to make her fall in love with him, [[PutOnABus and disappears into another dimension with Marcus]], with none of the other Avengers saying "This is pretty fucked up, we should put a stop to this."
26th Apr '14 2:35:15 AM StFan
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26th Apr '14 2:34:52 AM StFan
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26th Apr '14 2:34:38 AM StFan
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Jim Shooter (1951-) is a notorious American comic book personality, known both for his work as a writer and editor, and for the controversies surrounding him.

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'''Jim Shooter'''
(1951-) is a notorious American comic book personality, known both for his work as a writer and editor, and for the controversies surrounding him.
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[[caption-width:163:NOT [[Series/{{Heroes}} Sylar]] or [[Film/{{Psycho}} Norman Bates]]. (But nearly as scary.)]]

Jim Shooter (1951-) is a notorious American comic book personality, known both for his work as a writer and editor, and for the controversies surrounding him.

Shooter began his career at the age of 13 (!) after a script for ''Comicbook/{{Legion Of Super-Heroes}}'' he sent to Creator/DCComics was accepted. His run helped to modernize the series, bringing it out of its SilverAge status, most notably by causing the death of Ferro Lad, the first Legionnaire to be KilledOffForReal.

He eventually went to work for Creator/MarvelComics, writing among other things ''ComicBook/TheAvengers''. One of his most notable stories there was "ComicBook/TheKorvacSaga" in which a supervillain gains cosmic powers but decides to use them for the good of the universe; however, an attack by The Avengers (who were not aware of his motives) ruined his plans, leading him to commit suicide, a unusual DownerEnding for such stories at the time. (And the famous rewrite of ''Avengers #200'', which intended to tie off Ms. Marvel's arc but instead generated decades of stories dealing with the fallout.)

Shooter eventually rose to the position of Editor-In-Chief at Marvel. Some of his notable works in that position include:
* [[ExecutiveMeddling Ordering]] the death of Jean Grey at the end of ComicBook/TheDarkPhoenixSaga on ComicBook/XMen since he felt the character's murder of billions of alien beings (even though done while insane) needed to be properly punished (while Creator/ChrisClaremont wrote the story, that was not the ending he had intended for it.) Although highly controversial at the time, this was later generally accepted as an appropriate ending and a classic storyline.
* Starting the whole CrisisCrossover fad with the ComicBook/SecretWars series (in which The Beyonder, an [[TheOmnipotent omnipotent]] being, tried ToBecomeHuman) which he wrote himself; (in part to compete with DC's announced earlier but still gestating ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths)
* Starting ComicBook/TheNewUniverse line of comics, in celebration of Marvel's 20th Anniversary. Shooter wrote the main series, ''Star Brand''. The line was not successful, however.
* Pushing for stronger characterisation and consistent continuity.

Despite his writing talent, Shooter came to gain the enmity of some writers, artists and editors at Marvel, reportedly because of his authoritarian way of running things. It's notable how several of his stories were later deconstructed after he left the company: The Beyonder was revealed to not really have been an omnipotent being after all; Korvac was now EvilAllAlong; and the New Universe was reinvented in a DarkerAndEdgier form, with the hero of Star Brand being to blame for it, and Shooter's hometown of Pittsburgh being destroyed. And Ms. Marvel's "happy ending" with Marcus...wasn't. All of these seem to be a series of {{Take That}}s aimed at Shooter, done regardless of their effects on the characters (or their fans). An overt one on the DC side (written and drawn by folks who defected from Marvel because of him) involves an {{Expy}} of Shooter (and Star Brand) getting his ass kicked six ways to Sunday by Guy Gardner, with the Expy almost-literally shooting himself in the foot, viewable [[http://daveslongbox.blogspot.com/2006/10/guy-gardner-vs-jim-shooter.html here]].

Shooter went on to head his own comics company, Creator/ValiantComics, by modernizing several old existing characters and continuing his emphasis on characterisation and continuity, during the 1990s; it was successful for a time, but eventually closed down. Shooter tried a few more times, but without success.

Recently, Shooter was hired to write Legion Of Super-Heroes again- however, he was dismissed soon after, because (according to him) DC Comics did not like the direction he was taking the story.

Most recently, Creator/DarkHorseComics has hired Shooter to manage [[Creator/ValiantComics some old and abandoned properties they recently acquired]]...

In 2011 he started [[http://www.jimshooter.com/ his own blog]]. For the best part of two years he updated almost daily with entries about his experiences in Creator/DCComics, Creator/MarvelComics and other companies, anecdotes and homages to legendary comic-book writers and artists, comic-book reviews... but updates have become very sparse since.

!!TV Tropes articles where Shooter is mentioned include:

* ArmedWithCanon
* AuthorsSavingThrow
* ComicBookTime
* DarkAge
* ExecutiveMeddling
* ExecutiveVeto
* ExpansionPackWorld
* FlashForward
* FutureSlang
* GayPanic
* HordeOfAlienLocusts
* ComicBook/JLAAvengers
* Creator/JoeQuesada
* OrganicTechnology
* PardonMyKlingon
* RevisedEnding
* RunningTheAsylum
* Take That - TakeThat/ComicBooks
* Comicbook/{{Legion of Super-Heroes}}
* ComicBook/TheNewUniverse
* Creator/ValiantComics
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