History Creator / GilbertAndSullivan

15th Jan '16 9:47:39 AM Anddrix
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** ''Patience'': Pretty much a MAJOR expansion of ''[[http://diamond.boisestate.edu/gas/bab_ballads/html/rival_curates.html The Rival Curates]]'', though [[PragmaticAdaptation Gilbert knew that, as much as he might want to poke fun of clerics on the stage]], he'd cause [[MoralGuardians every cleric out there -- who were already, many of them, railing against the wicked stage from the pulpit]] -- to think [[ViewersAreMorons they'd been proven right]].
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** ''Patience'': Pretty much a MAJOR expansion of ''[[http://diamond.boisestate.edu/gas/bab_ballads/html/rival_curates.html The Rival Curates]]'', though [[PragmaticAdaptation Gilbert knew that, as much as he might want to poke fun of clerics on the stage]], he'd cause [[MoralGuardians every cleric out there -- who were already, many of them, railing against the wicked stage from the pulpit]] -- to think [[ViewersAreMorons they'd been proven right]].right.
9th Jan '16 11:54:43 PM Gideoncrawle
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* ''Thespis, or, the Gods Grown Old'' (1871; score lost, except for one chorus ("Climbing over Rocky Mountains," re-used in ''Theatre/ThePiratesOfPenzance''), one solo ("Little Maid of Arcadee"), and some ballet music)
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* ''Thespis, ''Theatre/{{Thespis}}, or, the Gods Grown Old'' (1871; score lost, except for one chorus ("Climbing over Rocky Mountains," re-used in ''Theatre/ThePiratesOfPenzance''), one solo ("Little Maid of Arcadee"), and some ballet music)

* ''Theatre/HMSPinafore'', or, ''The Lass that Loved a Sailor'' (1878)
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* ''Theatre/HMSPinafore'', ''Theatre/HMSPinafore, or, ''The The Lass that Loved a Sailor'' (1878)

* ''The Gondoliers, or, the King of Barataria'' (1889) * ''Utopia, Limited, or, the Flowers of Progress'' (1893)
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* ''The Gondoliers, ''Theatre/TheGondoliers, or, the King of Barataria'' (1889) * ''Utopia, Limited, ''Theatre/UtopiaLimited, or, the Flowers of Progress'' (1893)
23rd Nov '15 12:32:11 PM Morgenthaler
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* OpeningChorus: With the single exception of TheYeomenOfTheGuard, this is a staple of every G & S collaboration.
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* OpeningChorus: With the single exception of TheYeomenOfTheGuard, Theatre/TheYeomenOfTheGuard, this is a staple of every G & S collaboration.

*** ''ThePiratesOfPenzance'' '''Yes''': When the Pirates are revealed to be noblemen, Major General Stanley immediately encourages the whole chorus to pair off. The whole thing is a parody of opera tropes, though.
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*** ''ThePiratesOfPenzance'' ''Theatre/ThePiratesOfPenzance'' '''Yes''': When the Pirates are revealed to be noblemen, Major General Stanley immediately encourages the whole chorus to pair off. The whole thing is a parody of opera tropes, though.

** ''TheMikado'': '''No''': In most of the G&S operas, the chorus has a distinct personality and plays a major role in the plot. Not here. As such, it only pairs up in the hands of a fairly strange director. Half the main cast is unpaired in the end too. (Koko and Katisha pairing off is important to the plot, so doesn't really apply)
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** ''TheMikado'': ''Theatre/TheMikado'': '''No''': In most of the G&S operas, the chorus has a distinct personality and plays a major role in the plot. Not here. As such, it only pairs up in the hands of a fairly strange director. Half the main cast is unpaired in the end too. (Koko and Katisha pairing off is important to the plot, so doesn't really apply)

** ''TheYeomenOfTheGuard'': '''No'''. There's some pairing off near the end, but most of it's portrayed as a huge mistake. The resolution of the LoveTriangle results in tragedy for the unpaired one. ** ''TheGondoliers'': '''Not at the end''' -- but the female and male choruses ''do'' decide to PairTheSpares ''in the opening chorus''.
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** ''TheYeomenOfTheGuard'': ''Theatre/TheYeomenOfTheGuard'': '''No'''. There's some pairing off near the end, but most of it's portrayed as a huge mistake. The resolution of the LoveTriangle results in tragedy for the unpaired one. ** ''TheGondoliers'': ''Theatre/TheGondoliers'': '''Not at the end''' -- but the female and male choruses ''do'' decide to PairTheSpares ''in the opening chorus''.
17th Nov '15 6:37:36 AM livemike
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'''Sir William Schwenck Gilbert''' (18 November 183629 May 1911) and '''Sir Arthur Seymour Sullivan''' (13 May 1842-22 November 1900) were a [[VictorianLondon Victorian]] duo who together wrote a number of hugely popular and influential comic operas, which served as forerunners of TheMusical (most people today think of them as musicals), Gilbert writing the book and lyrics (what's known as a librettist, because he writes the ''libretto''), and Sullivan the scores. Their most famous works are the so-called Savoy operas (from the Savoy Theatre where their operas were produced by entrepreneur Richard D'Oyly Carte), stretching from ''Trial By Jury'' in 1871 to ''The Gondoliers'' in 1889. The partnership then broke up, partly because of the legendary irascibility of Gilbert, partly because Sullivan ([[ExecutiveMeddling encouraged]] by none other than UsefulNotes/QueenVictoria'''!'''), wished to devote himself to serious music, mostly over a carpet. Two later works, ''Utopia, Ltd.'' and ''The Grand Duke'', came after the reunion of the team; they have not generally been considered successes.
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'''Sir William Schwenck Gilbert''' (18 November 183629 1836–29 May 1911) and '''Sir Arthur Seymour Sullivan''' (13 May 1842-22 November 1900) were a [[VictorianLondon Victorian]] duo who together wrote a number of hugely popular and influential comic operas, which served as forerunners of TheMusical (most people today think of them as musicals), Gilbert writing the book and lyrics (what's known as a librettist, because he writes the ''libretto''), and Sullivan the scores. Their most famous works are the so-called Savoy operas (from the Savoy Theatre where their operas were produced by entrepreneur Richard D'Oyly Carte), stretching from ''Trial By Jury'' in 1871 to ''The Gondoliers'' in 1889. The partnership then broke up, partly because of the legendary irascibility of Gilbert, partly because Sullivan ([[ExecutiveMeddling encouraged]] by none other than UsefulNotes/QueenVictoria'''!'''), wished to devote himself to serious music, mostly over a carpet. Two later works, ''Utopia, Ltd.'' and ''The Grand Duke'', came after the reunion of the team; they have not generally been considered successes.

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'''Sir William Schwenck Gilbert''' (18 November 183629 May 1911) ** At least once this was combined with ProductPlacement during an Australian performance of "The Gondaliers". The Duke and '''Sir Arthur Seymour Sullivan''' (13 May 1842-22 November 1900) were a [[VictorianLondon Victorian]] duo who together wrote a number Duchess of hugely popular Plaza Toro are sing about the numerous advertising deals they've made and influential comic operas, which served as forerunners of TheMusical (most people today think of them as musicals), Gilbert writing mention the book and lyrics (what's known as a librettist, because he writes bank that sponsored the ''libretto''), and Sullivan the scores. Their most famous works are the so-called Savoy operas (from the Savoy Theatre where their operas were produced by entrepreneur Richard D'Oyly Carte), stretching from ''Trial By Jury'' in 1871 to ''The Gondoliers'' in 1889. The partnership then broke up, partly because of the legendary irascibility of Gilbert, partly because Sullivan ([[ExecutiveMeddling encouraged]] by none other than UsefulNotes/QueenVictoria'''!'''), wished to devote himself to serious music, mostly over a carpet. Two later works, ''Utopia, Ltd.'' and ''The Grand Duke'', came after the reunion of the team; they have not generally been considered successes. production.
6th Nov '15 1:15:21 PM Morgenthaler
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* ThePiratesWhoDontDoAnything: ThePiratesOfPenzance, obviously, but Major General Stanley in the same opera counts as well -- and in ''TheMikado'' Ko-Ko never does his job as executioner, nor do we ever see Pooh Bah performing any of his various capacities. Similarly the Royal Navy in ''HMS Pinafore'' is never engaged in battle. Gilbert actually {{lampshades}} this Trope in ''{{Iolanthe}}'', when he has Lord Mountararat proclaim:
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* ThePiratesWhoDontDoAnything: ThePiratesOfPenzance, obviously, but Major General Stanley in the same opera counts as well -- and in ''TheMikado'' Ko-Ko never does his job as executioner, nor do we ever see Pooh Bah performing any of his various capacities. Similarly the Royal Navy in ''HMS Pinafore'' is never engaged in battle. Gilbert actually {{lampshades}} this Trope in ''{{Iolanthe}}'', ''Theatre/{{Iolanthe}}'', when he has Lord Mountararat proclaim:
1st Nov '15 10:36:48 AM nombretomado
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'''Sir William Schwenck Gilbert''' (18 November 183629 May 1911) and '''Sir Arthur Seymour Sullivan''' (13 May 1842-22 November 1900) were a [[VictorianLondon Victorian]] duo who together wrote a number of hugely popular and influential comic operas, which served as forerunners of TheMusical (most people today think of them as musicals), Gilbert writing the book and lyrics (what's known as a librettist, because he writes the ''libretto''), and Sullivan the scores. Their most famous works are the so-called Savoy operas (from the Savoy Theatre where their operas were produced by entrepreneur Richard D'Oyly Carte), stretching from ''Trial By Jury'' in 1871 to ''The Gondoliers'' in 1889. The partnership then broke up, partly because of the legendary irascibility of Gilbert, partly because Sullivan ([[ExecutiveMeddling encouraged]] by none other than [[QueenVicky Queen Victoria]]'''!'''), wished to devote himself to serious music, mostly over a carpet. Two later works, ''Utopia, Ltd.'' and ''The Grand Duke'', came after the reunion of the team; they have not generally been considered successes.
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'''Sir William Schwenck Gilbert''' (18 November 183629 May 1911) and '''Sir Arthur Seymour Sullivan''' (13 May 1842-22 November 1900) were a [[VictorianLondon Victorian]] duo who together wrote a number of hugely popular and influential comic operas, which served as forerunners of TheMusical (most people today think of them as musicals), Gilbert writing the book and lyrics (what's known as a librettist, because he writes the ''libretto''), and Sullivan the scores. Their most famous works are the so-called Savoy operas (from the Savoy Theatre where their operas were produced by entrepreneur Richard D'Oyly Carte), stretching from ''Trial By Jury'' in 1871 to ''The Gondoliers'' in 1889. The partnership then broke up, partly because of the legendary irascibility of Gilbert, partly because Sullivan ([[ExecutiveMeddling encouraged]] by none other than [[QueenVicky Queen Victoria]]'''!'''), UsefulNotes/QueenVictoria'''!'''), wished to devote himself to serious music, mostly over a carpet. Two later works, ''Utopia, Ltd.'' and ''The Grand Duke'', came after the reunion of the team; they have not generally been considered successes.
3rd Oct '15 11:29:56 PM Morgenthaler
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Why Do You Keep Changing Jobs has been renamed because of misuse. Misuse and Zero Context Examples will be cut.
* WhyDoYouKeepChangingJobs: In ''TheMikado,'' Pooh-Bah takes this to hilarious extremes: Ko-Ko is Lord High Executioner, and Pooh-Bah is Lord High Everything Else.
29th Sep '15 12:39:38 PM Anddrix
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* EvolvingMusic: It's somewhat traditional for certain songs to be updated to poke fun of current topical references. Ko-Ko's "[[ListSong I've Got a Little List]]" from ''TheMikado'' and "The MajorGeneralSong" from ''ThePiratesOfPenzance'' are particularly vulnerable. Gilbert himself sanctioned some of this when he realized that "the lady novelist" on Ko-Ko's list wouldn't always be seen as "[[MostWritersAreMale a singular anomaly]]" and let singers suggest their own alternatives. The most popular replacement? "[[NatureAbhorsAVirgin The girl who's not been kissed]]" and "[[RoaringTwenties the Prohibitionist]], although more recently, lady novelists have come back into range, either "[[{{Franchise/Twilight}} the vampire novelist]]" or "[[FiftyShadesOfGrey the fetish novelist]]", under the belief that Sir William would find the abilities of both rather lacking.
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* EvolvingMusic: It's somewhat traditional for certain songs to be updated to poke fun of current topical references. Ko-Ko's "[[ListSong I've Got a Little List]]" from ''TheMikado'' and "The MajorGeneralSong" from ''ThePiratesOfPenzance'' are particularly vulnerable. Gilbert himself sanctioned some of this when he realized that "the lady novelist" on Ko-Ko's list wouldn't always be seen as "[[MostWritersAreMale a singular anomaly]]" and let singers suggest their own alternatives. The most popular replacement? "[[NatureAbhorsAVirgin The girl who's not been kissed]]" and "[[RoaringTwenties the Prohibitionist]], although more recently, lady novelists have come back into range, either "[[{{Franchise/Twilight}} the vampire novelist]]" or "[[FiftyShadesOfGrey "[[Literature/FiftyShadesOfGrey the fetish novelist]]", under the belief that Sir William would find the abilities of both rather lacking.
18th Aug '15 10:37:22 AM LordGro
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Names To Run Away From Really Fast is for characters whose proper name hints at their power or morality. It is not for things that are intentionally named to sound intimidating.
* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: The Royal Navy has a tradition of giving impressive names to His Majesty's Ship. ''Terror'', ''Invincible'', ''Dauntless''... ''[[SubvertedTrope Pinafore]]''.

* ObliviousToLove: Dr. Daly to Constance in ''The Sorcerer''; Sir Joseph to Hebe in ''Pinafore''; Robin and Rose to each other in ''Ruddigore''; Fairfax to Phoebe in ''[[TheYeomenOfTheGuard Yeomen]]'' (unless [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation the director decides]] that he notices but [[JerkAss doesn't care]]).
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* ObliviousToLove: Dr. Daly to Constance in ''The Sorcerer''; Sir Joseph to Hebe in ''Pinafore''; Robin and Rose to each other in ''Ruddigore''; Fairfax to Phoebe in ''[[TheYeomenOfTheGuard ''[[Theatre/TheYeomenOfTheGuard Yeomen]]'' (unless [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation the director decides]] that he notices but [[JerkAss doesn't care]]).
18th Aug '15 2:10:39 AM Kalmbach
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* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: The Royal Navy has a tradition of giving impressive names to His Majesty's Ship. ''Terror'', ''Invincible'', ''Dauntless''... ''[[SubvertedTrope Pinafore]]''.
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